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Title: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: Shady on October 06, 2011, 12:11:47 PM
Just saw this posted on a BB tumblr

"Also, my interview with Mark Linett sheds a little light on where that version came from. Apparently, while working on the first-ever stereo mix of Wild Honey, they found a few run-throughs of "Surf's Up" with just Brian and a piano, AFTER Smile had been aborted"

Capitol are listening to the FANS for the 50th celebrations


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: Emdeeh on October 06, 2011, 01:15:59 PM
Stereo Wild Honey! :happydance


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: Myk Luhv on October 06, 2011, 02:11:54 PM
If only they'd release Love You in mono!


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: Bicyclerider on October 06, 2011, 02:18:23 PM
A stereo twofer Smiley Smile/Wild Honey perhaps?  Sweet!


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: sockittome on October 06, 2011, 04:21:41 PM
Just saw this posted on a BB tumblr

"Also, my interview with Mark Linett sheds a little light on where that version came from. Apparently, while working on the first-ever stereo mix of Wild Honey, they found a few run-throughs of "Surf's Up" with just Brian and a piano, AFTER Smile had been aborted"

Capitol are listening to the FANS for the 50th celebrations


Whaaaaaaaaaaaaat?  Really?

 :thewilsons          :tm            :spin           :listening   :rock




Um.....what, is it too early?


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: puni puni on October 06, 2011, 05:36:13 PM
unless he means the stereo remixes from let the wind blow or whatever


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: jimmy1949 on October 06, 2011, 07:38:52 PM
A stereo twofer Smiley Smile/Wild Honey perhaps?  Sweet!
In that case we must have fresh bonus tracks!! 8) 8) 8)


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: Chris Brown on October 06, 2011, 07:42:05 PM
Wow that's amazing news, no album needs a stereo remix more than Wild Honey!


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: grillo on October 06, 2011, 09:00:39 PM
Maybe he just means Wild Honey the song? I doubt there's any chance of a stereo remix of the whole album!? Is there?


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: Alex on October 06, 2011, 09:19:54 PM
So there IS a WH version of Surf`s Up?! It better have a bitchin` sax solo!!


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: Myk Luhv on October 06, 2011, 09:25:25 PM
We're not talkin' "Surf's Up" Keepin' The Summer Alive- or The Beach Boys-style, jeez. It better have some groovy Baldwin action!


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: runnersdialzero on October 06, 2011, 09:58:39 PM
Legit Captain Obvious stuff here, but every album up to including Wild Honey deserves a re-release:

a) The original mono mix, including those that haven't been released on CD yet.
b) A stereo mix - preferably the whole album, but if it cannot be done (or cannot be done decently), just opt for the tracks that can be in stereo as bonus tracks.
c) Appropriate rarities of the era, starting with the standard two-fer bonus tracks and and hopefully adding a bit to each of them :)

This time, no noise reduction as on the old two-fers, no gobs of compression/limiting as on the recent two-fers, get the right guy in there so we can finally have decent representations of these albums on CD. Finally, much like the 97 Pet Sounds release, lots in the way of liner notes - recording info, interviews, pictures, song info, etc. Standard stuff, obvious stuff,  but still. Makes meh sad that something like that doesn't exist. ---->  :(

I'd probably be just as excited for a release like this as I am the Smile box set (which is obviously a lot). Hopefully the 50th anniversary and the Smile box will generate enough interest that something like it will happen in the near future. (PLZ PLZ PLZ IMO)


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: puni puni on October 06, 2011, 10:13:38 PM
the stereo mixes we got of the 1967-1969 songs have been pretty... awful though

let the wind blow and time to get alone on hawthorne hurts my ears. why so much reverb?!


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: Jay on October 06, 2011, 10:23:33 PM
Notice that it said "A few runthroughs". More than one?  ;D


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: runnersdialzero on October 06, 2011, 10:47:11 PM
the stereo mixes we got of the 1967-1969 songs have been pretty... awful though

let the wind blow and time to get alone on hawthorne hurts my ears. why so much reverb?!

Some're good, some're not. But yeah, sometimes too much reverb, way too much compression, etc. Hopefully they'd avoid such things when doing an entire album. Hopefully.


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: chris.metcalfe on October 07, 2011, 01:04:31 AM
We're not talkin' "Surf's Up" Keepin' The Summer Alive- or The Beach Boys-style, jeez. It better have some groovy Baldwin action!

At least we were spared a disco Surf's Up in 1979.


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: phirnis on October 07, 2011, 02:38:52 AM
"Also, my interview with Mark Linett sheds a little light on where that version came from. Apparently, while working on the first-ever stereo mix of Wild Honey, they found a few run-throughs of "Surf's Up" with just Brian and a piano, AFTER Smile had been aborted"

They could include that one on the Surf's Up DVD-A. Just saying!


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: buddhahat on October 07, 2011, 02:43:11 AM
Might be worth merging this with the other Wild Honey Stereo thread, or at least pasting Tony's clarification of the Wild Honey stereo thing, so people don't get their hopes up unnessecarily:

Let me clarify, so there's no confusion...

I asked Mark about what was left in the archives, now that SMiLE is coming, and the rarities collections Endless Harmony and Hawthorne, CA have unearthed a lot of things. He mentioned that fans have been clamoring for true stereo mixes of albums that have only been available in mono.

Then he mentioned the recently-found Brian demo of "Surf's Up," which was a result of them archiving the Wild Honey tapes. There were 4 or 5 takes of Brian running through the track at the end of a reel marked for "Country Air."

Because that was all mentioned together, I inferred that they were related. However, after replaying his quote, he didn't specifically say that a Wild Honey stereo mix was next on the agenda.

Sorry, I am new to this board, and don't want to put words in other people's mouth. The interview will be up soon.

Thanks,


Tony


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: The Shift on October 07, 2011, 07:34:58 AM
Anyone else think it's a shame that the WH SU is being thrown away on this box set? Surely its proper place is as a bonus track on the stereo WH CD release?


















 :lol


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: Chris Brown on October 07, 2011, 07:55:04 PM
You almost had me there John.


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: Ron on October 07, 2011, 08:18:22 PM
Hearing stuff like this, is like getting a peek into Santa's workshop.  When Mark Linnett wakes up in the morning, and he's already done whatever his latest project is, he must just come up with cool stuff to pass the time with like, "Oh, I think I'll make Wild Honey Stereo Today" lol

WHO THE HELL KNOWS what great stuff they're cookin' up for us in the workshop right now.  Plus, as this proves, apparently they still have stuff on tape they don't even know they have.  Whoa. 


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: Peter Reum on October 07, 2011, 10:25:38 PM
Very wonderful news from MarkL


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: Jay on October 08, 2011, 01:02:52 AM
Having the complete four or five takes on a bonus EP CD would make a great Best Buy exclusive for the Smile Sessions box set. I wouldn't mind spending the extra dollars for a second copy of the set.  8)


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: brother john on October 08, 2011, 04:40:14 AM
STEREO SMILEY SMILE PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: rogerlancelot on October 08, 2011, 04:56:08 AM
I for one love the stereo mix of "Let The Wind Blow" on Hawthorne and the mix of "Country Air" that circulates. Even though some elements are surely missing from the multi-tracks I think this album would sound much better in stereo. I've done some of my own mixes (on a comp of mine called "Thank God For Wonderful") where I synced up the tracks from SOT Unsurpassed Masters 19 and tweaked them to sound pretty good (except for "Darlin'") and in stereo. If I could do it and make it sound that good then there is no telling what Mark can do using the original multi-tracks.

And yes, do Smiley Smile too!


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: puni puni on October 08, 2011, 08:59:41 AM
i managed to isolate the lead vocals, piano, organ, percussion, and guitar/backing vox + mixed it all in stereo for wild honey

not perfect though


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: drbeachboy on October 08, 2011, 09:18:59 AM
May we Partake of this Mix, please?


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: Quzi on October 08, 2011, 09:37:39 AM
I too would be keen on a Piece of the pie, Mr gidyangay


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: pixletwin on October 08, 2011, 10:18:52 AM
Do you think Paul McCartney would like it?


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: Amazing Larry on October 08, 2011, 10:49:02 AM
Maybe you could just PM me, I'm tired of all this subtlety bullstuff.


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: puni puni on October 08, 2011, 12:10:25 PM
sure

i even threw in the isolations i made


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: Amazing Larry on October 08, 2011, 12:19:33 PM
The instrumental mix is damn good, but the vox should be mixed lower. Great isolation job.


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: puni puni on October 08, 2011, 12:25:02 PM
it was kind of a lazy job, i'm sure someone else could do better isolations


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: CarlTheVoice on October 08, 2011, 12:51:06 PM
I'm a new-ish Beach Boys fan (even though I've listened to them all my life!) and it seems like such a great time to be a part of it! Tours/SMiLE/possible re-unions - we're quite lucky! I'm not old enough to have seen the whole band live but hearing all these 'new' tracks and reading up about it all does make me feel part of the magic that is The Beach Boys.


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: Bleachboy on October 08, 2011, 01:40:10 PM
Anybody kind enough to give me a taste of these tracks?


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: Jay on October 08, 2011, 06:26:55 PM
Me too?  ;D


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: Dunderhead on October 08, 2011, 06:30:09 PM
there is a wild honey stereo fan mix out there. A few tracks are in fake stereo though.


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: Jay on October 08, 2011, 11:52:54 PM
Somebody really needs to do a needle drop of the complete Beach Boys catalogue, in all the various forms that they were released in(stereo, mono, duphonic(?)). Getting pristine condition original vinyl copies could prove rather costly though.

I would never in a million years consider helping to bankroll such a dirty money grabbing scheme, mind.  :police:


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: Paul2010 on October 08, 2011, 11:57:36 PM
I'd really like to have a pm as well please! Thanks in advance.


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: WWDWD? on October 09, 2011, 03:45:14 AM
Please May I too?


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: rogerlancelot on October 09, 2011, 03:48:40 AM
If you be so kind to Please add Me to your list?


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: runnersdialzero on October 09, 2011, 04:54:51 AM
send me material illegally on the internet.


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: hypehat on October 09, 2011, 06:12:40 AM
I think that's too subtle, runnersdial  :lol

if anyone could parenthetically matriculate this to me, that'd be nice  :)


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: puni puni on October 09, 2011, 07:58:53 AM
maybe i should just put it on youtube


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: pixletwin on October 09, 2011, 08:01:55 AM
Sounds great gidyangay!


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: puni puni on October 09, 2011, 08:33:05 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cz7ANW1Br4I


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: Wrightfan on October 09, 2011, 12:29:04 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cz7ANW1Br4I

What is up with Carl's face? Nightmare fuel right there.


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: Amazing Larry on October 09, 2011, 12:31:53 PM
MY GOD. The alternate universe where Carl was a special needs kid.


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: Jimmie_R on October 09, 2011, 02:52:31 PM
Hi! I´m new here so I´m not sure if asking for a PM with these files would be the first thing to do! :-\

But well.. I´d love to have them!

Awsome mix btw!! i wish we´ll get the whole album like this! ;D


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: hypehat on October 09, 2011, 02:59:10 PM
Thanks gidyngay! Those isolations are insane  ;D


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: doinnothin on October 09, 2011, 04:07:37 PM
I had a PreMonition that I was sent a copy of this. Hope it comes true ...


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: puni puni on October 10, 2011, 12:12:44 AM
just a tip, the link is in the description of
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cz7ANW1Br4I


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: doinnothin on October 10, 2011, 10:26:40 AM
Spanks


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: trismegistus on October 10, 2011, 10:44:14 AM
Awesome work on the Wild Honey mix. Yeah hopefully with the Smile blitz we'll get a few more releases, we really do need releases befitting the bands stature, the two-fers are acceptable but I'd love to have a really clean mix of Today, Smiley Smile, etc etc.


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: runnersdialzero on October 10, 2011, 10:50:35 AM
i like to hard pan the entire track into one ear for true stereo experience


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: Jimmie_R on October 11, 2011, 04:27:32 AM
Any chance that you will make the whole album like this?  ;D


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: puni puni on October 12, 2011, 02:02:14 AM
only I Was Made To Love Her, Here Comes The Night, Darlin', and A Thing Or Two have been bootlegged but I don't care about any of those tracks

except maybe Here Comes The Night


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: The Shift on October 12, 2011, 02:11:16 AM
only I Was Made To Love Her, Here Comes The Night, Darlin', and A Thing Or Two have been bootlegged but I don't care about any of those tracks

except maybe Here Comes The Night

Now there's a song that could do with a complete make-over. What about a disco beat, layered harmonies by others, jiggling strings…


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: runnersdialzero on October 12, 2011, 03:23:56 AM

Now there's a song that could do with a complete make-over. What about a disco beat, layered harmonies by others, jiggling strings…

Yes, YES! And how about an extra ten minutes of nothing! I DSDON TOPUD (AD CNA YOU E VER NI DONT EVENI NAieFi8naeg


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: Aegir on October 12, 2011, 05:33:26 AM
screeching monkey sounds


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: The Shift on October 12, 2011, 05:43:57 AM

Now there's a song that could do with a complete make-over. What about a disco beat, layered harmonies by others, jiggling strings…

Yes, YES! And how about an extra ten minutes of nothing! I DSDON TOPUD (AD CNA YOU E VER NI DONT EVENI NAieFi8naeg


Think your cat completed the post while you were out making coffee…!  ;D


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: Ram4 on October 12, 2011, 09:49:38 AM
Awesome work on the Wild Honey mix. Yeah hopefully with the Smile blitz we'll get a few more releases, we really do need releases befitting the bands stature, the two-fers are acceptable but I'd love to have a really clean mix of Today, Smiley Smile, etc etc.
They should simply try to have mono and stereo versions of each album through the late 60's as many other bands from that era have put out on CD such as The Beatles and The Hollies (also EMI acts). 

Something like this:
Surfer Girl CD with entire album in stereo and mono, plus bonus tracks, and Surfer Girl album session tracks

Maybe instead of releasing the singles like Be True To Your School on the CDs with the albums, they could have a compilation of the singles in mono/stereo plus sessions for those tracks.



Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Remastered Stereo?
Post by: FUN³ on November 03, 2012, 04:37:49 PM
bump

...any chance of this happening this year/ever? what prevented its release, while lesser albums (all of them) made the cut?? I don't get it.


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: grillo on November 03, 2012, 07:48:43 PM
didn't linett himself say that the vocal tracks really weren't there 'cos the guys would just record right over the parts that had been sub-mixed down to mono before the rest of the vocals were added? (if that makes sense at all)


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: Quzi on November 03, 2012, 09:03:34 PM
They could always extract the vocals from the sub-mono mixdown though, right? I'm no audio engineering aficionado, but I'd assume that extracting the vocals from those tracks wouldn't be more difficult than what our good Irish friend had to do for "Good Vibrations". If the four/five tracks that suffer from this problem can sound as good as "Good Vibes" does, I don't really have a problem with the extraction route being taken.


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Remastered Stereo?
Post by: Wrightfan on November 04, 2012, 07:15:58 AM
bump

...any chance of this happening this year/ever? what prevented its release, while lesser albums (all of them) made the cut?? I don't get it.

I doubt it will happen in the near future. The Wild Honey Mark was talking about was probably the mix that appeared on the 50 big ones set.


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: Cabinessenceking on November 04, 2012, 08:18:55 AM
what an anti-climax to enter this thread and see it dated to Oct 2011....


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: sockittome on November 04, 2012, 08:52:38 AM
Yeah every time someone bumps this thread, it raises hope that maybe there is some actual news about stereo Wild Honey. 


Crap, I just did it.... :(


Title: Re: Wild Honey being released in Stereo?
Post by: The Heartical Don on November 05, 2012, 01:45:48 AM
only I Was Made To Love Her, Here Comes The Night, Darlin', and A Thing Or Two have been bootlegged but I don't care about any of those tracks

except maybe Here Comes The Night

Now there's a song that could do with a complete make-over. What about a disco beat, layered harmonies by others, jiggling strings…

 :lol that one made me laugh (and the next one too).