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I don't recall ever coming across this before, searches turn up nothing but Japanese links from 2012:

http://www.giginjapan.com/beach-boys-the-memphis-tennessee-paradise/

Not particularly a period in the bands career I'm interested in but I've become compulsive about soundboards.

I don't see no link on that site. Maybe someone should pm me and I will try everything I can to get that bad, bad site offline.....  :police:

very good recording.....

how is that accessed ???

he he he...  ;D

Downloaded this last week and it's a good enough recording but the performances are unusual: most songs sped up...completely losing the groove on most of them.  Carl is in fine voice with a wonderful version of "I Can Hear Music"...clear as a bell...just splendid. 

what about SOS?

Yup he's great on SOS too but I see "I Can Hear Music" as a tougher song to sing...a much higher key with Carl reaching to almost the roof of his range...so it was great to hear how well he sang it on a very clear sounding recording. 

This also has an excellent version of "Little Honda", which I think is a concert rarity for the Beach Boys... although I have heard it performed by Mike's band in recent years. There's also a Memphis show from the same year, with the exact same setlist.

That Memphis Show is interesting because the instruments, especially Drums, are really low, so sometimes it's almost like an acapella concert. Man, could Matt Jardine wail on those leads (Don't worry baby, Warmth of the sun)!

Once again my stuff is in storage but id swear i have that show on boot video ..Does anybody here know anything about that.?. Its a video that is filmed close to the stage and some of the shots are from the big screen in back. Or am i just having a senior moment.?CW is on the far left of stage..

Sure wish I had cd"s of this show,,Or the last time i saw BB with Carl,..Hot August nites.August1997 Reno Nevada.. Carl said  How much he liked singin ICHM..SOS...Weird thing is.No amps on stage.Guitar solo"s pre recorded..He didnt play the solo"s..He looked like he weighed 275 lbs...No beard.Hair very Fuzzy..He didnt sit untill Encore..He was very positive..ALIVE+ Happy..!soundboard  guy told me he was healthy..I thought with cancer fat was healthy.Guess sound guy was wrong.! GOD bless CW.

He had no beard? Wow. That's the first time I've ever read that he lost his beard during that time. It was probably the chemo(sp?). I still wonder if there are any audience videos from 1997 with him. It doesn't seem like any have circulated.

What I hate about 90s Beach Boys and I can't understand Carl let it happen is the fast tempo of the intro to California Girls. The song itself is slower than the intro. It sounds terrible. I'm glad non of the Beach Boys Bands today play it that way

Yes, I've looked long and hard for videos of Carl's last appearances. If they exist they're not on the web.

Yup Rocker, that's probably when I first noticed the issue.  Speeding up the songs don't serve the songs very well at all....except maybe the "heavier" songs like "Fun, Fun, Fun" or "Surfin USA."  But not the ones that are heavy on melody.

The only footage I've ever seen of a Beach Boys show with Carl in 1997 is this quick few seconds here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoaZVi5TZ-8 I think you can just barely see him on the far right behind Mike.

I saw BB Reno Nevada August 1997..I bought a ticket and i was more than half way back.Concert started so i started hangin in the walk aisle near soundboard..Got thrown out twice in 20 minutes.Some guy walks up to me + says give me 20.00 bucks + you can sit next to me..WELL. I was in the 1st 20 rows..Now the concert costs me 70-80 bucks.NO problem..I got a real close look at CW..No beard..Looked like wig on his head..At least 275 lbs or more..And he looked totally healthy + happy..!! Same old Carl workin his way back to good health,.Ive known people who died of cancer..That loose weight + waste away..CW didnt look like that.He looked like he should be on a diet..I was so HAPPY to see he was gonna survive..Soundboard guy talked to me + it was ALL Positive..,I bought couple of tshirts and walked away + drove to Vancouver thinkin CW was gonna live.When i went to Thousand Oaks show couple months later.He wasnt there.And he died a couple months later..IMHO..Please dont attack me....I think he shouldnt have toured stayed home + chilled and got well..Once he got sick..Take care off your body + soul..But he didnt..WHY..? I dont know.Maybe he knew something +he didnt tell anyone else but his wife.ALAN has stated in a couple of interviews in Goldmine.Al was shocked when he died.!.Im only reporting what i saw + what soundboard guy told me.. In fact from the boot videos i have.CW looks sick in 1995 and before even..Once his hair gets fuzzy + thin i kinda wonder.. And there was NO amps on stage anywhere..Soundboard stage left.Guitar solo"s pre recorded..CW sat a couple of times but not that much..He sang ICHM + SOS..Then sat. Then sat beginning of encore then got up at end..The dude sang like a little bird in a tree..Soulful + Sweet..He was there to the end..GOD bless CW..! I miss you..Paul

Can someone else confirm this "no amps on stage"/"guitar solos pre-recorded" thing? Mr. Wilson's stories are the first I've ever heard of that.

I've also read about the pre-recorded guitar solo's. Maybe it was done to help Carl out?

I've seen one picture of Carl in concert in 1997 where it looked like his beard was a wig.

After listening to this there's just one thin I can say: wow, I didn't realize how bored and out of shape they did sound ! Of course there are the obvious high points like Matt Jardine's leads or Carl on "Sail on sailor" but all in all they sound used up and like no one really wanted to be there. Every Beach Boy - including Carl - sounds like he just got out of bed and didn't even warm up. Mike's voice is ultra nasal, Al's cracks up (much more than nowadays). The band sounds lame and mostly uninspired and the sound effects and synthetic strings/horns are just terrible (back then they probably were up-to-date). As I said there are some really high points but all three Beach Boy bands we have today sound so much better than this band. And each of the boys sounds better as well (not sure about Bruce).

Anyway, if someone hasn't seen it yet, these two appearances were mentioned:

Little Deuce Coupse on Letterman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XePoS9ve7UI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XePoS9ve7UI)


On Regis and Kathie Lee
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ySCOM9UeOE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ySCOM9UeOE)


I hope this year will also bring appearances on Letterman, etc.

Thanks, Rocker - I really enjoyed that Kathie Lee and "what's his name?" clip...

 And, I enjoy Stars and Stripes..."Leaning" Carl looked so tired...but, gave it his all for those two numbers...

Thanks, again!  ;)

Last time I saw the band with Carl was August 3 or 4 1997 at the Glen Helen pavilion just outside of LA.  Long story I won't go into, but I actually rode into the venue on the Beach Boys' bus, just across the aisle (3 feet?) from Carl and Gina sitting next to me. The entire band except for Mike was on the bus. Mike had arrived separately with Elliott Lott. Chatted with Carl VERY briefly, much more briefly than in past years, but he seemed in good spirits.  I will say that Gina was in exceptionally good spirits, joking and laughing.  Carl was obviously uncomfortable and very bloated from the chemo treatment.  He did in fact have his beard at that time. He stood for California Girls, then sat.  He then stood for SOS and GOK, but sat the rest of the show.  His doctors from UCLA were at the show and Carl acknowledged and thanked them for "saving my life" just before launching into GOK. Being LA, there were many backstage that night within the BB extended family, and the word was indeed that he was going to make it.  As always, he sounded amazing.  

Thanks for that...Would that they had been correct about Carl's condition...saw him June, '97 and just had that sinking feeling...Carl was on a stool and the concert had the slow motion feeling of a "78 rpm being played at 33 rpm" while the audience held its collective breath...Clearly the shows were tailored to his physical requirements at the time...

What a privilege that he was amongst us...

Absolutely.  Besides having the best voice I have ever heard, he was gracious to a fault. He ALWAYS took time for the fans, and those who just wanted a minute with him.  He never said no to anyone that I ever saw, even when he was running late (which was almost always), or suffering from the effects of a deadly disease. He had that way of knowing this might be the highlight of someone's life, just getting a minute with Carl Wilson, and he was gracious to those people (like me), always thanking US which I found ironic.  I say this after meeting Carl not once, but many times over the years, in many different situations, so he was consistent in his demeanor. He was a great guy, one person I wish  everybody on this board had the chance to meet.

Where is the download link?

Somehow I always get the feeling that if Audree hadn't passed away during his illness, Carl would still be with us.

I agree with ..Southbay + Filldepage.. AEGIR .i would never lie on this board.Everything i posted is fact,,CW had no beard .BUT. It did appear that he was tryin to grow his beard back.His face was scruffy so to speak..I would never mislead anyone here..The best BB board on the planet.Im tryin to state fact + make sure the BB legend is correct..And i was totally sober for the 97 show..i WAS ON A LOAD And had to get to Vancouver Wa. to deliver freight The next morning i had 36 hrs to get there and deliver load..Reno is a long way from Vancouver..In fact i took a taxi from the truck stop + back + left the rig at truck stop.I drove out of route thinking this might be the last time i see CW with BB..Unfortunately i was correct..Paul

How so? Wasn't he pretty much terminal before she died?

Sad

I didn't even know he was ill, so his death was a huge shock to me.

I just looked at the crazy funny YouTube with the roadies dressed as hula girls...and don't doubt you for a minute.  I saw them that same week of that video whose link is on page one of this thread.  But, my pictures are awful.  No telephoto lens and a Brand X camera.  I'd love to see some footage of that season.  We have much to be grateful for, that he put on his shoes, when he could have been relaxing in some paradise location, but chose to say goodbye to us.  Courage defined.

It was a  mob scene at the stage, with people clamoring to get one last look at that angel of a man.  The people were about 10 deep and I might have been thrown out, myself.   :lol

What you can see is everyone who is near the stage clapping for him.  Carl does still have some kind of beard, and hair, shorter than his usually glossy locks.  You saw him nearly 2 months later, and much could have changed.   

Courage defined..GREAT quote.! With all due respect to you i think Carl would have lived longer if he had bowed out of the 97 tour..What.  is really weird is this..In the 70"all of BB bought property in Hawaii.. AS retirement property.2 of them never got to retire there..I suspect that property has been sold by now

I think that perhaps Carl would have been with us longer if he had stayed at home resting as apposed to touring. But the sad fact is that lung cancer is a pretty serious thing no matter what stage it may be in. Once it spreads to the brain, then that's pretty much it. I think if Carl had stayed home he may have made it to late 1998 or maybe 1999, but most likely not much longer. Don't forget that it's been rumored that something was very wrong with Carl as far back as 1995. He looked pretty ill at the Farm Aid show from that year.

Are there even any pictures of Carl during those last few tours?

I've only seen three. Out of those three, only two of them seem to circulate on the internet.