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Firstly, the cast-iron certainties:

Good Vibrations
I Get Around
Help Me Rhonda
Kokomo
California Girls
God Only Knows
Wouldn't It Be Nice
Sloop John B
Surfin' USA
Surfer Girl
Little Deuce Coupe
Catch A Wave
Heroes And Villains
Fun, Fun, Fun
Barbara-fucking-Ann
Rock And Roll Music
Do It Again
In My Room
Surfer Girl
Don't Worry, Baby
Darlin'
409
Surfin' Safari
track from the new album - "Radio", probably

Highly likely...
When I Grow Up...
Shut Down
Be True...
Good Timin'
Wild Honey
Sail On, Sailor
I Can Hear Music
Getcha Back
The Little Girl I Once Knew
Let Him Run Wild
Break Away
California Dreamin'

The 'signature' songs:
Disney Girls
Then I Kissed Her
Caroline, No
Why Do Fools Fall In Love
(one for David)

That's 41 without any deep cuts - add two 'tribute' songs and you're up to 43. "Their Hearts..." will be 44. "TWOTS" makes 45.

Any more suggestions ?

Mount Vernon and Fairway?  :hat

Dance Dance Dance
Do You Wanna Dance

I wouldn't file "R&R Music" under "cast-iron certainties". And "California Dreamin'" as highly likely? Have Mike & Bruce been playing this regularly?

There will be more than one song with David on lead (maybe two or three, I hope) in the general repertoire. Mike will be singing lead on most of the faster stuff, obviously, so there might be a few more songs included for Brian to take the lead on (than the ones you have suggested). What comes to mind is stuff like PLMW, ASMTYD or "Marcella".

General additions: "Salt Lake City" and "All Summer Long" - those I think are also highly likely.


Oh, and let's hope that they drop "Kokomo" for a few shows.  :P

There's already a thread about the very same subject:

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,12291.0.html (http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,12291.0.html)


And this was my optimistic (50 songs) setlist:

1.   California Girls
2.   Dance, Dance, Dance
3.   Do You Wanna Dance?
4.   Catch A Wave
5.   Hawaii
6.   Wendy
7.   When I Grow Up (To Be A Man)
8.   Don't Worry Baby
9.   The Warmth Of The Sun
10.   Their Hearts Were Full Of Spring
11.   You're So Good To Me
12.   All Summer Long
13.   Be True To Your School
14.   Surfer Girl
15.   In My Room
16.   Please Let Me Wonder
17.   Then I Kissed Her
18.   Little Honda
19.   Little Deuce Coupe
20.   409
21.   Shut Down
22.   I Get Around
    - INTERMISSION -
23.   Do It Again
24.   Darlin’
25.   I Can Hear Music
26.   Cottonfields
27.   The Little Girl I Once Knew
28.   Sloop John B
29.   Wouldn’t It Be Nice
30.   God Only Knows
31.   Good Vibrations
32.   Heroes & Villains
33.   California
34.   Add Some Music To Your Day
35.   Forever (feat. David Marks)
36.   Disney Girls
37.   All This Is That
38.   Sail On, Sailor
39.   Marcella
40.   That’s Why God Made The Radio
41.   New Song #2
42.   Rock'n'Roll Music
43.   Getcha Back
44.   California Dreamin'
45.   Summer in Paradise
46.   Kokomo
    - ENCORE -
47.   Help Me, Rhonda
48.   Barbara Ann
49.   Surfin' USA
50.   Fun, Fun, Fun

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And my more-realistic 40-songs setlist:


1.   California Girls
2.   Dance, Dance, Dance
3.   Do You Wanna Dance?
4.   Catch A Wave
5.   Hawaii
6.   When I Grow Up (To Be A Man)
7.   Don't Worry Baby
8.   The Warmth Of The Sun
09.   Their Hearts Were Full Of Spring
10.   All Summer Long
11.   Be True To Your School (in US.  "Wendy" or "You're So Good To Me" in Europe)
12.   Surfer Girl
13.   In My Room
14.   Then I Kissed Her
15.   Little Honda
16.   Little Deuce Coupe
17.   409
18.   Shut Down
19.   I Get Around
    - INTERMISSION -
20.   Do It Again
21.   Darlin’
22.   I Can Hear Music
23.   Cottonfields (in Europe only) or  Rock'n'Roll Music (in US) after 33.
24.   The Little Girl I Once Knew
25.   Sloop John B
26.   Wouldn’t It Be Nice
27.   God Only Knows
28.   Good Vibrations
29.   Heroes & Villains
30.   California
31.   Forever (feat. David Marks)
32.   Disney Girls
33.   That’s Why God Made The Radio
34.   Getcha Back
35.   California Dreamin'
36.   Kokomo
    - ENCORE -
37.   Help Me, Rhonda
38.   Barbara Ann
39.   Surfin' USA
40.   Fun, Fun, Fun

What do I care, I won't be there  :-\

 ;D

I would be pretty happy with something similar to that set list, AGD. LET HIM RUN WILD!

Me too!

Also...I've heard rumors (from sources that are somewhat reliable) that Don't Fight The Sea is a contender for the setlist.

They played it when i saw them last July at Epsom Downs, although it was dedicated 'to British weather'

Oh, that corny Beach Boys concert humour.  ;D I hope Mike's having a good day in Berlin in August.

But yeah, I doubt they'll be playing "California Dreamin'". It's not a Beach Boys song (despite the 80's cover version), and this reunion is all about the Beach Boys legacy.

Gimme most of that list, and then make sure to include "Please Let Me Wonder", "This Whole World", and maybe something like "Cool, Cool Water" would be a cool surprise. And maybe to open this second set after an intermission with something like "I Went to Sleep" would be cool to start things slowly before going into a rockin' song.

The setlist ought to be based on the best vocal work that they can do today given their ages and what they have left in the tank with their voices.  I doubt Mike Love is up to singing lead vocal on most songs the way he used to, but Al Jardine can.  Maybe David Marks can contribute some too. 

They've played it every time I've seen them since about 2003, and that includes in the States.

I'm not even going to include hits because it's obvious that's what 95% of the set will be.

It's OK
You Need A Mess Of Help To Stand Alone
Busy Doin' Nothin'
Johnny Carson
Ding Dang 20 minute extended jam
The Night Was So Young
I Know There's An Answer (Hang On To Your Ego would be better tho)
Gettin' Hungry
This Whole World
All I Wanna Do
CHUG-A-LUG
Wonderful
Surf's Up
She Knows Me Too Well
Country Air
Here Comes The Night (disco version)

If I get a chance to meet the band before a show I'm going to beg them for some Love You material.

One should hope they'll mix it up a bit , then, and leave it at home. personally I don't care a bit, as they're not playing here, but for the unlucky souls who will otherwiset have to sit thru a standard BBs set, I hope they'll play at least 6 songs from their "new" release.( probably just going to be TWGMTR, DIA, and 8 or 9 other reworked older songs)  

Sure Mike's up to singing lead vocal on most songs he used to.  ??? See recent Mike&Bruce shows. Al will sing lead on the signature Al Jardine songs: "Rhonda", "Then I Kissed Her", "Sloop John B." (maybe shared lead vocal with Brian), perhaps "Cotton Fields" etc.

Would like Wonderful, Surfs Up or just to spite Mike, Cabin Essence.

Same here.

Unlucky? Heh.

You know, Mike should do Cabin Essence to spite us!

Of all the songs, this could be the one that would light up this and other boards.

(in case the powers that be are reading ;))

I still think my original guess is going to be pretty close:

Repeating my earlier guess:

California Girls
Sloop John B
Do It Again
Break Away
Come Go With Me
In My Room
Little Deuce Coupe
God Only Knows *
I Can Hear Music (Jeff) *
Do You Wanna Dance (Bruce) *
Forever (David) *
Heroes And Villains
Wouldn't It Be Nice (Jeff?)
Disney Girls
Sail On Sailor (David)
Rock And Roll Music
Cotton Fields
I Get Around
Don't Worry Baby (Jeff)
Darlin'
Surfer Girl
Help Me Rhonda
Kokomo
Surfin' USA
Their Hearts Were Full Of Spring (or Graduation Day, or Our Prayer, etc.)
Good Vibrations
Barbara Ann
Fun, Fun, fun

...Along with a small number of new songs (including the new single, obviously) to plug the new album.

* "Tribute" portion of the show

And as evidence seems to point in that direction, probably TLGIOK & TWOTS.
I also think "Surf's Up" could be possible too.  Wouldn't it be...great to see all five guys doing the different parts in the tag?!

Would love to see Brian leads on PLMW and Caroline No! Gotta toss Bruce a few Disney Girls and DWD maybe Wendy. I would say David gets 1 lead.  I hope Al gets a fair share of leads here as his voice is the best.  Rhonda, Then I Kissed Her, Honkin , Cal Saga maybe? You're  So Good To Me, Sloop, Heroes shared with Brian.
I'm REALLY hoping they can Why Do Fools Fall in Love?? REALLY hoping! Randall Kirsch sings it and he's likely not in the reunion band so maybe we can lose it.
Not sure about Wild Honey ( who would sing it?) or Getcha Back. Mike hasn't sung that live in years so who would sing that?

I don't care how many hits they play... JUST PLAY SURFS UP. PLEASE.

Not gonna happen. Save yourself the wishing on this one.

Here's the setlist I hope they will take:


1. Do It Again
 2. Keepin' The Summer Alive
 3. Rock 'n' Roll To The Rescue with short Concert Tonight outro
 4. I'm Waiting For The Day
 5. The Little Girl I Once Knew
 6. Caroline No
 7. Surfer Girl
 8. Day In The Life Of A Tree/Til I Die
 9. Vega-Tables
 10. You Need A Mess Of Help
 11. Susi Cincinnati
 12. Can't Wait Too Long
 13. Still I Dream Of It
 14. Wake The World
 15. Aren't You Glad
 16. Wild Honey
 17. Meant For You / Forever
 18. Let The Wind Blow
 19. Sail Plane Song / Loop De Loop
 20. Darlin'
 21. Surf City
 22. Mrs. O'Leary's Cow

Intermission

 23. Let Us Go On This Way
 24. Santa Ana Winds
 25. Soulful Old Man Sunshine
 26. It's Over Now
 27. Back Home
 28. Little Deuce Coupe
 29. 409
 30. Fun, Fun, Fun
 31. Time To Get Alone
 32. Cotton Fields
 33. I Can Hear Music
 34. Break Away
 35. Steamboat
 36. Please Let Me Wonder
 37. Dance, Dance, Dance
 38. Kokomo
 39. Male Ego
 40. What Is A Young Girl Made Of?
 41. Lonely Sea
 42. Don't Worry Baby
 43. Be True To Your Shool
 44. Good Vibrations

Encore 1:

 45. All Summer Long
 46. Help Me Rhonda
 47. You're So Good To Me
 48. Wind Chimes
 49. Wonderful

Encore 2:

 50. Love and Mercy


and then they play the whole thing again.

YES! That's my favorite band.

I think Warmth of the Sun is a "cast-iron certainty".

I think so too.
Like "God Made The Radio" it has a Mafia-connection. It was written the day JFK was killed. So the BB were already in touch with the Mafia in 1963.
Another song they'll perform for sure is "Good Vibrations", can't wait to see both Mike & Brian doing their hand choreographies during the chorus.
As mentioned before, "California Saga Pt. 3", what else?
"Do It Again", "Barbara Ann"

Wouldn't make it to the end of the 24th.  ;D

I thought you said you got tickets? That sucks, mate

My fantasy setlist.

Our Prayer/Gee
Heroes and Villains
I Get Around
Help Me Rhonda
Little Honda
This Whole World
Add Some Music to Your Day
In My Room
Kiss Me Baby
Please Let Me Wonder
Don't Worry Baby
California Girls
Darlin'
When I Grow Up (To Be a Man)
Surfer Girl
Wild Honey
Do You Wanna Dance?
Sloop John B
Wouldn't It Be Nice
God Only Knows
The Night Was So Young
All Summer Long
You're So Good to Me
Marcella
Sail On Sailor
'Til I Die
Wonderful
Surf's Up
Time to Get Alone
All I Wanna Do
Let Him Run Wild
The Little Girl I Once Knew
Caroline, No
Forever
Good Timin'
Cool, Cool Water
Break Away
Wendy
Graduation Day
Cotton Fields
Good Vibrations
Do It Again

Encore 1:
Dance, Dance, Dance
Surfin' USA
Fun, Fun, Fun
Barbara Ann

Encore 2 (Brian solo):
Love and Mercy

i'd rather hear a 10 minute barbara ann jam than hear them play rock n roll music. ditto for california dreaming.

Why do people think that they would end the show with Love & Mercy? That is a Brian solo signature song, if there ever was one, with which he has ended most of his solo shows for a decade! There is no way that will happen. There's no need for it to happen either.

Agreed, don't get this fascination with seeing L&m at a BBs show.

i don't get where mike got the thought that "fun fun fun" is a good ending track.  it's a great first song!

Mike?
How 'bout Carl?
He led the band for a couple decades with that as an encore. I think the tag lending itself to endless repeat made sense as a concert ending.

I agree it would be a kick-ass way to start a show. However, they've usually favored medium tempo songs as starters.

1. Surfers Rule
2. Our Favorite Recording Sessions
3. Papa-Oom-Mow-Mow
4. Long Tall Texan
5. When Girls Get Together
6. Car Crazy Cutie
7. Brian's Back
8. "Cassius" Love vs. "Sonny" Wilson
9. Tune X
10. 20 minutes of Denny's Drums
[intermission]
11. In My Car
12. The Rocking Surfer
13. Ten Little Indians
14. The Baker Man
15. A Casual Look / TM Song
16. All I Want To Do
17. Okie from Muskogie
18. Wontcha Come Out Tonight?
19. Pitter Patter
20. 45 minutes of Shortenin' Bread

I think the main factors in actually guessing an accurate setlist (as opposed to just naming our own personal favorite songs) would be:

1.   The Obvious Hits – This will account for the majority of the setlist

2.   Recent “Non-Regulars” that Brian and Mike (and Al) have performed in the last few years – This would be stuff that we didn’t necessarily hear commonly at a BB show in, say, the 90’s, but aren’t necessarily totally out of left field, stuff like “When I Grow Up”, “Good Timin’”, “The Little Girl I Once Knew”, etc.

3.   Lead Vocal Features – Songs included more to feature specific lead vocalists. For Bruce, the obvious guess would be “Disney Girls.”

I would imagine there will be something that seems an obvious choice that they will leave out, and probably at least something that seems slightly surprising as a pick. I could picture them doing “Add Some Music To Your Day” since it’s a good pick for multiple lead vocalists, and Brian has done in solo. Same could go for something like “Forever” as a Dennis tribute perhaps. Maybe “Good Timin’” for Carl.

I would guess the setlist will skew more towards Brian’s setlists since it’s largely his band performing. While Mike would likely insist on doing “Kokomo”, I wouldn’t be surprised if they drop stuff like “Rock and Roll Music” and maybe even “Be True to Your School.” That’s my wishful thinking anyway.

I would hope they would dispense with most of the covers. Maybe “Then I Kissed Her” since it’s a good Al vocal. But I could do without “Rock and Roll Music”, “Come Go With Me”, “Do You Wanna Dance”, and certainly covers that weren’t ever even on BB albums, like “The Little Old Lady from Pasadena” or “Surf City.”

Another random thought: I think we’re less likely to get songs in the setlist that Carl sang that Brian has never done on solo tours. I don’t think they’re going to be handing lead vocals to non-BB’s (other than partial lead vocals for falsetto parts, like “When I Grow Up”), so stuff like “I Can Hear Music” or “Wild Honey” seems less likely for this reason.

I'm gonna say mike since he just said it lol

No way. We need more ammo for The Best Of Mike Love, part 2.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2qE61E0i7s

 :lol

There's not enough Mike Love leads in most of these set lists. We're just gonna need to hope for some more obscure songs with Love on the lead IMO! Because he'll want to sing a lot of leads I bet.

p.s. I just said "lead(s)" a lot.

I'm going to guess that they will do Keep an Eye on Summer!

Probably not. :-D
Another great idea comes to mind: Why not performing the complete discography in a marathon concert? That would please everybody and would get them in the Guinness Book of World Records.

Honestly, I don't care that much about what they play, it's great enough that they do a tour together.

I really hope the setlist isn't too Mike centric.....that is one of the major causes of the decline in the BB live act in the 90's. I know Mike will probably get more leads than the other because he sang more but I do hope it's balanced and not the 25 Mike, 3 Al, 2 Carl specials they were pulling by 95.

I would hope for them to perform "Surfs Up" although it's probably not going to happen, maybe on a UK tour. (Which we KNOW they're going to get round to eventually) ;D

Lol I hate that the band refuses to acknowledge that Surfs Up is the reason they had a "rebirth" in the 70's

Come on guys, swollow the bad vibrations and play the damn song.

IMO "Surf's Up" is not only their greatest song, but the best rock era song period.

It is a shame that it has not been performed by the group snce 1972.

It is a shame that 85% of the people who will attend the shows are probably unaware of the song's existence.  Kind of like a Beatle's fan being unaware of "A Day in the Life" or a Springsteen fan being unaware of "New York Seranade" or a Colts fan being unaware of Johnny U.

In an alternate universe Mike Love's RRHOF speech goes something like this - "I know we have not always gotten along but we here we are so all you other people getting inducted can f*** off becasue we did "Surf's Up" and you didn't and even if you wanted to you couldn't unless you could raise Mozart and Bach and bring them into your group."  Then, when the furor dies down , bob Dylan shrugs his shoulders and says - "he might be a grade a ahole, but he's right.

Suggest you check that assumption.  :)

I'm not getting my hopes up, but if they perform "Kiss Me, Baby" this will be me in the front row:

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I think "All I Wanna Do" would be a really nice example of a good obscure song that Mike could still do leads on. Man, I would love that.

I do agree that we're probably less likely to get songs that had a signature vocal from Carl/Dennis. I don't think they'd give the lead to a BB band member who isn't a real Beach Boy, but maybe Brian or David or one of them could do it?

I really want to hear Bruce do Disney Girls. I'm hoping for a variety either way. David said it'll be the hits, and by that I hope he means the biggest ones and not ALL of the hits. Though, they could play Summer In Paradise in its entirety and leave town and I would still be happy I got to see them play together with my own two eyes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d46sWCdmees  :) :ohyeah

Kiss Me Baby is definitely among there best, also Community is probably the best show on TV. (Since Arrested Development) 8)

Another thing to keep in mind concerning the setlist is that, if the report that rehearsals start on the 15th is correct, then that is not a huge amount of rehearsal time to learn a lot of non “meat and potatoes” songs. Granted, Brian’s band can pick up anything pretty quickly most likely, and the actual BB’s mainly need to rehearse the vocals. Perhaps the backing band will be rehearsing before the BB’s get there (some bands have done this, such as Paul McCartney’s band), and I can only imagine the BB’s have started to formulate a basis for a setlist prior to the actual rehearsals starting. But I don’t see a hugely expansive setlist outside of the norm forming with only about nine days of rehearsals at the most.

It’ll be interesting!

Brian's band hasn't rehearsed for years. True fact.

Nine days will be more than enough time.

They won't need that much in the way of rehearsals -- both bands know all the core songs and have been playing them regularly. There's also a second group of songs that both bands have played, albeit not necessarily as regularly -- stuff like Til I Die, Here Today, You Still Believe In Me, Forever, Good Timin', Heroes & Villains.

If everyone knows the material, nine days will be more than ample. As a comparison (and I know people got annoyed when I brought them up before, but...)  last year's Monkees tour was organised very much on the same lines -- a band that hadn't performed together in ten years, with a large backing band consisting of almost every member of one of the solo bands (Davy Jones'), plus token members from the other members' bands (I think Micky Dolenz's guitarist and a sax player from Peter Tork's band, something like that anyway). They did a forty-song set including a *lot* of rarities and a performance of the whole Head album, with costume changes and dance routines, keyed to video footage, and they had only *three* days' rehearsal.

Given that we're not expecting this to be a great multimedia spectacular, that the musicians in the band are far superior to the Monkees' musicians, and that you could easily name a 25- or 30-song set that this band could go out and do *right now*, with no rehearsal at all, and do a competent-to-very-good job on, if we don't get at least ten or so decent rarities it'll only be because the Beach Boys themselves can't be bothered, or they think the audience don't want them, not because of lack of rehearsal.

Other than the nine days to rehearse, you would also think that they could pick up a few things while on tour (which is good practice in itself). Also, the bands are probably well versed in the majority of the catalogue, including deeper cuts, I would think. They could learn additional stuff on the road maybe.

I hope they'll sing Still Cruisin' and Summer In Paradise! :)

I actually think this is a good idea. R&R to the Rescue, too. And R&R music, so Brian can do the "Rock, roll, rockin' and rollin'" backing vocals ....

Yeah that would sound great, Brian has the perfect voice for them. :D Belting them out haha :D

Brian's Facebook posted lyrics to busy doing nothin, one can dream.

From BBB:

"There is one song that I know of going on the set list that has a couple of small sections sung in spanish (but it's not "Kokomo")...

Bruce Johnston
Tucson, Airzona
April 23, 2012"

Hmm. Which song is it?

I Just Wasn't Made For These Times?!?!?!?!?

http://6.hidemyass.com/ip-1/encoded/Oi8vd3d3LnlvdXR1YmUuY29tL3dhdGNoP3Y9a0cxZm8wT25oczA%3D&f=norefer

 :-D

Niiiiice. Good call. Gotta be IJWMFTT.


HAHA oh this is definitely in the set, man. Right after they play Al's "A Postcard From California" album in it's entirety.

I would Love I Just Wasnt Made For These Times....Brian and Al were PHENOMENAL on the tag during the 06-07 Pet Sounds tour. Would love to see that reprised.

I hope they Do do "Cabinessence".  I think there's a high, high chance they may.  If anybody can get it through to Mike how fucking awesome it would be to hear him do that on stage, I think he'd do it.  Hell he did it the first time.  I think Brian/Bruce/Al would definately be down for it. 

Personally, I'm not a huge fan of the song, it's kind of one of those that after you've heard it a few times and experienced it, you don't really need to hear it again because it's not really 'fun' or anything, it's just a musical feat.  It would be amazing to see Mike sing on it, though. 

Who thinks they'll have the balls to do something crazy like Student Demonstration Time?

I'm feeling positive. Brian's page has suggested "Busy Doin' Nothing." Bruce has suggested IJWMFTT. Al has said Brian is into "Graduation Day" and "Cottonfields."

If we get a show with even some stuff like this in it, I'll be happy.

I"m glad to see you getting some optimism about this, Wirestone. 

I thought it'd be cool if Mike pulled this out especially in Chicago when originally the city was scheduled to host both the G8 and the NATO summits this May.  There were groups threatening to shut the city down and riot throughout the entire week of the meetings.  No doubt it'd be "best to stay outtasite."

I'm gonna be really pissed if they don't do Bah-Bah-Bah, Bah-Bopper Ann.