Title: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: Shady on April 12, 2012, 05:39:48 PM Did she get the boot, did she leave, why did she never come back?
I'm pretty curious Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: Runaways on April 12, 2012, 07:33:26 PM She had a nice voice, but I wasnt big on the female addition to the blend
Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: I. Spaceman on April 12, 2012, 08:29:58 PM By all means, it is much better to listen to men trying to sound like women than an actual woman's voice.
I thought it was a brave, honest move to alter the basic sound of the "blend", which to be honest, is dishonest the closer it comes to "incredible simulation" territory of the real Beach Boys sound. That sound, that blend, is gone, over, finito. Don Was's attempt to rearrange and update the Brian Wilson sound for the I Just Wasn't Made For These Times soundtrack wasn't really a success, but I'd rather have a brave failure than the middling, bland vocal success of recent years. But, really, I am a Beach Boys "classic years" fan, not so much of the Wilsonmania years. So what do I know? Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: Jay on April 12, 2012, 08:52:20 PM She posted on her Facebook page a month or two ago that she hopes to be backing touring with Brian again after the Beach Boys reunion tour.
Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: donald on April 12, 2012, 09:09:11 PM I sure missed her, and the band seemed to as well, on the US Gershwin shows last year.
No longer any doubt about her contribution to the sound OR the show. A crucial part of the Brian Wilson Band vocal sound. Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: Lonely Summer on April 12, 2012, 10:20:19 PM By all means, it is much better to listen to men trying to sound like women than an actual woman's voice. I agree with that. I thought it was a brave, honest move to alter the basic sound of the "blend", which to be honest, is dishonest the closer it comes to "incredible simulation" territory of the real Beach Boys sound. That sound, that blend, is gone, over, finito. Don Was's attempt to rearrange and update the Brian Wilson sound for the I Just Wasn't Made For These Times soundtrack wasn't really a success, but I'd rather have a brave failure than the middling, bland vocal success of recent years. But, really, I am a Beach Boys "classic years" fan, not so much of the Wilsonmania years. So what do I know? Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: ivy on April 12, 2012, 10:25:29 PM She posted on her Facebook page a month or two ago that she hopes to be backing touring with Brian again after the Beach Boys reunion tour. So that means Brian is going to get back to touring as a solo act when all of this is said and done? And here I was preparing myself for the end..... yay! Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: Awesoman on April 12, 2012, 10:28:01 PM She posted on her Facebook page a month or two ago that she hopes to be backing touring with Brian again after the Beach Boys reunion tour. So that means Brian is going to get back to touring as a solo act when all of this is said and done? And here I was preparing myself for the end..... yay! Don't know if I would consider that an official confirmation. Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: ivy on April 12, 2012, 10:29:59 PM Don't know if I would consider that an official confirmation. don't blow out my flickering flame of hope. i'll take what i can get ;) Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: Andrew G. Doe on April 12, 2012, 10:33:29 PM What happened ? I'm confident that, along with everything else, the truth about this will emerge from the innermost circle in the fullness of time.
Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: brother john on April 12, 2012, 11:48:25 PM Did she get the boot, did she leave, why did she never come back? Brian got her pregnant and she went off to have the baby in Tallahassee. Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: Exapno Mapcase on April 13, 2012, 12:35:02 AM "So what do I know?"
You on your meds today, Ian? Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: Paulos on April 13, 2012, 03:42:41 AM Apparently Taylor's cochleae exploded after being exposed to Jeff's falsetto one time too many...
Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: Eireannach on April 13, 2012, 07:23:06 AM Apparently Taylor's cochleae exploded after being exposed to Jeff's falsetto one time too many... I knew it. Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: Ron on April 13, 2012, 07:49:31 AM Put me down on the side that loved her. I'm a sucker for beautiful women, especially when they have a nice voice, and a beautiful disposition. I thought she was fantastic.
Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: guitarfool2002 on April 13, 2012, 08:10:21 AM This thread proving once again that it must be beneficial in some official circles to let speculation rule the narrative rather than simply reporting the actual story. Anything surrounding the Beach Boys seems to fall into this trap, and they don't seem to change anything. Witness: Al and Smile, Van Dyke Parks and the Smile Sessions project, Gibson and Fender guitar endorsements on upcoming tours, etc.
I saw one of Brian's first "comeback" shows in the late 90's. Taylor Mills was a highlight that night, both musically and visually: She was as much of a stage presence as anything other than Brian himself, who of course people were there to see no matter who was backing him up. After getting over the fact that the once-improbable sight of Brian playing on stage in the late 90's was actually happening, I have to say that Taylor Mills was definitely a big surprise, and I'm sure a lot of folks who saw her with Brian wanted to learn more about her: And all of that would be a moot point if she didn't add to the sound of the band, which she did. Her voice on the BWPS Smile was also a refreshing addition, and it was great to hear her in the blend. Whatever happened should just be told officially, because honestly the damned rumors and speculations may be more nasty than the actual story. Or perhaps not...let the PR folks decide that. Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: Mikie on April 13, 2012, 08:44:09 AM This thread proving once again that it must be beneficial in some official circles to let speculation rule the narrative rather than simply reporting the actual story. Exactly. Same ol' sh!t, different day, GF. Thanks for telling it like it is. Time for the Bullsh!t Police to move in here. Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: ivy on April 13, 2012, 08:55:26 AM This thread proving once again that it must be beneficial in some official circles to let speculation rule the narrative rather than simply reporting the actual story. Exactly. Same ol' sh!t, different day, GF. Thanks for telling it like it is. Time for the Bullsh!t Police to move in here. Whatever happened should just be told officially, because honestly the damned rumors and speculations may be more nasty than the actual story. Wait what are you guys referring to? All I see in this thread are jokes and discussion of how much people like her in the band. Where are the dirty rumors? Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: Mikie on April 13, 2012, 09:12:59 AM Well.....................the rumor is...................that....................I think I'm in love with you, Ivy.
Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: joshferrell on April 13, 2012, 09:27:37 AM Well.....................the rumor is...................that....................I think I'm in love with you, Ivy. everyones in love with you..Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: Heysaboda on April 13, 2012, 10:10:09 AM Apparently Taylor's cochleae exploded after being exposed to Jeff's falsetto one time too many... "Foskett!" :o Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: I. Spaceman on April 13, 2012, 12:34:09 PM "So what do I know?" You on your meds today, Ian? You sucked your daily quota of c.ock today? Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: Bubba Ho-Tep on April 13, 2012, 01:13:04 PM She had nice hair and I liked to look at her during the shows. Maybe I looked at her too much.
She tore it up on “Marcella” and “Your Imagination” and played some awesome triangle when needed. She got when the getting was good. I wouldn’t have wanted to perform those dull Gershwin and Disney songs neither. Rejoining after the Beach Boys reunion tour? I thought Brian was talking of retirement. And I think he should. At least from the road. There’s nothing more for him to accomplish out there. Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: Lowbacca on April 13, 2012, 01:20:20 PM Somehow I can't imagine Brian hitting the road again in 2013... at least not for another Greatest Hits summer tour. Guess it was just Taylor being nice / wishful thinking on her part when posting it on Facebook.
Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: ivy on April 13, 2012, 01:58:26 PM Well.....................the rumor is...................that....................I think I'm in love with you, Ivy. well i assumed as much but still no rumorz She had nice hair and I liked to look at her during the shows. Maybe I looked at her too much. hahahaha Somehow I can't imagine Brian hitting the road again in 2013... at least not for another Greatest Hits summer tour. Guess it was just Taylor being nice / wishful thinking on her part when posting it on Facebook. /selfishweepy This would be an appropriate note to retire on but just....... wahhh nodon'tsayit'sover Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: SMiLE on April 13, 2012, 05:35:45 PM Whatever happened should just be told officially, because honestly the damned rumors and speculations may be more nasty than the actual story. Or perhaps not...let the PR folks decide that. Was the Hines/Lizik thing ever actually addressed or is that in the speculation realm as well?Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: Wirestone on April 13, 2012, 06:04:27 PM Rejoining after the Beach Boys reunion tour? I thought Brian was talking of retirement. And I think he should. At least from the road. There’s nothing more for him to accomplish out there. Second part might be true. I doubt the first part, though. I wouldn't be surprised by -- 1.) More BB touring / second new album 2.) More BW band touring 3.) Another BW solo album -- In the next two or three years. Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: Shady on April 13, 2012, 06:19:26 PM Well we got nothing here..
Probably better off to be honest... Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: guitarfool2002 on April 14, 2012, 08:36:56 AM She had nice hair and I liked to look at her during the shows. Maybe I looked at her too much. She tore it up on “Marcella” and “Your Imagination” and played some awesome triangle when needed. She got when the getting was good. I wouldn’t have wanted to perform those dull Gershwin and Disney songs neither. Rejoining after the Beach Boys reunion tour? I thought Brian was talking of retirement. And I think he should. At least from the road. There’s nothing more for him to accomplish out there. Yeah, those old timers like Brian should leave the performing on the road to Kanye West and One Direction and the cast of Glee, ya' know Brian just can't compete with the hot dance moves and pre-recorded tracks of today's musical superstars. Should Mike and Bruce retire? How about Al? How about the next time the Who or Stones decide to tour and charge exorbitant ticket prices? How about BB King, he's gettin' too fucking old, all BB does is plays the same blues tunes every show. How many more times can we sit through Mick Jagger singing Start Me Up? Daltrey's "YEEEAAAHHHHHHH!" and mic-swinging schtick is so tired by now, I mean why bother singing Won't Get Fooled Again" after 2012 if they decide to tour? Van Halen reunion tour...who wants to hear Eddie play Eruption or Cathedral again, he does it every show! What more can he accomplish, he should stay the f*** home and donate the guitars to some museum. Or tell it to Lou Reed after that debacle he had going with Metallica...or was that "edgy" because it's Lou Reed? Rant over...adding this for clarity: ;D Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: The Shift on April 14, 2012, 08:45:28 AM Whatever happened should just be told officially, because honestly the damned rumors and speculations may be more nasty than the actual story. Or perhaps not...let the PR folks decide that. Was the Hines/Lizik thing ever actually addressed or is that in the speculation realm as well?Hmm, I'll ask Someone Who Probably Knows… Andrew, was the Hines/Lizik thing ever actually addressed or is that in the speculation realm as well? ;D Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: filledeplage on April 14, 2012, 08:48:01 AM She had nice hair and I liked to look at her during the shows. Maybe I looked at her too much. She tore it up on “Marcella” and “Your Imagination” and played some awesome triangle when needed. She got when the getting was good. I wouldn’t have wanted to perform those dull Gershwin and Disney songs neither. Rejoining after the Beach Boys reunion tour? I thought Brian was talking of retirement. And I think he should. At least from the road. There’s nothing more for him to accomplish out there. [/quote Yeah, those old timers like Brian should leave the performing on the road to Kanye West and One Direction and the cast of Glee, ya' know Brian just can't compete with the hot dance moves and pre-recorded tracks of today's musical superstars. Should Mike and Bruce retire? How about Al? How about the next time the Who or Stones decide to tour and charge exorbitant ticket prices? How about BB King, he's gettin' too f*cking old, all BB does is plays the same blues tunes every show. How many more times can we sit through Mick Jagger singing Start Me Up? Daltrey's "YEEEAAAHHHHHHH!" and mic-swinging schtick is so tired by now, I mean why bother singing Won't Get Fooled Again" after 2012 if they decide to tour? Van Halen reunion tour...who wants to hear Eddie play Eruption or Cathedral again, he does it every show! What more can he accomplish, he should stay the f*ck home and donate the guitars to some museum. Or tell it to Lou Reed after that debacle he had going with Metallica...or was that "edgy" because it's Lou Reed? Rant over...adding this for clarity: ;D Rant on, brother! You nailed it! ;) Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: guitarfool2002 on April 14, 2012, 09:20:20 AM Since Brian has been on the road semi-regularly since 1999 it was odd to see it suggested he had nothing more to accomplish. I'd say he crossed that philosophical bridge a long time ago, the need to accomplish something on tour. What happened to performing for the sake of performing, or just performing for his fans?
Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: guitarfool2002 on April 14, 2012, 09:25:34 AM As far as any backstory or inside scoop on the departures of band members, it happens to almost every performer. Rare is the case that a performer will carry the same lineup of touring musicians for 10+ years, whether they leave for personal reasons, better opportunities, interpersonal squabbles, salary issues, health/family concerns, or just wanting to do something else musically. If there is something more interesting behind these specific musicians mentioned in this thread, it may or may not come out publicly and we'll wait and see what info might come out a few years after the fact, but it's not unusual to have turnover and personnel changes in a backing band, is it?
Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: SMiLE Brian on April 14, 2012, 09:28:23 AM Brian should retire after the BBs tour.
Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: guitarfool2002 on April 14, 2012, 09:36:23 AM Brian should retire after the BBs tour. I'm sure he'll take your opinion under consideration. Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: Lowbacca on April 14, 2012, 09:36:51 AM Brian should retire after the BBs tour. Maybe that's what eventually made him join the BBs fo the reunion. The amount of money he's going to make in 2012 might be enough to leave the road for good. He's never been 100% comfortable on tour (especially the greatest hits summer jobs), and while there where a lot of fine performances and entire tours that really rocked, in the end he did it for the money mostly. He said so in numerous interviews, and oftentimes seemed rather nervous when answering the "Do you (still) like touring?" question. I'd love to know him being busy doin' nothing for the rest of his life (maybe another studio album or two, if he's feeling inspired). Just sitting in front of his living room piano, banging the keys to some odd song he hears in his head, and playing with his kids/dogs. And if Mike, Al & Bruce are in the general area for a gig, pay them a visit. Cause Mike's going to be onstage in a wheelchair. That much we know for sure.Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: guitarfool2002 on April 14, 2012, 09:39:41 AM Brian should retire after the BBs tour. Maybe that's what eventually made him join the BBs fo the reunion. The amount of money he's going to make in 2012 might be enough to leave the road for good. He's never been 100% comfortable on tour (especially the greatest hits summer jobs), and while there where a lot of fine performances and entire tours that really rocked, in the end he did it for the money mostly. He said so in numerous interviews, and oftentimes seemed rather nervous when answering the "Do you (still) like touring?" question. I'd love to know him being busy doin' nothing for the rest of his life (maybe another studio album or two, if he's feeling inspired). Just sitting in front of his living room piano, banging the keys to some odd song he hears in his head, and playing with his kids/dogs. And if Mike, Al & Bruce are in the general area for a gig, pay them a visit. Cause Mike's going to be onstage in a wheelchair. That much we know for sure.Name me an artist on tour who doesn't expect to get paid for performing. And I don't mean carrying an acoustic guitar to a coffee house open-mic night. Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: Lowbacca on April 14, 2012, 09:43:07 AM Brian should retire after the BBs tour. Maybe that's what eventually made him join the BBs fo the reunion. The amount of money he's going to make in 2012 might be enough to leave the road for good. He's never been 100% comfortable on tour (especially the greatest hits summer jobs), and while there where a lot of fine performances and entire tours that really rocked, in the end he did it for the money mostly. He said so in numerous interviews, and oftentimes seemed rather nervous when answering the "Do you (still) like touring?" question. I'd love to know him being busy doin' nothing for the rest of his life (maybe another studio album or two, if he's feeling inspired). Just sitting in front of his living room piano, banging the keys to some odd song he hears in his head, and playing with his kids/dogs. And if Mike, Al & Bruce are in the general area for a gig, pay them a visit. Cause Mike's going to be onstage in a wheelchair. That much we know for sure.Name me an artist on tour who doesn't expect to get paid for performing. And I don't mean carrying an acoustic guitar to a coffee house open-mic night. Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: guitarfool2002 on April 14, 2012, 09:53:00 AM Brian should retire after the BBs tour. Maybe that's what eventually made him join the BBs fo the reunion. The amount of money he's going to make in 2012 might be enough to leave the road for good. He's never been 100% comfortable on tour (especially the greatest hits summer jobs), and while there where a lot of fine performances and entire tours that really rocked, in the end he did it for the money mostly. He said so in numerous interviews, and oftentimes seemed rather nervous when answering the "Do you (still) like touring?" question. I'd love to know him being busy doin' nothing for the rest of his life (maybe another studio album or two, if he's feeling inspired). Just sitting in front of his living room piano, banging the keys to some odd song he hears in his head, and playing with his kids/dogs. And if Mike, Al & Bruce are in the general area for a gig, pay them a visit. Cause Mike's going to be onstage in a wheelchair. That much we know for sure.Name me an artist on tour who doesn't expect to get paid for performing. And I don't mean carrying an acoustic guitar to a coffee house open-mic night. Without actually knowing Brian Wilson or being a part of his life, we as fans assume a lot of things based on isolated interviews, comments, etc. which taken as a whole represent a miniscule part of the man's life. If the statement made in the original post was "he did it for the money mostly", the question again is who doesn't as a matter of practicality? And suggesting that he's *not* enjoying it may be accurate but it brings up the issue of who does enjoy being on the road versus who is doing it strictly for the money? I'd suggest those union musicians who play in pit orchestras on Broadway or in Vegas and play the exact same parts of the exact same arrangements up to three times a day depending on the show's schedule might love being musicians and love playing music as a living but at some points they might get tired of doing it or stop loving the act of doing that exact show, or have a string of bad shows...and if you ask them if they like the road at those times, they might say "No." Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: Lowbacca on April 14, 2012, 09:55:21 AM Brian should retire after the BBs tour. Maybe that's what eventually made him join the BBs fo the reunion. The amount of money he's going to make in 2012 might be enough to leave the road for good. He's never been 100% comfortable on tour (especially the greatest hits summer jobs), and while there where a lot of fine performances and entire tours that really rocked, in the end he did it for the money mostly. He said so in numerous interviews, and oftentimes seemed rather nervous when answering the "Do you (still) like touring?" question. I'd love to know him being busy doin' nothing for the rest of his life (maybe another studio album or two, if he's feeling inspired). Just sitting in front of his living room piano, banging the keys to some odd song he hears in his head, and playing with his kids/dogs. And if Mike, Al & Bruce are in the general area for a gig, pay them a visit. Cause Mike's going to be onstage in a wheelchair. That much we know for sure.Name me an artist on tour who doesn't expect to get paid for performing. And I don't mean carrying an acoustic guitar to a coffee house open-mic night. Without actually knowing Brian Wilson or being a part of his life, we as fans assume a lot of things based on isolated interviews, comments, etc. which taken as a whole represent a miniscule part of the man's life. If the statement made in the original post was "he did it for the money mostly", the question again is who doesn't as a matter of practicality? And suggesting that he's *not* enjoying it may be accurate but it brings up the issue of who does enjoy being on the road versus who is doing it strictly for the money? I'd suggest those union musicians who play in pit orchestras on Broadway or in Vegas and play the exact same parts of the exact same arrangements up to three times a day depending on the show's schedule might love being musicians and love playing music as a living but at some points they might get tired of doing it or stop loving the act of doing that exact show, or have a string of bad shows...and if you ask them if they like the road at those times, they might say "No." Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: Lowbacca on April 14, 2012, 09:55:44 AM By the way: http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,12699.0.html
Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: filledeplage on April 14, 2012, 10:06:56 AM Brian should retire after the BBs tour. Since when has "retirement" not been an entirely "personal" decision? Brian was sort of "retired" for a long period of time. Since his emergence from "retirement" he has been enormously productive. Age, wisdom and experience are assets to be valued and not deficits to be de-valued. The advantage is that they have nothing to prove. Much of their audience is retired and have the time and resources to see the band/s live. And don't care if he or anyone else limps, misses a note, etc. They've pretty much have a commonality of life experiences, and are plenty happy to revisit the music of their generation. Retire to a rocking chair? Brian has young children to keep him thinking young; even if he likes "to sit." ;) And, young, talented musicians eager to be mentored by a True Master. Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: guitarfool2002 on April 14, 2012, 10:08:10 AM Brian should retire after the BBs tour. Maybe that's what eventually made him join the BBs fo the reunion. The amount of money he's going to make in 2012 might be enough to leave the road for good. He's never been 100% comfortable on tour (especially the greatest hits summer jobs), and while there where a lot of fine performances and entire tours that really rocked, in the end he did it for the money mostly. He said so in numerous interviews, and oftentimes seemed rather nervous when answering the "Do you (still) like touring?" question. I'd love to know him being busy doin' nothing for the rest of his life (maybe another studio album or two, if he's feeling inspired). Just sitting in front of his living room piano, banging the keys to some odd song he hears in his head, and playing with his kids/dogs. And if Mike, Al & Bruce are in the general area for a gig, pay them a visit. Cause Mike's going to be onstage in a wheelchair. That much we know for sure.Name me an artist on tour who doesn't expect to get paid for performing. And I don't mean carrying an acoustic guitar to a coffee house open-mic night. Without actually knowing Brian Wilson or being a part of his life, we as fans assume a lot of things based on isolated interviews, comments, etc. which taken as a whole represent a miniscule part of the man's life. If the statement made in the original post was "he did it for the money mostly", the question again is who doesn't as a matter of practicality? And suggesting that he's *not* enjoying it may be accurate but it brings up the issue of who does enjoy being on the road versus who is doing it strictly for the money? I'd suggest those union musicians who play in pit orchestras on Broadway or in Vegas and play the exact same parts of the exact same arrangements up to three times a day depending on the show's schedule might love being musicians and love playing music as a living but at some points they might get tired of doing it or stop loving the act of doing that exact show, or have a string of bad shows...and if you ask them if they like the road at those times, they might say "No." My point is you're assuming what you think is going on in the mind of Brian Wilson is really going on, and that Brian wanting to leave the road and maintain a certain lifestyle is your opinion overriding the fact that the man can make decisions whether to tour or not to tour, based on necessity, contractual requirements, love of playing music, or something else entirely. A few fans saying "Brian should retire" doesn't amount to a hill of beans. A few fans saying "Brian should retire because...(fill in the blank)" doesn't amount to a hill of beans. It's amusing to read folks who have no regular contact whatsoever with this man (and that's everyone except a small handful on this and other BB/BW fan boards) making determinations about what he's thinking or feeling. That's the hard fact of it all - he's a real person and we get to see a tiny, microscopic part of him in the public eye. We just don't know. If he wants to "retire", he'll retire. Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: Lowbacca on April 14, 2012, 10:23:07 AM Dude everything I wrote is about what I imagine might be a good thing for a musician and human being I admire. That's what fans do. That's among the things discussed on a message board. Everything else I introduced with "maybe". I didn't assume anything, I stated a possibility. There's difference.
(It's really hard not to get sarcastic with you.) Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: guitarfool2002 on April 14, 2012, 10:30:48 AM Dude everything I wrote is about what I imagine might be a good thing for a musician and human being I admire. That's what fans do. That's among the things discussed on a message board. Everything else I introduced with "maybe". I didn't assume anything, I stated a possibility. There's difference. (It's really hard not to get sarcastic with you.) Likewise. Putting a picture of Brian sitting on a chair at Dodger Stadium was a nice touch of sarcasm, totally unnecessary unless you wanted to say something without just saying it. And remember that fans have little or no actual knowledge of the people they're fans of, apart from what they see in the media or in performance. Those fans that think they do are fooling themselves. Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: SMiLE Brian on April 14, 2012, 10:38:02 AM Brian should retire after the BBs tour. Since when has "retirement" not been an entirely "personal" decision? Brian was sort of "retired" for a long period of time. Since his emergence from "retirement" he has been enormously productive. Age, wisdom and experience are assets to be valued and not deficits to be de-valued. The advantage is that they have nothing to prove. Much of their audience is retired and have the time and resources to see the band/s live. And don't care if he or anyone else limps, misses a note, etc. They've pretty much have a commonality of life experiences, and are plenty happy to revisit the music of their generation. Retire to a rocking chair? Brian has young children to keep him thinking young; even if he likes "to sit." ;) And, young, talented musicians eager to be mentored by a True Master. Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: Lowbacca on April 14, 2012, 10:41:59 AM Dude everything I wrote is about what I imagine might be a good thing for a musician and human being I admire. That's what fans do. That's among the things discussed on a message board. Everything else I introduced with "maybe". I didn't assume anything, I stated a possibility. There's difference. (It's really hard not to get sarcastic with you.) Likewise. Putting a picture of Brian sitting on a chair at Dodger Stadium was a nice touch of sarcasm, totally unnecessary unless you wanted to say something without just saying it. And remember that fans have little or no actual knowledge of the people they're fans of, apart from what they see in the media or in performance. Those fans that think they do are fooling themselves. Why should I think that I have more knowledge of who Brian really is than anyone else? ???Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: guitarfool2002 on April 14, 2012, 11:01:24 AM Dude everything I wrote is about what I imagine might be a good thing for a musician and human being I admire. That's what fans do. That's among the things discussed on a message board. Everything else I introduced with "maybe". I didn't assume anything, I stated a possibility. There's difference. (It's really hard not to get sarcastic with you.) Likewise. Putting a picture of Brian sitting on a chair at Dodger Stadium was a nice touch of sarcasm, totally unnecessary unless you wanted to say something without just saying it. And remember that fans have little or no actual knowledge of the people they're fans of, apart from what they see in the media or in performance. Those fans that think they do are fooling themselves. Why should I think that I have more knowledge of who Brian really is than anyone else? ???The picture of a tired-looking Brian sitting in the chair is both suggesting something and it's sarcastic to put that in a thread asking if should he retire...why not be suggestive the other way and post a still frame of him standing at the microphone smiling or singing or waving at the fans cheering for him? Or if the photo shows him sitting down looking tired, why even ask the question if the photo attached to it shows that instead of him actually performing or smiling, which he did both on that field a few days ago? If the comment "the reasons are obvious" weren't a part of that opening post on the tired-Brian-in-chair thread, maybe the issue would be different. The bottom line is no one knows the reasons unless they're either Brian or part of his circle of family and friends. Nothing is obvious if the only view we see of a person is the public persona. Title: Re: the argument between lowbacca and guitarfool2002 Post by: bgas on April 14, 2012, 11:23:39 AM Let it GO!
I get SO tired of coming to threads expecting what's titled, only to find it's been derailed by some dunderheads Title: Re: the argument between lowbacca and guitarfool2002 Post by: guitarfool2002 on April 14, 2012, 11:29:30 AM Let it GO! I get SO tired of coming to threads expecting what's titled, only to find it's been derailed by some dunderheads Feel better calling me a dunderhead? That's uncalled for. And not appreciated, pal. Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on April 14, 2012, 11:32:39 AM For f***'s sake people, chill out. This extreme negativity for the past few months needs to stop. WE HAVE A NEW BEACH BOYS ALBUM ON THE VERGE OF COMING OUT, yet all we do now is argue?!
Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: guitarfool2002 on April 14, 2012, 11:36:27 AM For f*ck's sake people, chill out. This extreme negativity for the past few months needs to stop. WE HAVE A NEW BEACH BOYS ALBUM ON THE VERGE OF COMING OUT, yet all we do now is argue?! Yep, that's all I do is argue here, thanks Billy C. Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: Lowbacca on April 14, 2012, 11:47:01 AM We were not arguing, but rather discussing (albeit off-topic). It was a clean thing until a third party criticised said discussion. ;) Plus, I'm done with it now. No need to fortify fronts that do not approach common ground, anyway.
Back to topic, back to Ms. Mills! Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: guitarfool2002 on April 14, 2012, 11:51:07 AM We were not arguing, but rather discussing (albeit off-topic). It was a clean thing until a third party criticised said discussion. ;) Plus, I'm done with it now. No need to fortify fronts that do not approach common ground, anyway. Back to topic, back to Ms. Mills! I'll go back to Ms. Mills any day...common ground like that is a thing of beauty. :) Note we still don't have an answer on that issue of her status in the band. ;D Discussions like this do get heated, they do get crazy, but neither Mr. Lowbacca nor myself resorted to name-calling or personal insults unlike others who could have kept quiet. I have no beef with him, I'll talk Beach Boys anytime with him and if it gets into a debate we'll debate. Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: SBonilla on April 14, 2012, 12:10:24 PM For f*ck's sake people, chill out. This extreme negativity for the past few months needs to stop. WE HAVE A NEW BEACH BOYS ALBUM ON THE VERGE OF COMING OUT, yet all we do now is argue?! For me, it's the malicious, mean-spirited, anti-social behaviour here that makes this board an embarrassing place to visit. I'd like to see more civility displayed around here. Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: Mikie on April 14, 2012, 12:20:52 PM Too many kiddies on the playground here, that's why.
Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on April 14, 2012, 12:25:34 PM For f*ck's sake people, chill out. This extreme negativity for the past few months needs to stop. WE HAVE A NEW BEACH BOYS ALBUM ON THE VERGE OF COMING OUT, yet all we do now is argue?! Yep, that's all I do is argue here, thanks Billy C. I wasn't singling you out; I don't know why you felt that I was saying that all you specifically do is argue. SBonilla got what I meant, and put it better than I did. Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: guitarfool2002 on April 14, 2012, 12:37:13 PM For f*ck's sake people, chill out. This extreme negativity for the past few months needs to stop. WE HAVE A NEW BEACH BOYS ALBUM ON THE VERGE OF COMING OUT, yet all we do now is argue?! Yep, that's all I do is argue here, thanks Billy C. I wasn't singling you out; I don't know why you felt that I was saying that all you specifically do is argue. SBonilla got what I meant, and put it better than I did. Well, if someone says all we do now is argue in the middle of two specific people debating (in a civil way...), it would be an easy misunderstanding :-D. But it's all good, no worries here. Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on April 14, 2012, 12:40:35 PM Meh...I had multiple tabs open from this board, and was shocked and saddened at what the board's turning into. Maybe I posted my response in the wrong thread, though. :lol
This should be inspiring... (http://mmogamerchick.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/cant-we-all-just-get-along.jpg) Let's learn the lesson taught to us by the mighty lion and heroic zebra. Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: guitarfool2002 on April 14, 2012, 12:44:59 PM Meh...I had multiple tabs open from this board, and was shocked and saddened at what the board's turning into. Maybe I posted my response in the wrong thread, though. :lol This should be inspiring... (http://mmogamerchick.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/cant-we-all-just-get-along.jpg) Let's learn the lesson taught to us by the mighty lion and heroic zebra. Billy C, that photo calls for "Born Free" to come blasting out of the speakers. :) Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: SMiLE Brian on April 14, 2012, 01:01:26 PM Meh...I had multiple tabs open from this board, and was shocked and saddened at what the board's turning into. Maybe I posted my response in the wrong thread, though. :lol Tears of Joy :lolThis should be inspiring... (http://mmogamerchick.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/cant-we-all-just-get-along.jpg) Let's learn the lesson taught to us by the mighty lion and heroic zebra. Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: Ron on April 14, 2012, 01:57:44 PM I think the Lion's trying to eat the Zebra, though. So this is kind of passive agressive.
Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: SMiLE on April 14, 2012, 08:00:54 PM For f*ck's sake people, chill out. This extreme negativity for the past few months needs to stop. WE HAVE A NEW BEACH BOYS ALBUM ON THE VERGE OF COMING OUT, yet all we do now is argue?! For me, it's the malicious, mean-spirited, anti-social behaviour here that makes this board an embarrassing place to visit. I'd like to see more civility displayed around here. Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: hypehat on April 14, 2012, 08:03:16 PM I think the Lion's trying to eat the Zebra, though. So this is kind of passive agressive. Nah, they are clearly BROS 4 LYF Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on April 14, 2012, 08:43:31 PM I think the Lion's trying to eat the Zebra, though. So this is kind of passive agressive. Nah, they are clearly BROS 4 LYF :lol It's actually the secret cover of the NEW BEACH BOYS 2012 ALBUM... Pet Sounds 2: Electric Boogaloo Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: Alex on April 14, 2012, 09:20:05 PM Whatever happened should just be told officially, because honestly the damned rumors and speculations may be more nasty than the actual story. Or perhaps not...let the PR folks decide that. Was the Hines/Lizik thing ever actually addressed or is that in the speculation realm as well?Hmm, I'll ask Someone Who Probably Knows… Andrew, was the Hines/Lizik thing ever actually addressed or is that in the speculation realm as well? ;D Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: Andrew G. Doe on April 15, 2012, 12:12:41 AM Whatever happened should just be told officially, because honestly the damned rumors and speculations may be more nasty than the actual story. Or perhaps not...let the PR folks decide that. Was the Hines/Lizik thing ever actually addressed or is that in the speculation realm as well?Hmm, I'll ask Someone Who Probably Knows… Andrew, was the Hines/Lizik thing ever actually addressed or is that in the speculation realm as well? ;D Let's just say, there are those who know the full gen about Jimmy & Bob 'leaving'. Taylor's 'departure' was handled somewhat better. Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: Paulos on April 15, 2012, 02:50:58 AM Meh...I had multiple tabs open from this board, and was shocked and saddened at what the board's turning into. Maybe I posted my response in the wrong thread, though. :lol This should be inspiring... (http://mmogamerchick.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/cant-we-all-just-get-along.jpg) Let's learn the lesson taught to us by the mighty lion and heroic zebra. From the Zebra's perspective: 'Let's be friends, let's be friends, let's be friends' Title: Re: So what actually happened to Taylor Mills Post by: send me a picture and i'll tell you on April 15, 2012, 11:22:10 AM No pics of Taylor in this thread? Come on, help a brother's cochleae explode.
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