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Title: Brian Wilson tells British Airways he's re-recorded Sweet Insanity...
Post by: hypehat on January 30, 2012, 08:05:41 AM
Now the reunion news is out of the bag, he has to make up more barefaced lies to tell journalists?  :lol


http://bahighlife.com/News-And-Blogs/Notes-From-A-Traveller/Notes-from-a-traveller-Brian-Wilson.html


Title: Re: Brian Wilson tells British Airways he's re-recorded Sweet Insanity...
Post by: 18thofMay on January 30, 2012, 08:07:39 AM
Funny stuff...


Title: Re: Brian Wilson tells British Airways he's re-recorded Sweet Insanity...
Post by: Lowbacca on January 30, 2012, 08:08:46 AM
What the f***....  :lol I want a Sweet Insanity tour in 2013...


Title: Re: Brian Wilson tells British Airways he's re-recorded Sweet Insanity...
Post by: Austin on January 30, 2012, 08:10:55 AM
Nice little feature.

And, wow, what I'd give to hear a 70-year-old rapping Brian.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson tells British Airways he's re-recorded Sweet Insanity...
Post by: Roger Ryan on January 30, 2012, 08:13:01 AM
Clearly, Brian considers GETTING IN OVER MY HEAD to be the SWEET INSANITY redux.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson tells British Airways he's re-recorded Sweet Insanity...
Post by: SMiLE Brian on January 30, 2012, 08:14:30 AM
BWPSI- Brian Wilson Presents Sweet Insanity. :lol


Title: Re: Brian Wilson tells British Airways he's re-recorded Sweet Insanity...
Post by: Shady on January 30, 2012, 09:07:03 AM
Brian's Beatles jealousy has to be fake, he can't really think those things


Title: Re: Brian Wilson tells British Airways he's re-recorded Sweet Insanity...
Post by: hypehat on January 30, 2012, 09:15:02 AM
I bet he does - for the same reason he thinks people recognise him for his 14 dogs rather than the fact he's Brian sodding Wilson, or says, 'I'm not a genius, just a hard working guy', I guess.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson tells British Airways he's re-recorded Sweet Insanity...
Post by: donald on January 30, 2012, 09:18:25 AM
I'm trying to imagine Brian walking 14 dogs around L.A.  Or anywhere for that matter.  Or anybody walking 14 dogs.
I try to walk 2 and the leashes get tangled.

We need a picture of this.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson tells British Airways he's re-recorded Sweet Insanity...
Post by: Mike's Beard on January 30, 2012, 09:58:59 AM
Maybe he could hook them up to The Little St. Nick and have them pull him around LA husky style.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson tells British Airways he's re-recorded Sweet Insanity...
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on January 30, 2012, 10:40:23 AM
Maybe he could hook them up to The Little St. Nick and have them pull him around LA husky style.

:lol


Title: Re: Brian Wilson tells British Airways he's re-recorded Sweet Insanity...
Post by: shelter on January 30, 2012, 10:50:40 AM
Brian's Beatles jealousy has to be fake, he can't really think those things
I agree. Even the most hardcore Beatles fan will admit that at least The Beach Boys' group harmonies were better than The Beatles'.

Quote
'Hey Brian... how's things?' And I'm like 'How the heck do they recognise me? Oh, yeah, maybe it's the 14 dogs.'
LOL.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson tells British Airways he's re-recorded Sweet Insanity...
Post by: Mr. Wilson on January 30, 2012, 10:54:20 AM
My friend Galen has seen BW + a friend walkin along Ventura blvd in the valley in jogging suits..Without the dogs + people recognize him .! He is kinda hard to miss. What is he 6" 3" or so..?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson tells British Airways he's re-recorded Sweet Insanity...
Post by: Iron Horse-Apples on January 30, 2012, 11:00:46 AM
Even the most hardcore Beatles fan will admit that at least The Beach Boys' group harmonies were better than The Beatles'.

I know several who wouldn't. Hardcore Beatles fans are like hardcore religious nuts IMO. They are incredulous that the whole world doesn't think as they do, and get very threatened / defensive when challenged. I know of no other fan base with that attitude. Not all of them obviously. There are a few decent Beatles fans out there I'm sure.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson tells British Airways he's re-recorded Sweet Insanity...
Post by: Melt Away on January 30, 2012, 11:23:30 AM
BWPSI- Brian Wilson Presents Sweet Insanity. :lol
[/quote

LOL! A re-recording of "Water Builds Up" would be awesome.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson tells British Airways he's re-recorded Sweet Insanity...
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on January 30, 2012, 11:23:53 AM
Well, in a way Gettin' In Over My Head was the released version of Sweet Insanity (or Sweet Conspiracy as the lyrics of Rainbow Eyes re-wrote it).  Plus, Spirit of Rock and Roll and Country Feeling have both turned up on compilations.  And the remainder of the tracks that weren't re-recorded should stay in the vaults, unreleased, where they belong.  I mean, some of the tracks that were re-recorded for Gettin' In Over My Head were bad enough.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson tells British Airways he's re-recorded Sweet Insanity...
Post by: Ron on January 30, 2012, 11:31:00 AM
We don't know what the hell's going on.  Maybe Brian wouldn't re-record Smile if he couldnt' finish Sweet Insanity as well.  He might have insisted on it.  Maybe that's why several have popped up, he re-recorded the entire album (AGAIN). 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson tells British Airways he's re-recorded Sweet Insanity...
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on January 30, 2012, 11:41:14 AM
BWPSI- Brian Wilson Presents Sweet Insanity. :lol
Brian Wilson Reimagines Landy


Title: Re: Brian Wilson tells British Airways he's re-recorded Sweet Insanity...
Post by: SMiLE Brian on January 30, 2012, 11:45:08 AM
BWPSI- Brian Wilson Presents Sweet Insanity. :lol

LOL! A re-recording of "Water Builds Up" would be awesome.

I have a feeling if they did a live concert, only the members of this board (me included) would be in the audience. ;D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson tells British Airways he's re-recorded Sweet Insanity...
Post by: Rocker on January 30, 2012, 11:49:48 AM
Even the most hardcore Beatles fan will admit that at least The Beach Boys' group harmonies were better than The Beatles'.

I know several who wouldn't. Hardcore Beatles fans are like hardcore religious nuts IMO. They are incredulous that the whole world doesn't think as they do, and get very threatened / defensive when challenged. I know of no other fan base with that attitude.



Ha ! Ever talked with hardcore Presley-fans ? I guess it's the same with most artists.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson tells British Airways he's re-recorded Sweet Insanity...
Post by: SMiLE Brian on January 30, 2012, 11:50:06 AM
BWPSI- Brian Wilson Presents Sweet Insanity. :lol
Brian Wilson Reimagines Landy
Every song is about how much of a Bastard Landy was.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson tells British Airways he's re-recorded Sweet Insanity...
Post by: PongHit on January 30, 2012, 11:58:24 AM

I don't believe brian said it — Brian can be hard to understand, and the interviewer or transcriber of the audio probably assumed he said "Sweet Insanity" — but it was more likely something like this: "I couldn't believe the standing ovation I received when I re-recorded Smile — it was just insanity."


Title: Re: Brian Wilson tells British Airways he's re-recorded Sweet Insanity...
Post by: Aegir on January 30, 2012, 12:11:46 PM
He's obviously just referring to GIOMH.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson tells British Airways he's re-recorded Sweet Insanity...
Post by: Justin on January 30, 2012, 03:43:22 PM
Either parts of that interview are heavily edited/made-up or it's not Brian at all...


Title: Re: Brian Wilson tells British Airways he's re-recorded Sweet Insanity...
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on January 30, 2012, 10:52:31 PM
Nah, it seems like Brian was on a good day.

I also agree with Pong Hit.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson tells British Airways he's re-recorded Sweet Insanity...
Post by: Aegir on January 30, 2012, 11:00:08 PM
Why would the average Brian interview have ever heard of Sweet Insanity enough for them to mishear Brian saying something else as Sweet Insanity? also, GIOMH could arguably be referred to, off the cuff, by a mentally ill old man, as a rerecording of Sweet Insanity.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson tells British Airways he's re-recorded Sweet Insanity...
Post by: Jay on January 30, 2012, 11:07:40 PM
I don't see how this is possible. Most of the best(?) material was already re-done on Gettin' In Over My Head.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson tells British Airways he's re-recorded Sweet Insanity...
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on January 30, 2012, 11:14:33 PM
Yeah, probably meant GIOMH.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson tells British Airways he's re-recorded Sweet Insanity...
Post by: Aegir on January 30, 2012, 11:39:26 PM
I feel like no one even read the interview. Read this: "I couldn't believe the standing ovation I received when I re-recorded Smile and Sweet Insanity and played at London's Royal Festival Hall for the first time." Obviously he was referring to Gettin' in Over My Head when he said that. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson tells British Airways he's re-recorded Sweet Insanity...
Post by: Jay on January 30, 2012, 11:40:09 PM
Maybe he realised how bad his singing on GIOMH is, and he decided to do it right, with his backing band?  ;D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson tells British Airways he's re-recorded Sweet Insanity...
Post by: The Heartical Don on February 01, 2012, 01:47:40 AM
Even the most hardcore Beatles fan will admit that at least The Beach Boys' group harmonies were better than The Beatles'.

I know several who wouldn't. Hardcore Beatles fans are like hardcore religious nuts IMO. They are incredulous that the whole world doesn't think as they do, and get very threatened / defensive when challenged. I know of no other fan base with that attitude.



Ha ! Ever talked with hardcore Presley-fans ? I guess it's the same with most artists.

Interesting point. Most of the time I think that we're somehow a unique bunch, with all our total devotion and our obsessions. But when I contemplate this a bit deeper, I come to the conclusion that any major artist has a hardcore following like us, with those debates about mixes, remixes, mono vs. stereo, lost treasures, boots, and the endless bickering about lost nanoseconds in the coda/fade-out of a song.

Must be genetically determined. And it is a psychiatric disorder predominantly linked to the male gender.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson tells British Airways he's re-recorded Sweet Insanity...
Post by: Amy B. on February 01, 2012, 05:15:49 AM
Now the reunion news is out of the bag, he has to make up more barefaced lies to tell journalists?  :lol

http://bahighlife.com/News-And-Blogs/Notes-From-A-Traveller/Notes-from-a-traveller-Brian-Wilson.html

It's clear that these are not direct quotes. They're probably distilled from what Brian said. For example: "One day I may go back there and play again for the older hippie crowd, as it's set in a beautiful part of Surrey."  That construction "as it's set" is a British thing more than an American thing. A few Americans use it, but it doesn't sound like Brian.
Maybe Brian said something about "Smile and Gettin' In Over My Head" but the interviewer didn't hear the second one, so he went home and looked up (relatively) recent BW albums and took a guess that Brian had said "Sweet Insanity."


Title: Re: Brian Wilson tells British Airways he's re-recorded Sweet Insanity...
Post by: William Bowe on February 01, 2012, 08:35:43 AM
I like Sweet Insanity. The sequence of songs Do You Have Any Regrets, Thank You (yeah, I know, the lyrics ...), Hotter, Spirit of Rock & Roll, Rainbow Eyes and Love Ya kicks ass (granting of course that much of the remainder is beyond horrible). Back me up, somebody.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson tells British Airways he's re-recorded Sweet Insanity...
Post by: SMiLE Brian on February 01, 2012, 09:06:24 AM
Just listened to Sweet Insanity all the way through, still in shock about how bad this album is. :thud


Title: Re: Brian Wilson tells British Airways he's re-recorded Sweet Insanity...
Post by: Mr. Wilson on February 01, 2012, 10:16:04 AM
I agree with Don And i like Sweet Insanity...And no im not deaf..Those recordings are better than the re recordings scattered across BW albums. and i like most of the songs. Dont let her know she"s an angel is brilliant.!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson tells British Airways he's re-recorded Sweet Insanity...
Post by: Iron Horse-Apples on February 01, 2012, 10:49:49 AM
Just listened to Sweet Insanity all the way through, still in shock about how bad this album is. :thud

There's nothing wrong with the songs themselves, but the album is seriously let down by its horrible production /instrument choices. No BW 88 is synthy too, but it's quirky and has Brian's stamp all over it. Sweet Insanity sounds so horribly late 80's as to render it nearly unlistenable to me.

If you can, check out Darian's '65 style version of Do You Have Any Regrets. I don't have it, so don't ask, but you'll hear what a great song it is when given better production. Classic BW.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson tells British Airways he's re-recorded Sweet Insanity...
Post by: SMiLE Brian on February 01, 2012, 11:05:22 AM
Just listened to Sweet Insanity all the way through, still in shock about how bad this album is. :thud

There's nothing wrong with the songs themselves, but the album is seriously let down by its horrible production /instrument choices. No BW 88 is synthy too, but it's quirky and has Brian's stamp all over it. Sweet Insanity sounds so horribly late 80's as to render it nearly unlistenable to me.

If you can, check out Darian's '65 style version of Do You Have Any Regrets. I don't have it, so don't ask, but you'll hear what a great song it is when given better production. Classic BW.
Do You Have Any Regrets is on youtube, and it is Darian saving that song, turning it into another BW classic.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson tells British Airways he's re-recorded Sweet Insanity...
Post by: Iron Horse-Apples on February 01, 2012, 11:14:45 AM
You're right, thanks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ndMltIVTJc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ndMltIVTJc)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson tells British Airways he's re-recorded Sweet Insanity...
Post by: SMiLE Brian on February 01, 2012, 11:21:41 AM
You're right, thanks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ndMltIVTJc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ndMltIVTJc)
"concert tonight" on the other hand is a piece of crap.... ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yk_8BwvmN6g&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ey1_BOGLIO0&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL


Title: Re: Brian Wilson tells British Airways he's re-recorded Sweet Insanity...
Post by: Rocker on February 02, 2012, 08:09:23 AM
There's some great songwriting on Sweet Insanity. "Do you have any regrets" is a favorite of mine and the ballads "Rainbow eyes" and "Don't let her know she's an angel" are phenomenal. Unfortunately Brian totally destroyed the former on GIOMH while doing a good job on the latter one.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson tells British Airways he's re-recorded Sweet Insanity...
Post by: PongHit on February 02, 2012, 10:10:22 AM
Read this: "I couldn't believe the standing ovation I received when I re-recorded Smile and Sweet Insanity and played at London's Royal Festival Hall for the first time." Obviously he was referring to Gettin' in Over My Head when he said that. 

But they never performed SWEET INSANITY at Royal Festival Hall, nor anywhere else.  It's not obvious to me that he meant GIOMH; I'd be surprised if he remembered the SI title — and I wouldn't assume he'd draw a connection to GIOMH — the track-lists aren't terribly similar to each other.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson tells British Airways he's re-recorded Sweet Insanity...
Post by: Iron Horse-Apples on February 02, 2012, 10:34:31 AM
I'd be surprised if he remembered the SI title

He has his problems, but a bad memory isn't one of them.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson tells British Airways he's re-recorded Sweet Insanity...
Post by: Roger Ryan on February 02, 2012, 10:56:21 AM
..."Rainbow eyes" and "Don't let her know she's an angel" are phenomenal. Unfortunately Brian totally destroyed the former on GIOMH while doing a good job on the latter one.

I love the production/arrangement of "Rainbow Eyes" on GIOMH, a big improvement over the synthetic sterility of the original...however, Brian's vocals are quite bad. I know folks don't care for the drums on the "Don't Let Her Know She's An Angel" remake, but I think it's a decent job all around.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson tells British Airways he's re-recorded Sweet Insanity...
Post by: PongHit on February 02, 2012, 11:35:06 AM
He has his problems, but a bad memory isn't one of them.

Are you serious? He says he has zero memory of doing lots of major things.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson tells British Airways he's re-recorded Sweet Insanity...
Post by: GuyOnTheBeach on February 02, 2012, 12:47:27 PM
He has his problems, but a bad memory isn't one of them.

Are you serious? He says he has zero memory of doing lots of major things.

I don't know the man personally, thus have never spoken to him 1 on 1 but I've always assumed what Brian Wilson remembers and what Brian Wilson says he remembers are two very different things.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson tells British Airways he's re-recorded Sweet Insanity...
Post by: PongHit on February 02, 2012, 02:15:52 PM
I've always assumed what Brian Wilson remembers and what Brian Wilson says he remembers are two very different things.

For example, he was recently asked if he remembered making GV, and any parts of SMILE, and his answer was no.  Why would he lie about that?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson tells British Airways he's re-recorded Sweet Insanity...
Post by: GuyOnTheBeach on February 02, 2012, 02:25:39 PM
I've always assumed what Brian Wilson remembers and what Brian Wilson says he remembers are two very different things.

For example, he was recently asked if he remembered making GV, and any parts of SMILE, and his answer was no.  Why would he lie about that?

I'm not saying he's lying as such, but I'll give an example relating to me, in real life (outside of the WWW) I've learned to play dumb with certain things, if one person knows that I know something, suddenly everyone knows and I constantly get asked the same questions regarding it, thus I deny knowing that specific thing, now put that over the course of 40 years in the context of a mentally ill man who has a lot of pain tied up in certain memories, the last thing he is going to want to do is answer the same questions about something like that over and over again, it's easier to deny knowing about it.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson tells British Airways he's re-recorded Sweet Insanity...
Post by: Iron Horse-Apples on February 02, 2012, 02:39:30 PM
I've always assumed what Brian Wilson remembers and what Brian Wilson says he remembers are two very different things.

For example, he was recently asked if he remembered making GV, and any parts of SMILE, and his answer was no.  Why would he lie about that?

He lies to interviewers all the time if he doesn't want to answer a question. Seriously. He has total recall on all things musical and mathematical (same thing). He can remember every note of music he's ever written. He can remember any phone number. Some of the stories about his memory are uncanny.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson tells British Airways he's re-recorded Sweet Insanity...
Post by: PongHit on February 02, 2012, 02:54:48 PM
He has total recall on all things musical and mathematical (same thing). He can remember every note of music he's ever written. He can remember any phone number. Some of the stories about his memory are uncanny.

That's ^ intriguing.  Do you have any links to examples?  He apparently also has synesthesia, which might be connected(?) 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson tells British Airways he's re-recorded Sweet Insanity...
Post by: hypehat on February 02, 2012, 02:58:42 PM
One example would be in 2003, where he decides to call Van Dyke.... and whips his phone number out of thin air.

Synthesisa is probably a stretch, because if Brian isn't just chatting **** in the one interview this is mentioned, he has a 'palette' of about 4 colours. Most keys are red.  :lol


Title: Re: Brian Wilson tells British Airways he's re-recorded Sweet Insanity...
Post by: Amy B. on February 02, 2012, 08:30:01 PM
[ I've learned to play dumb with certain things, if one person knows that I know something, suddenly everyone knows and I constantly get asked the same questions regarding it, thus I deny knowing that specific thing, now put that over the course of 40 years in the context of a mentally ill man who has a lot of pain tied up in certain memories, the last thing he is going to want to do is answer the same questions about something like that over and over again, it's easier to deny knowing about it.

I can't find it on YouTube, but I once saw a video where a fan asks him how he got the percussive sound on Do It Again. At first he says he can't remember. But pressed on it, he relates exactly how it was done. (I assume-- unless he was just making it up.)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson tells British Airways he's re-recorded Sweet Insanity...
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on February 02, 2012, 11:45:59 PM
I've always assumed what Brian Wilson remembers and what Brian Wilson says he remembers are two very different things.

For example, he was recently asked if he remembered making GV, and any parts of SMILE, and his answer was no.  Why would he lie about that?

He lies to interviewers all the time if he doesn't want to answer a question. Seriously. He has total recall on all things musical and mathematical (same thing). He can remember every note of music he's ever written. He can remember any phone number. Some of the stories about his memory are uncanny.

Classic example came very recently: seemingly he was told to say nothing about the in-progress "reunion" plans, but being Brian he took it a step further and was denying it to everyone who asked... then blew it by saying he was glad it was out in the open as he was running out of things to say. Brian lies but there's no malice in it: it's just a defence mechanism.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson tells British Airways he's re-recorded Sweet Insanity...
Post by: lance on February 03, 2012, 02:39:27 AM
Sweet Insanity has definitely improved in my reckoning...biggest weakness for me is probably Brian's vocals rather than the dated producction.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson tells British Airways he's re-recorded Sweet Insanity...
Post by: Alan Smith on February 03, 2012, 03:42:00 AM

I can't find it on YouTube, but I once saw a video where a fan asks him how he got the percussive sound on Do It Again. At first he says he can't remember. But pressed on it, he relates exactly how it was done. (I assume-- unless he was just making it up.)


If he said he got the DIA drum sound by leaving Stephen Desper in the studio while he went out for lunch, then he speaks the truth


Title: Re: Brian Wilson tells British Airways he's re-recorded Sweet Insanity...
Post by: Ron on February 03, 2012, 03:47:52 PM
One example would be in 2003, where he decides to call Van Dyke.... and whips his phone number out of thin air.

Synthesisa is probably a stretch, because if Brian isn't just chatting **** in the one interview this is mentioned, he has a 'palette' of about 4 colours. Most keys are red.  :lol

Might I add:

"I wrote a number down
But I lost it
So I searched through my pocket book
I couldn't find it
So I sat and concentrated on the number
And slowly it came to me
So I dialed it"


Title: Re: Brian Wilson tells British Airways he's re-recorded Sweet Insanity...
Post by: hypehat on February 03, 2012, 04:38:59 PM
Ah yes, but that's a wrong number  :lol