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Anyone else hear this version? Anyone else nearly sh*t themselves? Any explanation as to what that is, if it was actually part of the original recording or was something someone did later?

Good lord, I'm having a heart attack. Scared the bajeezus out of me.

 ??? Where did you hear this?

It's on Disc 4 of the Sea of Tunes Beach Boys Party! Sessions Stereo Mix.

What do you mean "version". I have an original Party box set and it's on there. To the best of my knowledge, this anomaly is on ALL of the discs. It's too bad really. Takes away from an otherwise flawless stereo mix of the album.

 

Any story as to what in the hell it is? I mean was this something a bootlegger did? Frickin' o god. Whoever created the dreaded b**tl*g surely needs to pay my hospital bill.

Also, isn't the Hawthorne take in stereo?

What's with all the teenage girly dramatics?  How old are you?

Sitting. Enjoying a nice, calm Beach Boys song. The track is quiet. Suddenly, out of the left channel, a child screaming "KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL"

A tad unsettling if you're not expecting it, y'know?

Also, way to be sexist, Michael.

Yes it is.  It's unexpected and annoying.  It's probably the bootlegger's kid (sounds Asian) yelling into an open microphone and somebody didn't realize the recorder was switched on to "record". Obviously not very good quality control as I think that "edit" could have been corrected if the bootlegger had taken the time to play it back and realize the obvious mistake.

Whenever I want to listen to the Party! album, I pull this disc out.  Superb audio quality (with exception to the kid's brief yelling).

I have a vague memory of this...I think I blocked it out of my mind immediately after I heard it, because I had forgotten about it completely!  Gonna try to find it in my collection...

The Party SOT is one of the best things I have, I listen more to those sessions than the actual album. Beautiful, fly-on-the-wall material and a glimpse into how much of a pain that group of guys could be together in the studio but how great the music sounded when they actually got down to playing it.

And that child's voice freaked me out many times when I forgot where it was as I was listening with headphones. I'd also like to know who or what did that...

I really want to hear this for some reason.  ;D It's not on YouTube as far as I can tell. You would think that something like this would have been  talked about more often on here, but this is the first time I've read about it.

At first this sounds like a Snopes entry.

Then you go and listen to it and HOLY sh*t!

I just heard it. That was...weird.  :o The kid actually sounded upset. It kind of makes you wonder what was going on in that house.

Just listened to it...I do remember it now...it doesn't sound like an asian kid though...and the kid sounds no older than 3.  Weird stuff.

It can be found on YouTube, for those who don't have it.

Got a link to save some time?

If you have the SOT Party! boot, then you can listen to it, Bgas!

What a weird thing to show up on a bootleg, will watch out for this if I ever get into SOT collecting.

Sure I can; but what of the ones that don't? A youtube link would be ever so helpful. and it's SO much easier to listen on youtube than dig thru umpteen hundred CDs( that I don't think I ever listened to in the first place)

Someone's gotta put this on youtube, sounds like it'd be funny as hell (in a serial killer kind of way)   :lol

I have to hear this  :lol

I just can't get the name 'M*ns*n' out of my mind right now. Can he do astral things to bootleggers' premises out of jail?  :o

only with red wine

 :thumbsup

Why, Shady?  You already burnt out listening to the SMiLE Sessions that you've been anticipating for months?

Naw, it ain't funny at all.  It ruins a good song. Sonically the best version of the Party album to date and it f**cked up the song. Maybe a couple of you Smile-o-Philes that have been editing Smile tracks for forever and a day could fix this.

Am I the only one a little surprised that more people haven't heard this already, before this thread? If we're on this general topic, how about the taped conversation on another sot where you can hear the "Little Girl I Once Knew" session bleeding through as Brian taped over it to record a meaningless chat?

Well I just listened, It wasn't nearly as shocking because I knew it was coming but if heard something like that out of the blue it could be the end of me

The Hawthorne edit does the job well enough, really.

Yeah, you know I figured that ALL collectors on this board worth their weight in gold would have immediately known about this. I mean, this SOT bootleg has been circulating since 1999! And if you like the SMiLE Sessions and the Pet Sounds Sessions, then you're SURE to like the SOT sessions!! Collect 'em all! Trade 'em with your friends! There's what, 21 volumes? Essential listening!

Not collectors, but fans! Absolutely essential! Although even in my obsessiveness I haven't listened to the ones where there isn't much studio chatter, interaction between musicians, or fly-on-the-wall type of material. I'm just not that interested in hearing a different mix of Chug-A-Lug, or whatever...

Yeah, there you go!  Forgot about that one.  Swap the SOT version with the stereo version on Hawthorne and you're dancin'. Plus all those SOT Party covers and listen to what Mike Love sounds like after having a few cervezas! Listen to Dean Torrence and Billy Hinsche join them! Various versions of Barbara Ann. Riot In Cell Block #9! Funny Stones and Sonny & Cher and Dylan covers. All kindsa outtakes - some that are keepers. Listen to Brian say, "C'mon, you asssholes!" as he tries to get them so sing a song.

Only got the SOT of Sacramento live tapes, which show the energy and excitement of a Beach Boys show in 1964. The Beach Boys could rock harder live than The Beatles any day. :rock

Well, uh...........I, uh..........I dunno about that..........  ;D

I think even Brian would disagree with you there. They could really rock of course, but if you remember, he took some of those Sacramento concert tapes and went back to the studio to "touch them up". Yeah, they could rock, I don't disagree with you there, but as far as musicianship......Brian even said that in those early days that their live shows were shaky.

Agree with the shaky musicianship at times, but listening to the SOT was an eye opening experience after hearing the doctered album that came out. I just like the almost proto-punk sound on songs like Papa-Oom-Mow-Mow as they play with such energy and power.

Yeah, raw energy. All balls out. Especially stuff like "Let's Go Trippin'" and "Johnny-B-Goode". And their version of the "What'd I Say".  Sucker cooks, eh?

I heard the KILL KILL KILL a couple years back, and like several others here, got really creeped out...but had forgotten all about it until I saw this thread.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2d2DgH-gNKc&feature=channel_video_title (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2d2DgH-gNKc&feature=channel_video_title)

Man I probably would have sh.i.t my pants if I wasn't expecting that.

Color me also very surprised that so many Beach Boys fans aren't familiar with the SOT material.

Geeez, some people around here are starting to sound like Hoffman snobs!   :o

Admittedly I don't know every little thing about the BBs.  I like the fact that I can get on here and learn something new about them nearly every day.  I've heard some of the SOT material, but not all of it.  I don't think that excludes me from being a BBs fan.

Thanxx. A bit Startling, but that would be all. Out of place fer sure. 


OK, you're still a fan, I'm still a fan ( I think)

T'be fair, I only got into the band about four years ago, and there's an absolutely massive amount of bootlegs etc. to dig through and sometimes listening to 20 takes of the "Cabin Essence" verse featuring sneezing man gets exhausting, so y'gotta space this stuff out a bit.

I only recently found the complete SOT 1-20 in FLAC, so I've been going through it a bit as I've been sorting and tagging it (which is also extremely exhausting).

I only have the first three discs of Unsurpassed Masters 10, guess I had to get up and leave when I was downloading the set and never got around to downloading the fourth disc. I listened to the first three pretty regularly for awhile.

Still need to track down the SOT sets from the dark corners of the internet or PM people gradually for the material

of all the Sot's, the Party! discs are the ones I've probably listened to the least...Apart from There's No Other and Devoted to You, I don't really care at all for those tapes...

what a strange thing this is.   :o

I have SOT Party and I have listened to it, but I never paid any attention to the last disk - I was more interested in the session material on the previous disks.

And Charlie blamed Helter Skelter??

I got the Party box. I remember the day it arrived in the mail. I seemed to have forgotten about this. I tended to neglect the "stereo" discs when it came to SOT. They were kinda lame. Not real stereo.

Where is that Little Girl bleed through mentioned above? I need to review.

What the hell are you talking about? The Party stereo disc isn't lame at all. It sounds great!

It's one of the Psychedelic Talk tracks, on the same SOT as the Honeys joke-telling sessions. It's Brian talking with a few people, Marilyn serving food, and the bleed-through under all of that stuff is Little Girl I Once Knew, the takes Brian taped over.

Perhaps this is just one of Brian's "voices" he heard on occasion.

Those studio mic's were so good then, they could pick up ANYTHING.

 :-D

I wonder if that voice might have not been on the original session tapes -- maybe Scott (Dennis's kid) yelling "CAROL!.....CAROL!...."

After all, why would it have been added by a bootlegger? And I don't buy the open mic story...if a bootlegger is mastering the thing, there would be no microphones involved; just plugging the tape outputs into the input of whatever digital device was used to make the final master.

"not real stereo"?? Define "real" then. Different sounds in different sides = stereo.

If you play the original album at the same spot, you'll hear that the background chatter is mixed out at this point. Where the laughter returns right after "kill kill kill" it is mixed back up. I'd bet it was done during the background chatter track recording and Brian mixed it out, similar to "she's got the biggest ass you've ever seen" on "Amusements Parks USA"

Then if not the bootlegger, how the hell else is it going to happen?? The original tape sure didn't come out of the vaults like that! It's the only spot in the whole album that it happens! I've made mistakes like that myself before with my old Teac reel-reel and cassette tape deck. Britz didn't do it! Capitol Mastering didn't do it. The same song was later used on Hawthorne and the entire audio seems intact, right?? So it's an obvious recording mistake! Somebody hit the record switch on the copying deck by mistake when there was a mic attached. Or an old tape with the kid's voice was on the tape already, but that's doubful! Doesn't sound like it was done on purpose or for 'tracking' purposes or anything!

The kid isn't saying "kill kill kill kill"; he's actually saying "cranberry sauce".  :lol

Mooger has a point. The talking/laughing track was added after the fact. So........if that's the case, who's kid had access to the 'chatter' track to record over it at Western? Only one who had a kid was Mike, but it wasn't his.....

Hey Mooger, that point in Amusement Parks was faded out for the final song, but can you hear what Hal Blaine is saying on the SOT disc where it isn't faded out? It's funny! "She's got the biggest.......".  ;D

Mikie, the Hawthorne CA version doesnt have the chatter audio. The only place we can hear the kid and his "killx3" is on the SOT disc. The chatter track sounds like it was recorded onto the finished Party! album lineup (giving the impression the sessions were performed in an unplugged atmosphere). Given the mixout of chatter on the section in question in the official release I reckon it was done on the day and was unintentional.

Update: I'll go and listen to AP-USA now (you typed your response just as I posted mine)

Update #2: Yep you can hear it, very faintly but its there.

Yeah, you're right. Been so long since I listened to the Hawthorne disc that I forgot there's no party chatter on that version of 'Devoted To You'. 

So if it was there all along and Britz edited it out for the final release, I'm surprised he didn't fix it permanately at the time. Plus, what did they use fo the subsequent releases of the Party! album - that edit had to have been fixed.

I was just thinking as to how they would have done that, because you have a dub of the tracks in their album running order. All the different takes and the like would have been edited to get the proper song, so I imagine alot of cutting and splicing. Then it sounds like that tape was played in real-time as the group and guests recorded their party chatter. Someone handed the kid the mike and voila - it's the twerp out of the Shining!

The final master of Party! sounds great considering how much copying and splicing may have been done prior to release.

I don't think anybody "handed the kid the mic" to contribute to the chatter. Don't think the kid was at the studio party. It cuts in so suddenly it sounds like an edit mistake. An external mic turned on by an outside source. Unintentional 'overdub'.

Or.........the bootlegger was recording/copying the Party tape over an existing tape with a recording of his kid and accidently depressed the record button for a few seconds. I dunno how it happened.

An interesting addition is that during the song's tracking session Brian jokes about yelling something during the bridge (he suggests he could do the splits!!).

I had a similar thing happen recently when transferring some of my cassette recordings into audacity.  I forgot my webcam was still connected and the mic was live, so i ended up getting an unintentional overdub.   I didn't realize til  i played it back and suddenly i hear ice clinking in a glass, and some idiot baby talking to someone named Shelly.  At first I was like, "wtf is that???"   Then I figured it out, the clinking glass was mine, the idiot was me, and Shelly is my cat!   :p

I swear I have heard it VERY quietly on the original recording.  I haven't listened to it recently and might not for a while, but i think it's there.

I listened to the official CD again and the chatter track is defeinitely mixed right down in the offending section. Sounds are there before and after but nothing during the moment it sghould appear.

Mooger Booger, did you listen to Amusement Parks on the SOT yet? The disc with the version with the alternate lyrics?

Turn it up and check out what Hal "The Carnival Barker" Blaine is saying.

I'll listen to "Party!" tonight to see if the kid's voice was mixed out of the chatter track for the final release....

The anomolies we hear........are what we all fear.........love and mercy to you and your friends toniiiiiight.

Since folks've been uploading sh*t all willy nilly higgldy piggldy arrr recently, here's an edit of the "kill kill kill" version, but sans "kill kill kill". No more marred stereo Party album imo.

http://www.mediafire.com/?4ddyw98wr5z62t8 (http://www.mediafire.com/?4ddyw98wr5z62t8)

I'm a wimp and would listen to this if I'd read about it when there was light outside, but it's after midnight.     :-\  :violin

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I heard "I buried Mike".

Party! is my favorite of the SOT sets, and the original album is among my favorite albums, period.

Re: "Amusement Parks", it's "she's got the biggest asp..." - an asp is a snake... Stella the Snake Dancer... ya see what they did there ?

Is it real? ;)

I don't.............think..............so................  ;D

Nah, looks like a fake to me.

Well, let's go see her.

costs too much!

It's only a dime folks, one thin dime just one tenth of a dollar.

YOU`LL CRASH AND BURN!