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Title: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: Howie Edelson on May 12, 2011, 01:40:21 PM Obviously David performing the entire show with backing by...
Billy Ed Carter Scott Totten John Cowsill Christian Love Matt Jardine Jeff Darian Bennett Cameos: Blondie & Ricky Carl B. & Justyn Carnie & Wendy Stamos Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: SloopJohnB on May 12, 2011, 02:03:05 PM Jeff No. I want at least one song from Love You. ;D Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: Andrew G. Doe on May 12, 2011, 02:25:40 PM Stamos NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!! Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: Jason on May 12, 2011, 02:29:39 PM Scratch Foskett and have Blondie and Ricky as "full members", which, you know, THEY WERE!
Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: punkinhead on May 12, 2011, 02:30:13 PM Jeff No. I want at least one song from Love You. ;D Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: Jason on May 12, 2011, 02:34:43 PM Jeff No. I want at least one song from Love You. ;D And have you noticed how it hasn't been heard since? :) Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: Musketeer on May 12, 2011, 02:39:22 PM Nevermind. ;D
Sorry, I had a senior moment. Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: Jason on May 12, 2011, 02:41:51 PM Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: Mikie on May 12, 2011, 02:44:55 PM For the 50th, I'll hire:
Briiiiaaaannnn Willllssssoooonnnn! Michael Love Al Jardine Dave Marks Blondie Chaplin Ricky Fataar Bruce Johnston (if nothing else, he could wear white shorts and walk across the stage clapping and waving at the audience). Backup Musicians: Billy Hinsche Darian Sahanaja (guy with the funny hair) Steady Eddie Carter Matt Jardine Jeff Foskett (CEO of Falsetto) Scott Totten Bobby Figueroa Charles Lloyd Richie Cannata Daryl Dragon (invited but not expected to play) John Stamos (eye candy for the women only) Backgrounds: Carnie and Wendy Wilson The Honeys (maybe) Swap out the guys below at your discretion: John Cowsill (helluva drummer) Scott Bennett (helluva guitar player) Too many guys on stage will step on each others' toes so either different guys come out on stage at various times or you gotta narrow down the lineup. Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: Jason on May 12, 2011, 02:51:49 PM Brian Wilson
Michael Love Al Jardine Bruce Johnston Blondie Chaplin Ricky Fataar David Marks Backup band - Billy Hinsche Ed Carter Matt Jardine Scott Totten Bobby Figueroa Christian Love John Stamos John Cowsill Scott Bennett Darian Sahanaja Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: OBLiO on May 12, 2011, 02:53:08 PM Don't forget about Bobby Figueroa.
Why not have all the band line-ups there... do one big concert with everybody there and film it... make it a film... give everybody an interview... different line-ups play certain songs... with a California coast in the background, this time... yes? no? maybe? Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: Mikie on May 12, 2011, 02:56:34 PM Don't forget about Bobby Figueroa. I didn't. Helluva drummer and percussionist. Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: drbeachboy on May 12, 2011, 03:02:59 PM Double drumming from Fataar & Cowsill would be very cool. I once saw a show in Tempe, AZ in 74 I believe, and it was a rockin' affair with both Dennis & Ricky side by side on the kits.
Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: SurfRiderHawaii on May 12, 2011, 03:04:59 PM Obviously David performing the entire show with backing by... Billy Ed Carter Scott Totten John Cowsill Christian Love Matt Jardine Jeff Darian Bennett Cameos: Blondie & Ricky Carl B. & Justyn Carnie & Wendy Stamos Carl B. & Justyn Carnie & Wendy Stamos were never in the Beach Boys. A show would be preciously short as is. I understand the sentimentality to Dennis and Carl but I'd rather see Carl B. & Justyn introduce a film clip, at the most. Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: bgas on May 12, 2011, 03:07:50 PM Too many guys on stage will step on each others' toes so either different guys come out on stage at various times or you gotta narrow down the lineup. Or get a bigger stage! Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: drbeachboy on May 12, 2011, 03:09:53 PM Stamos has performed long enough with the Boy's to warrant inclusion.
Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: Mikie on May 12, 2011, 03:12:29 PM I once saw a show in Tempe, AZ in 74 I believe, and it was a rockin' affair with both Dennis & Ricky side by side on the kits. I saw that too, out in Oakland. I also saw Dennis and Figueroa do the same. Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: Andrew G. Doe on May 12, 2011, 03:12:59 PM Stamos has performed long enough with the Boy's to warrant inclusion. Three words: An American Family. Contemptible. Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: OBLiO on May 12, 2011, 03:13:17 PM I didn't. Helluva drummer and percussionist. I think 3 of us posted at the same time... :) and yes he is... he's a good teacher, too. Plus, he keeps the Beach Boys music alive on his own. I was surprised to see him left off the original posters list.Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: drbeachboy on May 12, 2011, 03:19:09 PM Stamos has performed long enough with the Boy's to warrant inclusion. Three words: An American Family. Contemptible. Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: Howie Edelson on May 12, 2011, 03:32:23 PM My post is merely a compromise. As much as I would LOVE Blondie and Ricky to perform the whole show, they won't be asked to -- Blondie says that he would definitely play if asked. I'm trying to be as realistic as possible -- e.g. Stamos. Obviously no one on THIS board would have him on their personal shortlists; but it's a safe assumption that Mike would boot his own kid off the gig to make room for Stamos. It's a given that at the very least he'd be invited. As much as I'd love to see Ricky behind the drums, I seriously doubt there would be enough money in the budget to hire him for rehearsals and a full on production (he and Blondie are the few performers who have successful careers outside of the group.) As far as the kids -- Matt Jardine WAS part of the band, bottom line: Carnie & Wendy are Wilsons, and I'd trade just about everyone on the list to have Carl B. perform the entire show -- as he personally told me he would if asked. As far as special guests, there's no way that a show(s) would take place without them. Rolling Glen Campbell (and Gloria Loring) back up there just won't cut this time out.
Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: Mikie on May 12, 2011, 03:51:24 PM Blondie's a Stone's throw from joining the Beach Boys' 50th reunion gig. Here he is warming up for it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reP5gImvF-c Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: Mikie on May 12, 2011, 03:57:07 PM You know, to do a full-blown reunion concert or concerts, you'd really need Carl Wilson there to lead the band. Could Scott Totten fulfill this task of organizing and arranging if it were to happen? Pure speculation of course that there even would be a gig or two.....
And you gotta invite Van Dyke Parks, Tony Asher, and maybe, just maybe..........Jack Reilly to the festivities. Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: Howie Edelson on May 12, 2011, 04:03:19 PM I think Scott Totten and Darian could easily produce a show that would make the majority of fans -- both casual and die-hard -- happy.
Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: Jason on May 12, 2011, 04:14:17 PM Scott Totten and Darian working together could create a real burner of a show. Billy Hinsche as a third mind to bounce ideas off is always good, too.
Darian and Billy always get lots of credit for their shaping of their respective groups' live sound, but Scott deserves just as much credit. Granted, as far as Michael and Bruce's band is concerned, Chris Farmer was instrumental in tightening up the band in 2004-07 (when they really needed to do it) when he was the musical director, but with Scott taking over as musical director the band has become even tighter than before. Don't let a few embarrassing TV performances distort your view of Michael and Bruce's group - they put on a damn fine show, whether it's a meat-and-potatoes show or an extended, more "fan-oriented" (for lack of a better term) show. You won't be disappointed. Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: Mikie on May 12, 2011, 04:21:03 PM No mention of Mike Kawalski yet, who was with the band for quite awhile (since 1968?). Burrrrrrrrrnnnnn!
And if Mike Meros was still around, he and Darian could trade off nicely on the keys. Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: Jason on May 12, 2011, 04:25:28 PM Mike Meros and Elmo Peeler on dueling keyboards!
Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: Mikie on May 12, 2011, 04:30:08 PM Yeah, Elmo Peeler on the keys! 'Member him in the 70's?
Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: Jason on May 12, 2011, 04:37:05 PM Wasn't alive then, but I've seen him in bits of footage. He's in the Largo video. Carli Munoz and Billy Hinsche were also on keys around that time. The Tornadoes on horns. Later in '77 they had Gary Griffin and "the Professor" Ron Altbach on keys.
Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: punkinhead on May 12, 2011, 04:47:31 PM Jeff No. I want at least one song from Love You. ;D And have you noticed how it hasn't been heard since? :) Right, like it's such a bad song...he wasn't asking him to sing Solar System or JOhnny Carson....I've heard Jeff can be a Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: Jason on May 12, 2011, 04:49:43 PM It's no big surprise that the 1967-now stuff is pretty much absent from Brian's setlists. Apparently Jeff dictates the setlist more than we think.
And before the white knights come in, yes, I know exactly every song that Brian has played live in concert. So no defense necessary. Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: Mikie on May 12, 2011, 04:53:49 PM Yep! Munoz, Peeler, Figueroa, and Hinsche were all on the road together at about the same time. And Guercio on bass for awhile too. My favorite era as a fan!
Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: Jason on May 12, 2011, 05:02:24 PM 1977 was the year they would play an extended Feel Flows in concert. The Largo gig has a version going for almost 10 minutes. It's awesome.
Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: TdHabib on May 12, 2011, 06:36:13 PM I'd include Von Mertens and/or Probyn with some horns, the music is better for it.
Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: punkinhead on May 12, 2011, 08:18:56 PM 1977 was the year they would play an extended Feel Flows in concert. The Largo gig has a version going for almost 10 minutes. It's awesome. The almost 10 minute live version of Feel Flows I have on my ipod sounds like a drunken Carl Wilson on lead.Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: Jason on May 12, 2011, 10:31:46 PM Yeah, all three of the Wilsons were quite out of it in Largo. Dennis was the most together of the three of them, though. Carl was definitely feeling a few beers. Brian can be seen rubbing his nose all the time.
Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: The Shift on May 12, 2011, 11:01:24 PM Glad someone's mentioned Carli, the Beach Boys' answer to Billy Preston!
Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: metal flake paint on May 13, 2011, 01:59:32 AM The inclusion of Ernie Knapp and Stanley T. is indisputable ;D
Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: Andrew G. Doe on May 13, 2011, 02:02:57 AM Mike Meros and Elmo Peeler on dueling keyboards! Ummmmmmmmmm... getting Mike Meros on board might present a few problems. Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: Andrew G. Doe on May 13, 2011, 02:04:07 AM No mention of Mike Kawalski yet, who was with the band for quite awhile (since 1968?). Burrrrrrrrrnnnnn! Excellent reason for that, as anyone who saw Mike & Bruce 2004-2008 will testify. Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: doc smiley on May 13, 2011, 04:56:55 AM The Jardine boys seem to be missing from most of these suggestions... an argument can be made that Matt was as important a session player/singer
as anyone ? :o Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: Jonas on May 13, 2011, 05:48:57 AM Man this is awesome. I'm so glad I'm not the only one who doesnt care for Foskett being there.
YES FOR LOVE YOU! Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: Mikie on May 13, 2011, 07:01:49 AM Excellent reason for that, as anyone who saw Mike & Bruce 2004-2008 will testify. Yeah, what happened to him, anyway? Was it age? He wasn't always bad. Then his timing just went South. I remember some concert-attending fans kept complaining about him but they kept him anyway for quite awhile. Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: Mikie on May 13, 2011, 07:04:31 AM The Jardine boys seem to be missing from most of these suggestions... an argument can be made that Matt was as important a session player/singer as anyone ? :o You must not have read my list. Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: Jason on May 13, 2011, 07:21:26 AM Mike Meros and Elmo Peeler on dueling keyboards! Ummmmmmmmmm... getting Mike Meros on board might present a few problems. Yes, I'm well aware he's passed on. Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: punkinhead on May 13, 2011, 08:34:11 AM Man this is awesome. I'm so glad I'm not the only one who doesnt care for Foskett being there. I'm very confused by this post, at first, I can tell you don't like the Love You album (which I dont know how you can't like it and be a big BW fan, but that's a thread for another time)...but then you write: YES FOR LOVE YOU!, does that mean you do like it? ???YES FOR LOVE YOU! Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: Jason on May 13, 2011, 10:08:01 AM May I ask where it's even implied that Joe is a Love You hater? As far as I know he loves the album, from talking to him personally.
Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: Jonas on May 13, 2011, 10:37:23 AM I can tell you don't like the Love You album How did you get that from anything I said? Please explain. Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: punkinhead on May 13, 2011, 10:39:42 AM I can tell you don't like the Love You album How did you get that from anything I said? Please explain. I get your message now...long live Love You Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: Jonas on May 13, 2011, 01:08:18 PM I can tell you don't like the Love You album How did you get that from anything I said? Please explain. I get your message now...long live Love You Maybe you should concentrate all your effort into grading papers. If you messed up reading a Beach Boys message board, I feel bad for the student when you misread his answer. Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: Jason on May 13, 2011, 01:55:42 PM I can tell you don't like the Love You album How did you get that from anything I said? Please explain. I get your message now...long live Love You Maybe you should concentrate all your effort into grading papers. If you messed up reading a Beach Boys message board, I feel bad for the student when you misread his answer. The future of American education. Mindless state consumer beings FTW! Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: WaxOn on May 13, 2011, 01:58:13 PM Maybe you should concentrate all your effort into grading papers. If you messed up reading a Beach Boys message board, I feel bad for the student when you misread his answer. Bwahahaha! Student Paper Question: The distance d between points (-4 , -5) and (-1 , -1) is given by d = sqrt[ (-1 - -4) 2 + (-1 - -5) 2 ] Simplify. Student Answer: d = sqrt(9 + 16) = 5 Punkinhead: Does this mean you don't like the Love You Album? D- ! Student: WTF? Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: Jonas on May 13, 2011, 02:59:18 PM :lol
Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: punkinhead on May 13, 2011, 10:42:21 PM I can tell you don't like the Love You album How did you get that from anything I said? Please explain. I get your message now...long live Love You Maybe you should concentrate all your effort into grading papers. If you messed up reading a Beach Boys message board, I feel bad for the student when you misread his answer. Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: Phoenix on May 13, 2011, 10:44:24 PM Back on topic:
Beach Boys: Brian Mike Al Bruce David Ricky (it's not like they don't need a drummer!) Blondie (either onstage all night or in some sort of special cameo, singing lead on "Sail On Sailor" and if doing the cameo, also "Wild Honey") Backup Band: Ed Carter Billy Hinsche Jeff Foskett (I'm a fan. Don't hate! In 2011, NO ONE associated with any of the three bands does a better "Don't Worry Baby" IMO) Darian Sahanaja Matt Jardine John Cowsill* Christian Love* (tho I personally think his voice is a little too "wispy", he is family afterall AND a current member of the band!) *if Blondie & Ricky don't get the invite Possibly: Paul Mertens Probyn Gregory (there sure are a lot of guitarists onstage but his brass would come in handy) Scott Totten (if yet ANOTHER keyboardist is required) Exclusions: No Stamos (Matt's got the percussion covered and I'd rather hear David or Brian sing "Forever" ANY TIME!) Matt & Christian are the only kids invited because they actually served some extensive time. Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: SurfRiderHawaii on May 13, 2011, 11:22:30 PM I predict all three bands. David with Al's band open the show. Brian does a set (alternates with Mike every nite), Mike and Bruce, then 30 minds of the masses.
Ricky and Blondie show up for one concert. Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on May 14, 2011, 10:19:29 AM It's no big surprise that the 1967-now stuff is pretty much absent from Brian's setlists. Apparently Jeff dictates the setlist more than we think. That pisses me off so much...the post 1967 stuff happens to be my favorite -_- Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on May 14, 2011, 10:20:20 AM Maybe you should concentrate all your effort into grading papers. If you messed up reading a Beach Boys message board, I feel bad for the student when you misread his answer. Bwahahaha! Student Paper Question: The distance d between points (-4 , -5) and (-1 , -1) is given by d = sqrt[ (-1 - -4) 2 + (-1 - -5) 2 ] Simplify. Student Answer: d = sqrt(9 + 16) = 5 Punkinhead: Does this mean you don't like the Love You Album? D- ! Student: WTF? OMFG...punkinhead's a great guy, but that was some funny sh*t. :lol Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: Mike's Beard on May 14, 2011, 12:17:56 PM It's no big surprise that the 1967-now stuff is pretty much absent from Brian's setlists. Apparently Jeff dictates the setlist more than we think. That pisses me off so much...the post 1967 stuff happens to be my favorite -_- Yeah, maybe Jeff could duck out for a cheeseburger or ten while the rest of the guys rip into some Wild Honey and Love You material. Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: Jonas on May 14, 2011, 04:22:29 PM Or not show up at all...:shrug
Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: bgas on May 14, 2011, 04:24:57 PM Yeah, maybe Jeff could duck out for a cheeseburger or ten while the rest of the guys rip into some Wild Honey and Love You material. Or not show up at all...:shrug YEah. FBOW Brian evidently gets a lot of comfort from having Jeff there. Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: donald on May 14, 2011, 08:09:19 PM NO STAMOS!!!!!!!!!! C'mon!!!! He has been a novelty and a fan, little else. He is not part of any legacy.
Definitely Cowsill, the closest thing to Dennis in essential power and sound but possessing talent enough to handle the more complex material in spades. He can sing great and has star quality. Yeah! Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: punkinhead on May 15, 2011, 04:04:50 PM I can tell you don't like the Love You album How did you get that from anything I said? Please explain. I get your message now...long live Love You Maybe you should concentrate all your effort into grading papers. If you messed up reading a Beach Boys message board, I feel bad for the student when you misread his answer. The future of American education. Mindless state consumer beings FTW! Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: Jonas on May 16, 2011, 08:25:51 AM Whats an FBOW
Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: bgas on May 16, 2011, 09:02:40 AM Title: Re: I think this is a fair enough compromise for the 50th... Post by: guitarfool2002 on May 16, 2011, 10:06:39 AM John Stamos has more "star power" than nearly any of the musicians listed as supporting members, and would surely bring in more female fans than anyone else on the list, which equals bigger money and more success at the ticket office. And, though the truth may hurt, his image as a Beach Boy as seen in the Kokomo video, in several concert tours and videos, and on television sitcoms makes him more recognizable to a larger majority of people who say they like the Beach Boys' music than most anyone on that list.
Star power = money. I'm sure if anything develops (although now it's looking like a mess of too many musicians and too many competing versions of The Beach Boys, at least to me), Stamos will at least be invited to play something. |