New album info (as it rolls out...)

[Disney Boy (1985)]

I just want The Beach Boys to be known for rocking again. The Smile Sessions was a huge disappointment and didn't have enough guitar-ness to be awesome. I can't wait for this new album to come out and completely tower over the release of the material from that ill-begotten era. I just get the feeling that this new studio effort is what everyone will be talking about for the next ten years instead of Smile.

This dude is a glutton for punishment >:

Don't know why, he's got a valid point. Smile was a blip on the BBs career radar screen. Some hit-like material would be fantastic and a breath of fresh air. "60's -type hit material, not '80s.

I would say the exact opposite is the case: the SMiLE cd and boxset has been a real reminder to the music-buying public at large re Brian and the Beach Boys experimental genius and their musical originality and credibility, recieving as it has almost universal praise and good reviews;

The opposite opposite is the case.  

1.  Nobody buys CD's anymore.  Even less people buy 100 dollar boxsets.  

2.  Out of the few people that actually Do buy CD's, none of them bought the Smile Sessions outside of people with usernames on this board, or people that are actually in Brian's band.  Nobody in Mike's band bought The Smile Sessions.  Bruce has one, but Capitol Records gave it to him for free.  He accidentally left it in a VFW lodge in Wisconsin about 4 months ago.  

3.  If the Beach Boys record an album full of Doris Day covers and call it "Summer's Gone"... it will sell at least twice as many copies as the Smile Sessions.

Just thought I'd put that back in perspective for you, you've kind of lost the plot.  

You need to eventually get to the point where you do not care what critics say about their music, and enjoy it because YOU enjoy it, not some snot-nosed kid who writes a review on Amazon and says he doesn't like their shirts.  

Who gives a sh*t what the critics thing, or what the Beach Boys legacy is?  If people don't enjoy the music, that's their loss, not mine.

Hmm yes, just one slight problem with everything you've just said, in that... it was all b*llocks!

The Smile box SOLD OUT in the UK. And of course critical evaluations play a part in the groups legacy (in any groups legacy for that matter...). Otherwise Jon Stebbins, Andrew G Doe, etc would just be wasting their time. It'd be nice to simply sheild oneself from everyone else's opinions and just think 'Yeah I'm right and everyone else is wrong', but some of us care so passionately about the group that the group's critical standing and reputation matters and is important to us.

Oh, and while i can't speak for the condition of your own nostrils, I'm 30 and mine are relatively snot-free. And I've never ordered anything on and/or written anything on Amazon in my life.

[Wilson Love]

I just want The Beach Boys to be known for rocking again. The Smile Sessions was a huge disappointment and didn't have enough guitar-ness to be awesome. I can't wait for this new album to come out and completely tower over the release of the material from that ill-begotten era. I just get the feeling that this new studio effort is what everyone will be talking about for the next ten years instead of Smile.

This dude is a glutton for punishment >:

Don't know why, he's got a valid point. Smile was a blip on the BBs career radar screen. Some hit-like material would be fantastic and a breath of fresh air. "60's -type hit material, not '80s.

I would say the exact opposite is the case: the SMiLE cd and boxset has been a real reminder to the music-buying public at large re Brian and the Beach Boys experimental genius and their musical originality and credibility, recieving as it has almost universal praise and good reviews;

The opposite opposite is the case.  

1.  Nobody buys CD's anymore.  Even less people buy 100 dollar boxsets.  

2.  Out of the few people that actually Do buy CD's, none of them bought the Smile Sessions outside of people with usernames on this board, or people that are actually in Brian's band.  Nobody in Mike's band bought The Smile Sessions.  Bruce has one, but Capitol Records gave it to him for free.  He accidentally left it in a VFW lodge in Wisconsin about 4 months ago.  

3.  If the Beach Boys record an album full of Doris Day covers and call it "Summer's Gone"... it will sell at least twice as many copies as the Smile Sessions.

Just thought I'd put that back in perspective for you, you've kind of lost the plot.  

You need to eventually get to the point where you do not care what critics say about their music, and enjoy it because YOU enjoy it, not some snot-nosed kid who writes a review on Amazon and says he doesn't like their shirts.  

Who gives a sh*t what the critics thing, or what the Beach Boys legacy is?  If people don't enjoy the music, that's their loss, not mine.

An honest and accurate rebuttal , thank you, Ron.

[Wilson Love]

I just want The Beach Boys to be known for rocking again. The Smile Sessions was a huge disappointment and didn't have enough guitar-ness to be awesome. I can't wait for this new album to come out and completely tower over the release of the material from that ill-begotten era. I just get the feeling that this new studio effort is what everyone will be talking about for the next ten years instead of Smile.

This dude is a glutton for punishment >:

Don't know why, he's got a valid point. Smile was a blip on the BBs career radar screen. Some hit-like material would be fantastic and a breath of fresh air. "60's -type hit material, not '80s.

I would say the exact opposite is the case: the SMiLE cd and boxset has been a real reminder to the music-buying public at large re Brian and the Beach Boys experimental genius and their musical originality and credibility, recieving as it has almost universal praise and good reviews;

The opposite opposite is the case.  

1.  Nobody buys CD's anymore.  Even less people buy 100 dollar boxsets.  

2.  Out of the few people that actually Do buy CD's, none of them bought the Smile Sessions outside of people with usernames on this board, or people that are actually in Brian's band.  Nobody in Mike's band bought The Smile Sessions.  Bruce has one, but Capitol Records gave it to him for free.  He accidentally left it in a VFW lodge in Wisconsin about 4 months ago.  

3.  If the Beach Boys record an album full of Doris Day covers and call it "Summer's Gone"... it will sell at least twice as many copies as the Smile Sessions.

Just thought I'd put that back in perspective for you, you've kind of lost the plot.  

You need to eventually get to the point where you do not care what critics say about their music, and enjoy it because YOU enjoy it, not some snot-nosed kid who writes a review on Amazon and says he doesn't like their shirts.  

Who gives a sh*t what the critics thing, or what the Beach Boys legacy is?  If people don't enjoy the music, that's their loss, not mine.

Hmm yes, just one slight problem with everything you've just said, in that... it was all b*llocks!

The Smile box SOLD OUT in the UK. And of course critical evaluations play a part in the groups legacy (in any groups legacy for that matter...). Otherwise Jon Stebbins, Andrew G Doe, etc would just be wasting their time. It'd be nice to simply sheild oneself from everyone else's opinions and just think 'Yeah I'm right and everyone else is wrong', but some of us care so passionately about the group that the group's critical standing and reputation matters and is important to us.

Oh, and while i can't speak for the condition of your own nostrils, I'm 30 and mine are relatively snot-free. And I've never ordered anything on and/or written anything on Amazon in my life.

The ship has sailed on the groups' "image", get in touch with reality. The only thing that matters is the music,

[Disney Boy (1985)]

I just want The Beach Boys to be known for rocking again. The Smile Sessions was a huge disappointment and didn't have enough guitar-ness to be awesome. I can't wait for this new album to come out and completely tower over the release of the material from that ill-begotten era. I just get the feeling that this new studio effort is what everyone will be talking about for the next ten years instead of Smile.

This dude is a glutton for punishment >:

Don't know why, he's got a valid point. Smile was a blip on the BBs career radar screen. Some hit-like material would be fantastic and a breath of fresh air. "60's -type hit material, not '80s.

I would say the exact opposite is the case: the SMiLE cd and boxset has been a real reminder to the music-buying public at large re Brian and the Beach Boys experimental genius and their musical originality and credibility, recieving as it has almost universal praise and good reviews;

The opposite opposite is the case. 

1.  Nobody buys CD's anymore.  Even less people buy 100 dollar boxsets. 

2.  Out of the few people that actually Do buy CD's, none of them bought the Smile Sessions outside of people with usernames on this board, or people that are actually in Brian's band.  Nobody in Mike's band bought The Smile Sessions.  Bruce has one, but Capitol Records gave it to him for free.  He accidentally left it in a VFW lodge in Wisconsin about 4 months ago. 

3.  If the Beach Boys record an album full of Doris Day covers and call it "Summer's Gone"... it will sell at least twice as many copies as the Smile Sessions.

Just thought I'd put that back in perspective for you, you've kind of lost the plot. 

You need to eventually get to the point where you do not care what critics say about their music, and enjoy it because YOU enjoy it, not some snot-nosed kid who writes a review on Amazon and says he doesn't like their shirts. 

Who gives a sh*t what the critics thing, or what the Beach Boys legacy is?  If people don't enjoy the music, that's their loss, not mine.

Hmm yes, just one slight problem with everything you've just said, in that... it was all b*llocks!

The Smile box SOLD OUT in the UK. And of course critical evaluations play a part in the groups legacy (in any groups legacy for that matter...). Otherwise Jon Stebbins, Andrew G Doe, etc would just be wasting their time. It'd be nice to simply sheild oneself from everyone else's opinions and just think 'Yeah I'm right and everyone else is wrong', but some of us care so passionately about the group that the group's critical standing and reputation matters and is important to us.

Oh, and while i can't speak for the condition of your own nostrils, I'm 30 and mine are relatively snot-free. And I've never ordered anything on and/or written anything on Amazon in my life.

The ship has sailed on the groups' "image", get in touch with reality. The only thing that matters is the music,

Yes, why not completely misunderstand what it is i'm saying? Oh, you already have. Well done.

[Runaways]

um i'm pretty sure more than 50 people bought the smile sessions.  unless we have the power to chart on billboard lol. if Ron was serious, that was pretty laughable. 

[Disney Boy (1985)]

um i'm pretty sure more than 50 people bought the smile sessions.  unless we have the power to chart on billboard lol. if Ron was serious, that was pretty laughable. 

Yes, see my previous post for a perfect one-word description of what he is talking. A clue: begins with B, ends with K, eight letters. Rhymes with frollocks.

Smile was a success; and the suggestion that it's positive reception isn't important to the group (and Brian) is just ridiculous...

[Disney Boy (1985)]

'Nobody in Mike's band bought the Smile sessions'?

Could this be the single worst rebuttal to an argument in the history of the English language?

Curious as to how you know though? You a personal friend of 'Mike's band'? Or did Mike officially announce 'No one in my band bought the Smile sessions'? Must've missed that one.

[Andrew G. Doe]

Someone's posted a release date of June 5th over on the Hoff, with UPC codes. That would make sense, two days before the TV special airs.

[Wilson Love]

'Nobody in Mike's band bought the Smile sessions'?

Could this be the single worst rebuttal to an argument in the history of the English language?

Curious as to how you know though? You a personal friend of 'Mike's band'? Or did Mike officially announce 'No one in my band bought the Smile sessions'? Must've missed that one.

I'm pretty sure Ron was being facetious in his remarks but  the truth lies therein.
It's obvious to me that he's addressing a "segment" of BBs fandom that tends to diminish the importance of Brians' (and the bands') work prior to Pet Sounds-Smile era. Maybe I'm wrong. Also the concern for the bands' image is ludicrous at this point.  If it wasn't for the flowery shirts, if it wasn't for Mikes dancing....come on the BBs are who they are, you can't change history and trying to convince "non-believers" into recognizing the greatness of their career as a complete entity is a toal waste of time. I've loved the music during the most difficult years to be a fan (late '60s) , so I know of what I speak.

[Iron Horse-Apples]

Someone's posted a release date of June 5th over on the Hoff, with UPC codes. That would make sense, two days before the TV special airs.

Fantastic.

I honestly never thought we'd get another album out of them, them meaning with Brian. I can't wait! Very excited.

June 6th 1988. When I first heard a Beach Boys album.

[runnersdialzero]

I just want The Beach Boys to be known for rocking again. The Smile Sessions was a huge disappointment and didn't have enough guitar-ness to be awesome. I can't wait for this new album to come out and completely tower over the release of the material from that ill-begotten era. I just get the feeling that this new studio effort is what everyone will be talking about for the next ten years instead of Smile.

I'm sorry, but any recordings of the Beach Boys or its members "rocking" since some time in the early 80s have almost always been hilariously bad and sounded extremely dated.  There are different approaches, really - "Morning Beat" is kind of a rock song, but "rocks" in a tasteful way. However, instances of this have been pretty rare.

Meanwhile, I've heard way too many things from these folks that sound like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84v9v1ucFxQ

And man, I just can't listen to this sort of sound without picturing some kind of "HILARIOUS" Full House-esque montage going over the top of it. Or a God damn baby dancing in the middle of it or something. Cliche rock chord progressions, sterile production, and no doubt, absolutely "silly" falsetto going on, probably supplied by Jeff.

No no no no no no no. This is the last thing I want to hear out of these kids nowadays. Besides, no Carl = no rock.

[hypehat]

Someone's posted a release date of June 5th over on the Hoff, with UPC codes. That would make sense, two days before the TV special airs.

f*** yeah. 

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

Besides, no Carl = no rock.

As great as Carl was, David is/was a better guitar player.

[Rocker]

Besides, no Carl = no rock.

As great as Carl was, David is/was a better guitar player.

"Rock" doesn't necessarily mean "guitar playing".

[Lowbacca]

Besides, no Carl = no rock.

No Carl no rock..? No Dennis no rock!

[Stegibo]

Besides, no Carl = no rock.

As great as Carl was, David is/was a better guitar player.

"Rock" doesn't necessarily mean "guitar playing".

Rock that Theremin!

[coco1997]

Someone's posted a release date of June 5th over on the Hoff, with UPC codes. That would make sense, two days before the TV special airs.

What's the Hoff?

[drbeachboy]

Someone's posted a release date of June 5th over on the Hoff, with UPC codes. That would make sense, two days before the TV special airs.

What's the Hoff?

The Steve Hoffman Forum. Steve Hoffman is a Mastering Engineer who has done work for DCC and Audio Fidelity, in case you don't know who he is.

[astroray]

06/05/12
[CD]: 5099960282422
[VINYL]: 5099946319913

[Alan Smith]

Someone's posted a release date of June 5th over on the Hoff, with UPC codes. That would make sense, two days before the TV special airs.

[stack-o-tracks]

Wow, so a little more than 2 months?

I wonder how long before that they will release a single...................................................

[Runaways]

single in a month i'd think?

[Shady]

Awesome news, were so close now

[Jaspy]

Besides, no Carl = no rock.

As great as Carl was, David is/was a better guitar player.

"Rock" doesn't necessarily mean "guitar playing".

Rock that Theremin!

Or bang that piano!
Happy Birthday, Elton!

[Disney Boy (1985)]

'Nobody in Mike's band bought the Smile sessions'?

Could this be the single worst rebuttal to an argument in the history of the English language?

Curious as to how you know though? You a personal friend of 'Mike's band'? Or did Mike officially announce 'No one in my band bought the Smile sessions'? Must've missed that one.

I'm pretty sure Ron was being facetious in his remarks but  the truth lies therein.
It's obvious to me that he's addressing a "segment" of BBs fandom that tends to diminish the importance of Brians' (and the bands') work prior to Pet Sounds-Smile era. Maybe I'm wrong. Also the concern for the bands' image is ludicrous at this point.  If it wasn't for the flowery shirts, if it wasn't for Mikes dancing....come on the BBs are who they are, you can't change history and trying to convince "non-believers" into recognizing the greatness of their career as a complete entity is a toal waste of time. I've loved the music during the most difficult years to be a fan (late '60s) , so I know of what I speak.

I think you're wrongly assuming Ron was being in some way ironic, or ironic even. I don't think this was the case at all, or that his intended argument was the same as the one you've just given above.