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Title: Is that a train?
Post by: Boiled Egg on October 20, 2011, 08:39:04 AM
This has only just occurred to me. Forgive me if you spotted this 150 years ago.

The percussion of the instrumental backing to the Heroes And Villains chorus - the sandpaper, tambourine and what sounds like anvil/metal pipe.

That's depicting a train, right?

(For a really clear showcase, try the last 55 seconds of Bicycle Rider, track 18 on Heroes And Vibrations.)


Title: Re: Is that a train?
Post by: Boiled Egg on October 22, 2011, 11:19:39 AM
Boy, do I know how to set this board alight.


Title: Re: Is that a train?
Post by: runnersdialzero on October 22, 2011, 12:40:10 PM
THE THING THAT I HATE
THE MOST OF ALL IS TRAINS


Title: Re: Is that a train?
Post by: SMiLE Brian on October 22, 2011, 12:42:01 PM
THE THING THAT I HATE
THE MOST OF ALL IS TRAINS
So i guess you don't like the the end of caroline no. ;D


Title: Re: Is that a train?
Post by: ThunderRyan on October 23, 2011, 09:57:50 PM
I kinda hear it as the sound of someone spitting into a spittoon, like in the old west saloons. With the Cabasa being the person 'hocking' and firing and that 'PING!' when they'd hit the bucket and all that. Not sure if that was intentional or not, but neat all the same.


Title: Re: Is that a train?
Post by: Micha on October 23, 2011, 11:09:19 PM
That always made me think of a chain gang. I don't hear a train there at all. But it probably was meant to depict - a bicycle.


Title: Re: Is that a train?
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on October 24, 2011, 02:27:11 AM
Boy, do I know how to set this board alight.

 ;D


Title: Re: Is that a train?
Post by: smokeythebear on October 24, 2011, 03:02:00 AM
Can very well be, i always imagine the complex vocals sometimes sounds like gunfire, you know bullets flying all over the place.


Title: Re: Is that a train?
Post by: Ron on October 24, 2011, 06:55:37 AM
Perhaps it's a pastiche.  How do you spell Pastiche?


Title: Re: Is that a train?
Post by: Iron Horse-Apples on October 24, 2011, 08:11:42 AM
Maybe, just maybe, it's a percussion effect and doesn't mean anything. It's timed to underscore the word Villians, so I should think it is a purely musical decision.

That's not to say he didn't use music for literal effects sometimes, railroad hammer's, heartbeats etc. But not in this case IMO

It's all open to interpretation though, and if you hear it as a train, then to you it's a train. :)


Title: Re: Is that a train?
Post by: donald on October 24, 2011, 10:52:36 AM
Perhaps it's a pastiche.  How do you spell Pastiche?

Passteesh.   I think that album has a lot of passteesh.  Sometimes more passteesh and sometimes less passteesh.

Some of my albums have pahteena.  Perhaps that is why I sometimes can't hear the passteesh.