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Title: News Article From 1971: Smile, Radiant Radish, BB's Cartoon???
Post by: guitarfool2002 on November 21, 2011, 10:40:29 AM
If this has been discussed or dissected before, my apologies for being redundant and too lazy to search the archives...but on a search I found a few appearances of this syndicated newspaper article/interview, from different dates depending on which newspaper ran the story. This particular one was July 25, 1971.

Note the Smile references, Johnny Carson, the Radiant radish, the airline commercial we discussed in a thread a few weeks ago...

But my most pressing question is what was the deal with this Beach Boys cartoon? How, when, who, etc.?  Again if this info can be found elsewhere I can't remember reading about a proposed cartoon featuring the Beach Boys in 1971.

(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n295/guitarfool2002/bbarticlejuly1971a.jpg)
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n295/guitarfool2002/bbarticlejuly1971b.jpg)


Title: Re: News Article From 1971: Smile, Radiant Radish, BB's Cartoon???
Post by: Wrightfan on November 21, 2011, 10:50:12 AM
Whoever wrote this is not a great writer at all.


Title: Re: News Article From 1971: Smile, Radiant Radish, BB's Cartoon???
Post by: juggler on November 21, 2011, 11:05:10 AM
One was 'Cavanescence' (sic) intended for an album called 'Smile' that never happened but was a great album.  It was be the album after 'Pet Sounds.'  I don't know if it'll come out as 'Smile' but that music has got to come out."

RIP, Carl.


Title: Re: News Article From 1971: Smile, Radiant Radish, BB's Cartoon???
Post by: guitarfool2002 on November 21, 2011, 11:19:22 AM
Whoever wrote this is not a great writer at all.

Mary Campbell from the Associated Press. And this article was syndicated, so it may have appeared a hundred times or more that week.

Consider too that the typos/errors may have come from each newspaper's own printing department as they ran the article. Or not, I don't know.

Getting past that, any thoughts on the actual content of the piece? :)


Title: Re: News Article From 1971: Smile, Radiant Radish, BB's Cartoon???
Post by: guitarfool2002 on November 22, 2011, 06:54:16 AM
Any info on the Beach Boys cartoon that was supposed to be on television in Fall '71? Anyone? :)


Title: Re: News Article From 1971: Smile, Radiant Radish, BB's Cartoon???
Post by: 37!ws on November 22, 2011, 08:19:10 AM
Here are a coupla pics that someone posted back in 2003....

(http://banana-and-louie.org/images/BBcartoon1.jpg)
(http://banana-and-louie.org/images/bbcartoon2.jpg)


Title: Re: News Article From 1971: Smile, Radiant Radish, BB's Cartoon???
Post by: Summertime Blooz on November 22, 2011, 08:41:30 AM
That's pretty interesting. Carl skips right over Smiley Smile like it never even existed but then reverentially mentions Smile. I guess Carl wasn't a fan of Smiley Smile.


Title: Re: News Article From 1971: Smile, Radiant Radish, BB's Cartoon???
Post by: Mikie on November 22, 2011, 09:23:53 AM
Doesn't look like The Beach Boys in the mid-70's like the caption says.  In fact, it doesn't look like any of them in the 60's or 70's!

And I never knew that Al was going to produce something for Johnny Carson!


Title: Re: News Article From 1971: Smile, Radiant Radish, BB's Cartoon???
Post by: guitarfool2002 on November 22, 2011, 09:41:53 AM
Are those cartoon panels the real thing? If so, two things jump out...what's the deal with the gorilla, and if the cartoon was supposed to be about ecology in some way, they're driving a '32 hot rod with what looks like a major gas-guzzler of an engine. :-D

And Al's character wearing the floppy hat looks like an outcast from the Fat Albert cartoon...


Title: Re: News Article From 1971: Smile, Radiant Radish, BB's Cartoon???
Post by: 37!ws on November 22, 2011, 11:11:54 AM
Animals were the thing in those cartoons....Rosie and Ray and Charles in the Jackson 5ive cartoon; Ping, Pong, and Myron in The Brady Kids...


Title: Re: News Article From 1971: Smile, Radiant Radish, BB's Cartoon???
Post by: anazgnos on November 22, 2011, 11:21:48 AM
Carl: fat, obsessed with food
Brian: the "techie"/gadget guy
Mike: the level-headed peacekeeper
Dennis: the muscle
Al: Zoinks!

I just wanna know how they fingered Carl as the food-obsessed one in that lineup!


Title: Re: News Article From 1971: Smile, Radiant Radish, BB's Cartoon???
Post by: 37!ws on November 22, 2011, 12:34:24 PM
He was the pudgy one in the group, at least before 1976. They probably just jumped to conclusions. (I do, however, appreciate that Carl, ever the gentleman, doesn't have his pinky finger wrapped around the ice cream cone.)

And zoinks indeed -- if Cartoon Al were to stand up straight, he'd be much taller than Brian!!

Looks like Dennis, in the second picture, is playing either a bass or a tenor guitar. Weirdsies. (From what I've heard, though, Dennis actually could play guitar...)

And I think the ape represents Murry. Or The Monkey's Uncle.


Title: Re: News Article From 1971: Smile, Radiant Radish, BB's Cartoon???
Post by: hypehat on November 22, 2011, 12:39:30 PM
Here are a coupla pics that someone posted back in 2003....

(http://banana-and-louie.org/images/BBcartoon1.jpg)


That's.... really worrying


Title: Re: News Article From 1971: Smile, Radiant Radish, BB's Cartoon???
Post by: stack-o-tracks on November 22, 2011, 12:46:49 PM
That's pretty interesting. Carl skips right over Smiley Smile like it never even existed but then reverentially mentions Smile. I guess Carl wasn't a fan of Smiley Smile.

If Wikipedia's not wrong he once called it "a bunt instead of a grand slam."   


Title: Re: News Article From 1971: Smile, Radiant Radish, BB's Cartoon???
Post by: Summertime Blooz on November 22, 2011, 03:22:24 PM
Here are a coupla pics that someone posted back in 2003....

(http://banana-and-louie.org/images/BBcartoon1.jpg)


That's.... really worrying
All I can say is thank God this never got past the drawing board.


Title: Re: News Article From 1971: Smile, Radiant Radish, BB's Cartoon???
Post by: armona on November 22, 2011, 03:41:56 PM

He was the pudgy one in the group, at least before 1976. They probably just jumped to conclusions. (I do, however, appreciate that Carl, ever the gentleman, doesn't have his pinky finger wrapped around the ice cream cone.)

And zoinks indeed -- if Cartoon Al were to stand up straight, he'd be much taller than Brian!!

Looks like Dennis, in the second picture, is playing either a bass or a tenor guitar. Weirdsies. (From what I've heard, though, Dennis actually could play guitar...)

And I think the ape represents Murry. Or The Monkey's Uncle.

Never realized he had the longest legs in the group.



Title: Re: News Article From 1971: Smile, Radiant Radish, BB's Cartoon???
Post by: anazgnos on November 22, 2011, 04:17:57 PM
In the proposed show, the Boys would each be over 200 feet tall, and perform secret missions for the president while balancing the hassles of family and career as the "world's biggest popular music group".  Brian uses his headset to communicate with the ghost of "Murry", who helps the boys out of their various jams.


Title: Re: News Article From 1971: Smile, Radiant Radish, BB's Cartoon???
Post by: bossaroo on November 22, 2011, 04:40:10 PM
 a Beach Boys cartoon wouldve been flipping SWEET!!! They look a little like the way they were drawn on the Endless Summer album.

I wonder if theyd have done their own voices or if folks like Kasey Kasem wouldve been used instead.

Either way it woulda been great for their popularity at the time.


Title: Re: News Article From 1971: Smile, Radiant Radish, BB's Cartoon???
Post by: Mikie on November 22, 2011, 05:10:52 PM
I don't see any resemblance whatsoever between the pictures above and the pictures of the group depicted on the Endless Summer album cover.


Title: Re: News Article From 1971: Smile, Radiant Radish, BB's Cartoon???
Post by: hypehat on November 22, 2011, 05:57:30 PM
Yeah, on Endless Summer they are pretty much beards accessorised with men.


Title: Re: News Article From 1971: Smile, Radiant Radish, BB's Cartoon???
Post by: juggler on November 22, 2011, 06:02:27 PM
Interesting that, very much in keeping with '70s vintage Saturday morning cartoons (e.g., 'Hong Kong Fuey' et al.), Dennis appears to have a black-belt in karate.  

In truth, wasn't Brian the one who tried to karate-chop Elvis?  :lol


Title: Re: News Article From 1971: Smile, Radiant Radish, BB's Cartoon???
Post by: bgas on November 22, 2011, 06:44:39 PM
They all tried to chop the Big El; Brian was the only one who got close.


Title: Re: News Article From 1971: Smile, Radiant Radish, BB's Cartoon???
Post by: Mikie on November 22, 2011, 08:27:28 PM
They all tried to chop the Big El; Brian was the only one who got close.

Yeah, I think he got too close and the Pelvis didn't like it!


Title: Re: News Article From 1971: Smile, Radiant Radish, BB's Cartoon???
Post by: guitarfool2002 on November 22, 2011, 09:35:37 PM
and perform secret missions for the president

If the date is correct, that would have been Richard Nixon...perhaps one of the cartoon plots would have involved the Boys performing a mission at a certain hotel called the Watergate... ;D


Title: Re: News Article From 1971: Smile, Radiant Radish, BB's Cartoon???
Post by: Alan Smith on November 22, 2011, 11:15:50 PM
All cartoon characters get funky catch-phrases.

I'm betting Al, on confronting the villian of the villian of the week, would lay down a "Cool it!!" or 2.

Suggestions for the rest of the gang (simian included)?


Title: Re: News Article From 1971: Smile, Radiant Radish, BB's Cartoon???
Post by: The Madcap on November 22, 2011, 11:37:46 PM
My attempt at a more accurate version of the 1971 Beach Boys. I'll admit that Al came out horribly. That may have to do with the fact that I finished him at 2:30 in the morning.

(http://images3a.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp733%3C8%3Enu%3D7267%3E25%3B%3E259%3EWSNRCG%3D3476%3B8787434%3Anu0mrj)


Title: Re: News Article From 1971: Smile, Radiant Radish, BB's Cartoon???
Post by: Don_Zabu on November 23, 2011, 01:08:53 AM
Just when you thought you'd seen everything...


Title: Re: News Article From 1971: Smile, Radiant Radish, BB's Cartoon???
Post by: anazgnos on November 23, 2011, 01:13:14 AM
I love it!  Denny's hand!  And at least you got Al down to a realistic height.

I wonder if Al insisted on having his character appear to be 9 feet tall?  Some of the more bizarre features of that original sketch make me feel like we have a glimpse into character meetings might have taken place with the boys: Brian insisting that they can't make him the fat/food-obsessed one, and Al insisting that they can draw him however they want as long as he's not the "short one".


Title: Re: News Article From 1971: Smile, Radiant Radish, BB's Cartoon???
Post by: Eric Aniversario on November 23, 2011, 01:24:14 AM
My attempt at a more accurate version of the 1971 Beach Boys. I'll admit that Al came out horribly. That may have to do with the fact that I finished him at 2:30 in the morning.

(http://images3a.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp733%3C8%3Enu%3D7267%3E25%3B%3E259%3EWSNRCG%3D3476%3B8787434%3Anu0mrj)
Hilarious!!!  :-D


Title: Re: News Article From 1971: Smile, Radiant Radish, BB's Cartoon???
Post by: exposedbrain on November 23, 2011, 05:29:00 AM
Here are a coupla pics that someone posted back in 2003....

(http://banana-and-louie.org/images/BBcartoon1.jpg)
(http://banana-and-louie.org/images/bbcartoon2.jpg)
These look like they were taken from a book (the caption doesn't look like it was done with a computer, looks printed to my eyes) . Anyone know what book this could've been?


Title: Re: News Article From 1971: Smile, Radiant Radish, BB's Cartoon???
Post by: SMiLE Brian on November 23, 2011, 05:59:43 AM
My attempt at a more accurate version of the 1971 Beach Boys. I'll admit that Al came out horribly. That may have to do with the fact that I finished him at 2:30 in the morning.

(http://images3a.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp733%3C8%3Enu%3D7267%3E25%3B%3E259%3EWSNRCG%3D3476%3B8787434%3Anu0mrj)
When is this coming out?  ;D


Title: Re: News Article From 1971: Smile, Radiant Radish, BB's Cartoon???
Post by: Aegir on November 25, 2011, 09:31:48 AM
Oh my god I'm so glad that cartoon never happened. Al looks horrifying.


Title: Re: News Article From 1971: Smile, Radiant Radish, BB's Cartoon???
Post by: Smilin Ed H on November 25, 2011, 10:54:08 AM
You missed out the young chick undernaeth Dennis and the wife leaving Mike.


Title: Re: News Article From 1971: Smile, Radiant Radish, BB's Cartoon???
Post by: Slow In Brain on November 25, 2011, 03:15:30 PM
Here are a coupla pics that someone posted back in 2003....

(http://banana-and-louie.org/images/BBcartoon1.jpg)
(http://banana-and-louie.org/images/bbcartoon2.jpg)

The image of the guys in the car reminds me of a similar one in the Byron Priess book. Also what is that yellow thing on the front?


Title: Re: News Article From 1971: Smile, Radiant Radish, BB's Cartoon???
Post by: bossaroo on November 25, 2011, 04:35:19 PM
Mike's hairpiece?


Title: Re: News Article From 1971: Smile, Radiant Radish, BB's Cartoon???
Post by: Tilt Araiza on November 25, 2011, 10:46:10 PM
These look like they were taken from a book (the caption doesn't look like it was done with a computer, looks printed to my eyes) . Anyone know what book this could've been?

Peter Bagge's Hate Annual #2 from 2002.  They accompany a pro-Mike, anti-Brianista essay.


Title: Re: News Article From 1971: Smile, Radiant Radish, BB's Cartoon???
Post by: MBE on November 28, 2011, 12:45:48 AM
Wow that is weird. Desper told me Brian always wanted to do cartoons so perhaps this was his idea???