The Smiley Smile Message Board

Smiley Smile Stuff => General On Topic Discussions => Topic started by: Ovi on January 15, 2012, 02:41:54 PM



Title: Step Up and Step Down
Post by: Ovi on January 15, 2012, 02:41:54 PM
What was the biggest step up and step down for the boys as albums?


Title: Re: Step Up and Step Down
Post by: Manchini on January 15, 2012, 04:18:23 PM
Their biggest step up in my opinion was "Today!" from "All Summer Long" and the Xmas album.
I'm not even going to bother including anything after 1985, but their biggest step down for me is "Party" following "Summer Days..."

I know plenty of people disagree, but I actually think their albums are consistently good through the '70s and up thru "Keepin' the Summer Alive."  A case could easily be made for "BB85" being their biggest step down, but I listen to that more than "Party," so my answer stays the same.


Title: Re: Step Up and Step Down
Post by: LetHimRun on January 15, 2012, 05:11:53 PM
I don't think you can count Party!. That was a stop-gap to release something to appease Capitol for Christmas and allow Brian to keep working on Pet Sounds.

Today! came out in March of '65 and then they cranked out Summer Days by July of '65. If they hadn't of released Party! (November '65), then they wouldn't have had an album released for 10 months. Party! was never meant to be a step up or even a try at it.

I do agree their biggest step up was from ALS to Today. Their biggest step down for me was Holland to 15 Big Ones.


Title: Re: Step Up and Step Down
Post by: Summertime Blooz on January 15, 2012, 10:24:28 PM
Step down is unquestionably Pet Sounds to Smiley Smile. Step up- I'll go with Summer Days (which I like a lot) to Pet Sounds because Pet Sounds just belongs to another level separate from all the other albums.


Title: Re: Step Up and Step Down
Post by: Manchini on January 16, 2012, 09:08:37 AM
I don't think you can count Party!. That was a stop-gap to release something to appease Capitol for Christmas and allow Brian to keep working on Pet Sounds.

Today! came out in March of '65 and then they cranked out Summer Days by July of '65. If they hadn't of released Party! (November '65), then they wouldn't have had an album released for 10 months. Party! was never meant to be a step up or even a try at it.

Good point, and I wouldn't count it as an effort in the same regard as their other albums, just like I wouldn't consider a live album in the same regard.  However, since it was newly recorded studio work, I have to see it as part of their body of work.  For me, it's a blemish because it's got some bland covers I really don't care for.  Instead of those Beatles tunes and "Barbara Ann" I'd actually rather just have an album of new acoustic versions of their own songs, as silly as that sounds.


Title: Re: Step Up and Step Down
Post by: Curtis Leon on January 16, 2012, 09:17:42 AM
Step Ups - Shut Down Vol. 2 to All Summer Long, All Summer Long to Today, Summer Days to Pet Sounds

Step Downs - Holland to 15 Big Ones, Love You to MIU, Still Crusin' to Summer in Paradise (from absolutely terrible to nightmarish).


Title: Re: Step Up and Step Down
Post by: Eric Aniversario on January 16, 2012, 10:13:10 AM
Step Down - by far Holland to 15 Big Ones

Step Up - Summer Love Songs to The Smile Sessions


Title: Re: Step Up and Step Down
Post by: Tord on January 16, 2012, 06:35:16 PM
Step up: Surfin' Safari to Surfin' USA
Step Down: Smiley Smile to Wild Honey


Title: Re: Step Up and Step Down
Post by: MyGlove on January 17, 2012, 12:22:37 AM
step down - holland to 15 big ones
step up - shut down to all summer long


Title: Re: Step Up and Step Down
Post by: Alan Smith on January 17, 2012, 12:45:17 AM
Step up - 15 big ones to Love You
Step Down - Pet Sounds to Smiley Smile (not sayin' I don't like it, tho)


Title: Re: Step Up and Step Down
Post by: Slow In Brain on January 17, 2012, 02:54:08 AM
Step up - So Tough to Holland

Step down - BB 85 to Stll Cruisin


Title: Re: Step Up and Step Down
Post by: Magic Transistor Radio on January 17, 2012, 07:27:15 AM
steps up:
 All Summer Long to Today
Party to Pet Sounds
 So Tough to Holland
 15 Big Ones to Love You

steps down:
 Summer Days to Party
 Pet Sounds to Smiley
Holland to 15 Big Ones