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Title: The SMiLE Sessions Box Set-#27 on U.S. Billboard
Post by: andy on November 09, 2011, 10:03:27 AM
Somewhere around 17.5k units is what I heard. I'm not sure what Capitol was expecting, but I think that's a good start!


Title: Re: The SMiLE Sessions Box Set-#27 on U.S. Billboard
Post by: SMiLE Brian on November 09, 2011, 10:04:36 AM
The Beach Boys comeback begins....


Title: Re: The SMiLE Sessions Box Set-#27 on U.S. Billboard
Post by: Runaways on November 09, 2011, 10:09:40 AM
that's pretty good


Title: Re: The SMiLE Sessions Box Set-#27 on U.S. Billboard
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on November 09, 2011, 10:18:03 AM
Somewhere around 17.5k units is what I heard. I'm not sure what Capitol was expecting, but I think that's a good start!

No, it's not what Capitol were expecting. It's WAY BEYOND what they projected.  ;D


Title: Re: The SMiLE Sessions Box Set-#27 on U.S. Billboard
Post by: Runaways on November 09, 2011, 10:22:00 AM
what did they project


Title: Re: The SMiLE Sessions Box Set-#27 on U.S. Billboard
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on November 09, 2011, 10:26:33 AM
what did they project

Substantially less than 17,500.


Title: Re: The SMiLE Sessions Box Set-#27 on U.S. Billboard
Post by: SMiLE Brian on November 09, 2011, 10:28:50 AM
Its endless summer all over again!!!!!!!!!!! :pirate


Title: Re: The SMiLE Sessions Box Set-#27 on U.S. Billboard
Post by: Runaways on November 09, 2011, 10:33:01 AM
can't wait for the stereo mix then  :listening


Title: Re: The SMiLE Sessions Box Set-#27 on U.S. Billboard
Post by: Mike's Beard on November 09, 2011, 10:44:04 AM
Is this just sales for the big nine disk set? How's the regular 2 disk set doing saleswise?


Title: Re: The SMiLE Sessions Box Set-#27 on U.S. Billboard
Post by: Wirestone on November 09, 2011, 10:44:57 AM
I think it's probably everything lumped together -- digital, two-disc, nine-disc.


Title: Re: The SMiLE Sessions Box Set-#27 on U.S. Billboard
Post by: Jon Stebbins on November 09, 2011, 11:00:08 AM
Now you can say this..."Smile charted higher than Surfin' Safari, Smiley Smile, Friends, 20/20, Sunflower, Surf's Up, Carl & the Passions, Holland, Love You, MIU, L.A. Light, Keepin' The Summer Alive, and BB's '85."


Title: Re: The SMiLE Sessions Box Set-#27 on U.S. Billboard
Post by: D Cunningham on November 09, 2011, 11:15:17 AM
Jon:  I'll be at the local watering hole tonight.  I'll try that line on the first babe I encounter.  Wish me luck!


Title: Re: The SMiLE Sessions Box Set-#27 on U.S. Billboard
Post by: Jon Stebbins on November 09, 2011, 11:21:57 AM
Jon:  I'll be at the local watering hole tonight.  I'll try that line on the first babe I encounter.  Wish me luck!
Follow it up with a little "Hey baby...did ya know that Al Jardine was born in Ohio?" That one always works for me.


Title: Re: The SMiLE Sessions Box Set-#27 on U.S. Billboard
Post by: D Cunningham on November 09, 2011, 11:34:52 AM
Reminds me of the time, years ago, in a bar.  I told a woman I owned a copy of the Beach Boys Deluxe Set--near mint.  She said, "But is it mono?"  End of attempt.


Title: Re: The SMiLE Sessions Box Set-#27 on U.S. Billboard
Post by: mammy blue on November 09, 2011, 11:35:43 AM
Now you can say this..."Smile charted higher than Surfin' Safari, Smiley Smile, Friends, 20/20, Sunflower, Surf's Up, Carl & the Passions, Holland, Love You, MIU, L.A. Light, Keepin' The Summer Alive, and BB's '85."

And in 2011!!!!


Title: Re: The SMiLE Sessions Box Set-#27 on U.S. Billboard
Post by: Fall Breaks on November 09, 2011, 11:39:35 AM
Jon:  I'll be at the local watering hole tonight.  I'll try that line on the first babe I encounter.  Wish me luck!
Follow it up with a little "Hey baby...did ya know that Al Jardine was born in Ohio?" That one always works for me.
I usually look them deep in their eyes and say "That's Brian playing the harmonica on 'Susie Cincinnati'".


Title: Re: The SMiLE Sessions Box Set-#27 on U.S. Billboard
Post by: mammy blue on November 09, 2011, 11:48:43 AM
The Beach Boys comeback begins....

There's definitely a critical turnaround in the US regarding the Beach Boys that has built up here since the 1990s. If Smile had been released in the 70s or 80s, there's no way it would have charted (almost) as well in the US as the UK.


Title: Re: The SMiLE Sessions Box Set-#27 on U.S. Billboard
Post by: andy on November 09, 2011, 11:51:45 AM
I should clarify. I think all of the SMiLE configurations were dumped into one number.  Still, here it is:

SMILE SESSIONS
CAP
2011-11-01

TW
17,183

YTD
17,567


Title: Re: The SMiLE Sessions Box Set-#27 on U.S. Billboard
Post by: Heysaboda on November 09, 2011, 11:56:28 AM
This is BLOODY brilliant!

We did it, boys!


Title: Re: The SMiLE Sessions Box Set-#27 on U.S. Billboard
Post by: Wirestone on November 09, 2011, 12:12:43 PM
Excellent outcome. I would hope it inspires everyone concerned -- Brian, boys, record company. Let's get the music out while we can enjoy it!


Title: Re: The SMiLE Sessions Box Set-#27 on U.S. Billboard
Post by: SMiLE Brian on November 09, 2011, 12:49:42 PM
Bet Brian will be happy with the sales of SMiLE and billboard ranking. :)


Title: Re: The SMiLE Sessions Box Set-#27 on U.S. Billboard
Post by: juggler on November 09, 2011, 01:02:31 PM
Not to take a shot at Bruce, whose work I respect, but he was quoted decades ago in David Leaf's book as saying, "I think the Smile album would have done worse than Smiley Smile."   

Guess not.  ;D

In fairness, though, it's not 1967 and we'll never know what might have happened back in the day. Nonetheless, the proof of the pudding is in the eating.  And Smile IS selling.  Huge congratulations to Brian, the Beach Boys, Van Dyke, Messrs Linett & Boyd and all the folks at Capitol.

Too bad Capitol didn't push a little harder, though.  If the 2CD had been in the Sunday circulars for Best Buy, Target and Wal-Mart, it might have cracked the top 20.





Title: Re: The SMiLE Sessions Box Set-#27 on U.S. Billboard
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on November 09, 2011, 01:08:59 PM
I think Bruce was talking sales, not positions... and my guess is that Smiley Smile sold more than 17,500 to make #41 in 1967.


Title: Re: The SMiLE Sessions Box Set-#27 on U.S. Billboard
Post by: oldsurferdude on November 09, 2011, 01:12:11 PM
Jon:  I'll be at the local watering hole tonight.  I'll try that line on the first babe I encounter.  Wish me luck!
Follow it up with a little "Hey baby...did ya know that Al Jardine was born in Ohio?" That one always works for me.
These always seem to work-

         If this is a meat market, you must be prime rib.

         Why don't we go behind a rock and get a little bolder?

        Do you believe in love at first sight or should I walk by again?


Title: Re: The SMiLE Sessions Box Set-#27 on U.S. Billboard
Post by: Heysaboda on November 09, 2011, 05:29:20 PM
Not to take a shot at Bruce, whose work I respect, but he was quoted decades ago in David Leaf's book as saying, "I think the Smile album would have done worse than Smiley Smile."   

Guess not.  ;D

In fairness, though, it's not 1967 and we'll never know what might have happened back in the day. Nonetheless, the proof of the pudding is in the eating.  And Smile IS selling.  Huge congratulations to Brian, the Beach Boys, Van Dyke, Messrs Linett & Boyd and all the folks at Capitol.

Too bad Capitol didn't push a little harder, though.  If the 2CD had been in the Sunday circulars for Best Buy, Target and Wal-Mart, it might have cracked the top 20.

Also, Bruce is saying some VERY nice things about SMiLE on the YouTube series.  Very nice, indeedy.


Title: Re: The SMiLE Sessions Box Set-#27 on U.S. Billboard
Post by: juggler on November 13, 2011, 06:09:41 AM
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the Beach Boys concurrently arrive with the summery sounds of "Smile."

Unreleased since its inception 45 years ago, the title bows at No. 27. (Brian Wilson's solo interpretation of the album reached No. 13 in 2004).

With the entrance, the Beach Boys have sent three consecutive entries into the Billboard 200's top 40 for the first time since 1975-76. "The Very Best of the Beach Boys: Sounds of Summer" peaked at No. 16 in 2003 and "The Warmth of the Sun" opened at its No. 40 peak in 2007.

http://www.billboard.com/column/chartbeat/weekly-chart-notes-mariah-carey-beach-boys-1005511572.story#/column/chartbeat/weekly-chart-notes-mariah-carey-beach-boys-1005511572.story?page=2

Summery sounds? 

Oh, well.  Interesting about this making three recent Top 40 albums... first such streak since 1975-76. 


Title: Re: The SMiLE Sessions Box Set-#27 on U.S. Billboard
Post by: Rocker on November 13, 2011, 06:48:40 AM
Corrct me if I'm wrong but that makes the Beach Boys having at least one top 30 chartplacing in every decade since they were formed about 50 years ago, right ? That's pretty impressive. Don't know how many other bands can claim that


EDIT:
ok, I'm not sure about the 90s. What did Fun Fun Fun with Status Quo chart at ?


Title: Re: The SMiLE Sessions Box Set-#27 on U.S. Billboard
Post by: Shady on November 13, 2011, 08:33:46 AM
I'm actually really happy with the sales, worldwide, it's a load off..

That said, I can't quite shake the feeling it could have been ever bigger if The Beach Boys were signed to a label that knows how to promote an album..

I can't get over the fact SMiLE was nowhere to be seen on the front page of itunes during the week of it's release, a friging U2 re-release is plastered all over but SMiLE couldn't even get a slight mention, not even in the new releases section, It's just a shame. Capitol did a great job with the box and getting the album out but they don't have clue when it comes to getting the word out. Even on facebook they spent all their time flogging the ridiculously overpriced special editions as opposed to just giving an amazon or itunes link to pre-order.

You have to understand 750,000 of the 800 or so thousand people on the BB facebook page have no clue what SMiLE is, you should have seen the comments, "I can't afford the album it's 800 bucks". It was shameless

Nirvana, Pink Floyd, U2 all got huge promotional campaigns, shame TBB didn't

Still sold great regardless, and I'm sitting here listening to the album, that's all that matters


Title: Re: The SMiLE Sessions Box Set-#27 on U.S. Billboard
Post by: Bubba Ho-Tep on November 13, 2011, 09:23:44 AM
The album could have gone even higher if stores actually carried the thing. I couldn't find it in any FYE or Best Buy in my town. Barnes & Noble had 1 copy of the 2 discs version (but at $35 I doubt it will sell!).

No in store display, or even a prominence in the "new releases" rack. Nothing.

My local Walmart had 4 copies of "Key of Disney", though, which was nice.


Title: Re: The SMiLE Sessions Box Set-#27 on U.S. Billboard
Post by: Shady on November 13, 2011, 09:37:38 AM
Unreal



Title: Re: The SMiLE Sessions Box Set-#27 on U.S. Billboard
Post by: pixletwin on November 13, 2011, 10:05:31 AM
Considering the only entity that seems to be promoting SMiLE is Brian himself, I think #27 is a very nice result.


Title: Re: The SMiLE Sessions Box Set-#27 on U.S. Billboard
Post by: Eric Aniversario on November 13, 2011, 11:32:50 PM
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the Beach Boys concurrently arrive with the summery sounds of "Smile."

With the entrance, the Beach Boys have sent three consecutive entries into the Billboard 200's top 40 for the first time since 1975-76. "The Very Best of the Beach Boys: Sounds of Summer" peaked at No. 16 in 2003 and "The Warmth of the Sun" opened at its No. 40 peak in 2007.

http://www.billboard.com/column/chartbeat/weekly-chart-notes-mariah-carey-beach-boys-1005511572.story#/column/chartbeat/weekly-chart-notes-mariah-carey-beach-boys-1005511572.story?page=2

I think the writer didn't know about Summer Love Songs...that didn't reach the top 40...


Title: Re: The SMiLE Sessions Box Set-#27 on U.S. Billboard
Post by: Chris Brown on November 13, 2011, 11:54:38 PM
The album could have gone even higher if stores actually carried the thing. I couldn't find it in any FYE or Best Buy in my town. Barnes & Noble had 1 copy of the 2 discs version (but at $35 I doubt it will sell!).

No in store display, or even a prominence in the "new releases" rack. Nothing.

My local Walmart had 4 copies of "Key of Disney", though, which was nice.

In this day and age, I really doubt that a lack of presence in stores is as big a problem as you'd think - relative to online merchants, physical stores are overpriced with a pretty limited selection (I still shudder to think of the days when I had to go to some crappy store like FYE to buy music).  Aside from fulfilling an immediate urge to buy a release you just read about, why would anyone choose to buy from a brick and mortar store rather than buying online?  I just don't think a bigger presence in stores would have made much of a difference.



Title: Re: The SMiLE Sessions Box Set-#27 on U.S. Billboard
Post by: Sound of Free on November 14, 2011, 09:56:16 AM
what did they project
A million units in January.


Title: Re: The SMiLE Sessions Box Set-#27 on U.S. Billboard
Post by: Micha on November 14, 2011, 09:40:47 PM
Reminds me of the time, years ago, in a bar.  I told a woman I owned a copy of the Beach Boys Deluxe Set--near mint.  She said, "But is it mono?"  End of attempt.

That would have been the point where I would have asked her to marry me. :-D


Title: Re: The SMiLE Sessions Box Set-#27 on U.S. Billboard
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on November 15, 2011, 12:45:39 AM
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the Beach Boys concurrently arrive with the summery sounds of "Smile."

With the entrance, the Beach Boys have sent three consecutive entries into the Billboard 200's top 40 for the first time since 1975-76. "The Very Best of the Beach Boys: Sounds of Summer" peaked at No. 16 in 2003 and "The Warmth of the Sun" opened at its No. 40 peak in 2007.

http://www.billboard.com/column/chartbeat/weekly-chart-notes-mariah-carey-beach-boys-1005511572.story#/column/chartbeat/weekly-chart-notes-mariah-carey-beach-boys-1005511572.story?page=2

I think the writer didn't know about Summer Love Songs...that didn't reach the top 40...

... or even the top 200.  :)


Title: Re: The SMiLE Sessions Box Set-#27 on U.S. Billboard
Post by: hypehat on November 15, 2011, 02:54:23 AM
Jon:  I'll be at the local watering hole tonight.  I'll try that line on the first babe I encounter.  Wish me luck!
Follow it up with a little "Hey baby...did ya know that Al Jardine was born in Ohio?" That one always works for me.
I usually look them deep in their eyes and say "That's Brian playing the harmonica on 'Susie Cincinnati'".

I show them my bootleg. Never fails.


Title: Re: The SMiLE Sessions Box Set-#27 on U.S. Billboard
Post by: The Heartical Don on November 15, 2011, 06:15:47 AM
Jon:  I'll be at the local watering hole tonight.  I'll try that line on the first babe I encounter.  Wish me luck!
Follow it up with a little "Hey baby...did ya know that Al Jardine was born in Ohio?" That one always works for me.
I usually look them deep in their eyes and say "That's Brian playing the harmonica on 'Susie Cincinnati'".

I show them my bootleg. Never fails.

My opening line: "Did you know there's a nearly inaudible bum bass note at 1'24" into the Purplechick SMiLE version of IIGS?"

Always got me into their beds.


Title: Re: The SMiLE Sessions Box Set-#27 on U.S. Billboard
Post by: Steve Mayo on November 16, 2011, 11:43:27 AM
nice placing on these 2 charts....


  http://www.thetop22.com/2011/11/indie-record-store-cd-and-vinyl-sales-charts-11-6-11/


Title: Re: The SMiLE Sessions Box Set-#27 on U.S. Billboard
Post by: Caroline Yes on November 16, 2011, 02:36:04 PM
At the record store here in Central New York there was a HUGE in store display with multiple Box Sets and 2-CD editions. 

Though I must say, I'm a bit disappointed with the #27 position.  BWPS debuted at #13 for a chart stay of 17 weeks, and in the UK it debuted at #7 and went gold.  What's up with that? Why didn't all the people that bought BWPS buy the actual release?! I suppose it had to do with the pricing perhaps? The two disk edition isn't cheap, and I haven't seen any single disk editions...


Title: Re: The SMiLE Sessions Box Set-#27 on U.S. Billboard
Post by: Steve Mayo on November 17, 2011, 08:52:00 AM
it's at #93 this week in billboard


Title: Re: The SMiLE Sessions Box Set-#27 on U.S. Billboard
Post by: Aegir on November 17, 2011, 08:58:12 AM
At the record store here in Central New York there was a HUGE in store display with multiple Box Sets and 2-CD editions. 

Though I must say, I'm a bit disappointed with the #27 position.  BWPS debuted at #13 for a chart stay of 17 weeks, and in the UK it debuted at #7 and went gold.  What's up with that? Why didn't all the people that bought BWPS buy the actual release?! I suppose it had to do with the pricing perhaps? The two disk edition isn't cheap, and I haven't seen any single disk editions...

just look at it this way. everyone's waiting for Smile to come out.

2004: It's finally here! YAY!
2011: Just kidding, now it's finally here. yay.

Also, people bought a lot more CDs in 2004 than they do now. You couldn't find full albums on the internet for free anywhere near as easily as you can in 2011.


Title: Re: The SMiLE Sessions Box Set-#27 on U.S. Billboard
Post by: Caroline Yes on November 17, 2011, 09:42:24 AM
At the record store here in Central New York there was a HUGE in store display with multiple Box Sets and 2-CD editions. 

Though I must say, I'm a bit disappointed with the #27 position.  BWPS debuted at #13 for a chart stay of 17 weeks, and in the UK it debuted at #7 and went gold.  What's up with that? Why didn't all the people that bought BWPS buy the actual release?! I suppose it had to do with the pricing perhaps? The two disk edition isn't cheap, and I haven't seen any single disk editions...

just look at it this way. everyone's waiting for Smile to come out.

2004: It's finally here! YAY!
2011: Just kidding, now it's finally here. yay.

Also, people bought a lot more CDs in 2004 than they do now. You couldn't find full albums on the internet for free anywhere near as easily as you can in 2011.

I suppose that makes sense, but if you're someone who was interested in Brian's project in 2004, I would think you would want to actually purchase at least the 2-disk edition.  Anyone who bought that album in 2004 I would assume would be a pretty die-hard Beach Boys fan.