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Title: Oldest Song to Receive Live Debut In Performance where BW & ML are Both Present
Post by: harrisonjon on May 05, 2012, 05:03:08 PM
Is it possible to go through the setlist and indicate how many of these recordings Mike and Brian have never performed 'together' before, ranked by oldest recording?

It's perhaps more meaningful if one of them did the lead vocal (i.e. a track like Disney Girls should probably be asterisked because I'm not sure Brian does anything on that song live)


Title: Re: Oldest Song to Receive Live Debut In Performance where BW & ML are Both Present
Post by: bgas on May 05, 2012, 05:15:48 PM
Is it possible to go through the setlist and indicate how many of these recordings Mike and Brian have never performed 'together' before, ranked by oldest recording?

It's perhaps more meaningful if one of them did the lead vocal (i.e. a track like Disney Girls should probably be asterisked because I'm not sure Brian does anything on that song live)

  I may not be following the concerts close enough; are you saying that Mike does something on Disney Girls?


Title: Re: Oldest Song to Receive Live Debut In Performance where BW & ML are Both Present
Post by: hypehat on May 05, 2012, 06:00:54 PM
Well, The Beach Boys have never done I Just Wasn't Made For These Times before so that is a contender.


Did Little Honda ever get an outing in the pre-Bruce years? Only one that springs to mind.

Or, Why Do Fools Fall In Love....


Title: Re: Oldest Song to Receive Live Debut In Performance where BW & ML are Both Present
Post by: NHC on May 05, 2012, 07:47:02 PM
Seems like Little Honda was played around the time of its release on the ASL album but that is only from dim memory, nothing factual to back it up.


Title: Re: Oldest Song to Receive Live Debut In Performance where BW & ML are Both Present
Post by: I. Spaceman on May 05, 2012, 09:32:50 PM
Little Honda was played at the Sacramento 64 shows as the opener.


Title: Re: Oldest Song to Receive Live Debut In Performance where BW & ML are Both Present
Post by: harrisonjon on May 06, 2012, 05:21:43 AM
OK so I'll conclude that I Just Wasn't Made For These Times is the one.

I suppose a lot of pre-65 tunes would have been done live at the time simply because of the lack of material, and because they would have fitted the ethos of the time and place (cars & girls).


Title: Re: Oldest Song to Receive Live Debut In Performance where BW & ML are Both Present
Post by: Stegibo on May 06, 2012, 05:31:49 AM
Little Honda was played in the 90's too.


Title: Re: Oldest Song to Receive Live Debut In Performance where BW & ML are Both Present
Post by: I. Spaceman on May 06, 2012, 08:47:49 AM

I suppose a lot of pre-65 tunes would have been done live at the time simply because of the lack of material, and because they would have fitted the ethos of the time and place (cars & girls).

But mainly because they were amazing songs.


Title: Re: Oldest Song to Receive Live Debut In Performance where BW & ML are Both Present
Post by: SMiLE Brian on May 06, 2012, 09:01:51 AM

I suppose a lot of pre-65 tunes would have been done live at the time simply because of the lack of material, and because they would have fitted the ethos of the time and place (cars & girls).

But mainly because they were amazing songs.
The real live sacromento tapes show how awesome the BBs were in 1964.


Title: Re: Oldest Song to Receive Live Debut In Performance where BW & ML are Both Present
Post by: Micha on May 06, 2012, 09:36:19 AM

I suppose a lot of pre-65 tunes would have been done live at the time simply because of the lack of material, and because they would have fitted the ethos of the time and place (cars & girls).

But mainly because they were amazing songs.
The real live sacramento tapes show how awesome the BBs were in 1964.

The real live IGA rocks way better than the studio version. Not the released fake live version, the REAL one.


Title: Re: Oldest Song to Receive Live Debut In Performance where BW & ML are Both Present
Post by: harrisonjon on May 06, 2012, 01:59:01 PM
There's also the Ready Steady Go version:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCYouoLKxjo


Title: Re: Oldest Song to Receive Live Debut In Performance where BW & ML are Both Present
Post by: SMiLE Brian on May 06, 2012, 04:55:55 PM

I suppose a lot of pre-65 tunes would have been done live at the time simply because of the lack of material, and because they would have fitted the ethos of the time and place (cars & girls).

But mainly because they were amazing songs.
The real live sacramento tapes show how awesome the BBs were in 1964.
The real live version is proto-punk.

The real live IGA rocks way better than the studio version. Not the released fake live version, the REAL one.


Title: Re: Oldest Song to Receive Live Debut In Performance where BW & ML are Both Present
Post by: BJL on May 06, 2012, 05:45:09 PM
OK so I'll conclude that I Just Wasn't Made For These Times is the one.

I suppose a lot of pre-65 tunes would have been done live at the time simply because of the lack of material, and because they would have fitted the ethos of the time and place (cars & girls).

I doubt that Brian and Mike have ever done Little girl I Once Knew on stage together before this tour.  And I wonder about some of the earlier stuff too...I know that they were playing tracks like Catch a Wave, Why Do Fools Fall in Love, etc. in the 90s, but Brian went out so rarely then, and I'm not sure that they played all those early cuts in the 60s before Brian quit touring - I would be curious of one of those might qualify, but otherwise Little Girl would be my guess.

Of course, I don't have the kind of historical knowledge about Beach Boys setlists that some of those who lived through the 70s, 80s, and 90s, have, so I don't know for sure.


Title: Re: Oldest Song to Receive Live Debut In Performance where BW & ML are Both Present
Post by: Magic Transistor Radio on May 06, 2012, 07:22:11 PM
Had the Beach Boys ever done Don't Back Down with Brian and Mike present?


Title: Re: Oldest Song to Receive Live Debut In Performance where BW & ML are Both Present
Post by: tpesky on May 06, 2012, 08:03:30 PM
They performed Don't Back Down in '64 I believe. It might be Why Do Fools Fall in Love? I don't think they did this live in '64 when they recorded it. All Summer Long is another contender, don't believe that was done until the 80's and not sure if when Brian was making appearances or not. After that I would say Little Girl I Once Knew.


Title: Re: Oldest Song to Receive Live Debut In Performance where BW & ML are Both Present
Post by: NHC on May 06, 2012, 08:13:36 PM
Little Honda was played at the Sacramento 64 shows as the opener.

I thought so.  Thanks.


Title: Re: Oldest Song to Receive Live Debut In Performance where BW & ML are Both Present
Post by: I. Spaceman on May 06, 2012, 08:34:00 PM
Don't Back Down was also heard in Sacramento 64.  If one is looking for setlist details, Eric Aniversario's site is nice:

http://members.tripod.com/~fun_fun_fun/setlists.html


Title: Re: Oldest Song to Receive Live Debut In Performance where BW & ML are Both Present
Post by: Magic Transistor Radio on May 07, 2012, 07:10:05 PM
Ok thanks, I hadn't had time to research, mr Doe. :)


Title: Re: Oldest Song to Receive Live Debut In Performance where BW & ML are Both Present
Post by: MBE on May 09, 2012, 01:43:47 AM
Songs like Catch A Wave and All Summer Long Brian did live with the band in the 1976-83 period.


Title: Re: Oldest Song to Receive Live Debut In Performance where BW & ML are Both Present
Post by: Aegir on May 09, 2012, 02:41:15 AM
Is it possible to go through the setlist and indicate how many of these recordings Mike and Brian have never performed 'together' before, ranked by oldest recording?

It's perhaps more meaningful if one of them did the lead vocal (i.e. a track like Disney Girls should probably be asterisked because I'm not sure Brian does anything on that song live)

  I may not be following the concerts close enough; are you saying that Mike does something on Disney Girls?
Brian and Mike both sang on Disney Girls last night.