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Which one of the Beach Boys says this during 'In The Cantina'?

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When I first heard it I thought it was Dennis. But wasn't it one of Brian's friends/no Beach Boy ?

That part is so lame on BWPS. Really bugs me

Funny, I was literally just thinking about this yesterday. 

I always thought it was Dennis too - if it's a Beach Boy at all, he's the one.  But the voice doesn't sound like any Beach Boy really, so I'm guessing it's one of the Vosse posse.

And yeah I agree, I can't stand that part on BWPS either.

'Vosse posse'  :)

Gene Gaddy, Barbara Rovell's husband.

I'm wondering if he perhaps does the bass vocals on "Vegetables" and "Love To Say Da Da," because despite the "definitive vocal credits," there's no way in hell that's Mike's voice...

Is that right?


(I really think the 'In The Cantina' version should have been THE released 45 single. It kicks ass in so many ways).

Yes, Gene Gaddy said it.

Interesting - thanks!

Wow, you learn something new every day!  Wonder how on earth that came to be - did Brian just audition every voice he could find until he found one he liked?

Not so much it being "lame", but legit - if Genie boy is still alive, he should've done it, just as Al should've sang "Vegetables", Mike, Al, and Bruce should be doing some of the backup vocals, etc. etc. etc. et.c WHATEVER f*** LIFE I M O ~~~

"you're under arrest" is one of the drug allusions, giving more credence to the theory that the song is about the dualities - the awakened & unawakaned. brian said children of god are in their 20s.... heroes & villains just see what you've done, means this game of us vs them fragmenting the old against the young, see what you've done to the church of the amerikan indian, you're losing sight of the spiritual side of the effect of the chemicals. the indjuns knew it. bicycle rider see see what you've done. lsd getting too mainstream too many people aware hence the straights / stoners split. heroes and villains means, look at this situation that's happening. in older cultures psychedelics were embedded in the culture without censorship or restriction, they were generally considered as only suitable for certain people anyway and used with apparent success by them. in our times these things are demonized when they are no more harmful than a mcdonald's meal on the body & brain, probably less so and considerably more insightful, and cost about the same.

I'm not a fan of it, but I wouldn't call it lame, necessarily...but what I really don't understand is that in the featurette on the making of BWPS, Brian has Nick go through several iterations of "You're under arrest!", and the one he called perfect was much closer to Gaddy's version...wonder why it wasn't used on the final version, unless BWPS was already recorded and that was re-enacted for film...

I've always loved the "You're Under Arrest" bit.  For all the talk about how Brian's SMiLE vision was never completed, he actually did accomplish one of his goals which was to bring humor into pop music.  There are so many little bits on this record which were intentionally put in there by Brian to make the listener chuckle.  The sound effects in "Heroes and Villains" and "Vega-Tables", the way that the horns laugh at you during the first movement of "Surf's Up", "You're Under Arrest", the list goes on and on.  I can't think of any album offhand that went to such lengths to hide these hidden treasures within it's songs.

Nick sounds sad when he says it on the album version. 'teh hell is up with that?

My kiddos burst into laughter every time they hear that bit.  Great humor relief...that's why they call it SMiLE.

"YOu're Under Arrest" on new version of H&V seems too quiet and not as jarring as cantina version. I dislike.

Whoever did it... it sounds embarrassing to me, Always has.

I thought it was Brian?

Doesn't sound like Brian, either. Too nasally.

It's way too quiet on the new mix. Sigh

In my perfect dream world, this little section would go on just a little bit longer.

"You're under arrest! Lock him up *handcuff noise*"

my children were raised...

There's another five syllable spoken word bit that would've been in Heroes at least for a day/week/month and can be heard on the SMiLE sessions Disc 2. "That was for you punk!" I'm surprised that doesn't get more attention. I like to think one is the hero, the other the villain, and they may've traded spoken word threats like that after every other verse or something.

Which track is this in on disc 2? I'm sure I remember it but I can't find it!

I believe its track 26, H&V part 4, about 1:10 in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fszNcysYdYM&list=PL4jIq7wqF8Qe9-mMfvmSCloXvhSw1l67S&index=26 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fszNcysYdYM&list=PL4jIq7wqF8Qe9-mMfvmSCloXvhSw1l67S&index=26) It's not a "final draft" of the idea by any means, not said with the same dramatic flourish as YUA like in the Cantina edit. It's just Brian/Carl or one of the other guys saying it between takes, with an obvious put-on tough-guy drawl, but in a whisper. It sounds like he's rehearsing where it's gonna go. This would've been for Side 2 of the single I believe, and further credits the theory I saw on the forum back in the day that side1 would be the Hero while side2 would be the Villain.

Thanks! At some point years ago there was a fan mix that inserted it somewhere that I listened to a lot, the exact intonation is like burned into my mind. But I'd probably only listened to it in its original context a couple of times!

Carl saying those words at random in the middle of a session doesn't suggest in any way that it was a thing he would re-record as part of the actual song. It's just, like... him muttering something between takes. All of them mutter a whole lot of things between takes.

I suppose. Im not gonna die on the hill that "that was for you, punk" is definitely a vintage spoken word insert, but I don't think it should be absolutely discounted either. It would be a weird thing for him to say unless "in character" as some kind of gunslinger even if it's improvised. Also, Brian says there'd be talking in the cuts and we only have one official instance of it as-is, which begs the question what else he had in mind. Well, here we have another spoken word bit, same amount of syllables, sounds like something a cowboy would say to a rival...it's definitely a big coincidence if they're not related. This is, at the very least, the most plausible candidate for another spoken word insert we've heard.