Title: So much for all the good feeling Post by: Sound of Free on April 26, 2012, 09:36:02 AM The first show is a big hit and TWGMTR is released. Everything is good. What could possibly go wrong?
http://apps.facebook.com/dailysocial/article/2012/04/26/042612-gossip-beach-boys-johnson-1-2 I don't whether Melinda is hero or villain, but it's a nice time for the "Beach Boys insider" to come out and stir things up. >:( Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: SMiLE Brian on April 26, 2012, 09:39:27 AM My God the Drama begins if this is all true.
Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: Justin on April 26, 2012, 09:41:00 AM Can someone do a copy and paste of this link for those who aren't on Facebook?
Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: Jaspy on April 26, 2012, 09:43:32 AM Can someone do a copy and paste of this link for those who aren't on Facebook? http://www.thebeachboys.ch/Forum/viewtopic.php?p=16676#16676 Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: anazgnos on April 26, 2012, 09:44:48 AM http://www.thedaily.com/page/2012/04/26/042612-gossip-beach-boys-johnson-1-2
Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: Andrew G. Doe on April 26, 2012, 09:45:06 AM And this is news how, exactly ?
Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: pixletwin on April 26, 2012, 09:45:22 AM Tabloid gossip.
I'm moving on. Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: Eireannach on April 26, 2012, 09:46:38 AM Trash.
Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: Justin on April 26, 2012, 09:47:24 AM http://www.thedaily.com/page/2012/04/26/042612-gossip-beach-boys-johnson-1-2 Ah much better, thanks! Never heard of The Daily...I wouldn't put much stock into this fluff. Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: SMiLE Brian on April 26, 2012, 09:48:00 AM After reading this in detail, this is trash.
Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: Wirestone on April 26, 2012, 09:53:50 AM Good feeling? Have you been on this board for the last couple of days? We're all losing our collective minds!
That being said, the bigger name of the band means there's more opportunity for gossip that's old news to fans like us to spread to a wider audience. I just wonder who the anonymous source is ... Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: Sound of Free on April 26, 2012, 10:03:03 AM And this is news how, exactly ? It's not news it's just maddening on how someone has to come out with this NOW as everything is going great.Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: Wirestone on April 26, 2012, 10:04:36 AM And this is news how, exactly ? It's not news it's just maddening on how someone has to come out with this NOW as everything is going great.I would argue that if Mike actually did walk out of the rehearsals for three days over a confrontation with MLW, that would be news-ish. I suspect that's not quite what happened (he doesn't have an instrument, so he may well not have been needed all those days), but still ... Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: Jaspy on April 26, 2012, 10:04:42 AM I just wonder who the anonymous source is ... The promotion agent. Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: 37!ws on April 26, 2012, 10:13:50 AM Of course a PUBLIC RELATIONS agent is going to deny everything...but yeah, this is SOOOOOOOOOOO not news. (Personally, I do applaud her for finding a way to make Mike go away!)
Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: Andrew G. Doe on April 26, 2012, 10:33:21 AM And this is news how, exactly ? It's not news it's just maddening on how someone has to come out with this NOW as everything is going great.I would argue that if Mike actually did walk out of the rehearsals for three days over a confrontation with MLW, that would be news-ish. I suspect that's not quite what happened (he doesn't have an instrument, so he may well not have been needed all those days), but still ... Didn't happen at all. Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: Shady on April 26, 2012, 10:37:32 AM Totally untrue, Mike wouldn't disappear for 3 days, he would just go do TM
Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: endofposts on April 26, 2012, 10:47:47 AM I believe the article. Though it's possible that Mike stormed off for three days when he already had three days off on his schedule, and perhaps the source of the article wasn't aware of that fact. I can't see them all rehearsing seven days a week even in the week before the first show. I don't think Melinda is doing anything unusual other than outsiders are now being made aware of it. I do hope she gets them to stop using autotune, whether she signed off on it first or someone else encouraged either her or the band to think it's a good idea.
Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: Mike's Beard on April 26, 2012, 10:54:33 AM I just wonder who the anonymous source is ... Phil Cohen. Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: Wrightfan on April 26, 2012, 10:55:24 AM "Melinda, a former model, is said to be filling the role of the late Eugene Landy,"
Yeah, I stopped reading after that. I hate journalism :lol Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: endofposts on April 26, 2012, 11:00:21 AM There was no reason for the item to appear other than someone inside the Beach Boys camp wants Melinda to look bad or at least to know the amount of control she has over Brian's life. Whether everything in the article is accurate or not, somebody on the inside wants the public to know about it.
Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: Ron on April 26, 2012, 11:13:47 AM My reaction to this 'news' can best be summed up in Song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SP3MT1jNpGc&feature=related Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: Peter Reum on April 26, 2012, 11:17:58 AM Brian is married. His wife is his partner.
Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: Ron on April 26, 2012, 11:30:59 AM Brian is married. His wife is his partner. Exactly. Take the name "Brian Wilson" out of it, and you have any other couple who have been married 20 years and are their ages. The wife calls all the shots? 'Duh' Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: SG7 on April 26, 2012, 11:32:27 AM I don't see the point for this obviously.
Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: Chocolate Shake Man on April 26, 2012, 11:37:13 AM There was no reason for the item to appear other than someone inside the Beach Boys camp wants Melinda to look bad or at least to know the amount of control she has over Brian's life. Whether everything in the article is accurate or not, somebody on the inside wants the public to know about it. Um...yyyyeaaahhh. Well, if the "insider" was actually a credible figure and if he or she had actual evidence to back up his or her claims then the insider probably would have taken their story to a legitimate news source, not The Daily. Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: endofposts on April 26, 2012, 11:54:05 AM Brian is married. His wife is his partner. That's how a lot of spousal abuse thrives. I'm not saying that's how it works for this couple, but it's not healthy to give someone permission to make your life decisions for you if you're over the age of 18. Partners are not parents. Yes, spouses are partners that deserve to have mutual decision making capability as to how their life as a couple runs. Married people should compromise and comes to agreement on things like the houses they live in, where they go on vacations, how many kids to have and how to raise them, and things like that. Which are very major life decisions, but they're in the house, not a person's working life. It would be hard to run a business if everyone had to run their decisions at work with their spouse. Which is why it's often a pain to work with married couples who both work at the same place of business, having done so. Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: lance on April 26, 2012, 12:00:22 PM Eh, this kind of sh*t goes on in lots of enterprises, including bands.
It's not news--I believe it to some extent; this is the Beach Boys, they are not going to just be all happy huggy-wuggy with each other all the time and these issues of who is in control of Brian have pretty much been going on for 50 years; but I wouldn't let it rattle our enjoyment. At the end of the day, I am honestly just hoping all of them make it through this year in good health and make music by themselves or together for many years to come. Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: Tristero on April 26, 2012, 12:25:40 PM Nothin' to see here people. Just a lot of vague hearsay and gossip spread by nameless "insiders".
Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: Autotune on April 26, 2012, 12:30:09 PM As Wirestone put it, this is representative of the new high profile the band has achieved. Gossip comes along with it.
Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: The Shift on April 26, 2012, 12:31:39 PM Good feeling? Have you been on this board for the last couple of days? We're all losing our collective minds! That being said, the bigger name of the band means there's more opportunity for gossip that's old news to fans like us to spread to a wider audience. I just wonder who the anonymous source is ... If there is a source. Forget this one. Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: Aegir on April 26, 2012, 12:37:30 PM why anyone believes tabloids is beyond me.
Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: endofposts on April 26, 2012, 12:52:58 PM There were tabloid rumors that Jessica Jones caused problems on the last Monkees' reunion by demanding to dance in the show. She a flamenco dancer, so the other guys thought it was out of place. Tabloids love that kind of thing.
Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: Wirestone on April 26, 2012, 01:17:56 PM I talked to my sister about this and sent her the link. She's not a Beach Boys fan, but she does track a lot of gossip columns online.
Her take: It's almost certainly entirely fictional. She said anytime a columnist writes someone "stormed out" of something, it's a giveaway that's its pure fabrication. She even said she thought it was unlikely that anyone connected to the band or tour talked to the reporter -- someone from the Daily simply saw the group was touring, did some quick online searching, and decided to do a villainous Melinda piece. Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: endofposts on April 26, 2012, 01:24:16 PM Then why did Jean Sievers allow herself to speak on the record about it? She must have thought there was some sort of credibility that someone in the camp was trying to stir up s***, even if any or all the "facts" cited are completely untrue.
Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: Wirestone on April 26, 2012, 01:28:19 PM Then why did Jean Sievers allow herself to speak on the record about it? She must have thought there was some sort of credibility that someone in the camp was trying to stir up s***, even if any or all the "facts" cited are completely untrue. It's a damned if you do and damned if you don't situation, though. If she doesn't comment, everyone will assume it's true. Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: cablegeddon on April 26, 2012, 01:57:05 PM The beach boys aren't exactly Brad Pitt or Lindsey Lohan to these gossip publications so if they didn't have a legitmate source I doubt that they would bother with it at all. That source could be lying of course but that's another issue.
Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: Micha on April 26, 2012, 02:10:07 PM Totally untrue, Mike wouldn't disappear for 3 days, he would just go do TM He'd yogi fly away. :-D Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: SMiLE Brian on April 26, 2012, 02:16:48 PM Totally untrue, Mike wouldn't disappear for 3 days, he would just go do TM He'd yogi fly away. :-D Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: Chocolate Shake Man on April 26, 2012, 02:19:42 PM Then why did Jean Sievers allow herself to speak on the record about it? She must have thought there was some sort of credibility that someone in the camp was trying to stir up s***, even if any or all the "facts" cited are completely untrue. I think "This is completely inaccurate" rather than "No comment" registers as a pretty telling response. And, again, I repeat, who the hell goes to The Daily with a story? Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: endofposts on April 26, 2012, 02:51:47 PM Then why did Jean Sievers allow herself to speak on the record about it? She must have thought there was some sort of credibility that someone in the camp was trying to stir up s***, even if any or all the "facts" cited are completely untrue. I think "This is completely inaccurate" rather than "No comment" registers as a pretty telling response. And, again, I repeat, who the hell goes to The Daily with a story? "The Daily" isn't a tabloid. It's a tablet news app for iPad and Android. They also write serious news stories. You have to pay to subscribe to the app and can only view stories on the Internet that are linked via Facebook. That doesn't mean it's not just gossip, or that it's true, but it's not strictly TMZ or the Enquirer, either. Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: runnersdialzero on April 26, 2012, 02:55:42 PM I think "This is completely inaccurate" rather than "No comment" registers as a pretty telling response. I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky. Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: Amy B. on April 26, 2012, 03:08:17 PM I have no idea what's true or not, but journalists do love to cast the wife as the villain, especially if the husband seems very influenced by her presence. Yoko and Linda...hello?
The Landy comparison is unfair. Is Melinda feeding Brian drugs that are turning his brain to mush? They left out the part about how Brian is mentally ill and possibly incapable of doing certain things for himself and needs a strong person to lean on. It's possible that Melinda felt she needed to be there to "protect" Brian in a potentially stressful situation and suddenly she's cast as a controlling b*tch. Oh, and I highly doubt he's not allowed to go to the restroom alone, as we've all heard about how he goes for his morning walks and deli visits alone. When one "fact" seems out of whack, it throws the whole story into question. Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: Heysaboda on April 26, 2012, 03:10:23 PM GEEZ
why post this Crap here PEOPLE? Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: Aegir on April 26, 2012, 03:15:37 PM Oh, and I highly doubt he's not allowed to go to the restroom alone, as we've all heard about how he goes for his morning walks and deli visits alone. When one "fact" seems out of whack, it throws the whole story into question. Well, I think that was hyperbole.Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: Amy B. on April 26, 2012, 04:04:11 PM Oh, and I highly doubt he's not allowed to go to the restroom alone, as we've all heard about how he goes for his morning walks and deli visits alone. When one "fact" seems out of whack, it throws the whole story into question. Well, I think that was hyperbole.Fair enough. But the idea that he doesn't have any independence doesn't seem quite right. Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: Ron on April 26, 2012, 04:16:00 PM They all looked pretty well put together on the pictures I saw of the concert. We'll see if Melinda rushes the stage tonight and starts beating Brian. I doubt it.
Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: Rocker on April 27, 2012, 10:31:44 AM If Melinda can do that, I hope she regularly chats with Stamos
Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: Mr. Cohen on April 27, 2012, 10:37:08 AM Foskett leaked the news. He kept following Brian into the bathroom, so Melinda stepped in.
Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: PhilCohen on May 01, 2012, 11:32:08 PM I just wonder who the anonymous source is ... Phil Cohen. These rumors have nothing whatsoever to do with me. Demonizing me seems to be a popular activity around here. Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: Andrew G. Doe on May 01, 2012, 11:45:05 PM I just wonder who the anonymous source is ... Phil Cohen. These rumors have nothing whatsoever to do with me. Demonizing me seems to be a popular activity around here. Popular, and FUN ! Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: SonoraDick on May 02, 2012, 12:13:43 AM Here's my story, which is probably worth about as much as this "report".
My wife & I attended the BB soundcheck before the Tucson show last Tuesday. After we were seated, Melinda & a woman who looked vaguely familiar (as well as quite attractive) sat down in the row directly in front of us. My wife asked me if I knew who the second woman was. They also left together, before the soundcheck was completed, exiting to the opposite aisle from which they entered... in other words, walking directly in front of us, one row forward. I'll admit to briefly admiring the younger woman again but quickly forgot about her. When my wife got home from work the next day, she asked me to "guess'' who Melinda's companion was. I still had no idea. She told me she was the current Mrs Mike Love. She had done some googling from work & was certain that's who it was. I thought that was funny, but didn't think anything more of it until now. I trust my wife's (or most females) photographic memory of another woman much more than mine, and at least as much as I do this story. Ok, more. :-D Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: MBE on May 02, 2012, 12:17:19 AM Some people's reservations about Melinda have been public knowledge since articles in Mojo, Uncut, and the like appeared on the groups then current tentions back in 1995-96. I think the new article is just silly, and, as the Beach Boys are working together again, I assume the camps have made some level of peace with each other. Many have not realized the positives Brian got from being in the group and underestimated the talent of the others. If Melinda thought like that at one point is it so shocking? I'm not praising her or putting her down, but just pointing out that some who love Brian have not grasped that he wasn't the only talented or decent person in the group. Maybe she now does, maybe not, but they are a group again and for this to happen her view has likely evolved since 1986 or 1993 etc.
Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: bossaroo on May 02, 2012, 12:25:30 AM is this her, SonoraDick?
(http://assets.rollingstone.com/assets/images/gallery/500x595/a9cc6eeedb1a7611e3daeddf4f8d55ba9053a51c.jpg) Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: The Heartical Don on May 02, 2012, 12:34:07 AM is this her, SonoraDick? (http://assets.rollingstone.com/assets/images/gallery/500x595/a9cc6eeedb1a7611e3daeddf4f8d55ba9053a51c.jpg) You are telling me that her popular European abbreviated etc. name would be: So Love-Dick? :o Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: Jaspy on May 02, 2012, 12:57:44 AM Not that I would know something, but just from the outside fan-perspective, I had and still have the impression that Melinda always acted in Brian's best interests. Sure, she encouraged him to start a touring career and do this and that, but under the line, I don't think she could force him to do anything he really didn't want to do. Melina is not Landy, nor Yoko. :violin
Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: Aegir on May 02, 2012, 01:17:53 AM Mike's wife can't be particularly young, they've been married for about 20 years.
Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: SonoraDick on May 02, 2012, 11:51:57 AM is this her, SonoraDick? (http://assets.rollingstone.com/assets/images/gallery/500x595/a9cc6eeedb1a7611e3daeddf4f8d55ba9053a51c.jpg) Mike's wife can't be particularly young, they've been married for about 20 years. Well, that's the photo from which my wife reached her conclusion. By the next day, I only remembered the beautiful, long hair. (To be honest, ANY amount of hair is impressive to me at this stage.) Aegir, at my age, most women look young. I was surprised by the length of the marriage, but you're right... since 1994. BTW, when my wife was searching for photos of the wives, she also pointed out that Al's wife sat nearby. Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: endofposts on May 02, 2012, 01:19:12 PM Am I correct in remembering that Jacqui Love has a college degree in chemistry? She does look quite a bit younger than Mike, though she might be in her forties or early fifties. Which would still make her a good 20 years or so younger than Mike.
Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: oldsurferdude on May 02, 2012, 03:18:24 PM is this her, SonoraDick? Is he wearing a maternity outfit? Look at that mountain in the midsection-and Myke's a skinny guy. What a profile. :lol(http://assets.rollingstone.com/assets/images/gallery/500x595/a9cc6eeedb1a7611e3daeddf4f8d55ba9053a51c.jpg) Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: Dave in KC on May 02, 2012, 11:40:36 PM Guess you haven't noticed the last week with all new pics and on-stage performances. Mike Love is no longer a skinny guy, by any stretch of the imagination.
Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: lance on May 02, 2012, 11:53:02 PM went to google picures and put in mike love wife.
The woman he is dancing with is definitely her, though she looks far foxier in the other pictures. She looks a very foxy early forties. A lot of women that age are still young looking. Good for Mike! Title: Re: So much for all the good feeling Post by: MBE on May 03, 2012, 02:33:56 AM Guess you haven't noticed the last week with all new pics and on-stage performances. Mike Love is no longer a skinny guy, by any stretch of the imagination. By the Endless Harmony interview he had a pot belly and still does. Still that's not anything really notable as Mike was past 55 when he put on a few. |