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Title: David Marks Reunion
Post by: H Robinson on May 05, 2012, 05:38:34 AM
I guess this for anyone who knows/ or have been to the reunion concerts (:

But my question is does David Marks sing lead on any songs during the reunion concert?

Thanks!


Title: Re: David Marks Reunion
Post by: Craig Boyd on May 05, 2012, 07:09:07 AM
I'm sure I read that he sang Do You Wanna Dance at the first show although I haven't seen a video of it and Brian seems to have taken that one over. I always liked Bruce's live vocal on that so i'd have him sing it. I'd like to see David take a stab at Sail On Sailor, Brian just doesn't seem to want to sing it for whatever reason.


Title: Re: David Marks Reunion
Post by: H Robinson on May 05, 2012, 07:11:49 AM
Ahk, Thanks a lot!


Title: Re: David Marks Reunion
Post by: Craig Boyd on May 05, 2012, 07:17:19 AM
Ahk, Thanks a lot!

Yeah he sang DYWD at the first show. Check page 12 and Andrew's comment on this thread http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,12772.275.html

p.s It's good that he has all the guitar leads on the tour, he's really getting a chance to shine at last!


Title: Re: David Marks Reunion
Post by: Micha on May 05, 2012, 12:01:41 PM
Ahk, Thanks a lot!

Yeah he sang DYWD at the first show. Check page 12 and Andrew's comment on this thread http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,12772.275.html

p.s It's good that he has all the guitar leads on the tour, he's really getting a chance to shine at last!

It says there he also sang lead on Wendy.


Title: Re: David Marks Reunion
Post by: astroray on May 05, 2012, 01:23:14 PM
Let David sing at least one song, in Atlanta he didn't say or sing a word! Some fine guitar playing though!


Title: Re: David Marks Reunion
Post by: Lowbacca on May 05, 2012, 01:26:05 PM
Let David sing at least one song, in Atlanta he didn't say or sing a word! Some fine guitar playing though!
I'm sure he sang on almost every song...  ;)


Title: Re: David Marks Reunion
Post by: Jon Stebbins on May 05, 2012, 01:36:05 PM
Yeah he's singing in the harmonies on most every song...you can hear him down in the Dennis range on most things.


Title: Re: David Marks Reunion
Post by: Pretty Funky on May 05, 2012, 03:04:41 PM
Sail on Sailor keeps getting suggested. Come on 'people who read this board'. Make it happen! :thumbsup


Title: Re: David Marks Reunion
Post by: Jon Stebbins on May 05, 2012, 03:45:04 PM
I think Dave really enjoys singing "Forever" as he did on the BBs's 2008 UK Tour http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsZ5NSatN8A

Since Dennis himself is singing that song on this tour its not a possibility for him. Things like Do You Wanna Dance and Sail On Sailor have been suggested, but he's happy to let one of the other guys handle those... I think Dave might have another song or two in mind. We'll see as the tour develops. Right now he's really stepping up in the guitar department and focusing on giving that his all.


Title: Re: David Marks Reunion
Post by: runnersdialzero on May 05, 2012, 09:07:05 PM
Why on earth was his lead on "Do You Wanna Dance?" given away, yet Jeff keeps his?


Title: Re: David Marks Reunion
Post by: Wirestone on May 05, 2012, 09:33:54 PM
Why on earth was his lead on "Do You Wanna Dance?" given away, yet Jeff keeps his?

Because no one else can sing DWB in that full, Wilson-esque falsetto, but many others can sing DYWD.


Title: Re: David Marks Reunion
Post by: runnersdialzero on May 05, 2012, 09:34:51 PM
Why on earth was his lead on "Do You Wanna Dance?" given away, yet Jeff keeps his?

Because no one else can sing DWB in that full, Wilson-esque falsetto, but many others can sing DYWD.

Damn you, Wirestone :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o


Title: Re: David Marks Reunion
Post by: Magic City Surfer on May 06, 2012, 05:59:00 AM
I think Dave might have another song or two in mind. We'll see as the tour develops. Right now he's really stepping up in the guitar department and focusing on giving that his all.

And he's doing an incredible job. I was very impressed in Atlanta. His guitar really added a much needed dimension to the show.


Title: Re: David Marks Reunion
Post by: STE on May 06, 2012, 06:46:15 AM

According to JesusUK they added Hawaii in Tampa and David was singing it.



Title: Re: David Marks Reunion
Post by: Pretty Funky on May 06, 2012, 02:46:25 PM
I noticed that in a early review last night but no song was mentioned.

Think about this. Off the top of my head I can not think of a touring act where all the group take at least one lead?

Of course this is why the Beach Boys were always so great in the first place for me.


Title: Re: David Marks Reunion
Post by: Ron on May 06, 2012, 03:36:15 PM
I'm sure I read that he sang Do You Wanna Dance at the first show although I haven't seen a video of it and Brian seems to have taken that one over. I always liked Bruce's live vocal on that so i'd have him sing it. I'd like to see David take a stab at Sail On Sailor, Brian just doesn't seem to want to sing it for whatever reason.

His reason apparently is he thinks the lyrics are god awful.  I wonder if he has a strong dislike for one of the writers or something?

Maybe he was 'saving it' and got pissed when they finished the song without him. 


Title: Re: David Marks Reunion
Post by: Wirestone on May 06, 2012, 04:24:24 PM
Why on earth was his lead on "Do You Wanna Dance?" given away, yet Jeff keeps his?

Because no one else can sing DWB in that full, Wilson-esque falsetto, but many others can sing DYWD.

Damn you, Wirestone :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

 ;D


Title: Re: David Marks Reunion
Post by: runnersdialzero on May 06, 2012, 04:38:44 PM
I'm sure I read that he sang Do You Wanna Dance at the first show although I haven't seen a video of it and Brian seems to have taken that one over. I always liked Bruce's live vocal on that so i'd have him sing it. I'd like to see David take a stab at Sail On Sailor, Brian just doesn't seem to want to sing it for whatever reason.

His reason apparently is he thinks the lyrics are god awful.  I wonder if he has a strong dislike for one of the writers or something?

Maybe he was 'saving it' and got pissed when they finished the song without him. 

He was known to have worked on (and I believe recorded?) a version outside of the band's knowledge, thus none of his work for it was used on the final version beyond his initial bits of melody and chords. So there's that stacked against it in addition to him seemingly just genuinely not being a fan of the lyrics. I don't recall his exact words, but it was something along the lines of saying the song was too negative. Halp me out, folks.


Title: Re: David Marks Reunion
Post by: Pretty Funky on May 06, 2012, 04:50:52 PM
Are we talking Brian and SoS here? The use of 'he' is losing me.

If that is the case, listen to Ep 9 of the 'Warmth of the Sun' podcast series. Brian goes into the details of the song there.


Title: Re: David Marks Reunion
Post by: stack-o-tracks on May 06, 2012, 05:35:42 PM
I don't have ep 9 of the podcast series, but I remember Brian saying something about how Sail On, Sailor reminds him of bad, or dark times. Something like that.


Title: Re: David Marks Reunion
Post by: runnersdialzero on May 06, 2012, 05:38:39 PM
I don't have ep 9 of the podcast series, but I remember Brian saying something about how Sail On, Sailor reminds him of bad, or dark times. Something like that.

There's that, too.

And yeah, sorry, those couple posts were about Brian and "Sail On Sailor". Apologies for the vagueness.


Title: Re: David Marks Reunion
Post by: Jason on May 06, 2012, 05:39:19 PM
Brian made the comment about Sail On Sailor during his 2009 gig in Philly.

Brian - "This next song we're going to do...I don't like! It's such a negative, shitty..."
Scott - "Should we do it?"
Audience "YEAAAAH!"
Brian - "All right."


Title: Re: David Marks Reunion
Post by: Pretty Funky on May 06, 2012, 06:23:21 PM
From memory, he says he had a lyric from Ray Kennedy, a group of people came around one night and someone in that group rewrote the lyric but he can't remember who. Brian says something like 'I could never get with that lyric'.


Title: Re: David Marks Reunion
Post by: runnersdialzero on May 06, 2012, 06:44:22 PM
From memory, he says he had a lyric from Ray Kennedy, a group of people came around one night and someone in that group rewrote the lyric but he can't remember who. Brian says something like 'I could never get with that lyric'.

Has anybody ever really said who wrote what in this song? I'm pretty sure some of the finer details have been lost to time, but man, what a mess. And I really do like the song, I feel bad because I just kinda spoke negatively of it the other day, but I really have to think that the final result probably suffered greatly from too many cooks being in the kitchen.


Title: Re: David Marks Reunion
Post by: the professor on May 08, 2012, 07:31:29 PM
"There is a really nice collection of material on there," he said. "Brian still has it. He's written one song ("That's Why God Made the Radio") that's right up there with his best. I was really happy to be able to add my guitar onto that track."

Read more: http://www.newstimes.com/news/article/Beach-Boys-are-back-including-the-one-from-3543413.php#ixzz1uKsEueGV

Notice that it is indeed David playing guitar, in that your summer dream style, on the song.  I had wondered this a while ago.


Title: Re: David Marks Reunion
Post by: JesusUK on May 08, 2012, 08:12:37 PM
I was really hoping to hear more from David at the Tampa show.  He does quite a bit of backing vocals.  But his lead looks to be relegated to one (or no) songs a night.  I was lucky to get "Hawaii" in Tampa.  Either wear, he looks like he's having more fun than anyone else on the stage!

b


Title: Re: David Marks Reunion
Post by: Aegir on May 08, 2012, 10:54:39 PM
From memory, he says he had a lyric from Ray Kennedy, a group of people came around one night and someone in that group rewrote the lyric but he can't remember who. Brian says something like 'I could never get with that lyric'.

That's really interesting, the Ray Kennedy lyrics are pretty funny (unintentionally). They mention living in the ghetto and being coked out. and "Heartbreak city ain't so pretty when you're down in nitty gritty"


Title: Re: David Marks Reunion
Post by: b00ts on May 08, 2012, 11:39:35 PM
From memory, he says he had a lyric from Ray Kennedy, a group of people came around one night and someone in that group rewrote the lyric but he can't remember who. Brian says something like 'I could never get with that lyric'.

Has anybody ever really said who wrote what in this song? I'm pretty sure some of the finer details have been lost to time, but man, what a mess. And I really do like the song, I feel bad because I just kinda spoke negatively of it the other day, but I really have to think that the final result probably suffered greatly from too many cooks being in the kitchen.
Yes, the lyrics are tortuous, like Riely's lyrics for "Long Promised Road" and "Feel Flows," although in spite of their overly verbose nature, those two songs' lyrics flow off the tongue much more melifluously than "Sail on Sailor's" lyric does.

"Sail on Sailor" suffers from a lyric that relies on a very simple, childlike rhyme scheme in the bridge... Grumble/Rumble/Tumble/Stumble/Blunder/Thunder/Wonder/Under... and because of the large amount of clumsy consonants in the verse lyrics, it can't be as easy to sing as it would be if, say, Tony Asher or Van Dyke Parks wrote all the words. "Gale swept seaways," for instance, is not easy to sing compared to something with more assonance.

I'd love to hear a fully-Brianized "Sail on Sailor." That would be something to behold.


Title: Re: David Marks Reunion
Post by: STE on May 09, 2012, 12:06:06 AM


It's been reported that David sang "Surfin'Safari" last night.



Title: Re: David Marks Reunion
Post by: Aegir on May 09, 2012, 12:16:12 AM
I don't remember that happening. he sang Hawaii, I think, and that's about it. but I wasn't paying attention to who was singing it, I was really distracted by everyone in the audience singing along and not saying "surf route"


Title: Re: David Marks Reunion
Post by: STE on May 09, 2012, 03:57:32 AM
I don't remember that happening. he sang Hawaii, I think, and that's about it. but I wasn't paying attention to who was singing it, I was really distracted by everyone in the audience singing along and not saying "surf route"


Yes, scratch that.  It was mistakenly reported as such  in the Beacon thread.





Title: Re: David Marks Reunion
Post by: Craig Boyd on May 09, 2012, 04:53:58 AM
I think Dave really enjoys singing "Forever" as he did on the BBs's 2008 UK Tour http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsZ5NSatN8A

Since Dennis himself is singing that song on this tour its not a possibility for him. Things like Do You Wanna Dance and Sail On Sailor have been suggested, but he's happy to let one of the other guys handle those... I think Dave might have another song or two in mind. We'll see as the tour develops. Right now he's really stepping up in the guitar department and focusing on giving that his all.

I was at this show! People were baffled as to why I was so excited to see this guy David Marks up on stage, it took a while to explain the story!  :lol