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Hopefully the band or their assosciates or Alan Boyd or whoever is compiling the tracklisting for their forthcoming career-spanning release will read and take note of this thread!

Ok, songs that have inexplicably cropped up on Best Of's, compilations, etc that you really wish weren't there and that you really don't want included on any upcoming release.

I'll go with:

Student Demonstration Time
Here Comes The Night (79)

Fans and critics alike almost universally dislike these two songs, don't include them please, thank you!

EH. I'm not buying anything unless it's a remastered version of a full album so there aren't songs I don't want them to not include.

Unreleased stuff is cool toooo.

Susie Cincinnati
Loop De Loop
Entire 1978 christmas album
Hey Little Tomboy (either version)
anything from MIU -except 'My Diane'
Anything to do with TM

I would love to hear a clean, speed and pitch corrected version of Go And Get That Girl. Also, I have no problem with including that TM influenced song, All This Is That. Though I doubt it would be imcluded, I wouldn't mind the 45 mix of Here Comes The Night. I'm not a disco person, but man, I love the vocals. They sing their asses off on that one.

What? No Loop De Loop? But I might need a drink break!  ;D

Barbara Ann.

"Surfer Girl" from the TAMI Show. They've used that to DEATH.

They = Curt Becher.

Well, with the TM songs not wanted, I propose a TM Medley:


My TM medley that I'd accept is the 2nd half of the TM Song ("What time is it, how long has it been?....) into the He Come Down into Transcendental Meditation.....That away, we get a good vocal from Al on a quirky 15 Big Ones tune that ISN'T an oldie....then a stellar vocal by Mike that he can still pull off, as Alan could too, plus we could get a perfect low vocal from Brian on HCD (perhaps the gospel vibe will hit Brian to write another gospel like song.) and then Al or Brian, whom ever sang Transcendental Meditation can take the lead and let the band jam out...I know I'd enjoy it.


And btw, if Cool Head and Warm Heart & All I wanna Do are considered TM, they NEED to be performed. I'd love love love to hear the guys do CHWH

Almost is the key word there. Not me, for sure.

Know what?

Eventually we'll rule out everything but the following:


"California Girls" (Brian Wilson/Mike Love [1965]) – 2:44

"I Get Around" (Brian Wilson/Mike Love [1964]) – 2:13

"Surfin' Safari" (Brian Wilson/Mike Love [1962]) – 2:05

"Surfin' USA" (Brian Wilson/Chuck Berry [1963]) – 2:27

"Fun, Fun, Fun" (Brian Wilson/Mike Love [1964]) – 2:18

"Surfer Girl" (Brian Wilson [1963]) – 2:27

"Don't Worry Baby" (Brian Wilson/Roger Christian [1964]) – 2:47

"Little Deuce Coupe" (Brian Wilson/Roger Christian [1963]) – 1:38

"Shut Down" (Brian Wilson/Roger Christian/Mike Love [1963]) – 1:48

"Help Me, Rhonda" (Brian Wilson/Mike Love [1965]) – 2:46

"Be True to Your School" (Brian Wilson/Mike Love [1963]) – 2:08

"When I Grow Up (To Be a Man)" (Brian Wilson/Mike Love [1964]) – 2:02

"In My Room" (Brian Wilson/Gary Usher [1963]) – 2:12

"God Only Knows" (Brian Wilson/Tony Asher [1966]) – 2:51

"Sloop John B" (Trad. Arr. Brian Wilson [1966]) – 2:57

"Wouldn't It Be Nice" (Brian Wilson/Tony Asher/Mike Love [1966]) – 2:31

"Getcha Back" (Mike Love/Terry Melcher [1985]) – 3:00

"Come Go with Me" (C.E. Quick [1978]) – 2:05

"Rock and Roll Music" (Chuck Berry [1976]) – 2:27

"Dance, Dance, Dance" (Brian Wilson/Carl Wilson/Mike Love [1964]) – 2:00

"Do You Wanna Dance?" (Bobby Freeman [1965]) – 2:18

"Heroes and Villains" (Brian Wilson/Van Dyke Parks [1967]) – 3:38

"Good Timin'" (Brian Wilson/Carl Wilson [1979]) – 2:12

"Do It Again" (Brian Wilson/Mike Love [1968]) – 2:18

"Wild Honey" (Brian Wilson/Mike Love [1967]) – 2:37

"Darlin'" (Brian Wilson/Mike Love [1967]) – 2:12

"I Can Hear Music" (Jeff Barry/Ellie Greenwich/Phil Spector [1969]) – 2:36

"Good Vibrations" (Brian Wilson/Mike Love [1966]) – 3:36


I think we should lay off and let the guys do their thang!

I don't get you? Curt sings the lead and all background vocals? If so, he has Carl, Al & Bruce down pat.

I don't want to see any songs on forthcoming career perspective albums that the Beach Boys didn't sing.  Or record.  Or write.  As long as they keep it to that, I'll enjoy it. 

Hence the almost.

Even All This Is That?

I enjoy quite a few songs that they sang beautifully, but did not write, especially I'm So Young on Today. It's better than the original, imho.

No I don't mind those.  I'm just saying if they had anythign to do with it, I don't mind it being on there :) 

I miss understood.

I don't think any of the comedy bits/album fillers should be on there  ;)


But then again, what constitutes as an album filler?
Mine just includes those of the spoken variety from Shut Down Vol. 2, ASL, and Today!

album fillers that are songs, that's another story.

As long as we get California Feeling and WIBNTLA I don't care if it's sequences with the complete Kokomo sessions!

:lol I'm with you, there.

I would actually really love to hear who was calling the shots in the studio during the Kokomo tracking session.

The shocker would be that VDP was calling the shots.

"Syncopate it a little, Mike"

I've often thought about the "higher up" people including something like that....I wouldn't mind.
As much as I cringe when the song is played....i have a soft part in my part from my childhood when I hear it...sometimes it makes me tear up because of the memory of what was once my childhood.

"Kokomo" is actually a very well-written song. Its caribbean trappings turn people off.

I'd rephrase that to "turn some people off". Apparently it turned on enough people to make it a number one record.

not that, ATIT is a great song. I was thinking TM!

 There's absolutely no reason to include "Funky Pretty" on another boxed set. Once was enough.

 Here are a few that didn't make the cut on the 1993 GV box that deserve a spin this time:
 1) Lonely Sea
 2) Feel Flows
 3) Steamboat
 4) Girl Don't Tell Me
 5) Let the Wind Blow (live)

Funky Pretty would be very welcomed by me on a new box set.  Especially a live version from the early 70's.

P.S.  Obama in 2012

 Hi Mikie.

 You know I could never get right with Funky Pretty! Flat ending to a great album IMO.

 P.S.  Agreed re 2012. We may as well keep this train going another four years....

"Funky Pretty" should be on every box set, even those that have nothing to do with the Beach Boys.

At first, I couldn't think of a song that I would definitely NOT want on a box set. But here it is:

"Disney Girls" with its stupid sentiment.

Or "Tears in the Morning" or any other Bruce Johnston schlock.

I honestly don't understand why "Disney Girls" is even part of their setlist on this tour, or even on the Mike and Bruce tours. It was nothing close to a hit, and if they are gonna do something from the Surf's Up album there are at least four better choices.

Bruce needs a song to sing. also, apparently it got a lot of college radio airplay in the 70s, and girls liked it.

Hi Centrist Steve! Surprised to see you here after all these years! What happened, did you get tired of nobody responding to your posts on the waning Shut Down bored?

Just wanted to solicit a response from you. I still like Funky Pretty, especially live. Kinduva repetitive Holandesque astrology ending, but always liked the melody and Carl's voice on that. "She said don't worry it's alright. I'm coming back when the aspects are right. And now I look in the paper each day......wonderin' what my horoscope will say. Funkay. Still remember Funkay Pretay!"

Because it's the best song Bruce ever wrote for the band, and the best song out of his lead vocals for the band, it's off a well-respected album, it's on several compilations and has been covered by many famous people (albeit pretty much all 70s soft-rock people). The show's meant to be about celebrating the surviving Beach Boys, and Bruce deserves a solo spot, and really the only feasible choices are that or I Write The Songs, and no-one wants that. I suppose they *could* do Deirdre or Tears In The Morning, but Deirdre is much less well-known than Disney Girls, and Tears In The Morning is a much worse song.

Plus, many people disagree with you. It's cheesy, but it's a fine, vintage cheese, like a mature Stilton. As for the songs from Surf's Up that are better, two of them are songs that relied on Carl's vocals and wouldn't really work without him. Of the other two, I'd be quite surprised if Til I Die didn't get brought in at some point, unless Brian or someone in his band really hates it, because Mike & Bruce have done it too.

Yeah, I'd be really disappointed if Disney Girls wasn't on any forthcoming career retrospective. One of my favorites from that era of the band.

No Wrinkles, no Battle Hymn, no Summer of Love and I will be happy.

"Wrinkles" kicks ass.

Funky Pretty is one of their greatest album closers, period.

 "Disney Girls" was never a hit as in "Top 40 single" but it is a pop standard that has been covered by many notables. Art Garfunkel's version is great. It goes on the new box!

 The live version from IN CONCERT is decent, I'll admit.

 SHUT DOWN Vol 2 was a great Beach Boys board but it seems to be in terminal decline. I would go months between posts, but whenever I returned there was very little going on. Textus and Topgazza are still around, but the community has dwindled.

 In retrospect, maybe the flux stuff did consume that board. Political talk has its place, but on Shut Down it ended up taking precedence over discussion of The Beach Boys themselves.

 I am beyond thrilled for the reunion and this board seems to be the best place for news and discussion as it unfolds.  Surf is up, again.

I can understand that, but I'd say "Surf's Up" and "'Til I Die" are more classic, and they aren't getting played on the new tour.

Dance Dance Dance... the absolute worst of their early hits.

Nothing from Smile...the absolute worst of the unreleased albums they recorded in 1966.

Ha! Ho! He!

"Now I could go in any old bar/And find a fight without looking too hard" - David Lowrey

What was the other unreleased album they recorded in 1966?  Teeter Totter Love?   Now that one's a stinkburger.
Stay in school kids, don't do drugs. 

When I Win The Lottery! Great song.

I know I'll probably catch all kinds of sh*t for this, but I've never liked either Goin On' or Getcha Back. Both are derivative in all the qualities I hate in my Beach Boys music, and make the BBs sound even older and stodgier than they were at the time with all that phony malt-shop nostalgia. That, and Mike sounds like he has an extra clothes pin on for both. Plus, that whole synthetic production on GB just doesn't do it for me. Yuck. Though, I reckon I'm going to lose on both accounts. They always seem to be the token representatives of their albums, and I suppose GB was a minor hit. Even though it might sound like Boys II Men to some, I guess I'd rather have Where I Belong on there (and maybe the title track from the album of the former).

For me, it's easier to pick the ones that were left off the first set that should be on. Too many for me to list. Thus, other than the ones already listed, I'll add Let Him Run Wild. I just hope that Brian's gotten over whatever convinced him that his voice wasn't good on it the first time around. That's one's essential for me.

I also noticed Susie Cincy on one of the nuke it lists. I have to say, as long as I've been a fan, I've never gotten the hatred for this song that it inspires in some (Denny's proclamation aside). One of the great mysteries of life for me. It's got the BBs at their Sunflower-era, chanting backing voices best, with Al doing his late 60s, Brian imitation (though not exactly). That great honking harmonica. Dennis Dragon's drums. That insane moment in the song where the bottom end all overloads, and that great buried falsetto right at the end. I guess maybe the lyrics are a little silly, but I actually like the story. I dance around when I hear it. Oh well, maybe, I'm just partial because of my home state name-dropping, and I always see the one-way streets of downtown Cincinnati in my head when I hear it! I've always liked Al's voice in that era, too.

Yep.  It sure did.  Unfortunately, the political discussion was allowed and it pulled that board down to what there is now, which is next to nothing.  So now we have Chuckie's board and there's free speech and no control freaks and no preferential treatment in the neighborhood!

I just want a four disc box set of the Mount Vernon and Fairway sessions. Then my life can end. At 34!

What's Denny's proclamation about Susie Cincy?

 Dennis called "Susie Cincinnati" a "silly piece of sh*t," circa 1976.  

 I think I'd prefer it on SUNFLOWER over "Fears on the Morning" or "(We'll Take a Bath w/ Bruce and) Deirdre." Sorry Bruce, but one tune was enough from you and Al is an original Beach Boy with a catchy car song.

I think Susie woulda fit on Sunflower somewhere as TITM would be left off or made just a b-side.  ;D

I've been thinking about this thread for a while because as much as I (and most of us) love the Boys, it's definitely easy to find some clunkers along the way, with 50 years to choose from.  Thankfully, I think most of their worst offenders wouldn't be considered for inclusion.  That said, many "career spanning retrospectives" for Pop artists try to cover most of the band's singles, which makes me glad that "East Meets West" and "Happy Endings" WEREN'T released through Capitol.  At the time, someone obviously thought every single release was a good idea but there's definitely no reason to don't bring any modern day attention to those two.

While also not on Capitol, I would like a remastered version of Chasin' The Sky. While the song is not written by any of them, the vocals are just spectacular.

"susie cincinnati" is pretty bad.  it's like a second rate Archies song.

I'd rather Susie were the b-side, San Miguel and/or Lady were on Sunflower, and Tears In The Morning was abandonded on some derilict former nuclear waste site and convieniently forgotten about...

  "Bluebirds Over the Mountain" was excluded from the 1993 Box as well as SOUNDS OF SUMMER and THE WARMTH OF THE SUN. It may be due for a revival.

Not all editions, if I recall correctly.

Yup, I think it's a solid 'b list' song, just good enough to peek into a few greatest hits/compilation type albums.  I'd be interested in hearing any alternate takes or mixes of it. 

Okay, this isn't a "song" per se, but...we definitely DO NOT need yet another inclusion of Carl's "Well, the music does have a spiritual quality..." quote...that's been overused..almost as overused as that "Surfer Girl" clip from the TAMI Show.