BW & Band: private show @ House of Blues, Dallas (October 12th 2012)

[Lowbacca]

From BW's Facebook page:

A private show in Dallas at the House of Blues

Is that Lizik on bass? Is he back?

[rn57]

As I said on the thread I put up just about simultaneously, I thought it looked like a soundcheck.

[Lowbacca]

As I said on the thread I put up just about simultaneously, I thought it looked like a soundcheck.

Definitely does, yeah. But most importantly: Brian's back at work and Nicky Wonder is back, as well as... Bob Lizik? 

[Rocker]

I don't think it's a recent picture

Never mind

[rn57]

As I said on the thread I put up just about simultaneously, I thought it looked like a soundcheck.

Definitely does, yeah. But most importantly: Brian's back at work and Nicky Wonder is back, as well as... Bob Lizik? 

Magnifying it, does look rather like Lizik. Show starts at 9 Central according to the press release I found online (http://media.baylorhealth.com/releases/-the-party-offers-cure-for-the-summertime-blues, put up last week). I wonder if any guests might turn up...in a white suit, even.

[rn57]

Brian's played his share of HOBs but I can't recall if he's "done Dallas" before. (Warning to M&Bistas - non-family-friendly allusion there.)

[Jason]

Well, he certainly had no problem resuming his solo career...

I expect eighty-seven fucking pages filled with anti-Brian sentiment. If you're going to bitch about Michael doing the same thing BE FUCKING CONSISTENT ABOUT IT.

[Jason]

Brian's played his share of HOBs but I can't recall if he's "done Dallas" before. (Warning to M&Bistas - non-family-friendly allusion there.)

ZING! You're so clever! Not.

[Mikie]

Brian does Dallas!  Where's Debbie?  Where's Taylor?

Hey, there's one Tasty Brother - all we need is Jimmy Hines and we got two back! 

Cool to see Bob Lizik back on bass, even if it might be temporary.

[Jason]

Brian does Dallas!  Where's Debbie?  Where's Taylor?

Hey, there's one Tasty Brother - all we need is Jimmy Hines and we got two back! 

Cool to see Bob Lizik back on bass, even if it might be temporary.

Time heals all wounds?

[rn57]

It would be interesting to know what kind of thumbs-up the band got on it. At Facebook, Probyn gave no indication that this was afoot. (Neither did Jeff, but then Jeff never gives no indications nohow.)

[EgoHanger1966]

Well, he certainly had no problem resuming his solo career...

I expect eighty-seven f***ing pages filled with anti-Brian sentiment. If you're going to bitch about Michael doing the same thing BE f***ING CONSISTENT ABOUT IT.

Brian Wilson isn't promoting himself as The Beach Boys.

[Jason]

Because Brian's not authorized to promote his band as "the Beach Boys"; he DID, however, vote to authorize Michael to promote his band as "the Beach Boys".  Just saying. For all of the malarkey about "WHY CAN'T THEY GO ON?!?!", this has received a rather...muted response. I know that double standards are something to be proud of in the Brianista world, but...

[Lowbacca]

[EgoHanger1966]

Because Brian's not authorized to promote his band as "the Beach Boys"; he DID, however, vote to authorize Michael to promote his band as "the Beach Boys".  Just saying. For all of the malarkey about "WHY CAN'T THEY GO ON?!?!", this has received a rather...muted response. I know that double standards are something to be proud of in the Brianista world, but...

I completely understand that the reunion tour was finite. I know the logistics of why they cannot go on. I only ever dispute the fact that M&B should tour as "The Beach Boys" so close in proximity to the end of the 50th celebration. I know M. Love has the right to tour under that name, but if his thing is about not cheapening the legacy of the band, well....

Even if he could, you think Brian would tour as The Beach Boys if he was the only original member? Doubt it.
And, yeah, I like Brian Wilson more than I like Mike Love. On a lot of different levels.

[Jason]

Because Brian's not authorized to promote his band as "the Beach Boys"; he DID, however, vote to authorize Michael to promote his band as "the Beach Boys".  Just saying. For all of the malarkey about "WHY CAN'T THEY GO ON?!?!", this has received a rather...muted response. I know that double standards are something to be proud of in the Brianista world, but...

I completely understand that the reunion tour was finite. I know the logistics of why they cannot go on. I only ever dispute the fact that M&B should tour as "The Beach Boys" so close in proximity to the end of the 50th celebration. I know M. Love has the right to tour under that name, but if his thing is about not cheapening the legacy of the band, well....

Even if he could, you think Brian would tour as The Beach Boys if he was the only original member? Doubt it.
And, yeah, I like Brian Wilson more than I like Mike Love. On a lot of different levels.

I agree with your first paragraph. Just saying that for all of the freaking out over things going back to how they were before the reunion (even when we all knew it would end), Brian's return to solo performing has seen zero response. I'm just pointing out a glaring hypocrisy.

And would Brian tour as the Beach Boys if he was the only original member? He's said himself he'd rather have Michael do it, so I doubt it. I also never say never.

[Cam Mott]

Wellllllllllllllllllllllll.................

[Jason]

Wellllllllllllllllllllllll.................

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[HeyJude]

Wow, it really turned that quickly into a "Seeeeeeeee???  Brian's doing it too!"

No, Brian doing solo gigs isn't the same thing at all. First of all, it sounds like Brian wanted to do more reunion gigs and may not have even been able to do this gig if the reunion had kept going. Brian wanted more reunion gigs, Mike did not. So no, this isn' t the same at all.

Oh yeah, and there's the little extra bit of info concerning that fact that Brian isn't calling his band "The Beach Boys."

Mike is doing his gigs as "The Beach Boys", and is doing so at the exclusion of more reunion gigs. Brian is doing a solo gig, and we don't even know when he agreed to the gig.

So if Brian or Al or David, who all wanted to do more reunion gigs, now go do some solo or alternate gigs instead of staying home and being the "old man yelling at a cloud", that isn't anything like what Mike has done. Sorry, not even close. If Brian had secretly planned to also ditch the reunion and do solo gigs only, I'm sure one of Mike's "clarification" statments would have informed us of this fact.

[EgoHanger1966]

What will be interesting to find out (if we do) is how far ahead this was planned. It would be so hilarious if it was found out this was planned while the 50th tour was in progress (or before...), it would confirm that everything in the recent press has been a load of bullshit.

[Chris Brown]

Because Brian's not authorized to promote his band as "the Beach Boys"; he DID, however, vote to authorize Michael to promote his band as "the Beach Boys".  Just saying. For all of the malarkey about "WHY CAN'T THEY GO ON?!?!", this has received a rather...muted response. I know that double standards are something to be proud of in the Brianista world, but...

I completely understand that the reunion tour was finite. I know the logistics of why they cannot go on. I only ever dispute the fact that M&B should tour as "The Beach Boys" so close in proximity to the end of the 50th celebration. I know M. Love has the right to tour under that name, but if his thing is about not cheapening the legacy of the band, well....

Even if he could, you think Brian would tour as The Beach Boys if he was the only original member? Doubt it.
And, yeah, I like Brian Wilson more than I like Mike Love. On a lot of different levels.

I agree with your first paragraph. Just saying that for all of the freaking out over things going back to how they were before the reunion (even when we all knew it would end), Brian's return to solo performing has seen zero response. I'm just pointing out a glaring hypocrisy.

And would Brian tour as the Beach Boys if he was the only original member? He's said himself he'd rather have Michael do it, so I doubt it. I also never say never.

It's not hypocrisy - there's a world of difference between Brian doing a one-off show under his own name and Mike playing shows calling his band The Beach Boys.  This was true even before the reunion tour, but the disparity is even greater now that we've seen the real Beach Boys in action.

As was stated in the other thread, if Brian booked shows for himself using the Beach Boys name (forget the licensing issue for the moment - we all agree that the name has more meaning than what's written on a contract), he would be rightfully subjected to the same criticisms.  But in playing this show, Brian is doing no disrespect to the Beach Boys name, and the same can't be said for Mike.

Additionally, unless Brian booked this solo show months in advance, it isn't the same as Mike booking a "Beach Boys" show during the middle of the reunion tour.  Mike has already seemingly ruled out more reunion shows, at least for the time being, so this strikes me as more of a reactive move by Brian, dissimilar to the proactive move made by Mike in booking October "Beach Boys" shows.

[Dave in KC]

Correct, I believe. This is Brian saying, I'll show you. Anyway, I think it's a great move.

[Shady]

How can you compare Brian doing a solo show under the name "Brian Wilson" to Mike and Bruce booking a tour under the name "The Beach Boys" apparently against Brian and Al's wishes.

Strange argument

[rn57]

Mike (and Historical) play a benefit for a hospital then go to Waco. Brian plays a benefit for a hospital...that's in Waco. Is this what Jan's old pals Stan and Ollie would call tit for tat?

[AndrewHickey]

Additionally, unless Brian booked this solo show months in advance, it isn't the same as Mike booking a "Beach Boys" show during the middle of the reunion tour.  Mike has already seemingly ruled out more reunion shows, at least for the time being, so this strikes me as more of a reactive move by Brian, dissimilar to the proactive move made by Mike in booking October "Beach Boys" shows.

Why would you think the show *wasn't* booked months in advance?