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Title: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: Menace Wilson on April 14, 2013, 07:22:51 PM Is it because of the persecution we suffer ("Good god, you actually like all that surfing and cars junk?!?")?
Is it because the band tends to make infuriating career choices? Is it because we've all read the books and heard all the bootlegs and therefore think we're experts? Is it because of Al Jardine? (It is, isn't it.) What's your take...how come we BBs fans tend to behave like female dogs to one another? Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: the captain on April 14, 2013, 07:34:44 PM If forced to answer--and this chianti seems to be forcing me to answer--I'd say it's a combination of a) an inferiority complex (i.e., they're not [seen as equal to] the Beatles) and b) multiple diverse, strong periods of material.
Thus most hardcore fans seem to want to fight for the band (inferiority complex), but the band they're fighting for depends on their own particular favorite incarnation. So while Fans A, B, and C all fight for a band named the Beach Boys, Fan A is a Brianista distancing them from the surf 'n' car image as he (let's be honest, it's a he) annoys his friends with Pet Sounds and Smile; Fan B is justifying that early era; and Fan C is the democrat who sees the merits of the early '70s. And so on, on and on, forever and ever, amen. All of it under the real or perceived slight, fighting as some kind of underdog against the Big Bad Beatles. Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: Kurosawa on April 14, 2013, 09:53:24 PM All fans of things who are passionate disagree over issues from time to time, sometimes harshly. Besides the Beach Boys, I'm a huge comics and sci-fi fan and some of the most brutal arguments I've even involved myself in were over those things. I doubt BB fans are crankier than any other band's fans.
Title: Post by: zachrwolfe on April 14, 2013, 09:58:48 PM
Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: MBE on April 14, 2013, 11:04:04 PM I don't know really, not all of us are. Maybe we have been hyped too much over the years, or maybe it's just hard to wash the stench out of 90 percent of the 1984-97 era. I've never cared about the opinions of the ill informed, (surf and car music was awesome anyways) but maybe some do. Could be much more simple, their huge English following. One of my college professors was from England and was a bit of a cranky character. His quote on the matter, "I'm English". Maybe it's the rain over there! I am just kidding of course (I usually love the English people I meet), but that is what he said. :angel:
Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: Iron Horse-Apples on April 15, 2013, 12:37:08 AM You calling me cranky Mike?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV42yt4O1ic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV42yt4O1ic) Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: absinthe_boy on April 15, 2013, 04:00:31 AM I don't think we are more cranky than the population of the Doctor Who fan forum that I frequent.
It's probably a "fan" thing rather than a Beach Boys thing. We are all passionate about the music and the band members, but in slightly different ways. Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: The Heartical Don on April 15, 2013, 04:51:48 AM (a) We want it all.
(b) Our. Own. Way. Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: Sheriff John Stone on April 15, 2013, 05:37:25 AM I think Jack Reiley inadvertently answered this question a long time ago:
"To sum it up, they blew it. They blew it consistently. They continue to blow it." Beach Boys' diehards got hooked big time by the catalogue of music from the first 15 years. Why? Because when it came to composing, recording, and somewhat performing the music, the Beach Boys could do no wrong. But, when it came to almost EVERY OTHER ASPECT of their career and lives, they could do nothing right. And that is the fascination. It is divisive. It is complex. It is frustrating. It is a tragedy. And it is perfect material for a rock and roll message board. Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: Quzi on April 15, 2013, 05:59:30 AM I think crankiness and frustration is what fuelled my fandom.
Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: Awesoman on April 15, 2013, 06:12:16 AM If forced to answer--and this chianti seems to be forcing me to answer--I'd say it's a combination of a) an inferiority complex (i.e., they're not [seen as equal to] the Beatles) and b) multiple diverse, strong periods of material. Thus most hardcore fans seem to want to fight for the band (inferiority complex), but the band they're fighting for depends on their own particular favorite incarnation. So while Fans A, B, and C all fight for a band named the Beach Boys, Fan A is a Brianista distancing them from the surf 'n' car image as he (let's be honest, it's a he) annoys his friends with Pet Sounds and Smile; Fan B is justifying that early era; and Fan C is the democrat who sees the merits of the early '70s. And so on, on and on, forever and ever, amen. All of it under the real or perceived slight, fighting as some kind of underdog against the Big Bad Beatles. All this plus some BW fans are nuttier than he is. Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: The Shift on April 15, 2013, 06:16:26 AM I'm not cranky. Next guy says otherwise gets a tomato in the puss.
Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: Chocolate Shake Man on April 15, 2013, 06:20:29 AM Don't say puss.
Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: Iron Horse-Apples on April 15, 2013, 06:41:11 AM I don't think we are more cranky than the population of the Doctor Who fan forum that I frequent. So I have to know, Which Doctor divides the Who fans as much as Mike Love divides us? Are the Tom Baker fans like the Brianistas of the site? Is Sylvester McCoy seen as the Bruce Johnson figure? Give me the minutiae! Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: Rocky Raccoon on April 15, 2013, 07:34:25 AM Short answer: Most of them are old. :old
Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: pixletwin on April 15, 2013, 07:57:04 AM I don't think we are more cranky than the population of the Doctor Who fan forum that I frequent. Haha. This made me literally LOL. Are you a GB'er? Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: Don Malcolm on April 15, 2013, 08:03:18 AM Short answer: Most of them are old. :old Yes. And if you're old, you're at least creaky, if not cranky. :old I think it's the elemental Brian and Mike/Brian vs. Mike relationship, where the two of them are in some odd way trying to outlast the other one, that creates an essential tension that can't help but seep into the emotional response that fans develop. The music hooks them, the history fascinates and repels at the same time, and the strangeness of it all is embraced in differing ways by folks depending on the forces that have shaped their own personalities. Put them all together on a chat board and it is often just as combustible as things were for the BBs over the years (and still continue to be). Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: lostbeachboy on April 15, 2013, 08:15:33 AM I'm 28 and not cranky. I just get pissed off when i the beach boys get overlooked on EVERYTHING.. It's things like good vibrations losing to Monday, Monday. Or Capitol releasing the best of the bb 3 months after pet sounds...or sunflower reaching #151. The list goes on and on...
Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: MBE on April 15, 2013, 09:16:11 AM You calling me cranky Mike? That's funny.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV42yt4O1ic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV42yt4O1ic) Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: filledeplage on April 15, 2013, 10:06:16 AM I'm 28 and not cranky. I just get pissed off when i the beach boys get overlooked on EVERYTHING.. It's things like good vibrations losing to Monday, Monday. Or Capitol releasing the best of the bb 3 months after pet sounds...or sunflower reaching #151. The list goes on and on... The time to feel righteous indignation was when this was going on. Great Beach Boys fans I know have learned to become tolerant, make reasoned argument (some earning a living in that capacity) and embraced the delay in recognition, in the context of keeping the music alive. The Band kept touring and Brian kept composing. The trick is to "turn things around, and maintain your dignity!" And it always felt like a great secret, that so many people never "got the music" when it was released, because eventually they all did, when they heard goofy 4-0-9 cleaner commercials, and so many BB songs on movie soundtracks. The tide finally turned. They are very happy people, who have lived to see this all happen, and can finally raise a glass to the Band, and an eyebrow to all the naysayers who can "eat their words with a fork and spoon!" ;) We have finally had the last, delicious laugh! :lol Cranky? Not on your life! Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: AndrewHickey on April 15, 2013, 10:18:33 AM Which Doctor divides the Who fans as much as Mike Love divides us? Pertwee, but Who fans are more divided by production team loyalties than lead actors. There's also the old-Who/new-Who debate Quote Are the Tom Baker fans like the Brianistas of the site? No, they're more like the people who think that the band's peak was the early hits. Quote Is Sylvester McCoy seen as the Bruce Johnson figure? More the Van Dyke Parks figure, actually -- although according to Jon Blum, Bruce is a Doctor Who fan... Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: Mike's Beard on April 15, 2013, 10:25:48 AM My favourite band features a bald headed goon, a stretched out midget, an overweight nutjob who didn't write a great song for over 40 years, a faded 80's hearthrob and a pistol whuppin' Republican psycho - I think I have every right to be a little cranky. ;)
Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: Iron Horse-Apples on April 15, 2013, 11:00:10 AM My favourite band features a bald headed goon, a stretched out midget, an overweight nutjob who didn't write a great song for over 40 years, a faded 80's hearthrob and a pistol whuppin' Republican psycho - I think I have every right to be a little cranky. ;) Wow, an REM fan, right? Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: Mike's Beard on April 15, 2013, 11:13:03 AM My favourite band features a bald headed goon, a stretched out midget, an overweight nutjob who didn't write a great song for over 40 years, a faded 80's hearthrob and a pistol whuppin' Republican psycho - I think I have every right to be a little cranky. ;) Wow, an REM fan, right? Actually I was talking about Genesis. Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: Iron Horse-Apples on April 15, 2013, 11:19:31 AM I just saw bald headed goon and immediately thought of Stipe, though Collins works great as well
Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: Sheriff John Stone on April 15, 2013, 11:22:47 AM I thought he was talking about the Beach Boys. I accounted for everybody except the "faded 80's heartthrob".
Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: AndrewHickey on April 15, 2013, 11:24:08 AM I thought he was talking about the Beach Boys. I accounted for everybody except the "faded 80's heartthrob". He was. He meant Stamos. Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: Sheriff John Stone on April 15, 2013, 11:25:16 AM I thought he was talking about the Beach Boys. I accounted for everybody except the "faded 80's heartthrob". He was. He meant Stamos. :-[ It's time for me to meditate. Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again on April 15, 2013, 01:02:22 PM I just saw bald headed goon and immediately thought of Stipe, though Collins works great as well Don't ALL but the Republican part work for Collins? >:D Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: Cam Mott on April 15, 2013, 02:53:44 PM I think it is we hold our opinions too high and a sort of perstitent disinformation. So suck it!
Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: NHC on April 15, 2013, 04:07:44 PM Short answer: Most of them are old. :old Yes, I am. And I love it. Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: Mikie on April 15, 2013, 04:10:13 PM Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: Jonathan Blum on April 15, 2013, 06:41:38 PM Why are we so cranky? Because fans are cranky. Fandom isn't about love, it's about obsession -- hate gets exaggerated as much as love. You'll never find someone who hates Star Wars as much as a Star Wars fan, you'll never find someone as vicious about a bit of Beach Boys stuff as a Beach Boys fan.
Cheers, Jon Blum Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again on April 15, 2013, 06:45:36 PM It's because a band full of insane, drinking, drugging, meditating, Full-Housing, bearded, backstabbing assholes will attract a like crowd.....
Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: oldsurferdude on April 15, 2013, 06:46:02 PM Why are we so cranky? Because fans are cranky. Fandom isn't about love, it's about obsession -- hate gets exaggerated as much as love. You'll never find someone who hates Star Wars as much as a Star Wars fan, you'll never find someone as vicious about a bit of Beach Boys stuff as a Beach Boys fan. Think you nailed it, Jon.Cheers, Jon Blum Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: Landlocked on April 15, 2013, 10:14:00 PM Why are we so cranky? Because fans are cranky. Fandom isn't about love, it's about obsession -- hate gets exaggerated as much as love. You'll never find someone who hates Star Wars as much as a Star Wars fan, you'll never find someone as vicious about a bit of Beach Boys stuff as a Beach Boys fan. Cheers, Jon Blum Boy, being both a BB and SW fanatic, this one hit close to home. It's like you put a mirror in front of me for the first time and I saw how gangly my teeth are. :o For the record, though, I've got to voice my support for the "inferiority complex" answer, at least for myself. I feel like I have to defend my profound devotion to a band who is mostly known for a few throwaway surf tunes from the early '60s. Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: Summer_Days on April 16, 2013, 07:52:47 AM Hey, if you went to Beach Boys forums like this one and saw how people talk about how they dislike terrific albums like Wild Honey, Holland and Love You, you would be cranky too!
:P Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: filledeplage on April 16, 2013, 08:19:47 AM Why are we so cranky? Because fans are cranky. Fandom isn't about love, it's about obsession -- hate gets exaggerated as much as love. You'll never find someone who hates Star Wars as much as a Star Wars fan, you'll never find someone as vicious about a bit of Beach Boys stuff as a Beach Boys fan. Think you nailed it, Jon.Cheers, Jon Blum [/quote I'm not sure I agree. A life lived without passion, is a poorly-lived one. Had Brian no "passion" for creation, or no creative outlet for that music in his head, where would he be? A listener or fan is merely the "recipient" of Brian's expression, because it is a multi-dynamic. And "fandom" is often a pejorative term for a very healthy, and well-placed passion. People who have nothing to be passionate about, whether it is a sport, or an author or film/arts or music, are not interesting people in my opinion, nor are they much fun to be around. And even Trekkies and Star Wars fans have cruises, other common interests, and while they might not ever be mine, it gives commonalities and hobby-type collection opportunities. And, social ones. I have great respect for the posters here, who step out there and risk the hot debate of this forum. They have a fiery common interest. And, make no mistake, you are the courageous ones, who "step out there" when you post, risking the ire of those who disagree. You aren't spectators in life! You are active participants! Don't beat yourself up, please. Life has a way of doing that with no outside help. ;) Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: BergenWhitesMoustache on April 16, 2013, 10:17:21 AM I've got a theory that 'a bunch of blokes' can sap the energy and joy out of anything...
Not saying there aren't female Beach Boys fans, of course there are, but the biggest bitches seem to be 'Male Beach Boys obsessives over forty' I'm into old guitars and record collecting (50s-70s stuff) and in both those fields, the number of joyful, happy enthusiasts are amply dwarfed by the miserable old gits who've long since moved beyond the initial spark that interested them and onto a horrible pissing contest. Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: Micha on April 18, 2013, 08:57:31 AM Hey, if you went to Beach Boys forums like this one and saw how people talk about how they dislike terrific albums like Wild Honey, Holland and Love You, you would be cranky too! :P Hey, but I love Summer Days! Even more so Today and Pet Sounds. I love Sunflower and TWGMTR, too. I absolutely enjoy Surfin' Safari through All Summer Long and Wild Honey. Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: Shady on April 18, 2013, 09:04:40 AM I put it down to the diversity of the music. It attracts all walks of life and when they congregate in the one spot bitter feuds and cheap shots arise. Then again some here are just old and grumpy (Mikie)
I bypass it all though and just celebrate the fact that The Beach Boys have such a fantastic and active online forum. Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: drbeachboy on April 18, 2013, 09:20:28 AM Maybe we older fans like Mikie and myself have been through all of the good & bad of their career while it was actually happening. I notice that most of us old timers get along better between us than we do with some of the younger folk in here. Just an observation...
BTW, Mikie is quite OK in my book! :) Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: Andrew G. Doe on April 18, 2013, 09:27:56 AM I think it's down to the sheer depth of the material. Something for everyone. Also, remember that 'fan' is a contraction of 'fanatic'.
Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: Shady on April 18, 2013, 09:32:47 AM I was hoping AGD would just tell us why he's so cranky and basically that's the question answered
Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: drbeachboy on April 18, 2013, 09:34:05 AM I think it's down to the sheer depth of the material. Something for everyone. Also, remember that 'fan' is a contraction of 'fanatic'. I am a fanatic, albeit a tempered one. I don't get all crazy and sh*t for every bit of news or lack of it at times. I like watching things unfold and take shape. One thing I learned being a Beach Boys fan is, patience.Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: Menace Wilson on April 18, 2013, 09:41:01 AM 2Menace Wilson, original poster: with all respect, but I think you asked an incorrect question. You forgot to add "considered to be" after "Fans". Every fanbase consists of various people with different characters. Though some would say "What is the band - the same are the fans". I agree with it in some way, OK, but nevertheless, it's unfair to oversimplify the things labeling each band & its fans as "this" or "that" imo. Fair enough. Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: Andrew G. Doe on April 18, 2013, 10:02:24 AM I was hoping AGD would just tell us why he's so cranky and basically that's the question answered Very simple - there's a whole bunch of good folk here (and me) who have devoted no little time and effort to accurately chronicling the life, times and music of these dysfunctional yet peerless musicians, but even so, posters here (and elsewhere) hold on to long-discredited canards, trot out utterly inaccurate factoids and plain act like children (viz, the infantile misspellings). Tell ya, it's enough to make the Pope say "f***". Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: BergenWhitesMoustache on April 18, 2013, 10:23:34 AM posters here (and elsewhere) hold on to long-discredited canards, trot out utterly inaccurate factoids This basically boils down to: (http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/duty_calls.png) Doesn't it ;D I mean, you don't HAVE to take it as a personal insult if someone is wrong about a Beach Boys fact, it may simply be that they've only been into them a short time, and been misinformed. To be fair too, it's normally fairly in depth stuff that people are wrong about, not the Beach Boys 101. To get serious for a minute, and not getting at anyone in particular (I've certainly typed some shitty things on here myself), but this has been a spectacularly awful forum for bad vibes. Far and away the worst I've been on. It'd be nice if everyone made an effort to turn a corner, because that sh*t just escalates so quickly. Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: drbeachboy on April 18, 2013, 10:31:04 AM posters here (and elsewhere) hold on to long-discredited canards, trot out utterly inaccurate factoids This basically boils down to: (http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/duty_calls.png) Doesn't it ;D I mean, you don't HAVE to take it as a personal insult if someone is wrong about a Beach Boys fact, it may simply be that they've only been into them a short time, and been misinformed. To be fair too, it's normally fairly in depth stuff that people are wrong about, not the Beach Boys 101. To get serious for a minute, and not getting at anyone in particular (I've certainly typed some shitty things on here myself), but this has been a spectacularly awful forum for bad vibes. Far and away the worst I've been on. It'd be nice if everyone made an effort to turn a corner, because that sh*t just escalates so quickly. Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: SMiLE Brian on April 18, 2013, 10:36:40 AM This place is great, wouldn't change it for the world. Yes this place can be crazy, but nothing beats finding out smile would be released or the BBs would do C50.
Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: KittyKat on April 18, 2013, 11:04:51 AM I don't like the way some posters personally attack other posters and I don't know where that comes from. If a person states an opinion you don't agree with, then make an argument as to why you don't agree with that person. You don't have to attack them directly or use some kind of passive aggressive remark that really doesn't elaborate on why you disagree, but is an attempt to make the other person look foolish. Entire threads sometimes get derailed by people having arguments that eventually have little to do with the original topic.
Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: leggo of my ego on April 18, 2013, 02:10:41 PM ???
Define Cranky. Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: Theydon Bois on April 18, 2013, 02:14:29 PM (http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/57409000/jpg/_57409641_002526885-1.jpg) Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: Mikie on April 18, 2013, 02:27:49 PM Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: Nicko1234 on April 18, 2013, 02:42:27 PM (http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/57409000/jpg/_57409641_002526885-1.jpg) One for the Brits there. :lol Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: Alan Smith on April 18, 2013, 02:57:44 PM :lol Or One who would snort crank but can't source any Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: Mikie on April 18, 2013, 07:53:20 PM I put it down to the diversity of the music. It attracts all walks of life and when they congregate in the one spot bitter feuds and cheap shots arise. Then again some here are just old and grumpy (Mikie) Huh. Again my name pops up unexpectedly in one of Shady's posts. And again in a negative tone! Trying to get someone to agree with you and start an anti-Mikie bandwagon, Shady? First you're jumping all over the Phil Cohen dog pile and now you're crying about AGD again on this thread because he hurt your feelings. You gots some growin' up to do boy! This ain't an old ladie's basket weaving party! Gimme something I can use, here, Shady. Be productive and post something informative and relevant for a change instead of running around the board cheerleading all the time. Wimp. Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: Mike's Beard on April 18, 2013, 11:22:16 PM (http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/57409000/jpg/_57409641_002526885-1.jpg) Dear God this just brought back memories of my childhood and not in a good way. Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: Iron Horse-Apples on April 19, 2013, 01:07:39 AM Yes, those horrible mutant faces just put me right off my breakfast. What is particularly distressing is that they were married.
Do you think she dressed as Jimmy Kranky as they......................no, I mustn't think it! Urghhhh, to late. Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: AndrewHickey on April 19, 2013, 01:40:56 AM Yes, those horrible mutant faces just put me right off my breakfast. What is particularly distressing is that they were married. Do you think she dressed as Jimmy Kranky as they......................no, I mustn't think it! Urghhhh, to late. Pulling at her braces and shouting "Fandabidozi" as... No... Make it stop... Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: Iron Horse-Apples on April 19, 2013, 01:41:50 AM (shudder)
Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: absinthe_boy on April 19, 2013, 04:54:21 AM Why are we so cranky? Because fans are cranky. Fandom isn't about love, it's about obsession -- hate gets exaggerated as much as love. You'll never find someone who hates Star Wars as much as a Star Wars fan, you'll never find someone as vicious about a bit of Beach Boys stuff as a Beach Boys fan. Cheers, Jon Blum Nail...head...hit... We all *love* the Beach Boys, but we love slightly different things about them. I might passionately argue that Pet Sounds is the peak of their career whereas someone else might argue for something else - because they happen to love it more. Or we could argue about the best song on Pet Sounds, the best musical moment on Pet Sounds...and I bet 100 Beach Boys fans will have at least 25 different answers to that last question. And we can get heated about these things because they are dear to our hearts. It is the nature of fandom, not necessarily Beach Boys fans. Is Gabriel-era Genesis better than the later stuff? Was C3PO gay? Were the Star Wars prequels really that bad? Is the 11th Doctor the best since the 4th? All perennial arguments in various fan forums. Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: Menace Wilson on May 17, 2013, 09:48:06 AM Bump.
Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: Shady on May 17, 2013, 11:56:13 AM It's the autotune
Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: Freddie French-Pounce on May 17, 2013, 11:57:31 AM Joe Thomas
Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: The Shift on May 17, 2013, 12:59:39 PM Quote Are the Tom Baker fans like the Brianistas of the site? No, they're more like the people who think that the band's peak was the early hits. I'd rank Baker as the Pet Sounds/Smile era. John Nathan-Turner was probably the equivalent of Steve Levine, sorry to say Agree with the McCoy/VDP analogy! DT's Doctor era is maybe equivalent to the suite that wasn't on TWGMTR. Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: punkinhead on May 18, 2013, 05:35:29 AM I'm not cranky at all in Beach Boys World, never been happier, my collection is growing, I've been doing at least one video a week for my Beach Boys Review/Observation/Videocast.
If I'm cranky, it's because of my transferring to my new job and moving. Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: Letsgoawayforawhile on May 18, 2013, 05:53:56 AM I think some of us are grouchy lately because we're scared. The road is coming to an end, but it's covered in fog and we can't see for sure where it stops. All the Boys have to do is turn on those fog lights, and they're right there, but do they see them?
Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: Menace Wilson on May 19, 2013, 09:08:01 AM Has anybody here ever seen "Life of Brian"?
BRIAN: Are you the Judean People's Front? REG: F*ck off! BRIAN: What? REG: Judean People's Front...(scoffs)...we're the People's Front of Judea! "Judean People's Front..." (rolls eyes). FRANCIS: Wankers. REG: Listen. The only people we hate more than the Romans are the f*cking Judean People's Front. P.F.J.: Yeah... JUDITH: Splitters. P.F.J.: Splitters... FRANCIS: And the Judean Popular People's Front. P.F.J.: Yeah. Oh, yeah. Splitters. Splitters... LORETTA: And the People's Front of Judea. P.F.J.: Yeah. Splitters. Splitters... REG: What? LORETTA: The People's Front of Judea. Splitters. REG: We're the People's Front of Judea! LORETTA: Oh. I thought we were the Popular Front. REG: People's Front! Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: Amy B. on May 19, 2013, 10:21:50 AM My favourite band features a bald headed goon, a stretched out midget, an overweight nutjob who didn't write a great song for over 40 years, a faded 80's hearthrob and a pistol whuppin' Republican psycho - I think I have every right to be a little cranky. ;) Wow, an REM fan, right? Ha ha. To my knowledge no one in REM was ever Republican. Far from it. Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: Amy B. on May 19, 2013, 10:24:24 AM I love that the BB's fan prototypes include the 20-something hipster with nerd glasses and the 60-something boomer with the Hawaiian shirt.
Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: Iron Horse-Apples on May 20, 2013, 02:40:33 AM I love that the BB's fan prototypes include the 20-something hipster with nerd glasses and the 60-something boomer with the Hawaiian shirt. And the 40's something ex stoner with a beer-gut. Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: Gertie J. on May 20, 2013, 02:42:28 AM like you? ;)
Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: Iron Horse-Apples on May 20, 2013, 03:24:33 AM like you? ;) I do happen to fit that demographic quite nicely. Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: punkinhead on May 20, 2013, 04:11:45 AM I love that the BB's fan prototypes include the 20-something hipster with nerd glasses and the 60-something boomer with the Hawaiian shirt. I'd like to think of myself as a hipster but I'm not really and I do wear a pair of thick rimmed glasses and I am 28…what a coincidence!Title: Re: Why Are BB's Fans So Cranky? Post by: Bicyclerider on May 21, 2013, 01:33:18 PM ??? Define Cranky. Better than that - I"ll spell it for you . . . A G D. Especially around P H I L. |