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Title: "Roots Of The Beach Boys" new CD Post by: The Shift on March 12, 2012, 09:08:03 AM Due for release April 30 (info from Amazon UK):
The Roots Of The Beach Boys Various Artists Label: Complete Blues 1. Chuck Berry - Sweet Little Sixteen 2. Richard Berry - Louie Louie 3. Bobby Freeman - Do You Wanna Dance 4. The Gamblers - Moon Dawg 5. The Hollywood Argyles - Hully Gully 6. The Robins - Riot In Cell Block Number 9 7. The Teddy Bears - To Know Him Is To Love Him 8. The Four Freshmen - Graduation Day 9. The Hi-Lo’s - I Don’t Want To Cry Anymore 10. Otis Williams & The Charms - Hearts Of Stone 11. Eddie Cochran - Summertime Blues 12. The Everly Brothers - Devoted To You 13. Ritchie Valens - Bluebirds Over The Mountain 14. The Mystics - Hushabye 15. The Students - I’m So Young 16. Billy Ward & His Dominoes - Deep Purple 17. Harold Dorman - Mountain Of Love 18. Eddie Fisher 19. George Gershwin - Summertime 20. Paul Anka - Put Your Head On My Shoulder 21. Jo Stafford - The Things We Did Last Summer 22. The Five Satins - In The Still Of The Night 23. The Drifters - Ruby Baby 24. The Six Teens - A Casual Look 25. Fats Domino - Blueberry Hill 26. Leadbelly - Cotton Fields 27. The Kingston Trio - (The Wreck Of The) ‘John B’ No further info on track 18… curious! Title: Re: \ Post by: SMiLE Brian on March 12, 2012, 09:12:20 AM Eddie Fisher- cindy oh cindy.
Title: Re: \ Post by: Chocolate Shake Man on March 12, 2012, 09:15:38 AM Is Put Your Head On My Shoulder only on there because of Don't Talk Put Your Head on my Shoulder?
Title: Re: \ Post by: Lowbacca on March 12, 2012, 09:22:55 AM I'm missing some more early (instrumental) surf rock there... also, some of those tracks aren't really roots just because the Beach Boys covered them... But apart from that: nice collection.
Title: Re: \ Post by: Andrew G. Doe on March 12, 2012, 09:25:40 AM More of a 'songs the BB covered' comp if you ask me - a pukka 'roots' album would include "Jennie Lee" by Jan & Dean, "Underwater" by the Frogmen", "When You Wish Upon A Star" by Ukulele Ike, "Stranded In the Jungle" by The Cadets and of course, "Shortenin' Bread" by, oh, anyone.
Oh, and the obvious one is missing. Title: Re: \ Post by: SBonilla on March 12, 2012, 09:28:12 AM Is Put Your Head On My Shoulder only on there because of Don't Talk Put Your Head on my Shoulder? Lately I've been thinking: SINCE I FELL FOR YOU/Lennie Welch (melody) + PUPPY LOVE/Paul Anka (drama effect,vocal approach) = IN THE BACK OF MY MIND. Title: Re: \ Post by: SBonilla on March 12, 2012, 09:29:49 AM More of a 'songs the BB covered' comp if you ask me - a pukka 'roots' album would include "Jennie Lee" by Jan & Dean, "Underwater" by the Frogmen", "When You Wish Upon A Star" by Ukulele Ike, "Stranded In the Jungle" by The Cadets and of course, "Shortenin' Bread" by, oh, anyone. Oh, and the obvious one is missing. Fanny Mae by Buster Brown Title: Re: \ Post by: Andrew G. Doe on March 12, 2012, 09:31:29 AM More of a 'songs the BB covered' comp if you ask me - a pukka 'roots' album would include "Jennie Lee" by Jan & Dean, "Underwater" by the Frogmen", "When You Wish Upon A Star" by Ukulele Ike, "Stranded In the Jungle" by The Cadets and of course, "Shortenin' Bread" by, oh, anyone. Oh, and the obvious one is missing. Fanny Mae by Buster Brown That too, but I'm talking the screamingly obvious one. Title: Re: \ Post by: SBonilla on March 12, 2012, 09:35:59 AM More of a 'songs the BB covered' comp if you ask me - a pukka 'roots' album would include "Jennie Lee" by Jan & Dean, "Underwater" by the Frogmen", "When You Wish Upon A Star" by Ukulele Ike, "Stranded In the Jungle" by The Cadets and of course, "Shortenin' Bread" by, oh, anyone. Oh, and the obvious one is missing. Fanny Mae by Buster Brown That too, but I'm talking the screamingly obvious one. Title: Re: \ Post by: Chocolate Shake Man on March 12, 2012, 09:36:26 AM Barbara Ann
Title: Re: \ Post by: Jim V. on March 12, 2012, 09:39:31 AM Be My Baby anyone??
Title: Re: \ Post by: Paulos on March 12, 2012, 09:39:42 AM More of a 'songs the BB covered' comp if you ask me - a pukka 'roots' album would include "Jennie Lee" by Jan & Dean, "Underwater" by the Frogmen", "When You Wish Upon A Star" by Ukulele Ike, "Stranded In the Jungle" by The Cadets and of course, "Shortenin' Bread" by, oh, anyone. Oh, and the obvious one is missing. Fanny Mae by Buster Brown That too, but I'm talking the screamingly obvious one. Their Hearts Were Full Of Spring? There are lots of these 'The Roots Of...' compilations - Elvis, Dylan, Stones, Beatles, no idea if they all follow a similar format. Title: Re: \ Post by: PongHit on March 12, 2012, 09:40:06 AM Oh, and the obvious one is missing. "Be My Baby" probably cost too much. Title: Re: \ Post by: SBonilla on March 12, 2012, 09:42:15 AM Oh, and the obvious one is missing. "Be My Baby" probably cost too much. How could we forget that one? Title: Re: \ Post by: guitarfool2002 on March 12, 2012, 09:49:26 AM Maybe they couldn't get the rights to include some of those obvious ones, or it cost too much to use them? Of course obvious ones to fans would be "Underwater" "Barbara Ann" and the like, and obvious ones to Smile fans would be "Gee", "Work With Me, Annie", and "The Old Master Painter"...but that stuff might be too obscure...although who would actually buy this compilation besides more devoted fans who could connect the BB's to these songs?
I have to question some of the versions of these songs - often when a more obscure version is included it means that record was cheaper to use than a more familiar recording. Like "Bluebirds Over The Mountain", I'd think the Ersel Hickey original might be the first choice for a set like this since it was technically a "hit". Unless one of the Wilsons specifically mentioned Valens' version. And how about DION doing Ruby Baby??? THAT was the version that the BB's vocals seemed to be copying more on the Party version than the Drifters, at least to my ears...again I'll stand corrected if one of the band members has cited the Drifters' take over the more familiar Dion version, but I doubt it... Title: Re: \ Post by: joshferrell on March 12, 2012, 09:51:27 AM "when you wish upon a star"
Title: Re: \ Post by: Lowbacca on March 12, 2012, 09:57:41 AM Maybe they couldn't get the rights to include some of those obvious ones, or it cost too much to use them? Of course obvious ones to fans would be "Underwater" "Barbara Ann" and the like, and obvious ones to Smile fans would be "Gee", "Work With Me, Annie", and "The Old Master Painter"...but that stuff might be too obscure...although who would actually buy this compilation besides more devoted fans who could connect the BB's to these songs? As far as I know, the Valens recording of "Bluebirds Over The Mountain" was rather popular (and it's a good one!).I have to question some of the versions of these songs - often when a more obscure version is included it means that record was cheaper to use than a more familiar recording. Like "Bluebirds Over The Mountain", I'd think the Ersel Hickey original might be the first choice for a set like this since it was technically a "hit". Unless one of the Wilsons specifically mentioned Valens' version. And how about DION doing Ruby Baby??? THAT was the version that the BB's vocals seemed to be copying more on the Party version than the Drifters, at least to my ears...again I'll stand corrected if one of the band members has cited the Drifters' take over the more familiar Dion version, but I doubt it... And yeah, Party-take of "Ruby Baby" is obviously patterened after Dion (whose version is supreme, anyway). Title: Re: \ Post by: guitarfool2002 on March 12, 2012, 10:03:50 AM It's becoming more obvious that some of these choices may have been driven more by cost and budget than trying to include the versions that may have actually triggered the influence. I have a stack of compilation albums that do this, some of them are actually comical.
Dion cut the most familiar (and probably the definitive) version of "Ruby Baby", there's no question his version was the Beach Boys inspiration on Party...and even including that song no matter which version is a bit odd because the Beach Boys cover was unreleased for three decades... Title: Re: \ Post by: SBonilla on March 12, 2012, 10:07:36 AM I have to question some of the versions of these songs - often when a more obscure version is included it means that record was cheaper to use than a more familiar recording. Like "Bluebirds Over The Mountain", I'd think the Ersel Hickey original might be the first choice for a set like this since it was technically a "hit". Unless one of the Wilsons specifically mentioned Valens' version. I think Bruce took arrangement ideas from both versions. I like to think that he was tipping his hat to a hometown hero and his label alma mater. Title: Re: \ Post by: Jameswilliam on March 12, 2012, 10:29:06 AM It's a blue world!
Title: Re: \ Post by: Liamo on March 13, 2012, 10:59:01 AM Isn't there a cd called Magic transistor radio which is very similiar to this?
Title: Re: \ Post by: Paulos on March 13, 2012, 01:39:20 PM Isn't there a cd called Magic transistor radio which is very similiar to this? You are absolutely right mate - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Magic-Transistor-Radio-Vibrations-Recorded/dp/B003EH3J0O (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Magic-Transistor-Radio-Vibrations-Recorded/dp/B003EH3J0O) Note the misleading title 'Magic Transistor Radio: 20 Good Vibrations Recorded By Brian Wilson and The Beach Boys' - errrm, I don't recall Brian or The Beach Boys recording versions of One Kiss Led To Another or Tennesse Waltz or Sweet Little Sixteen. Nice artwork though. Title: Re: \ Post by: Disney Boy (1985) on March 13, 2012, 01:47:22 PM I once ordered 'The Roots of the Beach Boys' off ebay - and i was sent a photo of Murry's ball bag.
(Apologises for the low-brow humour) Title: Re: \ Post by: Mikie on March 13, 2012, 01:48:08 PM They're kinda remotely connected to Brian......not sure what the compiler was really thinking:
1. "One Kiss Led To Another" - worked on for the Beach Boys Party album - outtake. 2. "Tennessee Waltz" - a cut off the Spring/American Spring album 3. "Sweet Little Sixteen" - "Surfin' U.S.A." Title: Re: \ Post by: Paulos on March 13, 2012, 01:58:41 PM Thanks Mikie, didn't know about Tennesse Waltz being on the Spring album as haven't got around to getting the Spring album and I forgot that I have the Party! outtake of One Kiss Led To Another - I guess we all know about Sweet Little Sixteen but that compilation still has a misleading title.
Oh and Disney Boy, regarding the low brow humour I did wonder what Australian fans would make of the title 'The Roots of the Beach Boys' - in Australia this would translate as ''The F*cks of the Beach Boys'! Title: Re: \ Post by: Wild-Honey on March 13, 2012, 10:31:22 PM Where's - I can hear music?
Title: Re: \ Post by: Disney Boy (1985) on March 14, 2012, 01:21:08 AM Thanks Mikie, didn't know about Tennesse Waltz being on the Spring album as haven't got around to getting the Spring album and I forgot that I have the Party! outtake of One Kiss Led To Another - I guess we all know about Sweet Little Sixteen but that compilation still has a misleading title. Oh and Disney Boy, regarding the low brow humour I did wonder what Australian fans would make of the title 'The Roots of the Beach Boys' - in Australia this would translate as ''The F*cks of the Beach Boys'! If only it'd been called 'The Origins of the Beach Boys', then my gag would've worked somewhat better Title: Re: \ Post by: Alan Smith on March 14, 2012, 01:35:19 AM Oh and Disney Boy, regarding the low brow humour I did wonder what Australian fans would make of the title 'The Roots of the Beach Boys' - in Australia this would translate as ''The F*cks of the Beach Boys'! :lol Thanks for the clarification, Paulos, I certainly had translated as above and was expecting a box set just to cover Dennis's input/output, let alone the rest of the gang Title: Re: \ Post by: hypehat on March 14, 2012, 09:30:50 AM Oh and Disney Boy, regarding the low brow humour I did wonder what Australian fans would make of the title 'The Roots of the Beach Boys' - in Australia this would translate as ''The F*cks of the Beach Boys'! The contents of which are a copy of Fleetwood Mac's Rumours and the American Spring album? Title: Re: \ Post by: punkinhead on March 30, 2012, 05:03:03 AM Maybe they couldn't get the rights to include some of those obvious ones, or it cost too much to use them? Of course obvious ones to fans would be "Underwater" "Barbara Ann" and the like, and obvious ones to Smile fans would be "Gee", "Work With Me, Annie", and "The Old Master Painter"...but that stuff might be too obscure...although who would actually buy this compilation besides more devoted fans who could connect the BB's to these songs? What's Work with Me Annie and what's it's correlation to Smile?I have to question some of the versions of these songs - often when a more obscure version is included it means that record was cheaper to use than a more familiar recording. Like "Bluebirds Over The Mountain", I'd think the Ersel Hickey original might be the first choice for a set like this since it was technically a "hit". Unless one of the Wilsons specifically mentioned Valens' version. And how about DION doing Ruby Baby??? THAT was the version that the BB's vocals seemed to be copying more on the Party version than the Drifters, at least to my ears...again I'll stand corrected if one of the band members has cited the Drifters' take over the more familiar Dion version, but I doubt it... BTW, where's the Beatles on the Roots disc? Should have the whole US version of Rubber Soul on there. Title: Re: \ Post by: punkinhead on March 30, 2012, 05:05:01 AM Where's - I can hear music? idk but I think the Beach Boys version is far superior to the Ronnettes (sorry Phil, don't shoot me! ;)) I think it's also more well known than their original version. Also, She and Him's version feels very inspired by the Beach Boys' version. Title: Re: \ Post by: hypehat on March 30, 2012, 05:28:03 AM What's Work with Me Annie and what's it's correlation to Smile? It's this, right? An original version of it says 'Work With Me, Annie'. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsgBUtW_O4E Title: Re: \ Post by: punkinhead on March 30, 2012, 07:35:07 AM What's Work with Me Annie and what's it's correlation to Smile? It's this, right? An original version of it says 'Work With Me, Annie'. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsgBUtW_O4E Title: Re: \ Post by: sparkydog1725 on April 03, 2012, 02:25:02 PM "You Are My Sunshine" by anyone.
Title: Re: \ Post by: EgoHanger1966 on April 03, 2012, 02:38:26 PM This is a 'public domain' comp. Meaning, in the UK, music made 50 or more years ago, the copyright has lapsed, and certain labels take advantage of this by releasing CD's of music with material from 1962 and earlier. That's why there's no "Be My Baby", or "I Can Hear Music".
Title: Re: \ Post by: pixletwin on April 03, 2012, 02:45:53 PM More of a 'songs the BB covered' comp if you ask me - a pukka 'roots' album would include "Jennie Lee" by Jan & Dean, "Underwater" by the Frogmen", "When You Wish Upon A Star" by Ukulele Ike, "Stranded In the Jungle" by The Cadets and of course, "Shortenin' Bread" by, oh, anyone. Oh, and the obvious one is missing. Fanny Mae by Buster Brown That too, but I'm talking the screamingly obvious one. Their Hearts Were Full Of Spring? There are lots of these 'The Roots Of...' compilations - Elvis, Dylan, Stones, Beatles, no idea if they all follow a similar format. Yeah the Four Freshmen was the most glaring omission to me as well. Interesting concept for a collection album. Title: Re: \ Post by: tpesky on April 03, 2012, 06:37:47 PM I would say at least a surf instrumental plus Runaway plus Why Do Fools Fall In Love and of course BE MY BABY but Roots of the BB really doesn't describe the compilation. Oh well....
Title: Re: \ Post by: LonelyDays on April 04, 2012, 05:13:26 PM Where's - I can hear music? idk but I think the Beach Boys version is far superior to the Ronnettes (sorry Phil, don't shoot me! ;)) I think it's also more well known than their original version. Also, She and Him's version feels very inspired by the Beach Boys' version. The Ronettes' version was produced by Jeff Barry. Nothing to do with Phil :D Title: Re: \ Post by: Wild-Honey on April 04, 2012, 07:41:49 PM Where's - I can hear music? idk but I think the Beach Boys version is far superior to the Ronnettes (sorry Phil, don't shoot me! ;)) I think it's also more well known than their original version. Also, She and Him's version feels very inspired by the Beach Boys' version. I agree, far superior. Carls voice on this is one of my favorite of his. Title: Re: \ Post by: puni puni on April 05, 2012, 01:18:09 AM (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_6gueNYhVfSg/SIx-tS_sTpI/AAAAAAAAACs/mvTC8bfYxas/s320/back_to_mono.jpg)
Title: Re: \ Post by: hypehat on April 05, 2012, 05:11:22 AM Just found a different version of this on some mix of 78s, but another link to the SS version of Wonderful.....?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MY4ZOOaxaKA Title: Re: \ Post by: Paulos on April 15, 2012, 07:24:03 AM The artwork for this CD has been released
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/617SELXYcGL._SS500_.jpg) Title: Re: \ Post by: Lowbacca on April 15, 2012, 07:39:56 AM Rather crappy... looks like the Beach Boys did the soundtrack for a new Silent Hill game, or something.
Title: Re: \ Post by: Paulos on April 15, 2012, 07:47:19 AM Rather crappy... looks like the Beach Boys did the soundtrack for a new Silent Hill game, or something. The entire series of 'Roots Of' CDs have the same look. Nice to see we get the obligatory woodie and surf boards. Title: Re: Post by: Exapno Mapcase on April 15, 2012, 10:04:31 AM Where's the incidental music from Laurel and Hardy?
Title: Re: \ Post by: Lowbacca on April 15, 2012, 10:29:13 AM Rather crappy... looks like the Beach Boys did the soundtrack for a new Silent Hill game, or something. The entire series of 'Roots Of' CDs have the same look. Nice to see we get the obligatory woodie and surf boards. Title: Re: \ Post by: Paulos on April 15, 2012, 12:27:44 PM Hmmm, this looks like a pretty similar design to me!
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61Z9skznguL._SL500_AA300_.jpg) Title: Re: \ Post by: Lowbacca on April 15, 2012, 12:50:29 PM plz delete
Title: Re: \ Post by: Lowbacca on April 15, 2012, 12:50:57 PM That's obviously the same series in which the Beach Boys CD appears. Yes. But like I said, guess the compilations I have are not from that series. Actually, I've never even seen that design.
Title: Re: \ Post by: Paulos on May 02, 2012, 11:28:30 AM Got this CD through the post today, the liner notes are by Dave Henderson of Mojo, who manages to make some incredible mistakes, for example "Their debut set Surfin' Safari from 1962 included a version of The Gamblers' proto-surf instrumental 'Moon Dawg' as well as Eddie Cochran's party starting 'C'mon Everybody....". How the hell does he manage to confuse C'mon Everybody with Summertime Blues? They may have given us the glorious Cabin Essence/Wonderful yellow vinyl but Mojo sure do have some sloppy writers.
Title: Re: \ Post by: Ebb and Flow on May 02, 2012, 12:51:35 PM IMO their writers only seem interested in the Post-Party! period. Hence why you see errors like "Brian's sister Maureen" and an overall lack of familiarity with their early material.
Title: Re: Post by: The Shift on May 02, 2012, 02:24:12 PM IMO their writers only seem interested in the Post-Party! period. Hence why you see errors like "Brian's sister Maureen" and an overall lack of familiarity with their early material. Wasn't the same mistake made in the Mojo SMiLE special? I remember it being referred to somewhere in recent months… |