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Title: 1964 demo of \
Post by: CenturyDeprived on January 31, 2012, 02:20:45 AM
(Please ignore, posted a question that was already answered in the other thread...)


Title: Re: 1964 demo of \
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on January 31, 2012, 04:20:41 AM
Is there possibly a 1964 demo of "I'm Waiting For the Day" in existence?

I'm assuming there may possibly have been, since the song lyrics were copyrighted back then, right?

Doubtful that Brian would've written a song simply in his head without a demo or early version of some sort? 
I can dream, can't I?

Excellent question, and a most reasonable supposition.


Title: Re: 1964 demo of \
Post by: Iron Horse-Apples on January 31, 2012, 02:14:27 PM
I always presumed it was lyrics and basic notation, i.e melody and chords.

I can't see anyone sending just lyrics to a publishing company, but I could be wrong.

As for carrying a song around in your head, and that being the only copy so to speak, most composers worth their salt can do this. Straight to long term memory for further work.


Title: Re: 1964 demo of \
Post by: Paulos on January 31, 2012, 03:31:37 PM
My personal belief is that Brian would not have just had this song written in his head, Brian was the type, especially back then, to immediately get any ideas recorded even if only in demo form. Having said that, no mention of a demo of IWFTD existing in the vaults has ever been made (as far as I'm aware).


Title: Re: 1964 demo of \
Post by: Mark H. on January 31, 2012, 04:48:16 PM
A big supposition here - but maybe they were the "original" lyrics to a released song.  Would they fit any known release from 1964 or early 1965?


Title: Re: 1964 demo of \
Post by: Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again on January 31, 2012, 08:22:52 PM
So, how did Mike's name get on this song and does anyone know what his contribution was?

I promise I'm not trying to degrade this into a violent Myke defense screed, but I'm just curious as to why Mike would get credit for apparently minimal contributions for this song but not for California Girls where he wrote every word.


Title: Re: 1964 demo of \
Post by: stack-o-tracks on January 31, 2012, 08:59:33 PM
Every word of California Girls?

I seem to remember something about acid, a piano and "well east coast girls are hip"


Title: Re: 1964 demo of \
Post by: Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again on January 31, 2012, 09:01:09 PM
Yes, you're right! And Brian had the title first, right?

Regardless, Mike contributed greatly to the lyrics.


Title: Re: 1964 demo of \
Post by: Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again on January 31, 2012, 09:01:39 PM
Yes, you're right! And Brian had the title first, I understand.

Regardless, Mike contributed greatly to the lyrics.


Title: Re: 1964 demo of \
Post by: Rocker on February 02, 2012, 08:24:42 AM
Every word of California Girls?

I seem to remember something about acid, a piano and "well east coast girls are hip"


I guess Brian just sang the words to emphasize the melody and not to make it look like he wrote those lyrics. And I never heard that Brian came up with the title. His first title was "I hate Rock'n'Roll", wasn't it ? Of course this is all my guess


Title: Re: 1964 demo of \
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on February 02, 2012, 10:47:32 AM
Yes, you're right! And Brian had the title first, right?

Wrong. At the first session it was logged as "We Don't Know", and later went by "I Love The Girls".


Title: Re: 1964 demo of \
Post by: hypehat on February 02, 2012, 10:52:17 AM
Yes, you're right! And Brian had the title first, right?

Wrong. At the first session it was logged as "We Don't Know", and later went by "I Love The Girls".

Or my personal favourite as per the session tape, 'I'm Grass & You're a Powermower'  :lol

Didn't you yourself AGD suggest Mike Love's contribution was a but a few words to IWFTD? Or has this Whitman criticism finally broken  my fragile mind?


Title: Re: 1964 demo of \
Post by: Iron Horse-Apples on February 02, 2012, 10:52:30 AM
Yes, you're right! And Brian had the title first, right?

Wrong. At the first session it was logged as "We Don't Know", and later went by "I Love The Girls".

You gonna try for the big 10,000 tonight Andrew?


Title: Re: 1964 demo of \
Post by: Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again on February 02, 2012, 12:55:41 PM
Yes, you're right! And Brian had the title first, right?

Wrong. At the first session it was logged as "We Don't Know", and later went by "I Love The Girls".

OK, so then Mike basically did write every word of the song?



Title: Re: 1964 demo of \
Post by: Aegir on February 02, 2012, 11:58:18 PM
actually according to Mike during one of the 67 Hawaii concerts, it was originally called "California Girls Are All Pregnant". shortened the title.


Title: Re: 1964 demo of \
Post by: Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again on February 03, 2012, 12:42:49 AM
Considering the bursting-at-the-seams population #'s here in Cali, I'd wager Mike was right.