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Title: The Good Vibrations Vocal Overdub Master Tape
Post by: branaa09 on April 18, 2011, 03:01:56 PM
Check this out, the tape may be gone but, with todays technology, it still may be possible to create a true Stereo Mix.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUaX52GbjSU


Title: Re: The Good Vibrations Vocal Overdub Master Tape
Post by: pixletwin on April 18, 2011, 03:08:57 PM
Cool! I hate watching the sound waves with that album cover right smack dab in the way though.  :lol


Title: Re: The Good Vibrations Vocal Overdub Master Tape
Post by: pixletwin on April 18, 2011, 03:26:00 PM
I would love to hear the isolated vocals...


Title: Re: The Good Vibrations Vocal Overdub Master Tape
Post by: hypehat on April 18, 2011, 03:29:47 PM
I would love to hear the isolated vocals...

My beach boys  holy grail, that


Title: Re: The Good Vibrations Vocal Overdub Master Tape
Post by: D409 on April 18, 2011, 03:34:18 PM
Very good indeed, just like the stereo mixes of Pet Sounds, there are details never before heard.


Title: Re: The Good Vibrations Vocal Overdub Master Tape
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on April 18, 2011, 03:37:59 PM
That's the best one I've heard yet - very smooth, very clean.


Title: Re: The Good Vibrations Vocal Overdub Master Tape
Post by: pixletwin on April 18, 2011, 04:37:19 PM
I wrote the fellow who made that and he says he is going to work on getting a good "vocals only" track.


Title: Re: The Good Vibrations Vocal Overdub Master Tape
Post by: branaa09 on April 18, 2011, 05:14:46 PM
I would love to have that software he used.  :)


Title: Re: The Good Vibrations Vocal Overdub Master Tape
Post by: rab2591 on April 18, 2011, 05:21:15 PM
Looks like he used Logic to assemble it. I'd love to know if there is a harmonic-audio extractor in Logic that I don't know about!


Title: Re: The Good Vibrations Vocal Overdub Master Tape
Post by: oldsurferdude on April 18, 2011, 06:01:58 PM
Best with headphones-I think I saw God. :spin


Title: Re: The Good Vibrations Vocal Overdub Master Tape
Post by: bgas on April 18, 2011, 08:05:29 PM
Best with headphones-I think I saw God. :spin

Hey, What'd you do with oldsurferdude?


Title: Re: The Good Vibrations Vocal Overdub Master Tape
Post by: PhilCohen on April 18, 2011, 08:15:18 PM
This is fabulous. This guy should offer his mix to Capitol. I wish I could have this on CD. I wonder what he could do with "I Get Around", "Surfin' Safari", "409" etc.


Title: Re: The Good Vibrations Vocal Overdub Master Tape
Post by: Austin on April 18, 2011, 08:35:15 PM
Hey guys, since that's actually my mix, let me add a few things about it:

First off, I used two apps to put it together: sonicWORX Isolate (http://www.prosoniq.com/editing-products/sonicworx/) for all the vocal extraction, and then Logic for the assembly, synchronization, and mixing. That was my first time with Isolate, and as I wrote before, I do think someone with better resources could top this (I'm just an audio tech student with too much free time). It takes a lot of precision to even do very simple parts; since the analysis file is huge and slow (10+GB total) and all I had was a laptop, I didn't try extracting parts more than a couple of times each.

The Logic stuff isn't anything beyond the included tools. Stereo imaging, EQ, de-noising, and I tried my best to duplicate Mark Linett's vocal treatment with the included reverbs...and probably failed. So it goes!  :lol

Quote from: pixletwin
I wrote the fellow who made that and he says he is going to work on getting a good "vocals only" track.

To reiterate: what I ended up with in the extraction were a bunch of individual little stems of vocals with bits of leftover mono track occasionally floating around. By the time these are all mixed together and combined with the stereo backing track, most of them are inaudible, but it does make a vocals-only mix difficult. Some sections, like the chorus, are really weird: Mike's voice sometimes combines with the cello, an isolated Brian sounds weirdly breathy because half of his voice is still locked into Al's track, etc. But others, like the bridge "...tations" or the interlude "aaah," are almost totally isolated; in the case of the latter, I have each voice on its own separate track.

And that damned tambourine. Let's not talk about that.

Anyway, let me see what I can do for vocals. Maybe if it was qualified heavily I'd get away with showing off all the artifacts. Still, I'd dearly love to see a better version of this produced. Hearing the end of the interlude in stereo was pretty unreal.


Title: Re: The Good Vibrations Vocal Overdub Master Tape
Post by: pixletwin on April 18, 2011, 08:59:01 PM
Hi Austin. I have listened to that mix you made and played it for all my friends... Everyone is really impressed. Thanks again for uploading it.  8)


Title: Re: The Good Vibrations Vocal Overdub Master Tape
Post by: brother john on April 19, 2011, 03:48:33 AM
Brilliant work, thank you so much.  :) :)


Title: Re: The Good Vibrations Vocal Overdub Master Tape
Post by: Steve Mayo on April 19, 2011, 05:31:27 AM
sounds great, nice job....


Title: Re: The Good Vibrations Vocal Overdub Master Tape
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on April 19, 2011, 05:46:39 AM
Hey guys, since that's actually my mix, let me add a few things about it:

First off, I used two apps to put it together: sonicWORX Isolate (http://www.prosoniq.com/editing-products/sonicworx/) for all the vocal extraction, and then Logic for the assembly, synchronization, and mixing. That was my first time with Isolate, and as I wrote before, I do think someone with better resources could top this (I'm just an audio tech student with too much free time). It takes a lot of precision to even do very simple parts; since the analysis file is huge and slow (10+GB total) and all I had was a laptop, I didn't try extracting parts more than a couple of times each.

The Logic stuff isn't anything beyond the included tools. Stereo imaging, EQ, de-noising, and I tried my best to duplicate Mark Linett's vocal treatment with the included reverbs...and probably failed. So it goes!  :lol

Quote from: pixletwin
I wrote the fellow who made that and he says he is going to work on getting a good "vocals only" track.

To reiterate: what I ended up with in the extraction were a bunch of individual little stems of vocals with bits of leftover mono track occasionally floating around. By the time these are all mixed together and combined with the stereo backing track, most of them are inaudible, but it does make a vocals-only mix difficult. Some sections, like the chorus, are really weird: Mike's voice sometimes combines with the cello, an isolated Brian sounds weirdly breathy because half of his voice is still locked into Al's track, etc. But others, like the bridge "...tations" or the interlude "aaah," are almost totally isolated; in the case of the latter, I have each voice on its own separate track.

And that damned tambourine. Let's not talk about that.

Anyway, let me see what I can do for vocals. Maybe if it was qualified heavily I'd get away with showing off all the artifacts. Still, I'd dearly love to see a better version of this produced. Hearing the end of the interlude in stereo was pretty unreal.

I'm sure interested parties have heard this, and are duly impressed.


Title: Re: The Good Vibrations Vocal Overdub Master Tape
Post by: Boiled Egg on April 19, 2011, 07:41:26 AM
impressed enough to take it down? or is my 'Could Not Load Movie' an iPhone thing?


Title: Re: The Good Vibrations Vocal Overdub Master Tape
Post by: rab2591 on April 19, 2011, 07:52:42 AM
impressed enough to take it down? or is my 'Could Not Load Movie' an iPhone thing?

Link works fine for me.


Title: Re: The Good Vibrations Vocal Overdub Master Tape
Post by: Boiled Egg on April 19, 2011, 07:57:40 AM
phew.


Title: Re: The Good Vibrations Vocal Overdub Master Tape
Post by: guitarfool2002 on April 19, 2011, 08:06:08 AM
Very enjoyable.


Title: Re: The Good Vibrations Vocal Overdub Master Tape
Post by: Roger Ryan on April 19, 2011, 09:21:23 AM
Great job - most of it sounded spectacular.

Also, you can really hear the split between Brian and Carl at the beginning of the third line of each verse in this version!


Title: Rockin' Great Good Vibrations!
Post by: WaxOn on April 19, 2011, 10:03:29 AM
Austin,
thanks for that!!!
All I can say is wow, that is by far (at least on the mediocre playback on my PC) the best I've heard!
Screw that "too compressed" crap, Capitol has released far worse for money.

As mentioned, hopefully they're not suitably impressed as in "take it down".

I'm sure somebody making the big $$ with the correct equipment could do something about the "damn tambourine".
Then again - it takes effort - and why bother when you can crank it out for the MP3 I'm deaf anyway crowd.

BTW, using an iphone I believe you'll need to get a youtube app since the default is Flash.
Steve and Flash don't play well together.  :-[


Title: Re: The Good Vibrations Vocal Overdub Master Tape
Post by: Custom Machine on April 19, 2011, 10:27:51 PM
Nice work!  In a few months it'll be interesting to compare this to The Smile Sessions stereo version.





Title: Re: The Good Vibrations Vocal Overdub Master Tape
Post by: PhilCohen on April 19, 2011, 11:25:35 PM
Nice work!  In a few months it'll be interesting to compare this to The Smile Sessions stereo version.





What makes you think that Capitol will attempt something similar(I.E. computer-created stereo)?


Title: Re: The Good Vibrations Vocal Overdub Master Tape
Post by: Jay on April 20, 2011, 12:05:03 AM
I just listened to this with headphones. My God...that was beyond words. To say "good job" just doesn't cut it. Thank you so much for doing it and getting it uploaded somewhere where we could all hear it!!! The version of "Do You Wanna Dance" is equally impressive. I'm sure some people would be willing to contribute a few dollars for you to be able to do further work.  ;) But this post and overall topic are very close to being against the rules, so I'll say no more.


Title: Re: The Good Vibrations Vocal Overdub Master Tape
Post by: Austin on April 20, 2011, 10:18:19 AM
Thanks everyone for the comments.

I think if Capitol were to ever put a tool like this to use, it wouldn't be for salvaging complete vocal lines out songs, but to simply isolate particular overdubs here or there. I've tried this tool out on a few other songs -- the break in "Girl Don't Tell Me," Mike's bridge vocal on "Wouldn't It Be Nice" -- and have gotten very promising results. Maybe this use scenario could result in remixes of songs / albums that are held up by just a few missing multitrack stems.


Title: Re: The Good Vibrations Vocal Overdub Master Tape
Post by: pancakerecords on April 20, 2011, 03:12:50 PM
Really an incredible mix.


Title: Re: The Good Vibrations Vocal Overdub Master Tape
Post by: Joshilyn Hoisington on April 20, 2011, 06:22:10 PM
Thanks everyone for the comments.

I think if Capitol were to ever put a tool like this to use, it wouldn't be for salvaging complete vocal lines out songs, but to simply isolate particular overdubs here or there. I've tried this tool out on a few other songs -- the break in "Girl Don't Tell Me," Mike's bridge vocal on "Wouldn't It Be Nice" -- and have gotten very promising results. Maybe this use scenario could result in remixes of songs / albums that are held up by just a few missing multitrack stems.

Have you tried the piano and guitar solos from SDSN Rhonda?