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Surfer
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Beach Boys 1966 Smile
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July 21, 2014, 07:55:42 PM »
First own many of you like Smile? Second what kind of of music is Smile i mean is it
Psychedelic rock, baroque pop, psychedelic pop, folk rock, avant-garde, experimental, Americana
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Re: Beach Boys 1966 Smile
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July 21, 2014, 07:59:01 PM »
I love SMiLE! And it's all of the above bar folk rock (and possibly avant-garde)
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Niko
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Re: Beach Boys 1966 Smile
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July 21, 2014, 08:03:21 PM »
When I light one and listen to teh Smile, the thoughts that go through my brain are:
1: This is amazing
2: There is nothing else like this
3: How did he come up with this
4: Back to 1
Smile can't really be classified, it's just...Smile
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Check out the awesome Beach Boys mixes a few of us made:
Symphony to God:
http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,18190.0.html
Dumb Angels:
http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,18326.0.html
Hawthorne Sunset:
http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,22538.msg530237.html
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Re: Beach Boys 1966 Smile
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July 21, 2014, 08:08:22 PM »
I've often tried to think of what genre
Smile
fits into, and I don't really think there is one. It's not psychedelic like most other music going on at the same time, it doesn't have that certain "baroque" sound to it, it never truly gets experimental enough to be avant-garde. I definitely wouldn't call it folk rock or Americana, but maybe "experimental" is the closest we'll get.
It really is unlike anything else.
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Niko
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Re: Beach Boys 1966 Smile
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Quote from: Smug, Condescending & Patronizing on July 21, 2014, 08:08:22 PM
It really is unlike anything else.
This.
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Check out the awesome Beach Boys mixes a few of us made:
Symphony to God:
http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,18190.0.html
Dumb Angels:
http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,18326.0.html
Hawthorne Sunset:
http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,22538.msg530237.html
The Shift
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Re: Beach Boys 1966 Smile
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July 21, 2014, 08:10:29 PM »
Same here, love Smile as much if not more than anything else my favourite band recorded. There have been periods in my life when it's all I listen to.
Agree with Bambu Dennis that it ain't folk rock. Not sure that it's any kind of rock or pop, and I think it's something else entirely. Baroque - yes. Psychedelic - yes; psyche-delicate, even, I think Brian once called it. I think, to my ears at least, Brian's 2004 interpretation also re-envisioned the whole as children's music, by removing some of the darker edge to parts of the music and framing it with lighter, jolly sections like On A Holiday and Blue Hawaii.
Defining it is a complicated affair!
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Re: Beach Boys 1966 Smile
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July 21, 2014, 08:27:36 PM »
Acid alliteration set to music made whilst stoned out of one's mind.
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Mikie
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Re: Beach Boys 1966 Smile
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July 21, 2014, 08:32:11 PM »
I'm all Smiled out.
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I, I love the colorful clothes she wears, and she's already working on my brain. I only looked in her eyes, but I picked up something I just can't explain. I, I bet I know what she’s like, and I can feel how right she’d be for me. It’s weird how she comes in so strong, and I wonder what she’s picking up from me. I hope it’s good, good, good, good vibrations, yeah!!
SMiLE Brian
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Re: Beach Boys 1966 Smile
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July 21, 2014, 08:42:54 PM »
BW's masterpiece.
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Re: Beach Boys 1966 Smile
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July 21, 2014, 11:43:42 PM »
Quote from: Surfer on July 21, 2014, 07:55:42 PM
First own many of you like Smile? Second what kind of of music is Smile i mean is it
Psychedelic rock, baroque pop, psychedelic pop, folk rock, avant-garde, experimental, Americana
Yup, that's about right !
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Re: Beach Boys 1966 Smile
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July 22, 2014, 12:36:25 AM »
Quote from: Surfer on July 21, 2014, 07:55:42 PM
First own many of you like Smile? Second what kind of of music is Smile i mean is it
Psychedelic rock, baroque pop, psychedelic pop, folk rock, avant-garde, experimental, Americana
Go have a listen, then come back (let's say 7pm, after tea) tell us what you think it is.
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Re: Beach Boys 1966 Smile
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There's something that's quoted often, about Brian being the Mozart Of Rock and Roll; If I remember correctly, somebody also made a quote once (Anderle, Vosse, one of the other BB's?) about how Brian was trying to bring classical music into Rock/Pop music. That, to me, is what SMiLE is; it's the sound of classical music combined with Pop/Rock music.
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July 22, 2014, 01:34:00 PM »
Modern classical music of a sort?
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July 22, 2014, 03:59:28 PM »
SMILE?
MORE LIKE
PILE
...
...OF SONGS THAT WERE UNFINISHED AND NEVER GOT TO BE PUT TOGETHER IN A MANNER THAT MAKES SENSE TO BOTH THE PRODUCER
AND
LISTENER.
Smile is an unfinished album of classic songs by the pop-rock band known as The Beach Boys.
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Re: Beach Boys 1966 Smile
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July 22, 2014, 04:05:28 PM »
Depends on the songs. Some are psychedelic - frightenly so. Others are baroque pop. Some are just art songs. It undefinable under one blanket term.
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Re: Beach Boys 1966 Smile
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July 22, 2014, 06:12:04 PM »
I don't hear baroque or for that matter rock. Avant garde Americana pop seems the best description to me, as exemplified by Cabinessence, OMP, Wind Chimes, etc.
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July 22, 2014, 06:31:03 PM »
Disney on acid (think Fantasia)
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Re: Beach Boys 1966 Smile
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July 23, 2014, 07:49:55 AM »
Quote from: SenorPotatoHead on July 22, 2014, 06:31:03 PM
Disney on acid (think Fantasia)
this.
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Re: Beach Boys 1966 Smile
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July 23, 2014, 02:54:04 PM »
Quote from: SenorPotatoHead on July 22, 2014, 06:31:03 PM
Disney on acid (think Fantasia)
Ah, maybe more like Disney On Hash; we ain't splitting hairs, though
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July 23, 2014, 03:07:27 PM »
Quote from: Mr. Verlander on July 23, 2014, 02:54:04 PM
Quote from: SenorPotatoHead on July 22, 2014, 06:31:03 PM
Disney on acid (think Fantasia)
Ah, maybe more like Disney On Hash; we ain't splitting hairs, though
Ah, maybe more like Disney on hash, speed, and Reddi-Whip.
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Re: Beach Boys 1966 Smile
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July 23, 2014, 04:26:10 PM »
Very good points Verlander and Daddy (ooh my!
), so perhaps the term
Psychedelic Disney
would be a better all around description.
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Re: Beach Boys 1966 Smile
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July 23, 2014, 05:09:04 PM »
And what's almost tragic is to think of what Brian could've accomplished working in that idiom for a few more years. As brilliant as Smile is, there is a sense that he almost got in over his head at moments, and occasionally his experiments don't quite connect. That said, had Brian not been such a perfectionist or what have you, he could've seen that he still had an amazing 10-12 song album on his hands. There's no doubt that songs like "Cabinessence", "Wonderful", "Heroes & Villains", and "Surf's Up" work amazingly as is. But I can't help but think that he could've done even better with a second go at a similar concept.
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Quote from: Mr. Cohen on July 23, 2014, 05:09:04 PM
And what's almost tragic is to think of what Brian could've accomplished working in that idiom for a few more years. As brilliant as Smile is, there is a sense that he almost got in over his head at moments, and occasionally his experiments don't quite connect. That said, had Brian not been such a perfectionist or what have you, he could've seen that he still had an amazing 10-12 song album on his hands. There's no doubt that songs like "Cabinessence", "Wonderful", "Heroes & Villains", and "Surf's Up" work amazingly as is. But I can't help but think that he could've done even better with a second go at a similar concept.
That's what drugs do to ya. Like he said, he just got beside himself with it and junked it. Ever smoked hash or some real good pot or done acid? There's your answer.
Paranoia big destroya!
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I, I love the colorful clothes she wears, and she's already working on my brain. I only looked in her eyes, but I picked up something I just can't explain. I, I bet I know what she’s like, and I can feel how right she’d be for me. It’s weird how she comes in so strong, and I wonder what she’s picking up from me. I hope it’s good, good, good, good vibrations, yeah!!
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Re: Beach Boys 1966 Smile
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July 23, 2014, 05:54:37 PM »
I've smoked pot and done shrooms. Still think I could've summoned the courage to release Smile, considering I would've had the gumption to release Smiley Smile. I agree with Van Dyke Parks' comment that drugs are the biggest "red herring" in the Smile story.
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Re: Beach Boys 1966 Smile
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July 23, 2014, 06:00:38 PM »
Hey, I'm just relaying it from the horse's mouth. Ask Brian. See the video from the It's OK special.
And without any suggestions prior, I asked Marilyn Wilson the question of why Smile was scrapped. Without hesitation she replied, "Drugs".
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I, I love the colorful clothes she wears, and she's already working on my brain. I only looked in her eyes, but I picked up something I just can't explain. I, I bet I know what she’s like, and I can feel how right she’d be for me. It’s weird how she comes in so strong, and I wonder what she’s picking up from me. I hope it’s good, good, good, good vibrations, yeah!!
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