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Title: Violated MOJO Copies
Post by: groganb on July 25, 2011, 10:22:29 PM
I finally came across the Smile MOJO issue in Seattle on vacation, and all three copies had been opened and the single removed.
So lame. What a disappointment. I thought Smile fans were better than this.


Title: Re: Violated MOJO Copies
Post by: Jon Stebbins on July 25, 2011, 11:10:42 PM
I finally came across the Smile MOJO issue in Seattle on vacation, and all three copies had been opened and the single removed.
So lame. What a disappointment. I thought Smile fans were better than this.
I thought MOJO was better than the embarrassingly weak job they did on the issue.


Title: Re: Violated MOJO Copies
Post by: buddhahat on July 26, 2011, 01:22:29 AM
When I read the thread title I wondered if AGD, pushed to breaking point by the insane factual indequacy of the Smile articles, had bought a batch of these special editions and done something unspeakable to them!


Title: Re: Violated MOJO Copies
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on July 26, 2011, 01:23:38 AM
"Insane factual indequacy".

I like that. I like it a lot.  ;D


Title: Re: Violated MOJO Copies
Post by: buddhahat on July 26, 2011, 01:24:53 AM
"Insane factual indequacy".

I like that. I like it a lot.  ;D

Gah, the irony of you picking me up on that typo!  :-D


Title: Re: Violated MOJO Copies
Post by: LostArt on July 26, 2011, 04:41:11 AM
I thought Smile fans were better than this.
I guess you haven't been reading this board much in the last couple of months.   


Title: Re: Violated MOJO Copies
Post by: Shady on July 26, 2011, 08:03:55 AM
That is terrible but not surprising

Hope you found a Vinyl copy anyway


Title: Re: Violated MOJO Copies
Post by: SMiLE Brian on July 26, 2011, 08:33:38 AM
When I read the thread title I wondered if AGD, pushed to breaking point by the insane factual indequacy of the Smile articles, had bought a batch of these special editions and done something unspeakable to them!
Probably burned them after reading the part that said Brian had a sister named Maureen Wilson...


Title: Re: Violated MOJO Copies
Post by: guitarfool2002 on July 26, 2011, 09:24:20 AM
Don't equate Smile fans with record collectors. Or more specifically record dealers. :)


Title: Re: Violated MOJO Copies
Post by: Rich Panteluk on July 26, 2011, 02:59:41 PM
I am also having trouble locating the mojo special (with or without the 45).  I'd prefer not to go the ebay route to avoid the pirates.  I would love it if anyone could hook me up with one (preferably with the 45) - I can send cash via paypal...

On a somewhat related note, I went to record fair recently and came across two new sealed copies of the RSD 10 inch GV / H&V.  I already have one but I thought I'd pick up a couple of extras and see if anyone still needed it.  I would love to trade for other rare stuff (new mojo w/ 45, or other htf BB or BW goodies).  PM me if interested.


Title: Re: Violated MOJO Copies
Post by: Runaways on July 27, 2011, 04:54:50 PM
i'm at barnes and noble right now, i was walking around the magazine racks when i saw like 5 of the mojo specials sitting on the shelf. HELL YEAH.  just grabbed one, complete with single.  awesomesauce.


Title: Re: Violated MOJO Copies
Post by: The Heartical Don on July 28, 2011, 05:51:10 AM
When I read the thread title I wondered if AGD, pushed to breaking point by the insane factual indequacy of the Smile articles, had bought a batch of these special editions and done something unspeakable to them!
Probably burned them after reading the part that said Brian had a sister named Maureen Wilson...

Eh, did they really write that??? MOJO didn't do too badly in the BBs department over the years; I recall stuff by Bill Holdship and others that I liked. If they wrote this, it's proof of the mag's downfall...


Title: Re: Violated MOJO Copies
Post by: ESQ Editor on July 28, 2011, 10:47:03 AM
I went the EBay route, and it took 20 days to arrive.

Andrew should have been the guy to write the article on SMiLE for MOJO, or MOJO should have, at the very least, asked him to proof read the content. I thought Harvey Kubernik's q&a's with Brian, Mike and Al were pretty good; particularly Brian's.

The collectible single is great, but I think anyone can steal it for the sake of reselling it. It doesn't have to be a Beach Boy fan. Either way, a thief is a thief.

MOJO, for the most part, should be ashamed of the packaging stating: "SMiLE — It's here! At last! THE FULL STORY." They could have come up with a variety of captions that would have been for more accurate than the one they used.

"Insane factual indequacy" indeed.


 


Title: Re: Violated MOJO Copies
Post by: Margarita on July 28, 2011, 01:48:05 PM
I got mine today at Barnes & Noble as well, in the Chicago suburbs.  There were about 5-6 issues on the shelf.  It was $16.50, which to me is worth it for the gorgeous single and the very nice photographs, some of which I've never seen.  I still haven't finished reading the articles; after "sister Maureen", I flipped through the rest and saw that the photo taken inside the tent was captioned "with Banana (or possibly Louie)".  Really?  If I know that the Beagle is Banana, then why doesn't Big Professional Rock Mag know?  Ridiculous and lazy.


Title: Re: Violated MOJO Copies
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on July 28, 2011, 02:21:15 PM
Andrew should have been the guy to write the article on SMiLE for MOJO, or MOJO should have, at the very least, asked him to proof read the content. 

I offered to check it for them when someone tipped me the wink that there could well be 'problems'. No response.


Title: Re: Violated MOJO Copies
Post by: Magic Transistor Radio on July 28, 2011, 06:24:50 PM
When I read the thread title I wondered if AGD, pushed to breaking point by the insane factual indequacy of the Smile articles, had bought a batch of these special editions and done something unspeakable to them!
Probably burned them after reading the part that said Brian had a sister named Maureen Wilson...

Eh, did they really write that??? MOJO didn't do too badly in the BBs department over the years; I recall stuff by Bill Holdship and others that I liked. If they wrote this, it's proof of the mag's downfall...

Its possible that Brian said that he had a sister named Maureen in some interview when he was under the influence of something


Title: Re: Violated MOJO Copies
Post by: bgas on July 28, 2011, 08:34:58 PM
there's always one.


Title: Re: Violated MOJO Copies
Post by: Roger Ryan on July 29, 2011, 06:49:01 AM
When I read the thread title I wondered if AGD, pushed to breaking point by the insane factual indequacy of the Smile articles, had bought a batch of these special editions and done something unspeakable to them!
Probably burned them after reading the part that said Brian had a sister named Maureen Wilson...

Eh, did they really write that??? MOJO didn't do too badly in the BBs department over the years; I recall stuff by Bill Holdship and others that I liked. If they wrote this, it's proof of the mag's downfall...

Its possible that Brian said that he had a sister named Maureen in some interview when he was under the influence of something

That's what "(sic)" is for!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sic


Title: Re: Violated MOJO Copies
Post by: seanmurd on July 29, 2011, 12:58:58 PM
When I read the thread title I wondered if AGD, pushed to breaking point by the insane factual indequacy of the Smile articles, had bought a batch of these special editions and done something unspeakable to them!
Probably burned them after reading the part that said Brian had a sister named Maureen Wilson...

Eh, did they really write that??? MOJO didn't do too badly in the BBs department over the years; I recall stuff by Bill Holdship and others that I liked. If they wrote this, it's proof of the mag's downfall...

I'm not going to defend that mistake -- it's pretty bad -- but I'm going to guess that it was an EDITING error rather than a RESEARCH error. Here's the mistake in context:

Quote
"Back at the house, he [Brian] sat at the piano and figured out the parts. He gave them to his mother and his youngest brother Carl, 13, to sing, recording them on a tape recorder he received for Christmas and singing over the playback. His sister Maureen also became part of the group."

Note that it never says "Brian's sister Maureen" or "Maureen Wilson" -- THAT would be poor research. It IS possible that there was more to that paragraph that got cut, leaving the "his" to accidentally refer to Brian and not Mike. Perhaps the paragraph originally went more like this:

Quote
"Back at the house, he [Brian] sat at the piano and figured out the parts. He gave them to his mother and his youngest brother Carl, 13, to sing, recording them on a tape recorder he received for Christmas and singing over the playback. Cousin Mike Love was invited in to add his deeper voice to the mix; his sister Maureen also became part of the group."

I don't know why I'm bothering to try to explain (or understand) this error -- it should have been caught either way. But I've done plenty of copy-editing (and proof-reading) myself, and I can see how these kind of things happen. There are plenty of other mistakes in the article that are less forgiveable, and in fact the new regular MOJO with the McCartney cover is also riddled with typos -- so I guess proof-reading is not MOJO's strong suit.

P.S. -- I find the typos in the Billboard articles from March -- "segue ways" anyone? -- far more offensive. It's BILLBOARD, for cryin' out loud!


Title: Re: Violated MOJO Copies
Post by: Mike's Beard on July 29, 2011, 01:39:59 PM
I've never heard of this MOJO thing you're all talking about, but I sure do have a large pile of Playboy magazines that I've violated!!


Title: Re: Violated MOJO Copies
Post by: Runaways on July 29, 2011, 01:43:33 PM
what the


Title: Re: Violated MOJO Copies
Post by: seanmurd on August 12, 2011, 05:38:28 PM
I was enjoying my cleaned-up needledrop of the MOJO single the other day, and the somewhat obvious occurred to me -- both songs ("Cabinessence" and "Wonderful") feature fade-outs nearly identical to the versions we know from 20/20 or the Good Vibes box. We've been fretting about whether any of the 1966/67 tracks would be digitally manipulated to match their BWPS counterparts -- and right in front of our noses (or ears) we have TWO tracks from The Smile Sessions (presumably the "Disc One" versions) that both have their usual fades. A clue?