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I came across a series of recordings listed as "1967 rehearasals"; here are the tracks:

God Only Knows
California Girls
Surfer Girl
You're So Good To Me
The Letter
Help Me Rhonda
Heroes & Villains
Their Hearts Were Full of Spring

are these the songs that were recorded for Lei'd In Hawaii?

they recorded all the rehersals? are the same as the God Only Knows rehersal on the Endless Harmony soundtrack?

I love the quality of it and how they sound, Id love to get more of em!  :hat

I'm pretty sure. All the tracks I've heard so far are just vocals, organ/keyboard and drums (besides their Hearts Were Full of Spring, obviously).

Yeah, the rehearsals are good. Especially enjoy the "California Girls" rehearsal, and they switched the lyric in "Help Me Rhonda" to "Help You Rhonda". "The Letter" on "Rarities" is from the rehearsal.

I'd love to get the whole set, I listened to the live concert...the quality isnt as good :/

yeah, the setlist is:

Intro
The Letter
Hawaii
You're So Good To Me
Surfer Girl
Surfin'
Gettin' Hungry
California Girls
Wouldn't It Be Nice?
Heroes & Villians
God Only Knows
Good Vibrations
Barbara Ann

*Brian performed at this show

pretty sure Sloop John B was on there as well, which I believe Brian played bass on...who played it when he wasnt? i love the organ parts...some say annoying, i love it. Lei'd is one of my favorite BB subjects for some reason. Wish the other night was recorded or booted

Set List For the First Night 8/25/67 was
Intro
The Letter
Hawaii
You're So Good To Me
Surfer Girl
Surfin'
Gettin' Hungry
Sloop John B
California Girls
Wouldn't It Be Nice
Heroes And Villains
God Only Knows
Barbara Ann

Set List For The Second Night 8/26/67
Hawthorne Boulevard
Hawaii
You're So Good To Me
Help Me Rhonda
California Girls
Sloop John B
Wouldn't It Be Nice
Gettin' Hungry
Surfer Girl
Surfin'
The Letter
God Only Knows
Good Vibrations
Heroes And Villains
Barabara Ann

Both of these shows were recorded and are both booted. Both soundboard quality recordings.

Same here. Surfer Girl is on the Good Vibrations box, and Good Vibrations is on the Hawthorne set (I think that's a rehearsal one). Heroes and Villains (Live) is on the Concert twofer... This boot is one I'd love to hear.

the version of Surfer Girl on the GV box is the best ive ever heard it performed...i love the new ending that brian left on for live at the roxy

Just for frame of reference --

The "rehearsals" were recorded *after* the concerts. It seems the live recordings were deemed unusable. The 'rehearsals' have a veryl Smiley Smile feel to them.

Yep, at Wally Heider's studio in L.A.

There were also real rehearsals before the Hawaii-shows. "Good vibrations" on Hawthorne,CA and "Their hearts were full of spring" are from that rehearsal

a littel birdie told me mike love talks over the H&V reherals...annoying at that

whats up with that? does he have to sabotage EVERYTHING?

It's been said that Brian directed and wrote that speech.

BTW I think H&V sounds fantastic in that version (except the comments)

Hahaha, I love Mike's talking over Heroes and Villains. It's amazing.

I think the music sounds great but I cant get over Mike's talking...that guy needs a mute button.

It's been said, but the evidence has never been presented, as far as I know.

There exists a tape where you can hear Brian giving Mike directions for that speech, but I never herad it.

Who's heard it?

Don't forget that Brian himself is sabotaging the song with his singing about oral sex (I think).

how's that?

I'll have to listen to it again to know what I'm talking about, and I'm not going to do that now. Maybe someone else can, or else I'll see if I can find it later.

I'd be curious about that too Mitchell, I think I hear Brian singing something that's not in the actual song towards the end but I couldn't ever understand what it was.  I'm talking about the end of the last H&V chorus...whenever you get around to it I'd love to know more about this!

Yeah, it's at the end. I think Cam Mott knows what he says.

Right at the end, while Mike is thanking you for coming to the show, during the "Bicycle Rider" fade-out, Brian seems to sing something ad-libbed.  All I can get for sure is "...been eatin..."

Paints a nice picture of Marilyn, ay?

 >:D

i love that marilyn rovell ... she's hot

...been eatin' a lot of....ummmm..."kitty", is what I heard.  Is that what others have heard?

Was and is.

It's very believable that Brian wrote that scripted part for Mike to say. A few reasons might supply a definate answer.

- Heroes and Villains was worked on more than Good Vibrations. It was hoped by all to be bigger, better, and shoot them into even higher fame and glory than ever.

- As the SMiLE album died out and became Smiley Smile the song was re-recorded somewhat. It then lost all sense of dynamacism that it once had. And it once did with such grace and glory. It was a bumbling trek through all that is cool in the world.

- Brian held onto the final version of the song for ages. He thought it was going to be some huge hit when infact it wasn't. It was cool, but it was no Good Vibrations and people already gained their doubts.

So to mock all of his work in a sick attempt to re-motivate himself and get back on track with music, he scripts out the thing for Mike Love to say. It's every thought Brian has about the song, now looking at it as a fan and not himself deep within the song and its recording. It's something i'm prone to doing all the time. I'll look back on myself and remark on how "stupid" certain things were.

That California Girls is pretty cool...just a completely different vibe than what it turned into.  Especially the outro.

Are the live performances any more animated in any way?

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In the Badman book, there's a review of the show which details Brian Wilson's new "organ playing talent". I always wondered about this since, well, Brian was always a great keyboard player being it his main instrument.

I've learned that nothing is too bizarre to rule out in the land of Brian Wilson.  But the first thing I would need to believe that Mike was scripted is any scrap of direct evidence to that effect.

Also, compare that track to "Cassius Love Vs. Sonny Wilson" and see if it still sounds like Mike's reading a script.  Maybe he'd spent the intervening years studying The Method with Stanislavsky.

Joe,  I doubt there is direct evidence that either Brian or Mike "wrote" it.  As I remember there is aural evidence that Brian tells Mike one take of the H&V spoof is "great" and another take "cracked him up" plus there is Brian doing his own afore-mentioned naughty spoof of the lyrics.  I suppose that at the at least two takes says something about the scriptedness or candidness or something.

Without any evidence of truth, it has to go into the category of unsupported theory.  I'd certainly like to hear the additional audio (are other takes available?).  I have to say, I can't imagine how Brian's piss take on the lyrics at the very end of the blown take are any evidence whatsoever that Mike's previous comments are scripted by Brian, or how that has any bearing.  Again, I'm not ruling it out; just waiting for the supporting data...

Didn't noted Beach Boys historian Peter Reum confirm that it was scripted by Brian?  Brian told him so, or I don't remember.  It seemed like pretty solid evidence, if I remember correctly.

Yeah, that's exactly what I'm hearing now that you said so.

back to our favourite Baldwin organ for a second...anyone know the model of that thing?

"Baldwin Theatre Organ"

Considering everyone bemoans the "DDT" (Dreaded Double Thread) I think this - Warning: this topic has not been posted in for at least 120 days.
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Anyhow - I just got into Lei'd in Hawaii and if anyone wants to revive discussion after an eight year hiatus, bienvenidos.

I constructed a Lei'd in Hawaii playlist from what we have so far, it's only 8 tracks (obviously) and an intro to "Surfin'" I think is hilarious.

It goes nicely as a bonus EP to Smiley Smile.

Lei'd in Hawaii

1. Help You, Rhonda (Lei'd in Hawaii studio) - MIC
2. God Only Knows (live 1967 rehearsal) - Endless Harmony ST
3. California Girls (Lei'd in Hawaii studio) - MIC
4. The Letter (live rehearsal 1967) - MIC
5. You're So Good To Me - Wally Heider boot
6. Their Hearts Were Full of Spring - Wally Heider boot
7. Surfin' rehearsal - Aloha from Hawaii....and Hollywood
8. Surfer Girl (live in Hawaii rehearsal) - GV:30 Years
9. Heroes & Villains - Concert/Live in London two-fer

What's the difference between the Wally a sided boot and Smiley/Wild Honey twofer bonus track of Their Hearts were Full of Spring? I've only heard THAFOS Hawaii rehearsal on that twofer.

Eatin' up her wild honey!

Just thinking about Melinda reading that is giving me a Grinch smile :)

Haha, I had the same creepy smile too.