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Title: Brian's Most Personal Song
Post by: Denny's Drums on January 28, 2012, 07:42:16 PM
What do you think is Brian Wilson's single most personal song either with The Beach Boys or as a solo artist?

My vote goes to Til I Die, one of the most deeply personal songs ever. Brian wrote the lyrics as well as the music which makes it all the more poignant and moving considering his state of mind at the time, kind of a musical suicide note. His lyrics like "I'm a cork on the ocean and I'm a leaf on a windy day" are very effective metaphors that reflect a vulnerable, fragile man. Also the chord patterns and keyboard work sound like you're being caught up in the ocean's undertows, just an incredible work of art.


Title: Re: Brian's Most Personal Song
Post by: Lowbacca on January 28, 2012, 07:47:30 PM
Midnight's Another Day (with lyrical help by S. Bennett)


Title: Re: Brian's Most Personal Song
Post by: oldsurferdude on January 28, 2012, 07:56:10 PM
Early Brian-In My Room
Middle Brian-Today(side 2)
     "        "   -IJWMFTT
Adult Brian- TID
Later Brian-MAD


Title: Re: Brian's Most Personal Song
Post by: Nicko1234 on January 28, 2012, 08:11:08 PM
Not sure how people can judge the songs that Brian didn't write the lyrics for.

'Til I Die is the obvious choice.


Title: Re: Brian's Most Personal Song
Post by: Reverend Rock on January 28, 2012, 08:48:37 PM
I think that a lot of Brian's work with lyricists is also very personal, but I can't imagine a more deeply personal lyric than "Til I Die".  I would say that's the most personal song he ever wrote.


Title: Re: Brian's Most Personal Song
Post by: Mr. Wilson on January 28, 2012, 09:25:17 PM
I agree with above posts and i would add..Its Over Now + Still I dream of it.


Title: Re: Brian's Most Personal Song
Post by: Emdeeh on January 28, 2012, 09:45:12 PM
"This Whole World" makes a nice bookend to "'Til I Die."


Title: Re: Brian's Most Personal Song
Post by: Jim V. on January 28, 2012, 09:52:49 PM
"This Whole World" makes a nice bookend to "'Til I Die."

I agree with this. These are 2 sides of seem kind. "This Whole World" is cheerful, hopeful Brian and "'Til I Die" is his more melancholy side.

And I don't think I'd be crazy to say that I would trade entire albums of other people's work for just those 2 songs. Both are immense pieces of work.


Title: Re: Brian's Most Personal Song
Post by: Denny's Drums on January 28, 2012, 09:58:37 PM
It's amazing when you play Sunflower and Surfs Up one after the other how different they are in overall mood. I think another very personal song by Brian would be Let's Put Our Hearts Together, like Peter Buck said "It's so personal it's almost to hard to listen to."


Title: Re: Brian's Most Personal Song
Post by: The Shift on January 28, 2012, 11:02:49 PM
I'd throw Breakaway and I'm Bugged At My Old Man on tithe list for consideration! Busy Doing Nothing is a beautiful Slice of Brian also.


Title: Re: Brian's Most Personal Song
Post by: BillA on January 28, 2012, 11:10:20 PM
The first thing that popped onto my head was "In My Room" ("Til I Die" and "IJWMFTT seem reral personal to) but "Mrs. O'Leary's Cow" and "In Blue Hawaii" have always struck me as personal.  Mrs. O'Leary's Cow", with it's "American in Paris" on acid vibe seems hellish but the exit to IBH seems so hopeful.  It is the way I hope Brain feels after what he has gone thorough.


Title: Re: Brian's Most Personal Song
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on January 29, 2012, 01:29:31 AM
I'd throw Breakaway and I'm Bugged At My Old Man on tithe list for consideration! Busy Doing Nothing is a beautiful Slice of Brian also.

*koff* lyrics for "BA" are Murry's.   :-D


Title: Re: Brian's Most Personal Song
Post by: The Shift on January 29, 2012, 02:26:20 AM
"When I lay down on my bed, I heard voices in my head…"

To my ears, that's pure, honestly spoken Brian at his frankest, or Brian-est…!

Unless it was hereditary…  ;D


Title: Re: Brian's Most Personal Song
Post by: Alan Smith on January 29, 2012, 03:14:03 AM
'Til I Die, hands down, but can I add The Night was so Young which always strikes me as being an imensely personal song, and another great slice of Brian's life songs.

I'm always taken in by the small details he recounts, as well as his pondering of what the other person is thinking about.



Title: Re: Brian's Most Personal Song
Post by: Iron Horse-Apples on January 29, 2012, 07:52:32 AM
Day In The Life Of A Tree.

Seriously, his whole story as an artist is in there. I love that song. Some people take it as another Brian put-on, but when that fairground organ comes in, i'm in tears every time.


Title: Re: Brian's Most Personal Song
Post by: Ron on January 29, 2012, 08:23:25 AM
How about "My Diane" ?  It's possibly more personal because it's about something that was literally going on at the time (if you consider it about his wife; or if you think he was more upset about Diane).   

Til I Die is personal but in more of a general or abstract commentary kind of way.  My Diane's like "My Wife's leaving me" 


Title: Re: Brian's Most Personal Song
Post by: filledeplage on January 29, 2012, 09:07:55 AM
Southern California

or

Lay Down Burden


Title: Re: Brian's Most Personal Song
Post by: Outtasight! on January 29, 2012, 10:57:50 AM
It's Not Easy Being Me.


Title: Re: Brian's Most Personal Song
Post by: BananaLouie on January 29, 2012, 11:09:39 AM
Oh Lord


Title: Re: Brian's Most Personal Song
Post by: Cam Mott on January 29, 2012, 11:43:53 AM
I vote Busy Doin' Nothin'.


Title: Re: Brian's Most Personal Song
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on January 29, 2012, 11:53:12 AM
How about "My Diane" ?  It's possibly more personal because it's about something that was literally going on at the time (if you consider it about his wife; or if you think he was more upset about Diane).   

Til I Die is personal but in more of a general or abstract commentary kind of way.  My Diane's like "My Wife's leaving me" 

Nope, "My Diane" is about Diane Rovell. I asked her.


Title: Re: Brian's Most Personal Song
Post by: Pearlfisher David on January 29, 2012, 12:16:08 PM
Love And Mercy...just like in All You Need Is Love the 'you' is 'him'  :)


Title: Re: Brian's Most Personal Song
Post by: GuyOnTheBeach on January 29, 2012, 12:39:53 PM
I'd say (providing Brian wrote the Lyrics) that "Brian (Thank You)" could be a VERY personal song/bitch fest about Mike et all


Title: Re: Brian's Most Personal Song
Post by: Shady on January 29, 2012, 02:42:12 PM
Roller skating child



 ;D


Title: Re: Brian's Most Personal Song
Post by: Ron on January 29, 2012, 02:47:38 PM
How about "My Diane" ?  It's possibly more personal because it's about something that was literally going on at the time (if you consider it about his wife; or if you think he was more upset about Diane).   

Til I Die is personal but in more of a general or abstract commentary kind of way.  My Diane's like "My Wife's leaving me" 

Nope, "My Diane" is about Diane Rovell. I asked her.

Still applies.  He's obviously upset about it, deeply personal song. 


Title: Re: Brian's Most Personal Song
Post by: bossaroo on January 29, 2012, 02:55:16 PM
funny how some of Brian's most personal songs have a real universal quality: In My Room, Til I Die, Midnight's Another Day, etc.

even when he used lyricists, Brian was clearly coming up with the themes. Everything on Pet Sounds for instance. All very personal.

I think When A Man Needs A Woman and Busy Doin Nothin are good candidates. I Went To Sleep. Games Two Can Play. I'll Bet He's Nice.

it's a tough question because almost all of Brian's songs have an extremely personal quality.


other songs seem to have been written with Brian in mind: Breakaway, Sail On Sailor, Long Promised Road, Wouldn't It Be Nice To Live Again


Title: Re: Brian's Most Personal Song
Post by: BananaLouie on January 29, 2012, 02:59:00 PM
other songs seem to have been written with Brian in mind: Breakaway, Sail On Sailor, Long Promised Road, Wouldn't It Be Nice To Live Again

I think Mr. Fulton (although the inventor of the steamboat) can be interpreted as Brian and the Steamboat can be The Beach Boys...does that theory work?  :-\


Title: Re: Brian's Most Personal Song
Post by: bossaroo on January 29, 2012, 07:24:43 PM
i like it  :)


Title: Re: Brian's Most Personal Song
Post by: joshferrell on January 29, 2012, 08:26:46 PM
"Cry" and "Lay down burden" as well... :afro


Title: Re: Brian's Most Personal Song
Post by: Alex on January 29, 2012, 09:41:36 PM
Marcella


Title: Re: Brian's Most Personal Song
Post by: petzounds on January 30, 2012, 04:03:45 AM
 Guess I'm  Dumb


Title: Re: Brian's Most Personal Song
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on January 30, 2012, 10:24:32 PM
I Just Can't Wait to be King. I mean, my wife pointed out that the lyrics actually kind of fit Brian circa-Pet Sounds, and Brian's vocal sounds subconsciously influenced by that.

Just Like me & You- those are some seriously f*cked up lyrics, and make me wonder about him and Melinda. :lol

More seriously... these to me are Brian's most personal songs...

Til I Die - and not just because it's my all-time favorite BB recording (followed by All I Wanna Do, the cover of The Letter which shouldn't count but dammit I like it :D , Time to Get Alone, and Everybody Wants to Live Just Once) but because this is Brian's best set of lyrics, and were pure genius.

The Night Was So Young- for reasons that should be obvious.

My Diane- see above

Busy Doin' Nothin'

Still I Dream of It


Title: Re: Brian's Most Personal Song
Post by: I. Spaceman on January 30, 2012, 10:54:51 PM
Chug-A-Lug.


Title: Re: Brian's Most Personal Song
Post by: Jay on January 30, 2012, 11:15:29 PM
Still I Dream Of It. I mean, when he sings "Someday I'll find my world"....wow.  :'(


Title: Re: Brian's Most Personal Song
Post by: cablegeddon on January 31, 2012, 12:07:10 AM
Johny Carson


Title: Re: Brian's Most Personal Song
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on January 31, 2012, 12:20:18 AM
Still I Dream Of It. I mean, when he sings "Someday I'll find my world"....wow.  :'(

Hell yeah.


Title: Re: Brian's Most Personal Song
Post by: Cabinessenceking on July 05, 2012, 02:40:08 PM
Day In The Life Of A Tree is purely about himself. how more personal can it get? most other suggestions are really good, more explicit messages in those though.


Title: Re: Brian's Most Personal Song
Post by: pixletwin on July 05, 2012, 02:44:32 PM
Amen to this. Absolutely yes.

Day In The Life Of A Tree.

Seriously, his whole story as an artist is in there. I love that song. Some people take it as another Brian put-on, but when that fairground organ comes in, i'm in tears every time.