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Title: TWGMTR Now on iTUNES
Post by: southbay on April 25, 2012, 02:36:23 PM
Now available for Download i on iTunes!


Title: Re: TWGMTR Now on iTUNES
Post by: The Shift on April 25, 2012, 02:41:53 PM
Available on amazon UK on the 'morrow!


Title: Re: TWGMTR Now on iTUNES
Post by: Paulos on April 25, 2012, 02:43:44 PM
Available on amazon UK on the 'morrow!

Damn straight it is! Will it be available as soon as it turns midnight?


Title: Re: TWGMTR Now on iTUNES
Post by: FatherOfTheMan Sr101 on April 25, 2012, 02:47:25 PM
Just got it on iTunes, gonna buy another for my girl ;) Haha!


Title: Re: TWGMTR Now on iTUNES
Post by: The Shift on April 25, 2012, 02:49:09 PM
Available on amazon UK on the 'morrow!

Damn straight it is! Will it be available as soon as it turns midnight?

I jolly well hope so!


Title: Re: TWGMTR Now on iTUNES
Post by: CarlTheVoice on April 25, 2012, 02:50:57 PM
So is it available on both iTunes and Amazon in the UK tomorrow? Or can I get it from iTunes now?


Title: Re: TWGMTR Now on iTUNES
Post by: Paulos on April 25, 2012, 02:53:35 PM
Doesn't appear to be on iTunes UK yet.


Title: Re: TWGMTR Now on iTUNES
Post by: Shady on April 25, 2012, 02:55:10 PM
Should be on UK iTunes in an hour and a bit


Title: Re: TWGMTR Now on iTUNES
Post by: Wirestone on April 25, 2012, 02:56:32 PM
Any songwriting credits on it?


Title: Re: TWGMTR Now on iTUNES
Post by: pixletwin on April 25, 2012, 02:57:04 PM
Any songwriting credits on it?

Joe Thomas, Brian Wilson, Jim Peterik & Larry Millas


Title: Re: TWGMTR Now on iTUNES
Post by: Wirestone on April 25, 2012, 03:08:37 PM
Any songwriting credits on it?

Joe Thomas, Brian Wilson, Jim Peterik & Larry Millas

Yep. There is is.

Wonder if we'll ever know what Brian contributed.

Edit: Assuming he's not on there just for the sake of being on there (which is certainly possible), I'll speculate that he probably contributed to the chorus and tag section.


Title: Re: TWGMTR Now on iTUNES
Post by: The Shift on April 25, 2012, 03:18:19 PM
Does the quality of files differ between iTunes and Amazon?

Edit: stow that, I have download credit at Amazon!


Title: Re: TWGMTR Now on iTUNES
Post by: AndrewHickey on April 25, 2012, 03:21:34 PM
Any songwriting credits on it?

Joe Thomas, Brian Wilson, Jim Peterik & Larry Millas

Yep. There is is.

Wonder if we'll ever know what Brian contributed.

Edit: Assuming he's not on there just for the sake of being on there (which is certainly possible), I'll speculate that he probably contributed to the chorus and tag section.

I would imagine that since it was an older song, Brian's contribution will have been the middle eight -- which is pretty much easily detachable from the rest of the song.


Title: Re: TWGMTR Now on iTUNES
Post by: SamMcK on April 25, 2012, 03:23:05 PM
Come on UK iTunes i'm going crazy waiting for this! 8)


Title: Re: TWGMTR Now on iTUNES
Post by: Rocker on April 25, 2012, 03:24:07 PM
Any songwriting credits on it?

Joe Thomas, Brian Wilson, Jim Peterik & Larry Millas

Yep. There is is.

Wonder if we'll ever know what Brian contributed.

Edit: Assuming he's not on there just for the sake of being on there (which is certainly possible), I'll speculate that he probably contributed to the chorus and tag section.

I would imagine that since it was an older song, Brian's contribution will have been the middle eight -- which is pretty much easily detachable from the rest of the song.



That part sounds the least like Brian imo. I have no idea what he did contribute (maybe AGD will know more soon) but I wouldn't think the middle-eight.


Title: Re: TWGMTR Now on iTUNES
Post by: FatherOfTheMan Sr101 on April 25, 2012, 03:28:33 PM
Any songwriting credits on it?

Joe Thomas, Brian Wilson, Jim Peterik & Larry Millas

Yep. There is is.

Wonder if we'll ever know what Brian contributed.

Edit: Assuming he's not on there just for the sake of being on there (which is certainly possible), I'll speculate that he probably contributed to the chorus and tag section.

I would imagine that since it was an older song, Brian's contribution will have been the middle eight -- which is pretty much easily detachable from the rest of the song.



That part sounds the least like Brian imo. I have no idea what he did contribute (maybe AGD will know more soon) but I wouldn't think the middle-eight.


I agree, I'm thinking he arranged it all, just using the chords and lyrics from the old draft.


Title: Re: TWGMTR Now on iTUNES
Post by: Wirestone on April 25, 2012, 03:31:04 PM
Any songwriting credits on it?

Joe Thomas, Brian Wilson, Jim Peterik & Larry Millas

Yep. There is is.

Wonder if we'll ever know what Brian contributed.

Edit: Assuming he's not on there just for the sake of being on there (which is certainly possible), I'll speculate that he probably contributed to the chorus and tag section.

I would imagine that since it was an older song, Brian's contribution will have been the middle eight -- which is pretty much easily detachable from the rest of the song.



That part sounds the least like Brian imo. I have no idea what he did contribute (maybe AGD will know more soon) but I wouldn't think the middle-eight.

Yeah, I originally thought the middle eight would be what he contributed, but it doesn't sound like him at all.

As I said, I think he probably reworked the chorus some harmonically. And the tag with the revolving vocals is clearly his, even if that's more arrangement than co-writing.

...

The other option, as c-man has said, is that Brian came up with the title and possibly a fragment of melody back in the late 90s when he was working on Imagination (or its follow up) with Joe. Joe then worked with Jim and Larry to create a full song.


Title: Re: TWGMTR Now on iTUNES
Post by: Runaways on April 25, 2012, 03:31:29 PM
Bought  8)


Title: Re: TWGMTR Now on iTUNES
Post by: Rob Dean on April 25, 2012, 03:36:36 PM
Right , now everyone email/phone your local and national Radio stations to get it on their playlists


Title: Re: TWGMTR Now on iTUNES
Post by: Wirestone on April 25, 2012, 03:38:06 PM
All that being said, I think it can sometimes be useful to follow the "if it sounds like it, it's probably true" rule in BB/BW land. It's not always the case, but it often is.

For example, I remember reading (inaccurately) that the Wrecking Crew did all the tracks after the first couple of albums. And I remember feeling foolish because it seemed so clear to me that those little guitar solos were by Carl. I mean, they all sounded the same. But I guess I didn't know what I was talking about.

Well, guess what? Those are all by Carl.

Likewise, if you played the TLOS demos to any real BW/BB fan, they could tell that it was a Brian writing and arranging project. You can just hear it. (And I don't think all of his ideas necessarily sound like Love You or the Wrecking Crew, but a lot do.)

So if you sit down and listen to TWGMTR, it's pretty clear that Brian had a hand in it. It has some baritone sax in the track. It has some organ. It sounds like a track he would cut with his solo band. The verses are lifts from earlier songs by him, regardless of who put them there. And that chorus -- and the way the voices weave in and out -- it just sounds like a big BW harmony orgasm.

So regardless of how the song came about -- Brian reworking something that already existed (which he did with Let the Wind Blow, for instance, which he also has a credit on) or providing the germ of an idea that others expanded upon (which has been done other times in his solo career) it has his fingerprints all over it.

And that's how it should be.


Title: Re: TWGMTR Now on iTUNES
Post by: AndrewHickey on April 25, 2012, 03:43:56 PM
Yeah, I originally thought the middle eight would be what he contributed, but it doesn't sound like him at all.

As I said, I think he probably reworked the chorus some harmonically. And the tag with the revolving vocals is clearly his, even if that's more arrangement than co-writing.

It definitely sounds like him, but then the most Brian-sounding thing on the Imagination album was Joe Thomas' tag for Sunshine, so we know that Thomas can do that kind of thing very well, too...


Title: Re: TWGMTR Now on iTUNES
Post by: Wirestone on April 25, 2012, 03:45:19 PM
Yeah, I originally thought the middle eight would be what he contributed, but it doesn't sound like him at all.

As I said, I think he probably reworked the chorus some harmonically. And the tag with the revolving vocals is clearly his, even if that's more arrangement than co-writing.

It definitely sounds like him, but then the most Brian-sounding thing on the Imagination album was Joe Thomas' tag for Sunshine, so we know that Thomas can do that kind of thing very well, too...

You mean the most Dennis-sounding thing on the Imagination album.  ;D


Title: Re: TWGMTR Now on iTUNES
Post by: Les Chan on April 25, 2012, 03:58:47 PM
Thanks! I've purchased the single too!   I still miss going to my local record store and buying  a 45 rpm but downloading satisfies my I WANT IT NOW !!!  Poof, its on my computer.


Title: Re: TWGMTR Now on iTUNES
Post by: AndrewHickey on April 25, 2012, 04:01:46 PM
Available on amazon UK on the 'morrow!

Damn straight it is! Will it be available as soon as it turns midnight?

Apparently not (it's two minutes past now ;) )


Title: Re: TWGMTR Now on iTUNES
Post by: MaxL on April 25, 2012, 04:07:24 PM
Available on amazon UK on the 'morrow!

Damn straight it is! Will it be available as soon as it turns midnight?

Apparently not (it's two minutes past now ;) )

It's up now :)


Title: Re: TWGMTR Now on iTUNES
Post by: HeyJude on April 25, 2012, 04:12:17 PM
Just downloaded off of iTunes. (Was going to go through Amazon, but sorry Amazon, whoever puts it up first gets my 99 cents). I've heard the "sizzle reel", but otherwise haven't exposed myself to the song much until I could hear the whole thing in relatively good fidelity.

I think it will take more time to digest this. Can't say a lot that others haven't. When they were talking about this song in past months, they weren't really conveying that it was in sort of 3/4 doo wop time. I was picturing a more sort of dramatic ballad, something a bit more modern sounding and less of a throwback. I do like how some of the chords don't resolve the most obvious way. Definitely a lot of Brian and Foskett in there. I can understand using Foskett for all the falsetto stuff. But he sounds like he's in there on some mid-range stuff that Al could have done. I can make Al out in the harmony. Mike seems to be the least discernable in the mix. But I've only listened through a few times.

Production-wise, it's just fine. I don't hear much Thomas-esque stuff going on. It does sound like recent Brian productions and mixes. Still too much reverb for my taste, but the reverb isn't majorily intense.


Title: Re: TWGMTR Now on iTUNES
Post by: Shady on April 25, 2012, 04:14:09 PM
Just bought mine, 12 on the dot


Title: Re: TWGMTR Now on iTUNES
Post by: Wirestone on April 25, 2012, 04:14:53 PM
We should really do a line-by-line breakdown of the song with indications on who is most audible where.


Title: Re: TWGMTR Now on iTUNES
Post by: HeyJude on April 25, 2012, 04:17:37 PM
We should really do a line-by-line breakdown of the song with indications on who is most audible where.

I don't know how useful it would be other than for fun. I think it's all blended too much to tell for sure, other than Brian being up front as the main lead vocalist.


Title: Re: TWGMTR Now on iTUNES
Post by: Newguy562 on April 25, 2012, 04:22:45 PM
i love the the "thats why god made the radio" part of the chorus in the beginning but the song fell apart after that :/...well the outro is pretty good too.


Title: Re: TWGMTR Now on iTUNES
Post by: Wirestone on April 25, 2012, 04:24:11 PM
We should really do a line-by-line breakdown of the song with indications on who is most audible where.

I don't know how useful it would be other than for fun. I think it's all blended too much to tell for sure, other than Brian being up front as the main lead vocalist.

I don't think that's true, actually. Al is super audible in a couple of places -- "in my car" and "like a prayer" for instance.

People give up too easily!


Title: Re: TWGMTR Now on iTUNES
Post by: Runaways on April 25, 2012, 04:29:11 PM
i love the the "thats why god made the radio" part of the chorus in the beginning but the song fell apart after that :/...well the outro is pretty good too.

Outro is the best part


Title: Re: TWGMTR Now on iTUNES
Post by: HeyJude on April 25, 2012, 04:31:04 PM
We should really do a line-by-line breakdown of the song with indications on who is most audible where.

I don't know how useful it would be other than for fun. I think it's all blended too much to tell for sure, other than Brian being up front as the main lead vocalist.

I don't think that's true, actually. Al is super audible in a couple of places -- "in my car" and "like a prayer" for instance.

People give up too easily!


Sure, I hear Al there. But it's a big mix of vocals, and I don't think a ton of spots other than those Al bits really stick out in terms of one particular person being super evident.


Title: Re: TWGMTR Now on iTUNES
Post by: Newguy562 on April 25, 2012, 06:30:00 PM
i love the the "thats why god made the radio" part of the chorus in the beginning but the song fell apart after that :/...well the outro is pretty good too.

Outro is the best part
YOU ARE RIGHT :)


Title: Re: TWGMTR Now on iTUNES
Post by: the professor on April 25, 2012, 07:32:46 PM
 I have the song, playing it non stop. heaven itself. . .


Title: Re: TWGMTR Now on iTUNES
Post by: Awesoman on April 25, 2012, 08:14:41 PM
Song reminds me a lot of the BW version of "Keep An Eye On Summer" from Imagination.  It's not quite as stellar as it has been promoted, but it's not a bad tune. 


Title: Re: TWGMTR Now on iTUNES
Post by: Rocker on April 26, 2012, 09:14:14 AM
I think TWGMTR is very much in the style of Ballad Of Ol' Betsy. As Good timin' was a new Surfer Girl (Dennis described it as that and I agree), TWGMTR is a new Ballad Of Ol' Betsy (Boob  ;D)


Title: Re: TWGMTR Now on iTUNES
Post by: atroxi on April 26, 2012, 09:20:39 AM
I'm a little shocked that this isn't on Spotify.


Title: Re: TWGMTR Now on iTUNES
Post by: Heysaboda on April 26, 2012, 02:31:33 PM
I bought my copy on ITunes last night and I've listened to it 5 or 6 times already.

It's just Drop Dead Gorgeous in every way!

Drop
Dead
Gorgeous

LOVE that little organ/guitar opening -- very retro!

What a nice, very prominent part for Brian.

I don't know what the Young Uns will think, but us Old Guys like it.


Title: Re: TWGMTR Now on iTUNES
Post by: CarlTheVoice on April 26, 2012, 02:47:37 PM
I'm a young-un and I love it!