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I'm sure this has been discussed at some point somewhere on this board, but what are people's opinions on it?

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TBH, I dont really like MJ, he had a few great tracks but all the MJmania/hysteria displayed after his death was pretty sad really (does a mentally unstable pedophile deserve all that praise? he hadnt been seen in public for like 15 yrs anyway - anyway I feel sorry for him too. he had a tough childhood)

I felt the song and most of its cast were sub-par. Justin Bieber and Hannah Montana are simply not the right people to record a song with a message.
What was the reason for Brian and Al being in it? I suppose they wanted to lend support, but they are the only white people there really. All the rest are 'contemporary RnB' trash artists and gangsta rap / hip hop artists (they even have a weird rap segment in the song)

Lastly I dont believe in the concept that if you watch a film on youtube you save the world (example: Kony 2012), but as Mike Love put it 'well I guess I'm just a sentimental sap'....

so thoughtful, insightful, original. A++. people like u make the innerwebz gr8

I don't even know where to begin. Why bring up Michael Jackson's personal life when talking about his music? Lots of artists are mentally unstable, for one. Why would you even mention mental instability like it's a bad thing on a website devoted to Brian fuckin' Wilson? Being a pedophile has nothing to do with the music Michael Jackson wrote, and he was never convicted of anything.

Now, what is your issue with having two young singers that MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of children look up to singing a song with a "message"?  ::) Do small children not deserve to be taught empathy and compassion for your fellow man? Oh, I don't even need to answer that, do I?

And it continues to get more pathetic when you have to bring race into it. Music transcends race and ethnicity. The message of the song doesn't change with the person's skin color.

You're right though, you aren't going to save the world watching a video. But that wasn't the point of that, or the Kony video, but that obviously went right over your head like so many other things. The Kony 2012 video was made to raise awareness about a situation that most people knew nothing about. And it did a damn good job of doing what it was intended for.

You should take a long, hard look at yourself and change the way you feel, because you seem like a hateful young man.

Agreed, especially on this little nugget


Who the hell in 2012 (save maybe Rick Santorum)  gives a flying sh*t what race they are?!

Enough with the race stuff this week.... ::)

Amen.

Seriously, there are some seriously bad vibes on the board right now.

Oops! You're racist.

Possibly the dumbest,contradictary and ill informed post ever.Wanker!

The moral: White people should not help black people. It's black people's job to do all the work for white people.

Not to get political, but I totally agree with this. Can't believe this joker is from my home state. And I'm sure a lot of people on both sides of the isle would agree!

Hehe I'm not hateful, I simply find it contradictional that one would celebrate an artist who writes songs about saving the world whilst living in a huge mansion/estate/disneyworld/zoo where he had some serious problems with his relationship with kids. BW was not damaged in that way, he simply had too many drugs and black dogs come over him.

The reason I brought up this song is that I feel its wrong for celebrities to remake a care song when they are the richest people in modern society. I feel they are a bit like "Hey if I make this film where I express my sorrow all will be kay, right?". I feel it is a minor contribution for people who live in such extreme wealth, I much preferred the alternative clip of normal people sending in segments (cant find clip because of bad internet...  :-\)

Point is, ordinary people convey the message more than Justin Bieber & CO. I'm not alone in this, many music critics have pointed it out and I'm not hateful. And who cares if 10-16 yr old kids know about Haiti or not? they cant do anything about it anyway. wrong target group. the same target group which endorsed Kony2012, it doesnt matter if kids know about Kony, only voters and responsible people in government can do something about it.

ATTENTION!

I did  NOT wish for it to be the talk of racism, I am not racist and I have many multi-ethnic friends. My phrasing was very bad and I apologize for it!

My point was there were only Contemporary RnB/ Hip Hop stars - who happen to be mostly black  + some kids from Disney channel who were there, where are all the other mainstream rock/pop artists. It was an MJ song, and I know RnB/Hip Hop is mostly descended (they claim) from MJ so there is supposedly a musical bond or whatever. And therefore the main musicians of other genres (who happen to be mostly non-black) have no connection or affection for MJ decided to not do it.

I simply pointed out that Brian and Al were the only ones who 'broke' the trend. It was very nice of them but seemed a bit out of place!
No offence to anyone. Not the intention.

Peace&Love to all  ;D

Not really, all info was legit, there are no contradictions, maybe dumb - but ill suffer that.
Thanks for offending me, and making yourself appear worse than me by throwing an unwarrented vulgar comment at me.
Peace&Love  ;D

Contemporary rap music and R&B IS pop music today, in case you haven't noticed.

Also, people don't listen to ordinary people. It's debatable if they even listen to pop stars. But why would you criticise millionaires for trying to help the less fortunate? If anything, they should be doing more. I disagree with Bono's methods (and Bono himself), but you can't fault the principle!

That I agree with, they should be doing more, not making bland remakes of old crappy songs (I think the song is pretty crappy)

Should they not give money or agree to each contributing to a compilation album? that would give some real income for charity.
 I am for that they want to share awareness, but that song is just to tacky and over-saccharine. And its not a great effort, it's just one meager song. Just enough to keep their conscience clear and then they can all go back to enjoying their absurd wealth.

Apart from that nonsense about race and R&B, Cabinessenceking has a point which is that these videos can work more to perpetuate the problem rather help solve it, mostly because it doesn't convey what the actual problem really is. I don't come away really knowing anything about Haiti. We certainly don't understand why we only started really caring about Haiti after climate disasters there even though they were the poorest country in the hemisphere by the end of the 20th century. These kinds of thing do very much conceal what's going on rather than reveal it. While I do think it is crucial for communication (and acknowledge that, at the moment, the only people who have real access to mainstream communication, are the wealthy), I don't think this is really the right kind of communication. Same goes for the Kony video, incidentally, which was really not about raising awareness of a horrific criminal but an attempt to instigate Western military intervention and control of the region.

I remember Tony Bennett being there. I think he is neither black or a Hip Hop artist.

This is really just so lulzy I do not even know where to begin. Michael Jackson is in the Guiness Book of World Records for being the celebrity who has funded the most charities. But living in a big house makes him a hypocrite?

I'm not going to even get into the kids thing because I know for certain that you are just talking out of your ass and have no reason to believe he was a pedophile beyond just automatically believing what was splashed across the tabloids.

BUT YEAH TOTALLY BRIAN'S MENTAL ISSUES WERE WAY COOLER THAN MICHAEL'S.



Again, lol. It was not an "MJ song." Bob Geldof (a white guy) and Harry Belafonte (a black guy) asked Lionel Richie (a black guy) and Kenny Rogers (a white guy) to spearhead the project. Richie then went to Michael Jackson to get him in on the project, because his star power had the most cachet back then (much like Bieber et al today). Richie and Jackson wrote the song together. It was originally performed by a very racially diverse group, including Bob Dylan, Willie Nelson, Bruce Springsteen, etc.

Before you say things that are dumb and racist, please read other things that are less so.

What the..how the hell is an earthquake a 'climate disaster'?! You are right about the video though, it didn't convey what the problem was and what needed to be done to help the Haitians.

You're right - this was about the earthquake and not the devastating tropical storms that hit the country two years earlier. I was confused about what nightmarish situation in Haiti this was about, since there have been unfortunately so many there.

Not everyone.  I like Rick.  Solid morals, solid ethics and strives for fairness.  I'm a fellow Pennsylvanian.   Hoping all have a happy easter weekend!

Sanatorium become quite wealthy, I mean, VERY wealthy after his brief Senate career, peddling his influence to the higherst bidder.  That's blue collar ethics for ya.

I'm no fan or supporter of Rick Santorum but can we all just agree to not discuss politics on a fucking Beach Boys messageboard? No one is going to change anyone's mind and no good will come out of it.

Agreed. Lolitics has no place in music discussion.

Sorry if it came off that way. I didn't mean it to sound like I was speaking for everyone. Just thought it was interesting that it was brought up, I'm a political science major, so I get suckered into those discussions easily. Haha. No offense meant!

And I share in the Easter wishes for everyone!

Love that term! And I agree! Not that its a popular example to use here either, but I'm a big Kanye West fan and have never held his political stances against the merits I personally hear in his music.

I as well am a fan of Kanye...nice to know I'm not the only one here!

Also...I apologize for bringing up politics...will try not to do it again :)

OK, I moved this to the Sandbox; not on-topic at all.


@ runnersdialzero : when you type down something like this, be sure to add a smiley to emphasize that you're being sarcastic or funny. This way, it's only insulting.

FAIRNESS?! You have GOT to be kidding me. Fairness and equality for the rich and white, I suppose?