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Anytime i'd ask someone who had a grater impact on music the usa or uk? they always say the uk :/
I like both and i think we all agree but what place do you think have the best artists/bands?
(I know i left out a shitload of artists/bands...and i know you guys ar tired of my "vs." posts) lol


USA:
Beach Boys
Chuck Berry
Marvin Gaye
Michael Jackson
Elvis Presley
Prince
Nirvana
The Doors
The Byrds
Motown(All the Groups)
Bob Dylan
Stevie Wonder
The Ramones
Jimi Hendrix (Even though his band was british)
James Brown
Ray Charles
Buddy Holly

UK:
The Beatles
The Kinks
Pink Floyd
Led Zeppelin
Donovan
Radiohead
The Who
The Zombies
Amy Winehouse
Queen
David Bowie
The Rolling Stones
The Clash
Elton John
The Smiths
Sex Pistols
Black Sabbath

Amy Whinehouse? Elton John?...Joy Division should be on that list....

Also, maybe it should be  USA/UK vs the Rest of the World!!!

Oh snaps I forgot Joy Division .I wish Ian Curtis never killed himself they could've made so many more great albums. :)

FWIW, America wins for Motown and the Beach Boys...hands down. Besides, Rock n' Roll is an American phenomena. HOWEVER, the UK really can Rock when they want to....nowadays America exports American Idol, GaGa, cRap, and all sorts of merda to the rest of the world....so I turn to... Mozart....

Right now music is in a state of emergency because all the crap thats promoted which they call "music".
Lady Gaga,Katy Perry,Rap,Techno,Dubstep,Adele,Modern Rock :/..
At least we can always block that sh*t out of our mind and play some classic music :)

Growing up in the Antipodes meant that I listened and apprciated both UK and USA.

Still add to the UK list The Stranglers, Gerry Rafferty...

...on the USA list the Wall of Sound, Frank Sinatra,Hank Wiilams...

I was thinking of adding Phil Spector but i didnt know if it was appropiate. lol

Why does it matter where great music is from?

What matters is great music and a legacy behind it.

The legacy is the music transcending boundaries and making an impact all over the world.

I can't stand the tiresome cliche of calling rap "crap".

All well...gotta keep it clean.  ;)

Touche :)

Ok  the rappers that are actually making good music are Common,Nas,Panacea. That's all i can come up with for right now  so you give me some examples.

Two words: Little Richard.

Your friends are all idiots.

Rock & Roll
Jazz
Blues
Hip Hop
R&B
Country
Disco

ALL created in the good old U.S.A.  The good bands from the UK are only good because they make it in the USA.  If they never make it in the USA, they're not considered good.

Other things the USA is better at than the UK:

Starting Wars
Ending Wars
Posting ridiculously obnoxious posts on smileysmile.net ( :) )
Making movies people want to see
making clothes people want to wear
inventing indoor plumbing
tooth care
Hot women
Rednecks, Homosexuals, Immigrants, Illegal Immigrants, Hillbillies, Cajuns, Texans, Liberals, Conservatives, etc. all living together, hating each other, but in general resisting the urge to kill each other.

Nothing quite as great or as bad as the USA, that's why the USA has had a bigger impact on the music of the world.  The only music we didn't pioneer that's worth a sh*t was pioneered before we existed. 

More shocking than that is how everyone calls Adele crap.  I'll never understand that one.  She's fantastic. 

Common and Nas aren't really doing anything these days, so if you're going to name guys that have been around awhile, tons of great rap artists.  Right now the trend is towards pretty ridiculous stuff but that's kind of the point.  If the music is fun I can get into a lot of it.  I like a lot of the hardcore rap too, but it's more like watching a movie than anything you'll learn from. 

If you take a really good hardcore rapper like Scarface, it's hard not to consider that art.  Go download "I Seen a Man Die" by Scarface and tell me that's not good music. 

Outkast. Big Boi's solo album last year also kicks a metric tonne of ass.

I'm still trying to figure out why/how we (the U.S.) have better Homosexuals than the U.K. :)

I guess i don't like her music cuz majority of it is boring :/..i'm more of an amy winehouse listener. matter of fact i'm not sexist but she's the only woman i'll listen to.

Now Scarface is the one that hasn't been around for years lol..and i heard that song b4 and it's a down south classic.

I wish andre 3000 came back :) well at least officially,.

Coolios "My Soul" still sound good

What about music of the Caribbean? As rich and diverse as anything from the US or UK  :afro :hat

Apart from the African influence I'd say that America had quite a considerable musical influence from the celtic shores of Ireland.

Well DUH, but I don't see any Celtics that look like B.B. King.  Mute it all you want, the USA completely *OWNS* the music scene, and has for 100 years. 

"But... But"

But sh*t.  USA Rocks. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3wgoaONzwo&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3wgoaONzwo&feature=related)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJkeVkYq8Es

Historically, the most powerful places have had the strongest arts cultures - it has less to do with being genetically disposed or anything like that. It has to do with power and, now, wealth.

Neither. Brazil.

If we're talking about popular western music of the last 60 years, then I prefer to look at it this way. It was the USA that mined the diamond, and the UK that polished it.