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Title: The Political Songs
Post by: KokoNO on January 27, 2012, 01:31:02 AM
Just wondering what some of you think are the band's best political songs. Here's my take:


Surfers Rule - This track is obviously a statement sent back at Duane Eddy who had been drafted and decried that "surfers are squares" before being killed in Korea. A blunt, well-written statement from a band about to have the US Government shaking in their boots. "It's a GENUINE fact that the surfers rule..."


Pom, Pom Play Girl - This classic tale about the burgeoning women's rights and sexual movement from Carl's point of view of a young man masturbating to Playboy centerfolds was certainly shocking for its era, but what made it so profound was the gender bending "Play Girl" meaning that posing nude for a magazine could actually be empowering or that Carl was down with posing for Playgirl....which didn't even exist yet, I believe. Forward thinking crusaders? Yes.


Salt Lake City - What many don't know is that the proceeds of this song went to the Salt Lake Preservation Fund which was set up in 1961 to counteract the endless amount of waste that had been dumped in the lake when it was being used as a refuse site for materials scrapped from Eisenhower's Interstate Highway project.



I have some more favorites from later in their career, but just wanted to get the discussion started.


Title: Re: The Political Songs
Post by: Paulos on January 27, 2012, 01:35:06 AM
What'chu talkin' 'bout KokoNo?


Title: Re: The Political Songs
Post by: hypehat on January 27, 2012, 01:41:19 AM
Funnily enough, one of their more obvious political songs, Student Demonstration Time, is actually a thinly veiled warning from Mike Love that, should he ever find himself on a college campus in America, he will turn anyone who does not 'stay outta sight' into a 'bachelor of bullets'.


Title: Re: The Political Songs
Post by: KokoNO on January 27, 2012, 01:43:19 AM
Hence the working title, "Student Obliteration Time"


Title: Re: The Political Songs
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on January 27, 2012, 02:08:30 AM
Just wondering what some of you think are the band's best political songs. Here's my take:


Surfers Rule - This track is obviously a statement sent back at Duane Eddy who had been drafted and decried that "surfers are squares" before being killed in Korea. A blunt, well-written statement from a band about to have the US Government shaking in their boots. "It's a GENUINE fact that the surfers rule..."


Pom, Pom Play Girl - This classic tale about the burgeoning women's rights and sexual movement from Carl's point of view of a young man masturbating to Playboy centerfolds was certainly shocking for its era, but what made it so profound was the gender bending "Play Girl" meaning that posing nude for a magazine could actually be empowering or that Carl was down with posing for Playgirl....which didn't even exist yet, I believe. Forward thinking crusaders? Yes.


Salt Lake City - What many don't know is that the proceeds of this song went to the Salt Lake Preservation Fund which was set up in 1961 to counteract the endless amount of waste that had been dumped in the lake when it was being used as a refuse site for materials scrapped from Eisenhower's Interstate Highway project.



I have some more favorites from later in their career, but just wanted to get the discussion started.

I feel the evidence that you are, in reality, ghost returned, is piling up like snow in a blizzard.  ;D


Title: Re: The Political Songs
Post by: Denny's Drums on January 27, 2012, 04:10:24 AM
Carry Me Home is told from the point of view of a soldier in Vietnam which could be considered political or anti-war.


Title: Re: The Political Songs
Post by: The Shift on January 27, 2012, 05:46:23 AM
Just wondering what some of you think are the band's best political songs. Here's my take:


Surfers Rule - This track is obviously a statement sent back at Duane Eddy who had been drafted and decried that "surfers are squares" before being killed in Korea. A blunt, well-written statement from a band about to have the US Government shaking in their boots. "It's a GENUINE fact that the surfers rule..."


Pom, Pom Play Girl - This classic tale about the burgeoning women's rights and sexual movement from Carl's point of view of a young man masturbating to Playboy centerfolds was certainly shocking for its era, but what made it so profound was the gender bending "Play Girl" meaning that posing nude for a magazine could actually be empowering or that Carl was down with posing for Playgirl....which didn't even exist yet, I believe. Forward thinking crusaders? Yes.


Salt Lake City - What many don't know is that the proceeds of this song went to the Salt Lake Preservation Fund which was set up in 1961 to counteract the endless amount of waste that had been dumped in the lake when it was being used as a refuse site for materials scrapped from Eisenhower's Interstate Highway project.



I have some more favorites from later in their career, but just wanted to get the discussion started.

I feel the evidence that you are, in reality, ghost returned, is piling up like snow in a blizzard.  ;D

I agree and at this stage am delighted to welcome him back.

One of this board's shortcomings is that we have no way of telling whether a poster has dual identities; I'm sure the mods have the ability to check ISPs etc though, so maybe we'll have a great unveiling soon.

I'd prefer it was all kept secretive though as I'd like to retain my "AGD" and "mikie" pseudonyms a little longer.


Title: Re: The Political Songs
Post by: filledeplage on January 27, 2012, 06:26:21 AM
Don't Go Near the Water

The Trader

Summer in Paradise

Heroes and Villains

Student Demostration Time

It's About Time







Title: Re: The Political Songs
Post by: PongHit on January 27, 2012, 08:46:57 AM

"A Day In The Life Of A Tree."


Title: Re: The Political Songs
Post by: Alex on January 27, 2012, 09:24:28 AM
Summer in Paradise  :lol :lol


Title: Re: The Political Songs
Post by: filledeplage on January 27, 2012, 09:29:10 AM

"A Day In The Life Of A Tree."

Lookin' at Tomorrow


Title: Re: The Political Songs
Post by: Iron Horse-Apples on January 28, 2012, 12:20:02 PM
Just wondering what some of you think are the band's best political songs. Here's my take:


Surfers Rule - This track is obviously a statement sent back at Duane Eddy who had been drafted and decried that "surfers are squares" before being killed in Korea. A blunt, well-written statement from a band about to have the US Government shaking in their boots. "It's a GENUINE fact that the surfers rule..."


Pom, Pom Play Girl - This classic tale about the burgeoning women's rights and sexual movement from Carl's point of view of a young man masturbating to Playboy centerfolds was certainly shocking for its era, but what made it so profound was the gender bending "Play Girl" meaning that posing nude for a magazine could actually be empowering or that Carl was down with posing for Playgirl....which didn't even exist yet, I believe. Forward thinking crusaders? Yes.


Salt Lake City - What many don't know is that the proceeds of this song went to the Salt Lake Preservation Fund which was set up in 1961 to counteract the endless amount of waste that had been dumped in the lake when it was being used as a refuse site for materials scrapped from Eisenhower's Interstate Highway project.



I have some more favorites from later in their career, but just wanted to get the discussion started.

I feel the evidence that you are, in reality, ghost returned, is piling up like snow in a blizzard.  ;D

I agree and at this stage am delighted to welcome him back.

One of this board's shortcomings is that we have no way of telling whether a poster has dual identities; I'm sure the mods have the ability to check ISPs etc though, so maybe we'll have a great unveiling soon.

I'd prefer it was all kept secretive though as I'd like to retain my "AGD" and "mikie" pseudonyms a little longer.

What you have as yet failed to realize John, is that apart from AGD and Mikie, I am actually everyone else on this board, and this is all just a plot to freak you out. This is no joke, or is it?


Title: Re: The Political Songs
Post by: KokoNO on January 28, 2012, 10:16:54 PM
Wait, WHATTTTTTTTTT? Iron Horse-Apples, I thought I was YOU!   :-\


Title: Re: The Political Songs
Post by: Denny's Drums on January 28, 2012, 10:29:35 PM
Everybody Wants To Live


Title: Re: The Political Songs
Post by: BillA on January 28, 2012, 11:13:14 PM
Shortnin' Bread


Title: Re: The Political Songs
Post by: Ron on January 29, 2012, 08:20:12 AM
Political songs almost always suck.  Mixing god-given talent, with man-made politics is a bad idea. 


Title: Re: The Political Songs
Post by: filledeplage on January 29, 2012, 08:28:40 AM
Political songs almost always suck.  Mixing god-given talent, with man-made politics is a bad idea. 


Music is a powerful tool to change and enlighten all of society, not just those fortunate enough to be blessed with higher education. 

The 60's and 70's are all about the political landscape being shaped by music.  Anti-war, pro-evironment, race relations, equal rights...and so on...

 


Title: Re: The Political Songs
Post by: Denny's Drums on January 29, 2012, 08:32:45 AM
The 60's and 70's are all about the political landscape being shaped by music.  Anti-war, pro-evironment, race relations, equal rights

One of my favorite Beatles songs Blackbird is about the civil rights movement.


Title: Re: The Political Songs
Post by: I. Spaceman on January 29, 2012, 08:41:45 AM
Political songs almost always suck.  Mixing god-given talent, with man-made politics is a bad idea. 

Dylan wrote some pretty great ones.


Title: Re: The Political Songs
Post by: Chocolate Shake Man on January 29, 2012, 09:10:40 AM
Political songs almost always suck.  Mixing god-given talent, with man-made politics is a bad idea. 

Dylan wrote some pretty great ones.

As did a lot of the folkies, Marvin Gaye, Stevie Wonder, etc.


Title: Re: The Political Songs
Post by: the captain on January 29, 2012, 10:50:01 AM
Political songs almost always suck.  Mixing god-given talent, with man-made politics is a bad idea. 

They only suck to the people who don't like the songs, the politics therein, the personalities of the performers, or some combination thereof. But plenty of people obviously have found a lot of value, validation, etc. in them. I think it's safe to say that pretty much every aspect of life is represented in art. The good news is that people who are more interested in political songs can find them, and similarly, those more interested in silly fun, romance, anger, relaxation, escape, or anything else can find that, too.


Title: Re: The Political Songs
Post by: Mahalo on January 29, 2012, 11:04:03 AM
That was well said. However, one reason why I love the BB's so much is because they rarely stray into the politcal arena.

There are truly much more pertinent issues that need to be addressed- Where the Girls on the Beach are, why The Beach Boys Love You, the need to express the joys of Friendship, and the list goes on and on...


Title: Re: The Political Songs
Post by: RadBooley on January 29, 2012, 11:53:19 AM
Political songs almost always suck.  Mixing god-given talent, with man-made politics is a bad idea. 

Dylan wrote some pretty great ones.

As did a lot of the folkies, Marvin Gaye, Stevie Wonder, etc.
Don't forget Phil Ochs!