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« Reply #75 on: March 03, 2015, 10:15:06 AM »

Let me repeat for emphasis. It is of no consequence what others did.

And let me repeat your own words for emphasis: Obama is not really like many others. He is taking law-making powers, reserved for Congress.

Again, "what others did" was of great consequence when you were using it to suggest that Obama was unique in his use of powers. Only when it became the case that your point was a fabrication did the goal posts shift to this notion that what others did was of "no consequence." This is an excellent example of indoctrination: make a point and stand by it until it is impossible to do so any further, at which point you deny that the point was ever relevant to begin with.

The fact is that history can teach us valuable lessons. One valuable lesson is that you can learn a lot from people who want to suggest that history is meaningless.

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 We are in a bad place.

The US is in a far better place than most of the world. And most of the world is suffering a great deal because of US policies.

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And I do not care for the term "hysteria" or the nonsense of "mythology" that is alluded to.

I used the term once, but I was really using it not in the traditional medical sense (which has an appalling history) but rather in conjunction with "lunacy" - hence the term hysterical lunacy. That's unfortunately what these discussions amount to and I gave a concrete example of a claim that was both hysterical lunacy and mythological.

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We have concrete security issues that are unresolved, and threats from both within and without the country.

True, but of course the more prevailing issue is the threat the we pose on the world rather than the threat that others pose on us.

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It's time for action

Agreed - as suggested above, we'd find ourselves in a far more secure place if we ceased being the top contributors to global instability.

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and not discussion

Here, I disagree. I think discussion is crucial especially if one is suggested actions based off of false assumptions.

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And the president has a duty to follow and respect the branches of the government he was elected to lead.  And no amount of intellectualizing is going to change that.  

I agree. But when a President uses executive orders less than any other president in the last hundred years, and people act as if he has used them more, then we have population who is living in fantasy world. And this is extraordinarily dangerous. And given that Obama is not only doing what every President before him has done, but is doing it less, in this regard, I'd say the fantasy world represents a greater danger than the kind of thing that you are describing.
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