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I just heard about this as my wife watches TV in the next room. I've been looking out for this one for awhile now as I recall reading on this board about it being taped some time ago.

Thanks!  I've been checking the CBS Sunday Morning website for a few weeks now.  They usually don't post what's coming up on the next show until the day before.

Mike mentioned that appearance a couple of weeks ago. Good to finally know when it will be shown.
Somebody, please youtube this for me......

Don't forget this one, folks.

Hope someone tapes it.

What time will it be at!

Woah I totally would have forgot about this. Thanks!

The main story for that show usually runs between 45-80 minutes mark.

Maybe a thread could be started for all upcoming TV appearances.

Watching now, just a few preview clips so far.

Preview clips showed a recent interview with everyone together, plus footage from one of the first shows

Apparently they'll be on after this commercial break...

Mike: The Grammy went to Monday, Monday
Brian: OH MY GOD, REALLY?

 :lol

Are you guys gonna record it (and YouTube it later) ?

Mike talking about Murray and how abusive he was

Brian: I was a perfectionist.

Brian: I rather not talk about it (comment about being scared and all)

Mike: Me, Al, and Bruce didn't do drugs and Wilson's and friends did. It kinda pitted us against them.

Brian: I went right to the piano and wrote God Only Knows after hearing Rubber Soul.

Brian: Guys didn't like SMiLE because they thought it was too experimental.

Mike: "Some writer" said I prevented SMiLE. Liked the music, thought lyrics were obtuse.

Brian: (On him telling Mike sounded good for 70) I MEANT IT AS A COMPLIMENT!  :lol

Mike: All we have is right now.

Really great piece on the band.

Unfortunately I don't have a DVR, but I'm sure someone will put it up on YouTube soon

I just recorded it, I will have it up on YouTube in a few minutes.

Are they interviewed together?

We love you!

Nice to see some of the new concert footage in HD quality on my big screen TV.  I hope they put out a DVD/Blueray of this tour, and I suspect that they will.

That was hilarious!!

Overall a good piece, some factual inaccuracies (specifically them saying how Brian's response to Sgt. Pepper was SMiLE) but that's to be expected. I wish they had spent more time on the new single/album though.

^

Is this another PM thing?

No, haha its not a bootleg thing. It's just a YouTube video. I'll post the link here.

How is that when you write PM nothing happens but when I write HelDo I really wanna get banned?e Rhonda I get a ban warning??


Edit: Dammit, I demand to have the freedom to write Help /\/\e Rhonda!

Oh good. Thanks in advance for sharing it! 8)

Here you are folks!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0aV3ku-ha8

Thanks, you rock!

Thank you!!

Al's facial expressions when Mike talks are quite humorous...

Thanks for posting!

Great.  Thanks so much (usually watch Osgood et. al.  before heading for church, but for some reason didn't this morning - glad I checked the board).

Bruce: "Rubber Soul..... [helpless hand gesture] best Beatles album..." - How very true. Bruce is ma' man.

Mike: "Brian said 'How can a 70-year-old sound like that?'".
Brian: "I didn't mean that in a bad way. That was a compliment!"

 :lol


Generally a well-produced segment on the BBs. Nice.

Thanks so much.  I really enjoyed it.  The interviews were candid, hit the "high and low notes," gracefully, with a great attitude and gratitude for the opportunity to do a reunion tour and album work. 

Brian is a hero and inspiration to many as a real survivor.  I hope he knows it.   ;)

Brian on "monday,monday" winning a grammy- "oh my god" :lol

It`s interesting just how dominant Mike is in these interviews.

That's the kind of guy Mike is. 

Saw this this morning on TV. Somebody did their homework on the story and got it right.  Covered a lot of bases and I thought it was very well done.

He ain't dominant in the sense that he's oppressing the other guys. He's simply the spokesman of the band (in a sense he's always been), he's good at this kind of stuff. I'm sure it's something the guys agreed upon for the reunion press coverage, and this interview in particular, and it's the right decision.

Shame though that we didn't see a sentence out of Dave, really. There's a snippet where he's clearly answering a question, just with some BBs song audible instead of his voice. Guess they took all of that out to focus on Mike & Brian.

It was really good. Only sore thumb was them saying Smile was an answer to Sgt. Peppers.

Indeed. I wasn`t criticizing Mike. It`s just so blatant here that he and Brian are the band leaders. I do wonder how Al feels about everything. First the decision was made that the backing band would be made up of none of his musicians and his son was also not included, then his songs were apparently omitted from the new CD and also songs that he was hoping to perform in concert like California Saga and Looking at Tomorrow have been left out.

Fantastic piece, TWGMTR sounds great

But he gets all the ladies!    :lol

a) Brian & Mike got the better touring musicians (who also toured far more with the material than Al's people).
b) As far as I know Matt Jardine wasn't up to the task vocally, plus they needed Foskett to include Brian and thus would have had two CEOs of Falsetto on board.
c) As of yet they played only a handful of gigs - who knows what tunes they will add later on the tour? Plus, Al's got WIBN, HMR, CF etc. so far - I think he's okay with that.

Anyone else notice the clip of them practicing the National Anthem backstage? They sounded great! Now I'm pissed off all over again about that performance's wall of Foskett's.

The best thing Mike said, was basically you can dwell on the past or live in the present.  I totally agree with him, make the most of your life now, and not dwell on slights of the past.

Where did you hear that Matt wasn`t up to the task vocally?

That green bra makes-up for all of this.

Fantastic interview. Wonderful to see them all sitting together.

When Mike and Brian banter like that, it's the best.  Sort of like when they argued about where they wrote Fun Fun Fun.  I think they are at their most affectionate when they have that slightly barbed back-and-forth.

"You're getting senile!"
"YOU are!"

I guess they'd rather (mis)remember that the Grammy went to a quality song instead of "Winchester Cathedral," a novelty number.

Ha! I thought he messed that up. Glad it wasn't just me!

Thank you so much for posting !
Fantastic footage from the rehearsals of the Grammies and backstage at the Dodger's stadium

Excellent.

Is all.

To be fair, Mike wasn't far off at all - "Monday, Monday" did indeed win a Grammy the same year that "Good Vibrations" lost to "Winchester Cathedral."  They were just nominated in different categories, "Monday, Monday" for Pop Performance With Vocal vs. "Good Vibrations" and "Winchester Cathedral" for Contemporary Rock n' Roll Recording. 

I was under the impression that "Winchester Cathedral" was one of those widely-cited examples of how out-of-touch Grammy voters were in the 60s, so it's surprising Mike didn't know that.  That's when most of the academy voters were of the generation to remember Rudy Vallee and loved a song like "Winchester Cathedral" for reminding them of "their" kind of music.  I'm not sure how that song even remotely qualifies as a "contemporary rock'n'roll recording."

Nice piece by CBS, whoever put that together knew the Beach Boys well.

Mike is such a badass.  Gotta love Brian too here, priceless, "I'd rather not talk about that subject".  That is the new definition of being shut down.

Oh yeah, "Rubber Soul" is the best Beatles album, I have no idea how "Revolver" ranked above it in that "best album" of all time poll from a few years back.

Quick question: Has there been a lot of young faces at the recent shows?  Just asking?

That might be true - The nostalgia factor was big, but I always had a suspicion that the Grammy went to "Winchester" not so much for the song itself but because the various effects put on the vocals and other sections were considered "high tech" at the time and became sort of a novelty/tech-y hook on a pedestrian song. Plus it was a safer recording - Good Vibrations, wasn't it even at that time considered a psychedelic drug kind of record, i.e. not as "safe"?

They did give Sgt. Pepper some Grammys the next year, though, so it's interesting to see 66 develop into 67 and some of the changes take place.

Remember "Release Me" kept SFF/Penny Lane out of the pole position in the UK around this time.  Also if you ever watch "American Bandstand" where they debuted the promo clips for the aforementioned Beatles tracks, the reactions of the kids on the show are priceless.

Winchester Cathedral won in 1967 for "Best Contemporary Rock and Roll Recording".  Monday Monday was named "Best Pop Performance by a Duo or Group".  In both cases, BB's got the shaft (but fortunately the gold mine that went along with it).

I've seen some in the videos from Jazz Fest. I guess those festivals will have a lot young people in the audience. As for the shows in halls, I don't know

I know Zoey Deutch from the CW television show "Ringer" went to the JazzFest show because she tweeted about The Beach Boys on her account.  So I was just wondering.  Thanks for the response.

I was little surprised by Brian's refusal to expand on his quote about "fear driving him for most of his life."  

Perhaps the fear he might have on this current reunion tour made this subject a little too close to home to talk about...?

I didn't like the question to begin with and I'm not surprised that Brian shut him down.  It's just not the kind of question you ask someone in a professional interview setting in my opinion.  Talk about the tour, the record, the reunion.  Don't try to play lay psychiatrist and analyze Brian Wilson on national television.

I'm tired of interviewers talking about Brian's past personal problems.

Yeah I get that...I'm not saying that I wanted him to answer it I was just a little surprised that Brian shot the reporter down--kinda proud of him for doing it!  I've never seen him do that  :lol

Well, it's typical with US television, they always want some kind of emotional pique for an interview; something to pull on the heart strings.  They didn't get it here; but Brian's "shot down" will have to do, apparently.  But it should also be noted that other people on the outisde, like this reporter, are less protective of Brian as we are.  He simply didn't know the weight of this question like how we do.  He thought it'd be a short answer that could sum up the quote but he didn't know that it was a complicated question that involved problems that Brian still tortures him today.  

D. Sawyer: how much do you pay Dr. Landy?
B. Wilson: I wish not to tell you that

Jazz Fest was about 33% under 30, 33% between 31 and 50, and 33% over 50

Well they just don't care that's the bottom line.  They want to get their story like you said and I totally understand that.  There should however be some professionalism though exhibited when interviewing someone like Brian Wilson which would involve actually doing some research on past interviews involving the subject.  If this was done people preparing to interview Brian would find that he is usually more engaging when you discuss topics that he gets genuinely excited about for instance his musical influences or favorite records.  He doesn't like talking about what went down in his life post-SMiLE or anything of that nature.  Reporters interviewing Brian should be aware of this and show him the courtesy he deserves by not asking these questions.  I mean you don't have to be a rocket scientist to ascertain that it's probably enough of an effort on Brian's part to even be interviewed in the first place.  Why make it more uncomfortable for him?

Plus by sticking to topics that Brian is comfortable with you'll will more than likely get a better interview out of him instead of trying to pull skeletons out of the closet which as past history shows rarely if ever yields a positive result with Brian.
 

Ah that's right, Lenny.  This one from the CBS interview was a bit more prickly to me, as it was clear that it was a very touchy subject for Brian.  But as mentioned, this wasn't the time nor the place for all that drama to be talked about.  

Brian has been asked about his father and drug use so many times, it's tiresome to watch it being asked, and somewhat uncomfortable.  I'm more interested in questions as to how they went about writing the new album, when will they ever retire, etc.?

I think Brian just didn't know that quote and instea of going with acting like it was his' he just said he wouldn't wanna talk about it

Reporters will do what reporters do. The bigger story is the fact that they are all back together, and while the personal questions were out of place considering the big picture is sitting right in front of them, too often they go for the sensational questions that make the interview "juicy", whatever that means.

I think there is also a disconnect between the fans who are active on boards like this and who know and follow the history of the band, and those fans whose impression of The Beach Boys for several decades was the music Mike was performing live and the music which Brian was performing - there were two separate "Beach Boys" in many people's minds for a long time, and part of that was the past emotional and personal issues that were made public.

That disconnect was driven home even more when you see comments on various BB's concert videos from the past where Bruce is mistaken for Brian on stage.

and that Mike's opinion of SMiLE was stated  by Rock Journalists rather than the 2 creators.

Yes, this sucks. I really wish Matt Jardine were included, but then again no family members/sons are being included. Matt Jardine and Christian Love in particular could have added a lot to the blend.

This was a good piece because it had a new interview with the reunited Beach Boys. They do seem to get along pretty well nowadays. It looks as though David's attitude helps things, as he is a tension-breaker. People like that can be very important in a band with strong personalities (Mike, Al, Brian).

As for the reporter, he is a jerk-off, like most of his ilk. "But this band who was known for harmony had some very unharmonious times" or whatever. He must have thought he was so clever, saying something that has probably been said in every two-bit news piece about the Beach Boys. I love the fact that Brian refused to play patient-therapist on national televison - his refusal to focus on his mental problems is refreshing, and I would love it if he did this to every interviewer who seeks to exploit Brian's personal life for the sake of a good hook.

I think Ed, Billy and Bobby have toured that stuff a bit!

For the reporter, having Brian say he doesn't want to talk about that topic is probably almost as juicy as having Brian answer the question.

It wasn't a two-bit news piece, though, it was a ten minute segment on a national news show, which is way more time than some people would think they deserve.  I thought it was very classy and thoughtful, probably one of the best short bio/interview pieces on the Beach Boys.  I don't think the question was that out of line.  It may have been the reporter was trying to get an idea of Brian's personality and his current ability to handle pressure.  Considering he once had a nervous breakdown touring with the band and has alternated bad experiences touring with them with avoiding them years at a time, it's a fair question.  Brian handled it well by refusing to talk about it. It made him look strong and like he's moved on.

I agree with Brian's handling of it, absolutely. But to be fair, the reporter could have latched onto any number of issues with Mike, Al, and Dave (Bruce stays out of the hurricane, usually) and ask them just as Brian was asked. Mike freaked out as a result of a fast before a prominent show at least once which we know of when Brian had to fill in, Al got sued and avoided Mike for some time over touring issues, David got kicked out of the band for no discernible reason other than Murry meddling in stuff...we all know this stuff here, and any one of those issues could have been the "juicy" part of the interview for public consumption if it had been raised. But Brian's story is/was the most public, so I guess that's why they asked him and not the others.

The band's history is full of drama, it wouldn't be hard for a reporter to zero in on something other than Brian for a change of pace if he/she wants some drama.

It was a ten-minute segment on a national news show with high production values (compared to local news) and large audience. Perhaps two-bit was the wrong word for the show, but it is the right word for this guy's journalism. If it bleeds, it leads.

It was an excellent piece because it had the reunited Beach Boys in it, that's for sure.

a) I think all 3 bands are comprised of musicians who know the material backwards and forwards....as far as Al's band not performing the material much...well, Ed Carter, Bobby Figueroa, and Billy Hinsche have decades of experience playing the music.
b) Matt sounds just fine to these ears.  Saw him at the March 20th Al Jardine show and he sounded great!  There are videos on youtube, check them out!

I do agree with the sentiment that Al is being very humble in taking a back seat to Brian and Mike in all the press and decision making on the tour and the album.  There was a recent interview where Al said that he would ask Mike if they could do a certain song on the tour, and another where Brian and Mike were implied to be in charge of what goes on the album and the concerts setlists.  Do I agree with the way Al is treated as, in a way, less than Brian and Mike?  No.  But am I happy that everyone seems to be getting along fine and putting the past behind?  YES!  :)

Probably because amongst the people who voted there were just accidentally more people with my taste than people with yours... :wink To me, Revolver is the best one, but it's of course just a matter of taste, not objective quality.

 Mike should fess up that he smoked pot and not make it like The Wilson's drug problems really hurt the band for decades when maybe it was ten or eleven years. Still it was cool to see them.= and otherwise he and the others were fine. Brian obviously didn't agree on the fear quote that particular day or even remember saying it. Honestly the one thing any interviewer should know about Brian is that his feelings on anything change depending on his mood. I didn't like that the sensational tone taken at times, but thought it was cool they talked pretty upfront about the break up and the reunion.

It is mind boggling to think that someone who is 70 or near 70 should have to respond for whatever they did or didn't do in their 20's and 30's.  Even the IRS can reach back about 7 years into your financial life.  We have Statutes of Limitations.  Why does the press feel entitled to old lifestyle information?  Brian told them nicely "Nun-ya!" (as in "business.")

They don't have to condone or condemn 40-50 year old issues.  It is ancient history. 

It is a distractor from the focus on the music.    JMHO 

Brian's whole legend and mystique are all based on the 1966-1976 time frame. Reporters are bound to ask about it.

Sorry, I don't agree.  My take is that it was more a "building block" systematic inclusion of modeling of vocal techniques, rock music chord progression, doo-wop, and barbershop harmony, among a plethora of composition and input from various sources.  And some "imprinting" from his family.   Seeing a music score with your father's name on it, notwithstanding that whole "constellation," is an infuence.  Often kids take early influences from their parents, whether in medicine, law, teaching, business, politics, etc.  The family music influence was profound. 

Yes, reporters are likely to ask, because it is a sensationalization of the history and a ratings vehicle.  All the band members brought something to the table.  The work of the band, in the earlier years indicated profound talent, lyrically and vocally. 

The real contemporaries of the band, were into Elvis, Doo Wop and did the jitterbug.  They are the early baby boomers.  And, if there are villains in this story, it should be those charlatans who brought the trouble to the door.   It is interesting that the means of "controlling actors and musicians" is just starting to surface as a back story.   It is in poor taste, when the crux of the tone of the reunion should be fully positive and demonstrative of survival and growth. 

Even the story after Carl died is so compelling.  Each band had to develop new skill sets, independence of one another and, that, rather than the negative, might have been presented.  Each band mentored and taught young musicians.  And Brian's band guys used technology not even dreamed of in the 1966-1976 era, to recapture the old tracks for the SMiLE project.  The young people taught the guys new ways of looking at music via technology. 

And, I think that is a better story but that might require a little due diligence and research.  People were shocked to see Brian on the road after 1998.  I find that to be a more worthwhile and inspiring story.

The fact that they made good use of their time, and found a way to grow, while not together is as much a reason to celebrate a reunion. 

 
   

 ;D

You might not agree, but all you need to do is go back and read just about any interview or stories about Brian and the Boys', and Brian's troubles are written about in spades. We are sick & tired of it, but I suppose it makes for a good human interest story; relating stories of the troubled genius Beach Boy, in his own words, sometimes.

But they were only shocked because of all of his earlier problems. If you don`t talk about all of his mental problems then there is no story with regard to his live work.

The fact that Brian is still mentally ill means that these questions are relevant anyway.

But the effect lasted a long long time

i don't the acclaim for Revolver either.  I just don't hear it i suppose

And if we are talking about the U.S. versions, which Brian heard back in the day, then Rubber Soul is the much better album, imho.

This is a totally ridiculous comment about the touring bands. Ed Carter, Bobby Figueroa and Billy Hinsche toured more with the Beach Boys than any of these guys on the tour now have with the exception of Foskett. They have also played with the original Beach Boys Carl and Dennis included. I really hate when people praise Love's band and Brian's band as the best. Yes they are great, but I would not say better. And Matt Jardine has a better falsetto than most. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, doesn't always mean it speaks for everyone else's preference.

I agree. It was very good. I wonder though if this is just a first, short version of something larger being done later.

I think one possible issue about the old BBs touring band not being used, besides age and possibly some folks not being up for the rigors of touring, is that the older guys are going off the simpler, more rock-oriented Beach Boys live arrangements from the '70s and '80s whereas the younger cats in Brian's and Mike's bands are more in back-to-the-drawing board, learn it from the original record mode.  It might have been difficult to reconcile the two.  With the older guys, they're used to playing these arrangements a certain way for years and years.  Whereas people like Scott Totten and Darian Sahanaja are esssentially coming from a similar mindset, which is more detail-oriented and faithful to the original recordings.

I don't have any insider knowledge of this at all, I'm speaking purely from a musical perspective.

That makes a lot of sense, Adam.

Ditto times 1,000.

For me, Brian starting up his tour in 1998, ought to be the story of the century.  Aside from the fact that he is a Music Genius Rock God, I find his life story to be VERY inspirational!

 8)

I was at the show at the Wiltern in LA, and I know what I am talking about.  You could sense that the entire audience was uplifted by that man and his music!

Maybe so but directly I would think only Brian's actions of 1972-82 and Dennis' from 1977-83 plus Carl's from 1977-78 hurt the band as a functioning unit. After 1983 there were different things (albiet some an after effect) that drove them apart.

Several Years ago Adam levine from Maroon 5 got in a bit of trouble for talking about Brian, he said "Who cares that he wrote Good Vibrations" ?  Basically talking about how he didn't want to do drugs.


Now, I think a lot of people misinterpreted what he was saying.  He wasn't saying that Brian was a burnout or that he wasn't a legend, he was saying that when people think of Brian, they think of the drugs and mental issues, instead of thinking about how he wrote Good Vibrations. 

So this interview is a good example of that.  Of course the interviewer had to ask at least 1 question like that.  It's what Brian's public persona has become.  Nobody cares that he wrote Good Vibrations.  They want to hear about the voices. 

He never winced when asked about it LIVE on Larry King. But then again, he was sitting next to his wife.