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Haven't really been keeping up recently, but saw that in the upcoming esq something about Mike, Al, Bruce, and Brian re-recording Do It Again?  Sounds cool, does anyone have any details?  I looked at the recent threads but couldn't find anything.

http://www.examiner.com/beach-boys-in-national/summer-2011-edition-of-endless-summer-quarterly

No, God, no !!!!! They're doin' it again (no pun !!) 

They must be Gettin' Hungry for a hit.

Yes, they did. Late May.

But WHY ???  Who is their adviser ?
If it ever gets released, I hope it's just a bonus track that you can download on itunes like Brian's "Message man" etc.

And just look on the BeachBoysExaminer-site: There's a newly found Carl Wilson recording ! Another candidate for an album that features vintage recordings of Carl and Dennis.

I'm happy for anything new, especially if they record together.

The way I read that, "Waves of Love" is a bonus track on the physical release of A Postcard From California.  BMI.com lists the song as written by Larry Dvoskin & Al Jardine.

But ONLY if they record together. Not: Mike in his hotel room, Al at the Studio, Carl flown in, Brian over the phone....

I hope the reunion tour will be called "Do it again"-tour. Then a re-recording would make at least some sense. But by God, no other re-recordings for cryin' out loud.



So Al is wasting those Carl-vocals and using them for his own albums instead of giving them to the Beach Boys for the new album ?  :-D    Just kidding, but I take my jokes seriously....

If you can get Carl's vocal any other way, I'd love to see it. ;)

I don't think "Do It Again" lends itself particularly well to re-recording. To this day I haven't even heard a live version I really enjoyed, with the notable exception of the Live in London '69 recording.

The Beach Boys EVP sessions are being released next year apparently.. :P ;)

I managed to contact LD about a question asked on the Capitol board about his dealings with The Beach Boys. He kindly posted his answer there:
http://thebeachboys.forumsunlimited.com/index.php?/topic/6654-larry-dvoskin (http://thebeachboys.forumsunlimited.com/index.php?/topic/6654-larry-dvoskin)

The little bird who heard it through the grapevine told me the session went badly, and ended with major disagreements. I guess in a way that really is getting together and doing it again.

sh*t on a stick, who did Bruce pistolwhip this time?

I'd rather listen to the fight than the re-recording.

Yikes, that's a disappointment.

What they should have done is recorded the fight and then put it at the beginning of a new recording of TM Song!!!!

Someone in an Adolf Hitler mask.

Would you really expect it to turn out any differently? Predictable....and the primary reason not to re-plow that road.

Jon - Why no David Marks?  Kinda makes my blood boil that they'd do something like this without David.  Maybe they'd get along better with David around.  He seems to have a calming influence.

David could get them to stop fighting because he is on good terms with all of them.

Ugh, IMO not a good idea but it's nice that they are recording together

In an earlier thread, ESQ Editor posted this about the "Do It Again" sessions:

   


http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,10436.msg191093.html#msg191093

Yes, that's been confirmed by Alan himself.

Actually it is the best news I've heard all day.  We don't need a crappy re-recording of a decent song. 

I'm guessing he wasn't in CA at the time.

They are gonna blow it ! They already started ! Unfortunately this was the last chance they'll ever have.....












expecting Stars & Stripes vol.2

Benig a Beach Boys fan...

The guys we are supposed to admire are recording for the first time in fifteen years (equal to the time span between Surfin' and 15 Big Ones, BTW)  and we're already hating it.

Damn sure we do!  >:D

Yup, as true fans we hate what they haven't even planned yet.       :p

Erm… I'm sorry, I'll read that again…      ::)

If it were new stuff, I would have high hopes. But re-recordings are one of the worst things you can do in music. No matter how good it may be as a recording, it's undercutting your own legacy. The Beach Boys went down that path too many times. They should know. On the other hand if there's something the Beach Boys are really constant in, then it's not learning from their own faults.
Again, here's hoping that Do It Again will be the only re-recording and just as the theme for the DIA-reunion-tour. 

Besides the 2 songs on SIP, where else have "The Beach Boys" done this, or are you also referring to the NASCAR CD and the such?

I hope this session was just a warmup to see if they can still work together in the studio on new material.

If they did it with no intention of releasing it, just to see if they can work together, from Stebbin's bird, it sounds like the answer is that they can't still work together.

This band needs the guys from VH1's "bands reunited" or a therapist to work out their problems because if what Stebbin's source said is true, it is truly sad that a band is still fighting on the verge of its 50th anniversary.

Right...and he wasn't told about it until after it happened.

Do Mike, Bruce, Al & Brian consider David to be a Beach Boy?  It sounds like being in CA had nothing to do with it, if he wasn't told about it until after it happened.  Are they talking to David about the 50th anniversary activities?

Maybe they were just having a little spat over Mike's logo designs. Although the scope of those design options is probably limited to: A. a surfboard or B. a beach ball

Recently I was told, in response to my observation that David needed to be a major part of any 50th anniversary plans, "the door is open".

Does that mean that they are actively involving him in projects?  It would seem that the door is slightly cracked if they are not inviting him to recording sessions.

I appreciate your effort. Lets hope they tell him where the door is, and when they'll be inside of it.

I think David should be brought out like a special guest for the songs he was involved in but he's not necessarily needed for the Al Jardine era

There was a two album overlap - Surfer Girl and Little Deuce Coupe.

Someone will have to fill in for Brian, while he's filling in for Carl and Dennis, So that person might as well be David.

And oldsurferdude can fill in for Mike's backstage masseuse

How about Stars & Stripes Vol. 1?

The Al Jardine Era

Love it

I think after Dave has played Chug-a Lug, Al should symbolically float down onto the stage in a giant dentists chair and knock Dave off the stage with a huge toothbrush.

Or have a Murry Wilson impersonator "fire" David from the group. Brian might freak out though seeing "Murry" again.

With an enormous papier-mache head

Mark Dillon already answered, but you could stretch it to Brian's re-recordings but I was really talking about the "undercutting your own legacy"-part, which is not only meaning, but including, re-recordings.



Why can't Alan Boyd and Jon Stebbins take over ? They'd do a good job....

I think re-recording Do It Again is a completely stupid idea. Especially since about 80% of the charm of that track is based upon the track itself and it's sound/feel, rather than on the strength of the tune.

How about a "Night Of The Living Bob" (1992 Madison Square Garden Dylan tribute) type of show where all kinds of acts could perform BBs songs and give little speeches/tributes, and the remaining Beach Boys could come out and do a set of their own at the end.

Seems like a quite fitting idea to me.

And, yeah, the giant Murray head could pace around at the front of the stage yelling "syncopate"!!!!

OR Roger Waters could get involved and redesign The Wall based upon Brian and have evil Murray and Mike puppets menacing him rather than the Schoolmaster and Mother!

LOL, reminds me of the giant inflatable Devil that AC/DC had(has?) at their concerts....

I can't wait for the day when an inflatable 'Murry' head is infuriatingly floating behind the gang as they sing 'Help Me Rhonda' haha
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Ok, I'm on the fence about the re-recording. It was done once for Brian's IJWMFTT album....and that one sounds really great. I don't see the harm in re-recording it, but I really don't see the point.

If the Boys do a studio reunion of sorts, I would love to see this:

Brian should write some NEW melodies, bring in Tony Asher, Van Dyke Parks, and Mike Love to write lyrics (after Mike and Parks get done fist-fighting in the parking lot), get remaining Wrecking Crew members to record the instrumentals on ANALOG, and get Brian, Mike, Bruce, David, and Al to sing vocals.

Make it a true studio reunion (sadly minus Carl and Dennis).

"Mike Love: Beach Boys Planning New Album for 50th Anniversary"

http://www.billboard.com/news/mike-love-beach-boys-planning-new-album-1005295392.story#/news/mike-love-beach-boys-planning-new-album-1005295392.story

If they REALLY are doing a reunion album, it's kinda of fun idea to say musically, "We're doing it again".
With a different arrangement and blazing David Marks guitar solo, it could be cool!

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