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Or is he totally clean these days? we heard him drunk a couple of times in the 90`s and we all saw how hes eyes became happy when describing his first hit. So what do you guys think?

It's pretty common knowledge that during the 2nd Landy era, if he was a 'good boy' during the day his reward was a joint at night. As for now, if anyone knows, they know better than to say so in a public forum. I seriously doubt it.

Seems like a good reward for a hard days work :) i guess the question asked will get as much of an answer as the question does Brian still posses his full falsetto. 

I'm sure Brian enjoys some alcohol occasionally. In fact, in "his" "autobiography" "he" mentions that he learned that it's okay to have a glass of wine sometimes. And at the TNT Tribute when he introduced Andy Paley (this wasn't on the DVD or the broadcast), he talked about how they wrote some songs together "and had some beers together."

And he said in a newspaper interview that he patched himself smoke-free in 1995...

Brian still has a fair falsetto. Not full (guy's in his 60s), and it can waver a bit, but it's there: mutual friend once bet him a steak dinner - a few years ago - he couldn't hit the high "domino" note in "Surf's Up". He lost.  :)

No way. Cannabis is a psychedelic drug, and can be more harmful to mentally weak people than any other drug.
Isn't he still on anti-psychotics? Would be weird if he'd enjoy a spliff.

Wave a steak under Brian's nose and he'd probably perform the entire works of Gilbert & Sullivan in character for you.

I think I recall reading an article in maybe Rolling Stone a few years back where Brian drove with a journalist in Beverly Hills. In the piece, it wqas mentioned the two of them having Heinekens at dinner. I could be mixing up articles though.

Not to sound like an idiot but what's spliff? I've never heard of it, and I've have my fair share of recreational "stuff" over the years....still enjoy a variety of "things" to this day.

Weed, the chronic, sweet Mary Jane, reefer, ganga, gear, wacky backy, cannabis.  :hat :smokin

Having hung around his band enough to get an idea of how things go in that camp, I'm going to say the answer is a resounding NO. Neil Young on the other hand.....  :hat

ah, heard most of those names, but not spliff.

Its a european thing

I'm enjoying a "spliff" right now at the same time as I discovered this thread.

 :smokin

Geez that's pretty damned impressive - I'm 27 and I struggle with that note!

Hey, if it means a steak dinner, Brian will move heaven and earth to get it. :)

Allegedly, Brian and Scott had Corona beers while songwriting at Scotty's

Was Brian ever deemed an alcoholic? I know he drank his fair share, but if he was an actual alcoholic then conventional wisdom says he's not supposed to touch a drop. It sounds like he's allowed to, if he's monitored.

As for anything illegal, well...Maybe that's why they let him drink.

I love that story about the falsetto. AGD, you should compile a book of BW anecdotes.

More coincidence: I just made my first drink of the day (screwdriver) and came back to this thread to find this. Now I'm freaking out. Would you all kindly please stop spying on me???!!

 :p

He supposedly went to AA meetings when he was with Landy, but that might have been more for just healing in general and resocialization than anything. I don't think Brian was ever an alcoholic, but it was his "last resort" drug if he couldn't get coke, pot, etc.

BW anecdotes?? I'm not AGD, but here's one that was told to my wife and me by none other than Nelson Bragg; I've never known of anybody else to tell or hear this story. Nelson preceded the story with, "Only Brian Wilson can get away with this s**t." In 2003, Brian was in England getting an award (Ivor Novello, maybe???). At the reception, there were waiters dressed in black. Anyhoo, Bono -- who always dresses in black -- goes over to Brian, fawns over him like anybody else would..."Brian, it's a thrill to meet you! You've been such an inspiration to my music! etc. etc. etc." Brian's response: "Wow, thanks! Could you get me a Diet Coke?"

And the killer: BONO GOT HIM THE DIET COKE!!!

The question: did Brian really not recognize Bono and think he was another one of the waiters, or was he just seeing how far he could push someone and maybe give himself a laugh???

There's a whole thread with that stuff. Can't find it right now, but it definitely should be updated


EDIT: here it is :  http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,9198.0.html (http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,9198.0.html)

I'd love to have a spliff with Brian.

But if he freaked out and had a panic attack or something it could make me paranoid.

I'll bet he can roll a good'un though. You never lose the knack.

Joking aside though, much as with alcoholics, once a pot-head, always a pot-head. Even if he doesn't smoke anymore, he still thinks about it I would bet.

At a meet-n-greet though once (the second SMiLE performance no less) I went in stinking of skunk (grass). Brian was doing his normal no eye contact, smile only when a photograph is taken sort of thing. I asked him why he did these meet-n-greets as he so obviously hated it, and he looked up at me with this look of intense sadness in his eyes and said nothing.

Should have said "Come on Brian, I've skinned up a fatty-bombatty, lets get outta here"

Also met P A U L  M c C A R T N E Y (spelled to fool censor) Felt my hand going out to shake his. He is a B E A T L E.

Should have said "Hey Paul, here to steal  the rest of SMiLE are ya?????"

Regrets, I have a few..........

He still enjoys a heineken from time to time, no pot though.

what's the deal with the censorship of B EATLES? I must have been off the merry-go-round for that one.

Don't know, maybe the administrator was having a spliff and thought it would be funny,

The Beatles

John Lennon
Paul McCartney
George Harrison
Ringo Starr

and for good measure... Pete Best and Stuart  Sutcliffe...


There doesn't seem to be any filter to me.  ???

Nah, it got removed. It cracked me up, as I'm a juvenile bastard at heart  :(

Apparently Brian is pretty into desserts these days...

 :lol  When was he NOT into desserts?  Okay, there was probably a period when Landy stopped him from eating cake, cookies, ice cream, etc., but can't imagine he ever lost the sweet tooth.

As for recreational drugs... geez, let's hope not.  It'd be the last thing he needs to mix with his mental health issues and psychotropic medication.

A little misinformation going around this thread.... A spliff is actually a joint rolled with tobacco.  :hat

In regards to that, I'd be down to smoke one with Brian. I doubt he smokes anymore but maybe we could vape sometime.

I would smoke with Brian and go to a music studio to see if SMiLE Brian reemerges one last time.

I remember that too, and was going to post about it before I saw this. It was in Rolling Stone around the time of BWPS. I didn't know as much about Brian as I do now, but even then I remember thinking "Uh oh, that's probably not a good idea".

a spliff? more like a spl(http://i.imgur.com/5DhHo.gif)

Would I be able to get backstage if I brought a cake to one of his shows with the obvious intention of giving it to Brian? I could write "This cake's for you BRIAN WILSON" and hold it up randomly during the show!

I was thinking about doing the same with my Ronettes album on vinyl.

Oh look, one of my deranged fans has brought me a home-made birthday cake...

Cannabutter-infused, natch!

It's really none of our business, is it? I would hope not personally, but it's neither up to me, nor is it up to anyone in the world besides Brian himself, perhaps his wife and managers as well.

Perhaps his wife and managers as well.......classic. I love the fact you added that an afterthought.

Same here. I seem to recall various brief snippets that mention him merrily opening a can of beer and stating: 'just the one', and I am inclined to believe this. I don't really believe the folk psychology wisdom that a former addict can never touch one drop again. If the basic reasons for abuse have been removed/overcome and maybe grieved about in proper fashion, and if that person has found new happiness in life (e.g. kids to care about), then there is no reason that he/she should go AWOL on drink again after a few sips.
Folk psychology often is total garbage.

With Melinda and the kids around today, I doubt that Brian would go off the rails full tilt boogie like he did in the 1970's. But according to Brian himself, he did drink to excess. Especially around 1981-ish. But perhaps that might have been because Carl was gone.

Carl gone in 1981? Where to?

Anyway, Bri indeed seems to have imbibed enormous quantities of booze way back when. Ames Carlin somewhere writes about: 'rivers of alcohol', and in his purported autobiography, Brian talks about having drunk one cocktail after another in Australia (the infamous Sydney shows IIRC - Carl was audibly drunk also, as boots prove). Wouldn't be the only occasion where strong drink is used to ease the pain when other substances don't work that efficacious any more. Rickie Lee Jones admitted as much in a recent MOJO interview, she became an alcoholic when her heroin period was over.

Carl left to tour his solo album that year.

Ah, thanks. Much appreciated.

You mean like when Marilyn and the kids were around ? But I agree. I don't think Brian would get drunk or stoned or whatever today. If he did, his wife and doctors would react very quickly

 :-D sharp reply, that. And you're right: he's been clean now for so long that he's learned to enjoy everyday life more, IMHO. And others are taking care of things that he doesn't like to handle. I bet that when he's not working, he really likes to act the couch potato and watch some TV, with a steak, or a pizza, or a large bowl of ice cream.

Not in my case. I know that if I have one, I'll have another, and another... because I like the taste and the effect it has on me and because that's what happens when I like something - I want more. I have an addictive personality. And if I do that, I'd give myself maybe six months.

High time you switched to a monthly mushroom trip, friend. Like Brian recommends in Do You Like Worms? Which means, do you enjoy seeing worms while mushroom picking? Worms are the guardians of the mushrooms like the nagas guarded the Prajnaparamitas. It would be incorrect of me to say that this wasn't not a sole in the sun.

The only 'sole is the one your head's up.