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Title: Brian "blown away" by Smile Sessions Post by: juggler on July 27, 2011, 01:03:05 AM New Brian interview... Talks about recording some new songs in Illinois (Joe Thomas revisited?)... also mentions possible BB reunion...
But the money quote, of course, concerns the Smile Sessions, and it sounds like he may have heard the final product a couple days ago... Quote Elsewhere in the demon-confronting department, Wilson said he’s excited about finally releasing the recording sessions from “Smile,” his “teenage symphony to God,” which he attempted in the late 1960s only to be derailed by drug abuse and mental illness, among other factors. Wilson rerecorded the album with his new band and released it to critical acclaim in 2004, but he said he still hears magic in those old sessions, too. “I just listened to the reissue of the ‘Smile’ tapes a couple nights ago, and I was so blown away. I mean, I was blown away. It really took my mind away,” he said. “Fantastic music, it really is.” http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20110727/entlife/707279991/ Title: Re: Brian \ Post by: brother john on July 27, 2011, 01:17:18 AM I wonder if some of the back catalogue might be Still I Dream Of It or It's Over Now, both of which are two of the best songs he ever wrote, and have never been done justice to? I'd love hear Brian tackle these, they are the perfect songs for him to sing right now, and I'm sure he and the band could really do them justice.
And I'm glad he likes Smile! :) Title: Re: Brian \ Post by: Andrew G. Doe on July 27, 2011, 01:22:04 AM That's a helluva weird piece... stack it up against the tour schedule and you have to assume he's going back to St. Charles in mid-August:
7/29 - Grand Rapids, MI 7/30 - St. Charles, IL 7/31 - Clear Lake, IA 8/2 - Lexington, KY 8/3 - Atlanta, GA 8/5 - Hollywood, FL 8/6 - Clearwater, FL 8/24 - Saratoga, CA 8/25 - Napa, CA 8/27 - Cerritos, CA 8/29 - Agoura, CA ... assuming that something wasn't lost in the translation. And of course he won't be recording at his old place - even if you assume all the gear was sold with the house, it's been sitting there unused for over a decade, so I'd shudder to think what state the electrics are in. Title: Re: Brian \ Post by: Rocker on July 27, 2011, 02:39:24 AM I wonder if some of the back catalogue might be Still I Dream Of It or It's Over Now, both of which are two of the best songs he ever wrote, and have never been done justice to? I'd love hear Brian tackle these, they are the perfect songs for him to sing right now, and I'm sure he and the band could really do them justice. Hopefully something for a new Beach Boys-album. Well, at least I hope so Title: Re: Brian \ Post by: Pretty Funky on July 27, 2011, 02:48:31 AM http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/21/beachboy-brian-wilsons-fo_n_905690.html#s312947
Studio picture number 6. Title: Re: Brian \ Post by: Boiled Egg on July 27, 2011, 02:56:08 AM "more than six baths"?
this implies that either they stopped counting at that point, or that some areas that aren't technically bathrooms have been used for bathroomic purposes. perhaps there are a couple of sandboxes lying around... Title: Re: Brian \ Post by: rab2591 on July 27, 2011, 02:56:53 AM Disney album, Smile Sessions, new recordings, a biopic backed by some incredible people - what a fantastic year to be a fan!
Title: Re: Brian \ Post by: hypehat on July 27, 2011, 02:59:19 AM Does that mean it's finalised? I guess what Brian's told us is that he listened to 4-5 hours of tapes, then Mark & Alan have gone and whittled that down to at least the single disc's running order and possibly the sessions sequence, and now Brian's heard that? Which, as he's signed off (well, he likes it, so a reasonable assumption), I guess the less vocal members of BRI have too or are about to, and a tracklist is imminent........
Right? :lol Title: Re: Brian \ Post by: Andrew G. Doe on July 27, 2011, 03:19:08 AM Does that mean it's finalised? I guess what Brian's told us is that he listened to 4-5 hours of tapes, then Mark & Alan have gone and whittled that down to at least the single disc's running order and possibly the sessions sequence, and now Brian's heard that? Which, as he's signed off (well, he likes it, so a reasonable assumption), I guess the less vocal members of BRI have too or are about to, and a tracklist is imminent........ Right? :lol Everyone signed off on the project a considerable time ago. That was when Capitol switched into high gear (but don't tell Phil, he'll pitch a fit). Title: Re: Brian \ Post by: buddhahat on July 27, 2011, 03:20:52 AM Does that mean it's finalised? I guess what Brian's told us is that he listened to 4-5 hours of tapes, then Mark & Alan have gone and whittled that down to at least the single disc's running order and possibly the sessions sequence, and now Brian's heard that? Which, as he's signed off (well, he likes it, so a reasonable assumption), I guess the less vocal members of BRI have too or are about to, and a tracklist is imminent........ Right? :lol Sounds like running order must be finalised otherwise why would he be listening to it again (oh right, of course, he probably has a leaked version which he spins just for kicks and a trip down memory lane!) Great to hear him so effusive about it though. Title: Re: Brian \ Post by: hypehat on July 27, 2011, 03:24:30 AM Does that mean it's finalised? I guess what Brian's told us is that he listened to 4-5 hours of tapes, then Mark & Alan have gone and whittled that down to at least the single disc's running order and possibly the sessions sequence, and now Brian's heard that? Which, as he's signed off (well, he likes it, so a reasonable assumption), I guess the less vocal members of BRI have too or are about to, and a tracklist is imminent........ Right? :lol Everyone signed off on the project a considerable time ago. That was when Capitol switched into high gear (but don't tell Phil, he'll pitch a fit). I meant 'That's good, don't change it, lets get that sh*t in stores' rather than 'let's do the project'. Even I know they did that months ago.... probably just before Al spilled the beans.... Title: Re: Brian \ Post by: Andrew G. Doe on July 27, 2011, 04:22:14 AM Does that mean it's finalised? I guess what Brian's told us is that he listened to 4-5 hours of tapes, then Mark & Alan have gone and whittled that down to at least the single disc's running order and possibly the sessions sequence, and now Brian's heard that? Which, as he's signed off (well, he likes it, so a reasonable assumption), I guess the less vocal members of BRI have too or are about to, and a tracklist is imminent........ Right? :lol Everyone signed off on the project a considerable time ago. That was when Capitol switched into high gear (but don't tell Phil, he'll pitch a fit). I meant 'That's good, don't change it, lets get that sh*t in stores' rather than 'let's do the project'. Even I know they did that months ago.... probably just before Al spilled the beans.... Maybe. Title: Re: Brian \ Post by: juggler on July 27, 2011, 05:29:44 AM Does that mean it's finalised? I guess what Brian's told us is that he listened to 4-5 hours of tapes, then Mark & Alan have gone and whittled that down to at least the single disc's running order and possibly the sessions sequence, and now Brian's heard that? Which, as he's signed off (well, he likes it, so a reasonable assumption), I guess the less vocal members of BRI have too or are about to, and a tracklist is imminent........ Right? :lol I suspect that Brian's key language here is "I just listened to THE REISSUE of the ‘Smile’ tapes..." 'THE reissue' sounds like a final product. Now, of course, we know that because a Beach Boys 'Smile' package (a legit one, anyway) hasn't been previously released, this isn't technically a 'reissue.' However, Brian is probably used to thinking of new releases of his old Beach Boys recordings as "reissues," (which they generally are) so his choice of words isn't all that surprising. In any case, Messrs. Linett and Boyd should be very proud of having put together a package that has "blown away" the man himself. If they are not ecstatic about Brian's comments here, they should be. BW is the ultimate critic and isn't afraid of giving mediocre reviews to his own work. Declaring himself "so blown away" by this thing is a far cry from a my-wife-and-managers-think-it-should-come-out-so-what-can-I-say sort of review that I think we can all imagine Brian giving to something about which he's less than enthusiastic. Kudos to Mark and Alan and their team. Job well done! This may just be the most positive thing that Brian has said about Smile since 'Our next album will be better than "Pet Sounds". It will be as much an improvement over "Sounds" as that was over "Summer Days."' Title: Re: Brian \ Post by: desmondo on July 27, 2011, 05:41:12 AM That all sounds great - but PLEASE PLEASE give us some hard facts somebody
Title: Re: Brian Post by: Magic Transistor Radio on July 27, 2011, 06:22:14 AM "Smile will never come out. The tapes are destroyed."
Brian Wilson in the Endless Harmony doc ::) Title: Re: Brian Post by: The Shift on July 27, 2011, 06:31:10 AM "Smile will never come out. The tapes are destroyed." Brian Wilson in the Endless Harmony doc ::) "The earth is a flat disk centered at the North Pole and bounded along its southern edge by a wall of ice, with the sun, moon, planets, and stars only a few hundred miles above the surface of the earth" (paraphrased) – Samuel Birley Rowbotham (1816–1884) Title: Re: Brian \ Post by: The Heartical Don on July 27, 2011, 06:41:16 AM That all sounds great - but PLEASE PLEASE give us some hard facts somebody It is estimated that 2-3% of all people go through a phase of obsessive-compulsive disorder in their lifetime (the so-called prevalence rate). Now, OCD is underdiagnosed as well as invisible, in that most patients hide it from the outside world, and even from friends and relatives. In the disorder, the cortico-striatal-thalamo-cortical circuitry is out of balance. This causes the occurrence of obsessions (intrusive and very worrisome thoughts, and highly repetitive, hard to suppress) and compulsions (ritualistic behaviours that serve to diminish the impact of the obsessions). Neurotransmitters that have been shown to be involved in OCD are: serotonin, GABA, glutamate, and dopamine. Neural growth factors are also likely to play a part, e.g. brain-derived neurotrophic factor (BDNF). Typical OCD can present itself as an intense longing to obtain a desired object, such as the archival release of music of special interest to the person. The person will go to great (some doctors say: any) lengths to get hold of that item. They keep on ruminating about it, and lose sleep over it. They would be willing to risk a career in crime to get it. The most severe cases will purchase said release multiple times, to make sure there are sealed substitute copies at hand, should anything happen to the 'playing copy'. These people are known for their endless discussions on their single topic, and can't be distracted in any medically defensible manner. These are hard facts. My 'demonstration case' was, of course, chosen entirely at random. Title: Re: Brian \ Post by: desmondo on July 27, 2011, 06:54:37 AM That all sounds great - but PLEASE PLEASE give us some hard facts somebody It is estimated that 2-3% of all people go through a phase of obsessive-compulsive disorder in their lifetime (the so-called prevalence rate). Now, OCD is underdiagnosed as well as invisible, in that most patients hide it from the outside world, and even from friends and relatives. In the disorder, the cortico-striatal-thalamo-cortical circuitry is out of balance. This causes the occurrence of obsessions (intrusive and very worrisome thoughts, and highly repetitive, hard to suppress) and compulsions (ritualistic behaviours that serve to diminish the impact of the obsessions). Neurotransmitters that have been shown to be involved in OCD are: serotonin, GABA, glutamate, and dopamine. Neural growth factors are also likely to play a part, e.g. brain-derived neurotrophic factor (BDNF). Typical OCD can present itself as an intense longing to obtain a desired object, such as the archival release of music of special interest to the person. The person will go to great (some doctors say: any) lengths to get hold of that item. They keep on ruminating about it, and lose sleep over it. They would be willing to risk a career in crime to get it. The most severe cases will purchase said release multiple times, to make sure there are sealed substitute copies at hand, should anything happen to the 'playing copy'. These people are known for their endless discussions on their single topic, and can't be distracted in any medically defensible manner. These are hard facts. My 'demonstration case' was, of course, chosen entirely at random. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Title: Re: Brian \ Post by: Mikie on July 27, 2011, 08:14:12 AM It is estimated that 2-3% of all people go through a phase of obsessive-compulsive disorder in their lifetime (the so-called prevalence rate). Now, OCD is underdiagnosed as well as invisible, in that most patients hide it from the outside world, and even from friends and relatives. In the disorder, the cortico-striatal-thalamo-cortical circuitry is out of balance. This causes the occurrence of obsessions (intrusive and very worrisome thoughts, and highly repetitive, hard to suppress) and compulsions (ritualistic behaviours that serve to diminish the impact of the obsessions). Neurotransmitters that have been shown to be involved in OCD are: serotonin, GABA, glutamate, and dopamine. Neural growth factors are also likely to play a part, e.g. brain-derived neurotrophic factor (BDNF). Typical OCD can present itself as an intense longing to obtain a desired object, such as the archival release of music of special interest to the person. The person will go to great (some doctors say: any) lengths to get hold of that item. They keep on ruminating about it, and lose sleep over it. They would be willing to risk a career in crime to get it. The most severe cases will purchase said release multiple times, to make sure there are sealed substitute copies at hand, should anything happen to the 'playing copy'. These people are known for their endless discussions on their single topic, and can't be distracted in any medically defensible manner. These are hard facts. My 'demonstration case' was, of course, chosen entirely at random. Would you mind if I copy this to the “Smile Sessions Box Set” thread? I think this applies to those guys who are posting almost every day in that thread. Serious. Title: Re: Brian \ Post by: The Heartical Don on July 27, 2011, 08:17:35 AM It is estimated that 2-3% of all people go through a phase of obsessive-compulsive disorder in their lifetime (the so-called prevalence rate). Now, OCD is underdiagnosed as well as invisible, in that most patients hide it from the outside world, and even from friends and relatives. In the disorder, the cortico-striatal-thalamo-cortical circuitry is out of balance. This causes the occurrence of obsessions (intrusive and very worrisome thoughts, and highly repetitive, hard to suppress) and compulsions (ritualistic behaviours that serve to diminish the impact of the obsessions). Neurotransmitters that have been shown to be involved in OCD are: serotonin, GABA, glutamate, and dopamine. Neural growth factors are also likely to play a part, e.g. brain-derived neurotrophic factor (BDNF). Typical OCD can present itself as an intense longing to obtain a desired object, such as the archival release of music of special interest to the person. The person will go to great (some doctors say: any) lengths to get hold of that item. They keep on ruminating about it, and lose sleep over it. They would be willing to risk a career in crime to get it. The most severe cases will purchase said release multiple times, to make sure there are sealed substitute copies at hand, should anything happen to the 'playing copy'. These people are known for their endless discussions on their single topic, and can't be distracted in any medically defensible manner. These are hard facts. My 'demonstration case' was, of course, chosen entirely at random. Would you mind if I copy this to the “Smile Sessions Box Set” thread? I think this applies to those guys who are posting almost every day in that thread. Serious. Of course not... do as you like... Title: Re: Brian \ Post by: Chris Brown on July 27, 2011, 08:28:42 AM Exciting news all around - great year to be a fan indeed. I'm definitely curious about which old gems Brian might be recording, and what else the new studio album might contain. I was under the impression that Brian hadn't done much writing in the last 5 years (aside from the Gershwin "co-writes"), so does that mean he's overcome his writer's block?
Title: Re: Brian \ Post by: Dunderhead on July 27, 2011, 11:16:41 AM Everyone signed off on the project a considerable time ago. That was when Capitol switched into high gear (but don't tell Phil, he'll pitch a fit). :deadhorse Phil Cohen, official smiley smile bogeyman. Could this be the reason Brian was at capitol in those pictures last week? Hopefully this means the thing is done. If that's the case I hope that we could still see a September release. Title: Re: Brian \ Post by: Pretty Funky on July 27, 2011, 02:57:14 PM I think Brian was searched on his way in for a recording device, locked in a room to listen to the final product, searched on his way out in case he lifted the demo, then released.
During this time security prowled the Capitol Tower on the look out in case Al showed up! Title: Re: Brian \ Post by: hypehat on July 27, 2011, 05:34:16 PM Title: Re: Brian Post by: Magic Transistor Radio on July 27, 2011, 05:48:16 PM It is estimated that 2-3% of all people go through a phase of obsessive-compulsive disorder in their lifetime (the so-called prevalence rate). Now, OCD is underdiagnosed as well as invisible, in that most patients hide it from the outside world, and even from friends and relatives. In the disorder, the cortico-striatal-thalamo-cortical circuitry is out of balance. This causes the occurrence of obsessions (intrusive and very worrisome thoughts, and highly repetitive, hard to suppress) and compulsions (ritualistic behaviours that serve to diminish the impact of the obsessions). Neurotransmitters that have been shown to be involved in OCD are: serotonin, GABA, glutamate, and dopamine. Neural growth factors are also likely to play a part, e.g. brain-derived neurotrophic factor (BDNF). Typical OCD can present itself as an intense longing to obtain a desired object, such as the archival release of music of special interest to the person. The person will go to great (some doctors say: any) lengths to get hold of that item. They keep on ruminating about it, and lose sleep over it. They would be willing to risk a career in crime to get it. The most severe cases will purchase said release multiple times, to make sure there are sealed substitute copies at hand, should anything happen to the 'playing copy'. These people are known for their endless discussions on their single topic, and can't be distracted in any medically defensible manner. These are hard facts. My 'demonstration case' was, of course, chosen entirely at random. Would you mind if I copy this to the “Smile Sessions Box Set” thread? I think this applies to those guys who are posting almost every day in that thread. Serious. Of course not... do as you like... I don't think The Heartical Don is like Mike Love. That he would sue you for using his posts. Although, I have never met Don. Title: Re: Brian \ Post by: sockittome on July 27, 2011, 07:06:33 PM I think Brian was searched on his way in "Um, Mr. Wilson, why do you have so many lighters in your pocket? You don't smoke, do you?" Title: Re: Brian Post by: dmcguire70 on July 28, 2011, 07:06:10 AM "Smile will never come out. The tapes are destroyed." Brian Wilson in the Endless Harmony doc ::) Nope he said ,and i quote "I junked it-I thought is was inappropriate music to make" Title: Re: Brian Post by: Magic Transistor Radio on July 28, 2011, 08:09:20 AM "Smile will never come out. The tapes are destroyed." Brian Wilson in the Endless Harmony doc ::) Nope he said ,and i quote "I junked it-I thought is was inappropriate music to make" He said that too. But I am sure he said both. Or else my brain is not functioning because of all the cocaine I have been snorting. Title: Re: Brian Post by: sockittome on July 28, 2011, 04:42:26 PM "Smile will never come out. The tapes are destroyed." Brian Wilson in the Endless Harmony doc ::) Nope he said ,and i quote "I junked it-I thought is was inappropriate music to make" He said that too. But I am sure he said both. Or else my brain is not functioning because of all the cocaine I have been snorting. He can be seen throwing the tapes into the fireplace in the "American Family" movie. That settles it! :lol Title: Re: Brian Post by: Magic Transistor Radio on July 29, 2011, 08:08:47 AM "Smile will never come out. The tapes are destroyed." Brian Wilson in the Endless Harmony doc ::) Nope he said ,and i quote "I junked it-I thought is was inappropriate music to make" He said that too. But I am sure he said both. Or else my brain is not functioning because of all the cocaine I have been snorting. He can be seen throwing the tapes into the fireplace in the "American Family" movie. That settles it! :lol Total proof! I can't believe Andrew G Doe didn't catch that bit of historical evidence. :lol Title: Re: Brian Post by: dmcguire70 on July 29, 2011, 07:24:57 PM "Smile will never come out. The tapes are destroyed." Brian Wilson in the Endless Harmony doc ::) Nope he said ,and i quote "I junked it-I thought is was inappropriate music to make" He said that too. But I am sure he said both. Or else my brain is not functioning because of all the cocaine I have been snorting. He can be seen throwing the tapes into the fireplace in the "American Family" movie. That settles it! :lol Total proof! I can't believe Andrew G Doe didn't catch that bit of historical evidence. :lol LOL ,Nor can I! Title: Re: Brian Post by: Dove Nested Towers on July 29, 2011, 09:26:17 PM "Smile will never come out. The tapes are destroyed." Brian Wilson in the Endless Harmony doc ::) Nope he said ,and i quote "I junked it-I thought is was inappropriate music to make" He said that too. But I am sure he said both. Or else my brain is not functioning because of all the cocaine I have been snorting. He can be seen throwing the tapes into the fireplace in the "American Family" movie. That settles it! :lol Incontrovertible evidence, to be sure. :lol In all seriousness, not to cry over spilt milk, but in the general spirit of perfectionism and ambition for greatness that inspired Smile, a certain amount of music was lost as Brian tried to re-record and improve on his previous efforts, the quotes from ear-witnesses about H & V coming to mind, among others. Impossible to quantify of course, but to me that constitutes one of the saddest aspects of it not coming to fruition at the time, and extends to what is available for this set. Every working version or fragment that was taped over or otherwise lost to history is a minor tragedy. What exactly do we know about this, based on available information? If only Brian remembered or wanted to remember these kinds of details, it would be fascinating. |