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Just for the fun of it....I'm enjoying some of the recent SMiLE discussion....had some time off from work....and would enjoy seeing others' personal SMiLE mixes....here's one I came up with....

The Beach Boys - SMiLE

1. You're Welcome
2. Do You Dig Worms?
3. Cabinessence
4. I Wanna Be Around/Workshop
5. Vegetables
6. "I got a big bag of vegetables" (from Hawthorne - mixed into the end of Vegetables)
7. Holiday
8. Wind Chimes
9. Whispering Winds (mixed into the end of Wind Chimes)
10. Good Vibrations
11. Look
12. Wonderful
13. Mama, Mama, Mama
14. Barnyard
15. The Old Master Painter/You Are My Sunshine
16. Mrs. O'Leary's Cow
17. Water Chant (taken from Sunflower for the thunder/wind effects)
18. I Love To Say Dada
19. Spanish Guitar snippet (where is it from?)
20. Heroes And Villains Suite ( a review of the first 19 songs)
21. With Me Tonight (from Hawthorne)
22. Child Is Father Of The Man (mixed onto the last note of With Me Tonight)
23. Our Prayer
24. Surf's Up (Intro/Track Only)
25. Surf's Up
26. Boys/Girls (Hidden Track - 30 second snippet taken from Hawthorne)

I've never made my own cause there's so many out there already.

This is my favoroite boot.

Edit: I took this boot info down, thought it may be in breach of the "rules" hope it didn't upset anyone.

Last mix I had went something like this:
1. Heroes and Villains (Our Prayer/Gee/Heroes)
2. Old Master Painter/You are my Sunshine
3. Do You Like Worms?
4. Wonderful
5. Child is Father of the Man
6. Cabinessence
7. Good Vibrations
8. Wind Chimes
9. Vegetables
10. The Elements (Fire intro-Fire/I Wanna be Around-Workshop/Hollidays tag/I Love to say Da-Da-Water chant)
11. Surf's Up

If I ever make another one, like to switch some stuff around so that Good Vibrations is on side 1 and Child begins side 2. That way, you can say that Child begins and ends side 2 (since Brian is playing a version of the chorus at the end of Surf's Up)

Yes, "Good Vibrations" is such a wild card. I've already started "Our Prayer" followed by "Good Vibrations"; I liked the transition. "Good Vibrations" always sounded better, to me anyway, earlier than later.

Our prayer
H & V
Barnyard
Do You Like Worms?
OMP/YAMS
He Give Speeches
Wonderful
Cabinessence
Look
Child
Tones
H&V Intro
Mrs. O'Leary's Cow
I Wanna Be Around/Woodshop
Wind Chimes
Vege-tables
Holidays
Surf's Up
You're Welcome

The Holidays Ending goes fits kind of nicely into the beginning of Surf's Up. Also, the 'Won-won' at the end of 'Wonderful' segues beautifully into the 'Boing-boing' of Cabinessence. Although 'Tones' isn't officially any part of SMiLE, it still is kind of neat to toss it in there, mainly because it's SMiLE era and it sounds like it fits right in.

"Tones" - to include or not to include? DAMAGED had it on his....It comes and goes with me. Oh, yes, it fits, a number of places, actually. "Tones" always reminded me of a ship slowly coming in to land, or something to that effect. In the recent thread on "Tones", it was pretty conclusive that it was a Carl project, so, if you're a "Brian-only purist", I guess it's out. But, if you're a "kitchen sink" compiler, it stays. :-D

Also, it appears some people are into "re-building" the barn after the fire, with "Workshop". I used it to "build the home on the range" after "Cabinessence".

Don't have one to share as I think the Purple Chick mix is near definitive. But, a question, how long are your mixes? Would it be feasible to put them on one LP in 1966??

My mix is about an hour. But, no, it would not have been feasible to put ALL of the SMiLE songs on one LP in 1966. But almost all of it...

Okay, here is the mix I've been listening to for a while:

1.   Prayer
2.   Heroes & Villains (Cantina Mix)
3.   Do You Like Worms
4.   Barnyard
5.   The Old Master Painter/You Are My Sunshine
6.   Wonderful
7.   Child Is Father Of The Man
8.   Cabin Essence
9.   Good Vibrations (alternate Hum-Be-Dum version)
10.   Wind Chimes
11.   Vegetables
12.   Elements Suite: Mrs O'Leary's Cow/Friday Night/Water Chant/Love to Say Dada (edited together)
13.   Holidays
14.   Surf’s Up (Annie Wallace Mix)
15.   Look

"Bonus Tracks"
16.I Wanna Be Around/Friday Night
17.Heroes & Villains and Barnyard Demo   
18.Vegetables Demo (Cornucopia Version)   
19.Surf’s Up (Brian Solo)   
20.Surf’s Up (Tracking)   
21.Good Vibrations (Tracking)   
22.Cabin Essence (Tracking)   
23.Bicycle Rider Theme   
24.With Me Tonight (Take 13)   
25.How I Love My Girl (Takes 8-10)   
26.Hum Be Dums (Section)   
27.My Children Were Raised (Section)   
28.Sunny Down Snuff (Section)

My SMiLE mix - tracks 1 to 15 - runs for 42 minutes . The "bonus tracks" help to tell the SMiLE story

Interesting end(ing), TonyW.

But, "Look" does work after "Surf's Up", both musically and lyrically. "I heard the word, wonderful thing, A CHILDREN'S SONG". Then comes "Look", or as BWPS would title it, "SONG FOR CHILDREN"!!!!!!

What is this Purple Chick mix mentioned so frequently, if it can be discussed? ???

Prayer (GVBox version)
H&V's (Cantina version)
Cabinessence
He Gives Speeches
The Old Master Painter/Sunshine
I Wanna Be Around/ Friday Night
Can't Wait Too Long (a cappella mix)
Wonderful
Look
CITFOTM
Surf's Up

Good Vibrations
Vegetables
Do You Like Worms (G.V. Box version)
Holidays
Wind Chimes
Fall Breaks and Back to Winter
Mrs. O'Leary's Cow
Water Chant
I Love to Say Da Da
Tones
Your Welcome
With Me Tonight (Harpsichord version)

I deliberatly left out Barnyard. I like DYLW right before Holidays because it connects melodically the first half of my mix with the second (a la the H&V theme), and it has the Roll Plymouth Rock melodic connection with Holidays. I like how Sunshine connects with IWBA as a way of coping with heartbreak..and then CWTL into WOnderful/Look/Child and Surf's Up conveys the aftermath in a sense of all that.

Good Vibes would've been the start of Side 2 had SMiLE! been released in 67 IMO, so I decided to start off side two with GV.

google "purple chick smile cd"...  :)

tells you all you need to know....

Prayer (with edit)
Do You Like Worms
Heroes and Villains (cantina)
Cabinessence (20/20)
Old Master Painter (with Dennis vocal and original tag)
Wonderful (GV box set)
Child is Father to the Man (3 minute instrumental track with chorus vocals)

Good Vibrations
I'm in Great Shape (IIGSpiano demo/IIGS instrumental take/Barnyard)
Vegetables (Andreas mix)
I Love to Say Dada (Water chant/Part 1/"flute bird sounds" part 2)
Mrs. O'Leary's Cow (no "intro")
Surf's Up (Brian solo version)
Prayer edit/"Amen" from Lord's Prayer

It's pretty much a stereo reconstruction of the 2004 version mostly using tracks from the original. It does use some of the 2004 tracks though (One point which works very well is the 60's Cabinessence ending with the 2004 tag. Wonderful.)

Can anyone tell me what software is needed to edit tracks together?


What is the Andreas mix?

This is my latest one.

1. Our Prayer
2. Heroes And Villains (2004 Edit starting with Gee)
3. Do You Like Worms
4. He Gives Speeches (Mok Version Sped Up)
5. Wonderful
6. With Me Tonight (Slow Version into Fast Version)
7. Child Is The Father Of Man
8. Cabin Essence
9. Good Vibrations
10. I'm In Great Shape Suite (Swedish Frog, I'm In Great Shape, Barnyard, Do A Lot, Vegetables Fade)
11. Wind Chimes
12 The Elements (Fire Intro, Mrs. O'Leary's Cow, Whispering Winds, Water Chant, Coolin dada water, Workshop)
13. Vege-Tables (Andreas Mix)
14. Surf's Up (Purple Chick into Original version)
15. Old Master Painter/You Are My Sunshine (With False Barnyard Fade)
16. You're Welcome

The Andreas Mix of Vege-Tables is a mix done from the mono pieces on SOT 17 but needed the original mono fade to complete.

Ok, i've been inspired to make my own smile mix.
I've had a few ideas for a while so it only took an afternoon to edit this all together.

Granted, i've omitted quite a few songs.
GV doesn't belong in my book, so it's out.
OMP,YAMS, Friday Night, Barnyard all dropped as they don't do much or go anywhere to me.
Also, i've opted to use Hawthorne versions of H&V and Vegatables which are Smiley Smile takes. Sacrilege maybe, they are better versions i think, particually H&V this version is better than the cantina version that many people favor.
I've also opted continue to have the suites as the Americana/Cycle of Life/Elements linage.

TRACKLISTING:

1. Untitled Instrumental [Spanish Guitar Piece] (Secret SMiLE Disc 2)
2. Heroes & Villians (Hawthorne)
3. Holidays (Odeon)
4. Heroes & Villians [Intro] (GV Box - Actually Fire Intro)
5. Do You Like Worms (Odeon)
6. Cabinessence (Extended Intro added* GV Box)
7. Heroes & Villians [Sections] (GV Box)
8. Prayer (GV Box)
9. Wonderful (Extended Intro added* Vigotone) (GV Box)
10. Child Is The Father Of The Man (Jazzy Part inserted at the start* Odeon)
11. Look (Odeon)
12. VegaTables (Hawthorne)
13. Wind Chimes (Extended Intro added* Secret SMiLE Disc 1) (GV Box)
14. Elements Part 1 [Fire] (Secret SMiLE Disc 2)
15. Waterchant (Odeon Cut from Cool, Cool, Water)
16. I Love To Say Da Da (Odeon)
17. Surfs Up [Instrumental + Demo] (Odeon)

*I didn't like how some of the songs started vocals straight away, with no musical introduction. I really enjoy the instrumental versions of the songs songs too, so I decided to often edit in the instrumental version (or part) of the song first.

If anyone wants to hear this, pm or email me.

Fun, isn't it? So, you're using the old "Spanish Guitar" snippet; I'd still like to know specifically where (what session) that came from.

Yeah, great fun. I really didn't want to do the usual "Prayer" up first & I thought that the Spanish guitar bit fitted in the H&V theme musically, like a wild west kind of thing. I think it works well.

I tried to have Tones/Tune X in there also, but since i've added instrumental intros to songs it would of been too much instrumental themes I think.

I was also going to put "Your Welcome" after "Surf's Up" but I decided that you can't have a better ending than SU!

So many people put "You're Welcome" after "Surf's Up" or at the end. I just don't get it. It sounds so much like a, well, a "welcoming" song, a song that would go at the beginning. DAMAGED, explain it to me. ???

Speaking for myself, I just think that You're Welcome is in a sense a response to , "Thank You". It definitely fits at the end for me, but I guess it could fit anywhere...what a simple and profound song!

"You're Welcome" TO COME. I never viewed it as thank you/you're welcome. It's those two words - TO COME - that hang me up. "You're welcome to come" - where, Brian? Where?

I think user noname has summed it up nicely. My thoughts exactly.

I see where your comming from with that.

Your mix looks like a good listen, I was looking at it closer before thinking about how the songs link together. "Your Welcome" at the start is a nice idea.

It's funny, I've toyed with so many opening songs for my SMiLE mixes, and I can't find any that I like better than "You're Welcome". "Our Prayer" always reminded me of a closing/near the end song, or, if I open with it, I follow with "Good Vibrations". For a long time I used "Look", because I like the opening chords and the way it "unfolds", almost like the sun rising. I also like the "Intro To Heroes And Villains" (the bells and whistles), followed by "Worms" or "Heroes"; that really gets your attention. But I keep coming back to "You're Welcome". I often wondered if it was ever seriously considered for SMiLE or BWPS; Brian actually performed it separately from BWPS at a few shows.

1. Our Prayer/Gee (purple chic)
2. Heroes and Villians (purple chic)
3. Old Master Painter (purple chic)
4. Do You Like Worms? (boxset)
5. Cabinessence (purple chic)
6. Workshop song
7. Wonderful (boxset)
8. Good Vibrations (single)
9. On a Holiday (Purple Chic)
10. Windchimes (purple chic)
12. vegetables (boxset)
13. Fall Breaks and Back to Winter
14. Cool cool water (boxset)
15. In Blue Hawaii (purple chic)
16. Cool cool water (sunflower)
17. Surf's up (71)

Fall Breaks is included as Fire, under the theory that Brian would have wanted his candle (and because I prefer it!)
The two versions of cool cool water with in blue hawaii create almost ten minutes of the most soothing music imaginable...and then the album surf's up, because its my favorite!  The rest isn't too exciting, basically, bits and pieces of purple chic rearranged to fit my own day to day fancies. 

My Mix...

Prayer...
Do You Like Worms...
I'm in Great Shape...
Barnyard...
He Gives Speeches/With Me Tonight...
Wonderful...
Cabinessence...
Old Master Painter/You are my Sunshine...
Heroes and Villains...
Child is Father to the Man...

Good Vibrations...
Vega-Tables...
Wind Chimes...
The Elements...
Surf's Up...

Bonus Tracks

45 mixes
Good Vibrations..
You're Welcome...

Heroes and Villains...
Vega-Tables...

Surf's Up...
Been Way Too Long...

Good Vibrations (Extended Mix)
Been Way Too Long (Mega-Mix)

stupid question, but what's the difference between the 45 mix and album version of Good Vibrations?

MD, what does yer elements suite consist of?

You're Welcome
Do You Like Worms?
I Love To Say Da Da
The Old Master Painer/You Are My Sunshine
I Wanna Be Around/Friday Night
Look
Good Vibrations

I'm In A Great Shape
Wonderful
Barnyard
Mrs. O'Leary's Cow
Water
Child Is The Father of the Man
Cabin Essence
Surf's Up
Our Prayer
Heroes and Villains

 :)

Don't Back Down, with "I Love To Say Dada" following "Worms", were you continuing the "nautical/sailing" theme, and then landing with "The Old Master Painter/You Are My Sunshine"?

Also, I'm always contemplating ending, like you did, with"Heroes And Villains; it's the perfect review song, tying everything together.

Don't Back Down, I really like your mix; I'd like to post an alternate SMiLE mix, using "Heroes And Villains" as the closer:

1. You're Welcome (to come on the SMiLE trip)
2. Do You Like Worms? (we're off!)
3. I Love To Say Dada (keeping the sailing going)
4. The Old Master Painter/You Are My Sunshine (landing)
5. Cabinessence (I'll give you a home on the range)
6. I Wanna Be Around/Workshop (building the home/barn)
7. Vegetables (cart off and sell my vegetables to pay for the home on the range)
8. "I got a big bag of vegetables" (from Hawthorne - mixed into the end of Vegetables)
9. Holidays (off selling the vegetables)
10. Wind Chimes (resting in the late afternoon)
11. Whispering Winds (mixed into the end of Wind Chimes)
12. Good Vibration (on the WIND that lifts her perfume through the AIR)
13. Look (a continuation of the Good Vibrations riff)
14. With Me Tonight (from Hawthorne; it's now night time)
15. Child Is Father Of The Man (mixed onto the last note of With Me Tonight)
16. Wonderful (farther down the path was a mystery)
17. Mama, Mama, Mama
18. Barnyard (the child wanders down the path to the barnyard)
19. Spanish Guitar snippet (that's the cow kicking over the lamp)
20. Fire
21, Water Chant (taken from Sunflower for the thunder/wind effects)
22. Surf's Up (Intro/Track only)
23. Surf's Up
24. Our Prayer
25. Heroes And Villains Suite (10 minutes long, a review/recap of the SMiLE trip)
26. Boys/Girls (a hidden track - 30 second snippet from Hawthorne)

Note: I love how "Surf's Up" follows the "Water Chant"; it sounds cool, we're still in the night time, and it ties in with the water theme. Also, does anybody see a connection between the barn (and parts of Chicago) burning down and "columnated ruins domino"? 

Thanks for crediting me. :)

It's actually an edit of 8 mono mixed sections from SOT 17 and one short section from the Smiley Smile version. Nothing is remixed by me, and nothing is cross-faded. It does not resemble the 2004 version.

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(An attempt at the proper album)
1. Prayer (GV box set)
2. Do You Like Worms (GV box set)
3. Wind Chimes (SOT 16)
4. Heroes And Villains (Feb. 67 mix, GV box set)
5. Surf's Up (piano solo, GV box set)
6. Good Vibrations (DCC Endless Summer)
7. Cabin Essence (Pastmasters 20/20)
8. Wonderful (GV box set)
9. I'm In Great Shape (third version, Psychedelic Sounds)
10. Child Is Father Of The Man (Vigotone, disc 1, track 5)
11. The Elements Part 1 Fire (mono mix with crackling fire sounds, Archaeology)
12. Water Chant (SOT 16, edited out from Love To Say Da Da to avoid the cross-fade)
13. Love To Say Da Da (GV box set)
14. I Wanna Be Around Friday / Friday Night (SOT 16)
15. Vega-Tables (personal mono edit, from SOT 17 mono mix attempts and a short part from the Smiley version)
(The remarkable thing about this version is that it only uses secion that were
already mixed to mono by Brian. No corss-fades were done, only hard edits.)
16. The Old Master Painter / You Were My Sunshine (Gema Smile)

(Outtakes)
17. You're Welcome (Smiley Smile / Wild Honey twofer)
18. Barnyard (SOT 16, one channel used to avoid fake stereo)
19. Look (SOT 17, "take 20")
20. Holidays (Archaeology)
21. He Gives Speeches (SOT 16)
22. Been Way Too Long (Gema Smile)
23. With Me Tonight (Archaeology, edited out from an assembly of two versions)
24. Tones (Secret Smile)
25. Unknown Instrumental (Secret Smile)

(Some instrumental tracks)
26. Wind Chimes (early track, SOT 17)
27. Surf's Up (track, GV box set)
28. Good Vibrations (track, GV box set)
29. Cabin Essence (track, GV box set)
30. Wonderful (track with additional backing vocals, Vigotone)
31. Heroes And Villains Intro (Archaeology)
32. The Elements Part 1 Fire (long take without overdubs, Archaeology)
33. The Old Master Painter / You Were My Sunshine (track, SOT 16)

(the officially released mixes)
34. Heroes And Villains (single mix, August 1967)
35. Surf's Up (from the album "Surf's Up", 1971)

Andreas, do you know if ANY of this song had its roots in the pre-May 1967 SMiLE sessions? 

You know, I didn't even think of it like that!
Thanks for the kind words :) Looking at your new mix: I can't believe I forgot Vegetables and Wind Chimes! haha Maybe I'll have to go back and make an edit.
Yeah I wasn't sure where to put Heroes and Villains even though it's at the beginning of BWPS, but then I thought about the ideas from the board about it being a good review as you point out.

I assume the 'spanish guitar' snippet you refer to is the little piece that sounds like it came out of the movie Dr. Zhivago? What's the name of that instrument again, a balilika or something? That's what that piece always reminded me of.

I do wonder when that was done. You can hear Brian in the studio counting, so he was one of the musicians.

Was there ever a session sheet found for 'Little Red Book'?  That, along with the Spanish Guitar piece, could be seen as Brian starting to 'strip down' the music.

Man, that looks interesting. Might have to edit this together to see how it sounds.

It does look interesting but man, i don't like it when people think SMiLE is a concept album. :-[

I don't have the exact running order for mine down pat yet, but my version has the first section of Heroes, up untill "dude'll do". Then it goes into Great Shape/Barnyard, then a snippit of an outtake of CabinEssence as an "intro" for Heroes(reprise), which contains the Cantina verse and concludes with the False Barnyard fade out.

Show us what you got - so far. Hey, all SMiLE mixes are works in progress; one is never completely satisfied; there's always new ideas....

I'm working on a "humor" section that would kind of look like this:

1. Vegatables(cornocopia version)

2. Vegatables Promo

3. He Gives Speeches(two minute edit)

4. With Me Tonight(uptempo version with Mike singing)

5. Wonderful(rock with me henry version)*

*possibly....

Submitted for your approval:

1. Our Prayer
2. Heroes and Villains (single version with "cantina" section added, as per BWPS)
3. Do You Like Worms?
4. Barnyard
5. The Old Master Painter/You Are My Sunshine
6. He Gives Speeches
7. Cabin Essence
8. Wonderful
9. Look
10. Child is Father of the Man
11. Good Vibrations
12. I Wanna Be Around/Workshop
13. Vega-Tables
14. Wind Chimes
15. Mrs. O'Leary's Cow
16. I Love To Say DaDa (with "Water Chant" incorporated at the beginning)
17. You're Welcome
18. Surf's Up (Anne Wallace version--it simply cannot be topped)

A 4th movement for the rock opera, the Humor Movement! ;D

I like it, Glenn. Very similar to BWPS, with "Surf's Up" and "Good Vibrations" flip-flopped; but I agree with the change. I'm curious if you ever experimented with flip-flopping "Our Prayer" and "You're Welcome"?

I don't find With Me Tonight particularly humorous . . . nor He Gives Speeches!  I'd edit in the Chicago taxidriver, the party reel "fall into the piano" bit, and the Wonderful tag "mama mama mama" bit. 

What?  No H&V Nuclear Bomb rant?  You gotta have that in there.  Now THAT'S comedy!

Are you talking about that "H&V" bit with Mike ranting about how badly "H&V" bombed? Or something else? All of this smog has my mind so muddled that I can't figure anything out. I'm about to toss my computer out of my bedroom window, this smog has me so irate.

Question, for nobody in particular: What is the best Dada approach? I like both "part 1" and "part 2", but I don't favor one over the other. They both have parts I like, but not one more so than the other. Also, where does the "water chant" go? Do I put it at the start as an intro? Do I stick it somewhere in the middle to "bridge" the two parts?

You should use the alternate version of part 2 off of Secret SMiLE.

I usually put "Water Chant" after "Mrs. O'Leary's Cow", the most "popular" way I guess. However, one time I was trying to be different, so I started the CD with "Water Chant" and went immediately into "Do You Like Worms". It sounded awesome! And I thought, wouldn't that be cool to give a SMiLE Sessions CD to a friend who knows nothing about it and start it out like that, with all those voices coming out at you. Mind blowing!

That's a brilliant way to start the album!  ;D I've always loved the water chant. Who knew that just voices alone could sound so psychedelic?

Thanks, Sheriff!

Knowing that "Our Prayer" was always intended to be the album opener, no, I never thought to flip-flop it with "You're Welcome."  In my sequencing, I consider "You're Welcome" to be the lead-in to "Surf's Up," which I see as the end of the journey.  With "Surf's Up," you've reached your destination, and as you're arriving, you're greeted with the message that "you're welcome to come."

I usually put I Wanna Be Around and Workshop after Fire...makes a nice segue into Cool Cool Water.

"Cool Cool Water" from Sunflower? Is that where your "Water Chant" is included?

YES!! Though I've also done one where it goes from the Wild Honey-era Cool Cool Water into the Water Chant into Love To Say Da Da.

I once did one very similar. It went "Mrs. O'Leary's Cow" into "Water Chant" directly into the Wild Honey "Cool Cool Water", and then it went directly into "I Love To Say Dada". Same concept, slightly different order....

After being dormant for awhile, Jay, Glenn, and Jeff got me going again....

I'm constantly looking for a song to follow "Do You Like Worms". I gotta land that ship! It's rolling over the waves, off into the horizon, but it's gotta land. I need a song to get me to "lost and found you still remain there" and "I'll build you a home on the range" in "Cabinessence". I need a linking song; I've tried "Holidays" and even "Tones". "Tones" kinda sounds like a ship coming into the shore, doesn't it? I suppose I could play it safe and go with "TOMP/YAMS", and utilize the line "please don't take my sunshine away", and go right into "Cabinessence".

But, I keep going back to "Look". Does anybody else think that "Look" sounds like a sailing/boat song? With the "Sloop John B" flutes? The driving beat is the boat chugging along, then one of the mates spots the land and says "Look!" Then the driving beat again, until it finally lands....

I was surprised when "Look" turned out to be a children's song.

Depends how 'Smile' you want it to be, but 'Mona Kani' seems pretty nautical to me

I want Dennis' I Don't Know and the Jasper Dailey tracks to surface so I can stick them in a SMiLE mix!!



Hell, I've stuck Cool Cool Water, Three Blind Mice, My Little Red Book, and Doves of Free/Indian Wisdom in my SMiLE mixes!!!

Do you choose "Cool Cool Water" over "I Love To Say Dada"? While I know "Dada" was composed and recorded during the "SMiLE sessions", "Cool Cool Water" works better in some configurations. It depends if I want to be a purist or not....

This is one of the best threads online right now. "Cabin Essence" is my #1 favorite Beach Boys recording… Always has been. What's really amazing is there's STILL so much dedication to figuring it out. Ideally, what works for you as a SMiLE lineup, is your SMiLE. That's the beauty of Brian's disjointedness at the time. "Diamond Head" (from Friends) is certainly part of the picture.  Why didn't SMiLE come out in 1966 or 1967? One answer: Chemicals. Debate all you want about Mike Love not liking it, etc., but it was Brian's choices to take chemicals that altered his perception, and it was Brian's choice to shelve it.



BWPS is a finished vision that works. I'm thankful it's out there. But it's a far cry from everything that happened in the 1960s.

I have finally sliced my Smile mix down to a length that would (kind of sort of) fit on an LP in 1967.  It could happen so many ways and I am not completely happy with this order, but when will I ever be completely satisfied with a Smile mix?  Never!  I split the elements up into two.  I go back and forth between GV starting side 2 or ending side 2.  I think it kind of works as the last track, with Surf's Up being Smile's dark night of the soul, and then GV ending on a note of levity.

Side A
Prayer/You're Welcome (they are in the same key and run together well.  I put manic laughing from Brian's skit tapes fading up along with You're Welcome
Heroes and Villains (long version including Great Shape, Barn Yard and Old Master Painter, plus every available H&V section from 1967 versions, also I use the version of the first verse with Mike and Brian trading lead vocals, ends with prelude to the fade and the H&V horn with the descending strings, then barnshine)
Do You Like Worms? (I put the H&V chorus at the end instead of the harpsichord fade)
Cabinessence
Mrs. O'Leary's Cow (Fire, I wanna be around, friday night, 3:03 in length, I cut down the length main fire music just a bit, I used the chimes version of the H&V/Fire intro as the intro)
Vega-Tables (4:50 minute version using cornucopia version as first two verses, with music from Do A Lot run underneath, then I make use of the box set version for the second half, and run an edit of the Vegie arguments over the top of the box set version fade.  Also I use a few chants from the spoken word/skit tapes)

Side B
Wonderful (including He Gives Speeches and parts of the Rock with me Henry version)
Look (edited down to 1 and a half minutes with Gee tacked on to the end.)
Child Is Father Of The Man (including CIFOTM piano version, the isolated backing vox from the end of the 1971 Surf's Up recording and the "boys and girls" H&V backing vocals from Hawthorn CD.)
Wind Chimes (with an intro of a small clip from the "birds" version of Da Da, then box set version, I put heavy breathing from one of Brian's skit tapes over the end))
Water (including pieces of Water Chant and Holidays with lots of water sound effects including the ones on the Bob Gordon's Trip tape.  I open the track with the thunder from Diamond Head--I know this is cheating but it works real well as a link between Windchimes and Water)
Surf's Up
Good Vibrations (with the ending extended using the full backing track without the fade.)

Gee, thanks, Dave. Now I have to re-think an entire section.

Just kidding....Any thoughts you have regarding your own personal SMiLE mix would be appreciated.

I never used "He Gives Speeches" in a SMiLE mix, mainly because I never knew where to use it? Anybody out there (still) using it, and, where in your mix are you putting it?

I like your idea of a "recap", with a H&V Suite.  :) Dumb question: What's "Mama Mama Mama"?

I've never been 100% satisfied with all of the Vega-Tables edits I've heard. So, I'm making my own version, piece by piece. Let's hope that I am able to hold on to my sanity.  ;D

Or he's mentally ill and these things mentioned affected him differently than they would you. There is no single, simple reason it wasn't completed back then.

Also, wut @ "Diamond Head" 'certainly' being part of the picture.

I believe it was an insert that was going to be used in the January version of Wonderful. There's 3 parts I believe:
1. Someone going mama mama mama (Mike I believe)
2. Brian (or others) on nose kazoo
3. 1-3 members shouting "we ooh!"

I remember I tacked it onto the original construction of Wonderful once...didn't sound good AT ALL!

Regarding "Mama Mama Mama", what he said^

However, I still use it. I feel like I have to put something after "Wonderful" because of the abrupt ending. I'm still not 100% sure that "Look" (or "Song For Children") was intended to be grafted onto "Wonderful", even though it works well on BWPS.

Because of the lyrics on "Wonderful", I think "Mama Mama Mama" does sound related.

Finally, I use it because I think it sounds cool, and I try to include as much legitimate SMiLE recordings as I can, without it getting too out there. :police:

"Mama Mama Mama" sounds a bit better being grafted on the end of "He Gives Speeches".

Roger, do you have a personal SMiLE mix and do you use "He Gives Speeches"? If yes, where?

The last time I put one together was 1999. I liked BWPS enough that I never bothered doing another one after its release (although I pieced the original recordings together according to the BWPS sequencing just to hear how it sounded).

Here's my 1999 rundown:

1) Prayer (leading into "Gee" and "How I Love My Girl" - yep, just like the official one would do five years later)

2) Heroes & Villains (The string section, clip-clop and flutter horn lead into the "Cantina" mix with the various "Sections" chants interpolated in place of the eventual "Bicycle Rider" chorus. I also worked in the "peace in the valley" verse and the acapella final verse from the single release; the latter featured the "Swedish Frog" grunting section blended underneath so the laughter would breakout prior to Brian's "...by the Heroes and...").

3) Do You Like Worms? ("Bicycle Rider" chorus edited in place)

4) Old Master Painter/You Were My Sunshine

5) Wonderful (just like on BWPS, it transitioned into...)

6) Look (hard edit after the "12th Street Rag" vamp to...)

7) He Gives Speeches (hard edit to "Mama Mama Mama" with unused portion of "Swedish Frog" blended in as couterpoint. Hard edit to...)

8) The Child Is Father Of The Man (rearranged to include only the early version sessions documented on SOT as well as vocal round and piano. Crossfade into...)

9) Cabin Essence (instrumental chorus track leads into first verse - train effects added. Coda extended instrumentally)

10) Good Vibrations (various sessions act as an extended introduction. Choruses replaced by alternate take choruses. Additional "Hum-de-hum" vocals added from alternate take as well. Ending extended ala Steve Hoffman mix).

11) Vegetables ("Tag To Vegetables" used as an intro. Hard edit on beat to "I wanna be 'round my..." Sections tightened through editing much like BWPS would do)

12) Wind Chimes (just like BWPS, my mix was a blending of the original complete backing track with the marimba-based verse section. Again like BWPS, this led directly into...)

13) Mrs. O'Leary's Cow ("Heroes & Villains Intro" section first followed by string section as BWPS would do. Hard edit after final percussion crash to "I Wanna Be Around". Hard edit on hammer hit to lightning strike effect followed by thunder and rain crossfading into...)

14) I Love To Say Dada (The "Water Chant" was interpolated in the middle of this during the second rest. The unused "My children were raised" section from the H & V single served as an intro to...)

15) Surf's Up ('71 version but crossfaded to Brian's solo version after the "Children's song..." round to extend the outro).

OK, I'm stating the obvious here, but, did you ever notice the similarities between "Do You Like Worms" and "I Love To Say Dada", specifically the nautical theme, the Hawaiian/water chants, and the bass.

I'm always looking for that follow up song to "Do You Like Worms", preferably another "water/ship" song. What about "I Love To Say Dada" following "Do You Like Worms"? It kind of keeps the ship chugging along until it lands.

Then I have to find a follow up song to graft onto "The Water Chant" after "Mrs. O'Leary's Cow". I've been toying with mixing "Diamond Head" into "The Water Chant"; those sparks/ping pings and thunder that begin "Diamond Head" sound cool following "The "Water Chant", and then you're really into the water. The only thing is, "Diamond Head" is a very questionable song for a SMiLE mix - if you're a purist. Anybody?

Mine is composed mostly of the PC mix with a few additions because the mono on some tracks is actually vastly superior in sound to PC's forced stereo (particularly on Wind Chimes), and I subtract "Holidays" because I'm sure that would have stayed an outtake or would have been used on the SMiLE follow up, and it doesn't really fit in the middle of the Elements suite, as BWPS has it, even with the Wind Chimes coda attached.

1. Our Prayer/ Gee
2. Heroes and Villains -- the long version with the linking segments in the end and the Cantina sequence.
3. Do You Dig Worms? -- original title, version where the piano seamlessly segues into the Bicycle Rider sequence, I also added in the vocal overdub version of the opening on it's second appearance in the track.
4. Barnyard/ The Older Master Painter/ You Are My Sunshine
5. Cabinessence
6. Wonderful - mix fades into Song for Children
7. Song for Children
8. Child Is Father of the Man
9. Surf's Up - not the 70's version, original demo with the added instruments and other overdubs.

10. I'm in Great Shape/ I Wanna Be Around
11. Workshop/ Vegetables
12. Wind Chimes -- mono mix, added the "whispering winds" chant at the beginning that fades into the track, and an additional "booming chorus" after the bridge, then it fades out with the "wind chime" piano sequence
13. Cool Cool Water -- mix puts I Love to Say Dada at the end, added echo effect on the chanting middle part (sounds awesome)
14. Mrs. O'Leary's Cow -- added an additional two rounds from another take, no fire effects, but PC added the "Fall Breaks" chants, which sounds good. I put it after Cool Cool Water (although Brian probably would have done it the other way for thematic purposes), I find the track rather climactic, so I put it last in the elements suite.
15. Heroes and Villains --  this is the minute long piano sequence found as a part of the H&V sessions which fades into the "Bicycle Rider" instrumental, quickly segueing out to...
16. Good Vibrations -- PC's "creative liberty" mix with added session vocal overdubs at the end and the extended coda that halts rather than fades out.
17. You're Welcome  (as a hidden track)

Then I also include the tracks "He Give Speeches" (the longer version with the overdubs, and an additional instrumental section I compiled from the first 30 seconds or so that fades out at the end) "Tones" and "Holidays" as bonus tracks. I used to include "Tones" in right between "Do You Dig Worms?" and "Barnyard" but I found it really dragged the album out too long.  

Alternatively, I think if Smile had been released by the rest of the Beach Boys after Brian canceled his involvement, they would have just treated the tracks as more or less like any other album, and it could have looked something like this:

1. Our Prayer/ Gee
2. Heroes and Villains (single)
3. Do You Like Worms?
4. Barnyard/ You Are My Sunshine
5. Cabinessence
6. Wonderful

7. Good Vibrations (single)
8. Child Is Father of the Man
9. Vegetables
10. Wind Chimes
11. Cool Cool Water
12. Fire
13. Surf's Up (piano version)

I don't know - Diamond Head's a great song to put in a smile mix as it fits so well, and is so atmospheric that it really hammers home and consolidates the hawaiian elements of Smile. Anyway if you want to be purist about it, might aswell toss away the complete Cabinessence, seeing as it's from 20/20 an' all, plus any Mark Linnet mixes that have come from the GV box - my point being, I think a smile mix can legitimately incorporate tracks from later albums. A truly purist 66/67 only smile mix would be a pretty fragmentary listening experience I think. I wish someone would do such a mix though - would be nice to listen to a mix that was completely 66 67 bits, raw & unedited.

Interesting. Very interesting. Thanks for posting it. A couple of questions...

- Do you fade out "Heroes And Villains" with the rambling "False Barnyard"?

- What is your theory putting "Cool Cool Water"  BEFORE the fire?

- Do you like "Good Vibrations" at the end or couldn't you settle on a place for it? :-D

- Do you use "Song For Children" from BWPS or "I Ran"?

Do you or anybody else use it? One of these days/years I hope to stumble on why it was on an early setlist for BWPS live.

I'm confused about the "Spanish Guitar" tune. This isn't "Indian Wisdom"? not sure if I've heard it.

I put Little Pad and Diamond Head back-to-back on my SMiLE mix. If you cross-fade the two songs on the last "verse" of Little Pad, the actual music for Diamond Head starts just as Little Pad fades out.

While this is not a documented certainty, my understanding why it was included in eary setlists is because the original idea in 2002/2003 was to perform SMiLE-era songs live (or, at least, rare ones from that period), not just specific numbers that would have been considered SMiLE tracks in '66/'67. It's possible as well that "Diamond Head" was considered for the live show's first half, before the performance of BWPS. "Time To Get Alone" was also included in the early set list and, as Mr. Doe has pointed out, that song was performed a few times in the first half of the show during that period (although, apparently, not all that successfully).

My Heroes and Villains is essentially the PC mix, so it segues into Do You Dig Worms?. The "reprise" is just there for my own personal liking, and comprises a minute long segment from one of the Heroes and Villains sessions that I liked but didn't want to include in the actual track.

I know Brian would have probably had Cool Cool Water come after fire as a means to "douse" it, but personally I just like it coming afterward because it sounds like such a climactic track. I clipped the very end of "I Love to Say Dada" (which is the tail end of Cool Cool Water), so that the final beat actually becomes the opening kazoo whistle for the Mrs. O'Leary's Cow... it's a seamless transition that just sounds cool... you have all these "wa wa ho wa..." sounds just cruising along and then all of a sudden "knock!" and you're submerged in the pandemonium Mrs. O'Leary's Cow. Then at the end it rumbles to a pounding finish and becomes the Heroes and Villains piano reprise... almost as a way to regain some balance after the destruction and to connect the main parts of the Elements suite to the grand finale Good Vibrations... the vibrations themselves almost representing the presence of a "fifth element" coming in at the very end. I do think that Brian had intended the Heroes and Villains theme to be used in various areas throughout the album.

Personally I like Good Vibrations at the very end. I was one of the people who got into Smile only after hearing BWPS (in fact, that album got me into the Beach Boys to begin with), so my version tends to mirror the released one because I figure if it were released, for the most part, it probably would have had somewhat of a similar line up to the released one eventually with a few exceptions. It's very likely that Good Vibrations would have gone at the end. I think it's possible that "I'm in Great Shape" could have gone with "Barnyard" because they both seem to have agricultural themes and I know Brian was envisioning a "down on the farm" kind of suite at one time.

I have the PC mix of Song for Children, that segues into Child is Father of the Man, and doesn't include the children's theme in the middle (the one that goes "dee dee dee daa doot...dee dee dee daa doot... dee deet da deet dee dee, doot." --don't know what it's called).

That part was from a song called "12th Street Rag".

Here's my mix:

(Prayer)
Heroes and Villains
Do You Like Worms
I'm In Great Shape (+Barnyard/I Wanna be Around/Friday Night)
The Old Master Painter (+Sunshine/Barnshine)
Cabin Essence
Wonderful

Good Vibrations
Vega-Tables
Wind Chimes
The Elements (Fire/Water Chant/Dada)
Child Is Father Of The Man
Surf's Up

I'm wondering if this is close to how it might've come out in late '66/early '67, with a Side A and a Side B, of course. Meade had a very similar setlist in a previous post, too....

And, Roger Ryan, you're right, "Mama Mama Mama" does sound real good grafted to the end of "He Gives Speeches". I'm also experimenting right now with grafting "The Old Master Painter/You Are My Sunshine" to the end of "He Gives Speeches"; doesn't sound as good as "Mama Mama Mama, though.

Thank you for your comment. That's kind of what I was aiming for. As per Brian's sequence on BWPS, I mostly put the Americana stuff on side one, and Wonderful seemed to work pretty well in that context, and also seemed to segue into Good Vibrations on the second side-- both songs have a sense of innocence. The second side gets progressively "heavier" moving toward the end. I really like having Child is Father to the Man right before Surf's Up on side 2 since they deal with aging and mortality.

Hey everyone. This thread finally convinced me to register. I'm all for speculating about what 1967's Smile would have been like, but fan mixes always kind of bug me. It's either some fan stereo mix that doesn't quite work (not that some aren't amazing), or the inclusion of what I consider the unusable version of Barnyard that gets thrown around or something like that. I've taken a more retrospective, practical approach. My mix tries to capture the appeal of all the session tapes/bootlegs while keeping the cohesion of an actual album. My tracklisting was inspired by one of my favorite Smile essays, where the author speculates on the connection between Smile and Zen Buddhism. Furthermore the ordering is supposed to in some ways recreate the story of Smile itself.

1. Prayer [Without "Gee"]
2. Good Vibrations
3. Medley; Wonderful, Vege-Tables, Wind Chimes [Comprised of Smile takes]
4. Do You Like Worms [Edited as a sort of intro to Heroes]
5. Heroes and Villains ["You Are My Sunshine" Tag]
6. Cabinessence
7. Fire/I Wanna Be Around/Workshop
8. Medley; Vege-Tables, Wind Chimes, Wonderful [Comprised of Smiley Smile takes]
9. Water/Child is the Father of the Man
10. Surf's Up
 
I've made a lot of special modifications myself. There are lots of little snippets of studio banter, I've used the Hawthorne version of With Me Tonight in the medley and just random other stuff like that.

This looks like a pretty good play list.  Short and sweat but you hit all the key points.  Now the question is how long can you stay with this mix before you want to tinker with it and make your next "very last final" Smile mix.  I have quit lying to myself--I will never be completely satisfied.

Me too! Since Brian says in the Hawthorne track "If you sing this with a SMiLE...", I had to use it. :-D.

Where do you place it?

I'm with you, brother. After many years of being a purist, I'm thinking about adding SMiLE-era songs like "Diamond Head", "Cool Cool Cool Water" (from the Wild Honey sessions), and the "Spanish Guitar". They're so good, I hate to leave them off! :-D

You know, when I hear Brian say that, for some reason it gives me goose bumps.

Ya know, even though Da-Da is musically like CoolWater I tend to use the second day takes of it and...Voila! you get AIR. I'm gonna try an edit of the two days work and see if I can use that after woodshop, which of course comes after Fire...hmmm.

For fun, I've wanted to make a real "earthy" earth segment by putting the "Swedish Frog" vocals over the fade to Vegetables music.  :)

Ok I've come up with a new sequence that is really doing it for me, and giving me those 'just-heard-smile-for-the-1st-time goosebumps:

Our Prayer
Heroes Pt 2 (basically my edit comprising Gee, followed by all the dit dit Heroes bits as found in 'Heroes Sections' but ending with Prelude To Fade)
Barnyard
Heroes & Villains Cantina version
Old Master Painter
Cabinessence (Vigotone version with no vocals other than Doing Doings) OMG those Doings are the most beautiful things I'v evr heard!
instrumental Cabinessence fade
Child Is Father Of The Man
All Day (Da Da bird sounds) segues beautifully into...
Holidays
Windchimes
Tag to Heroes part 1 (lone piano thing, really follows nicely from piano outro of windchimes)
Heroes intro
Fire
IWBA/Workshop - definitely rebuilding after the fire. Was meant to follow Fire imo
Vegetables - Fade sounds so watery, and so ...
Water Chant
Love to say Dada (my edit, that ends with the piano part that definitely sounds like a sketch for a 3rd part to Dada. This section sounds similar to the woodchuck piano thing from Child)
Do You Like Worms - the weird early version from Vigotone. Wow, just stumbled upon this the other day, and don't know how I'd overlooked it. Was like hearing fresh smile material for the first time. It's low-fi but reminds me of My Bloody Valentine or something. Incredible. Plus it says "Good Vibrations Take 1" at the end which leads nicely into ...
Good Vibrations
Wonderful (Yodel ay ee oo version)
Look
Surf's Up (Track only)
Surf's Up demo
You're Welcome

This is a mix I've been fiddling with for a bit:

"You guys feelin' the acid yet?" (clip from session talk)
Prayer (with laughter at the end)
1) Heroes And Villains (a mix of the Cantina & Smiley versions)
"Somebody bring Mike another bag of money" (session clip)
2) The Old Master Painter/Sunshine
3) Do You Like Worms
With me Tonight (the "Sing that with a smile" clip from Hawthorne CD)
4) Wonderful
Little Pad intro w/laughter
5) Cabin Essence
6) Child Is Father of The Man

You're Welcome
7) Good Vibrations
8) Wind Chimes
9) I'm In Great Shape (w/Barnyard and Swedish frog)
10) Vega-tables (a mix of cornucopia/Smiley versions)
11) The Elements
I Wanna Be Around
H&V Intro from boxed set
Mrs. O' Leary's Cow
Workshop
water chant/Da Da
George Fell Into His French Horn
12) Surf's Up
Bicycle Ride tag from DYLW

Hmmmm... lemme think about this.... this isn't a complete tracklist, just a rough idea.

SIDE ONE: AMERICANA
01) Our Prayer
-The Heroes And Villains Suite-
[ 02) Heroes and Villains (Part 1) with 'Cantina' / ends with clip-clop and harmonica
[ 03) Bicycle Rider / Do You Like Worms? / ends with "doo d-do do do doo... doo... doo!" and rising harmonies, instead of "woo woo woooooo..."
[ 04) Heroes and Villains (Part 2) staring with 'Gee' and ending just before 'Swedish Frog'
[ 05) I'm In Great Shape (piano demo) / ends with 'Swedish Frog'
[ 06) Barnyard
[ 07) The Old Master Painter / You Are My Sunshine, with the downward cello sliding into...
[ 08) Heroes and Villains (Part 2), from "a-heroes!  a-heroes!" onward, ending with a full chorus and 'False Barnyard'
09) Cabinessence

SIDE TWO: CHILDHOOD
01) He Gives Speeches
02) Wonderful
03) Look [full length, with the sections not used in BWPS]
04) Child Is Father Of The Man
05) Surf's Up

SIDE THREE: BAG OF TRICKS
01) You're Welcome
02) Good Vibrations [original lyrics + hum de dum section]
03) Rock With Me, Henry
04) My Little Red Book
05) With Me Tonight / Heroes and Villains reprise [the "Reprise" track from Mok's Smile]
06) George Fell Into His French Horn [heavily edited]
07) Tones
08) Good Vibrations reprise [organ-led version of 'gotta keep those lovin' good...' bridge]

SIDE FOUR: THE ELEMENTS
01) Vega-Tables
02) Holidays / Whispering Winds
03) Wind Chimes
04) Mrs. O'Leary's Cow
05) I Wanna Be Around / Workshop
06) Water Chant / I Love To Say Da Da
07) Our Prayer reprise [from section heard on BWPS to the full version's natural ending]

I'm *very* unsure about Side Three - that's just my 'filler side'.

Where does one find such elusive gems like Rock With Me Henry, Little Red Book, Tones (the actual Tones.  I've heard Holidays listed as Tones), and Indian Wisdom?  I've never located them, not that I'd try any illegitimate releases.  Also, I'm still a little unclear on what constitutes False Barnyard and Fade to Vegetables.  Any insight would be most appreciated.

Rock With Me Henry is a variation of Wonderful - I own it on the Odeon digipack "Smile", as well as the Unsurpassed Masters "Smile".

Little Red Book is, I believe, on the Vigotone "Smile".  And YouTube!

Tones, several versions of it, are on "Secret Smile".

Indian Wisdom.... I don't know if this is properly titled, but on the 'Big Grin' version of "Smile", this title was given to the "Untitled Instrumental" that appears every now and then.  It's given the 'Untitled' name on Project SMiLE for instance.

I've been fooling around with the idea of "flowing in" the cornicopia verse from the early Vega-Tables demo with the "standard" 1967-ish version with all the construction tool sounds. Would this work at all?

Something that came up in another thread, what unheard smile elements still exist? I imagine that at this point everything that still exists has been discussed. It's possible things like the instrumental track for the second half of Surf's Up were recorded, but I've read that all these "believed to have been recorded but still unheard" songs had been confirmed missing from the tape vaults. If there are still unheard things in the vaults, why hasn't someone like David Leaf or Darian brought their existence to our attention?

Also, what exactly is False Barnyard? I've read that it is a version of You Were My Sunshine that was part of Heroes and Villains? Just for the sake of reference, where has this appeared? I've never seen it before.

False barnyard is the minute-ish long fade at the end of the cantina mix of heroes and villians, and it uses the falsetto melody from "he give's speeches." It was mislabeled as barnyard because the original fade to heroes and villians was the actual barnyard.  When the real barnyard was rediscovered on an acetate, it became known as false barnyard.  then we found another acetate, which had the same fade with extra vocals about "when skies are gray" and realized that it had originally been intended as the fade to You Were my Sunshine (which makes you were my sunshine a full two minute song).  Thus, it became known as "barnshine." 

for such questions, the old smile shop is a great resource: http://www.thesmileshop.net/index.php/Old_Master_Painter_/_You_Are_My_Sunshine

a really fun site to explore! 
as for unheard smile elements, if we knew about them, they wouldn't be unheard!! 
seriously tho, our only real hope is in acetates.  I'm personally holding out hope for the collection of one M. Love...I have a feeling he would have kept all the acetates im sure brian gave him, and he's also the only one i can imagine who might not have mentioned them to the official archivists.   

I have a feeling that whatever unheard SMiLE tapes that may exist would probably be owned by some random person who just happened to be around Brian long enough to get an acetate or two. Danny Hutton, for example. Whoever still may own SMiLE tapes probably has forgotten that he or she ever owned them. I would imagine that there are tapes laying around somebody's garage or closet, not being thought of in 40 or more years.

Thanks to TheLazenby and BJL for clearing up some issues.  The funny thing is, I should have a couple of the items.  Perhaps they aren't named correctly on the downloads I have, er the downloads which I could be in possession of if I were such an unscrupulous character.

OK, I've gone back and forth a lot but thanks to some of the members here, this is what I've come up with today:

Side 1:
1. Our Prayer
2. Heroes and Villains
3. The Old Master Painter/You are my Sunshine
4. Do you Like Worms?
5. Vega-Tables (I figured it would go well before Cabinessence. You get the old timey feel in Cabinessence. This is a "harvesting of the produce" song  ;D)
6. Cabinessence

Total time: 14:30

Side 2:
1. Good Vibrations
2. Wonderful
3. Child is Father of the Man (The first 3 here are due to the conversations we in the "pregnant" thread. I think it makes a lot of sense without it being a "themed cycle.")
4. Wind Chimes (I mentioned how my CIFOTM mix ends with the chime. This is sorta the "dream sequence.)
5. The Elements (This is the "nightmare." Fire starts it and the water part while soothing with the "Dada" part ends with the chant which gives a drowning effect. I decided not to do air because Brian never completed it and I'm not convinced he completed earth either.)
6. Surf's Up (I think this song is a summary of the events of side 2. The lyrics are abstract but not as much as you may think. Diamond necklace recalls the jewelry mentioned in Wonderful for example.)

Total time: 18:30

Complete time for LP: 33 minutes, perfect for a 1967 LP.

"Vegetables" WAS the Earth section.  Look at the booklet that was supposed to accompany the album... Vegetable is identified as the 'earth' section of The Elements.  How so many people miss this, I dunno.

Are you talking about the image where there's a cracked house with "Vega, Vega, Vega" near it?

Because if that's the case I guess Wind Chimes is in the elements too (since there's a window there.) In addition, Vega-Tables is a separate track on the temporary back cover that was drawn up. I think it MAY have been in the Elements at one point but Brian changed his mind (as he did with other things.)

The version of the book I saw had a caption saying something like "Vega-Tables - The Elements" under it.

Anyways... I've always liked Ryan Guidry's version of the album; I've actually seen his tracklist around the 'net as the supposed 'real' 1967 line-up.  It's not really cohesive, but it does gather everything together in a presentable fashion:

SIDE ONE: Americana
01) Our Prayer
02) Heroes and Villains Part 1
03) Gee / Heroes and Villains Part 2
04) Barnyard
05) Do You Like Worms
06) The Old Master Painter / You Are My Sunshine
07) He Gives Speeches  [speed corrected]
08) Wonderful
09) Child Is Father Of The Man
10) Cabinessence
11) Bicycle Rider  [the instrumental H&V interlude]

SIDE TWO: Elemental
01) Good Vibrations  [Smiley Smile version]
02) Look
03) Vegetables
04) Holidays
05) Wind Chimes
06) Mrs. O'Leary's Cow
07) I Wanna Be Around / Friday Night
08) I Love To Say Da Da
09) Surf's Up

(And if you're wondering, those "sides" are *just* a bit too long to comprise a vinyl LP, coming in around 24 minutes each.)

Vegetables as earth never worked for me.  The elements were apparently supposed to be instrumental in nature.  Vegetables may have been the initial earth element  but Brian apparently decided to make non lyrical representations of the elements.  Singing about fire couldn't possibly approach the intensity of the actual fire element.  Vegatables did show up in Holmes' artwork as an element due to time constraints from the label but he had a different earth element which morphed into Fall Breaks.  Wind Chimes is also not an element as he had a piano piece which served as such but was never apparently finished and not present on tape.  Dada, which never really fit the bill as an element, has been stated under good authority to be the water element, doesn't really fit the bill either.  The water chant, aka Dada part 1, was the start of the element but was not finished during the smile sessions, and subsequently evolved into Cool, Cool Water, which is certainly not a true elemental track.  Brian had something else in mind.  The best possible candidate is Diamond Head, but that suffers as an element from having several different composers and not being recorded until 1968. 

Nothing is as it seems in the scheme of SMiLE.

Ah, I know what you're referring to. That's weird since the back does have Vega-Tables as a separate track.

SMiLE once again is fucking with us  :lol

I'm perfectly content accepting "Vega-Tables" as Earth, "Wind Chimes" as Air, "Mrs. O'Leary's Cow" as Fire (duh), and "I Love To Say Da Da" as Water.

That just leaves "Holidays", which doesn't seem to fit the theme (kinda Water?), but it does work in that line up....  I dunno, I think Brian's 2004 vision of 'The Elements' works fine.

With all the recent threads and talk about SMiLE lead songs, movements, "Heroes And Villains" sections, song lists, etc. - has anybody made any changes and would anybody like to share their latest mix?

What is it with you and SMiLE mixes?  :lol  :p

It's an obsession. When Brian scrapped SMiLE, it's spirit entered my soul and it's trying to get out. >:D ah wah wah ho wah

FINALLY SOMEONE AGREES WITH ME ABOUT FALL BREAKS!!!

What a fun thread!  I haven't been to this site in ages, and wondered if I could even still log in.  Fortunately, I found that I can.  

I have a couple of fan mixes I've done.  They're not anything that out of the ordinary.

The mixes I've seen listed make me think I might like to do some more monkeying around with the collection of SMiLE sessions I have and see what I can come up with.

I'll post one of my two fan mixes quickly for you.  It contains the most fully realized stuff I could find (lots of it from either Mok's SMiLE or Fast Eddie's 2004 Reconstruction).  There's also a few things I edited together myself (using soundforge software).  

I call it "REVEREND ROCK'S ULTIMATE SMILE"
 
PART ONE (fairly polished stuff)
1.  Our Prayer (from Mok)
2.  Heroes and Villians Complete (my own creation, using sections from the remixed stereo version of the single and Odeon SMiLE--over ten minutes)
3.  Do You Like Worms (from Mok)
4.  The Old Master Painter/You Are My Sunshine
5.  He Gives Speeches
6.  Wonderful (Good Vibrations box set version)
7.  Child Is Father Of The Man (my own specialized edit using about three diffferent sessions)
8.  Good Vibrations (from Mok--with an edit of the hum-de-hum section from Fast Eddie)

PART TWO (rougher sessions)
9.  Barnyard (from Fast Eddie)
10.  I'm In Great Shape (from Fast Eddie)
11.  George Fell Into His French Horn (excerpts edited from Vigotone)
12.  With Me Tonight (from Odeon)

PART THREE (An Attempt at "Elements")
13.  Vege-Tables (from ragmajesty--oh this is a nice one, with some of the "Vegetables Arguments" mixed into the track)
14.  Look (from Mok, I think)
15.  Holidays (an edit of two different takes I have in my collection--can't recall sources)
16.  Whispering Winds (from Smiley Smile--I brought up the volume considerably)
17.  Windchimes (from ragmajesty)
18.  "Elements Suite" (Spanish Guitar Theme/Water Chant/Bag Of Tricks/Heroes And Villains Intro/Mrs. O'Leary's Cow--edited from various sources)
19.   I Wanna Be Around/Workshop
20.   I Love To Say Dada

PART FOUR (The Great SMiLE Classics)
21.  Cabinessence
22.  Surf's Up (my own edit using Mok and the 1971 single--for the coda--as sources)

PART FIVE (Scraps from the Cutting Room Floor)
23.  You're Welcome
24.  Vege-Tables Edit (from Mok)
25.  Wonderful (combining "Wonderful Insert" with "Rock With Me Henry")
26.  Can't Wait Too Long (from Odeon)
  

Cool mix. I look forward to seing your other one, too.
 

Over the past weekend, I tried to come up with an "LP length" SMiLE mix, and it was frustrating.  I have a theory that's a big part of the reason Brian couldn't finish it in the 60s.  There was too much great stuff for one album.  Capitol was not about to swing for a double album, and I really don't think the idea of expanding it ever occured to Brian.  The CD age is perfect for a work like SMiLE.  What exists in the 2004 completion is something close to three LP sides of fabulous music.  I'm a huge fan of BWPS, and I feel it is quite definitive.

All the same, I love the 60s sessions, and I still listen to them as much as I ever did (along with the BWPS CD, DVD, and the 2/24/04 London boot--I love it all, really).  But to try to boil this all down to a listenable half-hour of music is--at least so far--just beyond me.  I have to give up too much that I love.

So my other SMiLE CD mix is a pretty full CD like the one I just posted.  But the difference is, I went for the most un-doctored SMiLE tracks I could find.  I also include several tracks from post-SMiLE-era BB albums that contain SMiLE material.  Also, I have kept the contents of this CD in the running order of BWPS, with a number of tracks that did not become part of BWPS also included where I think they work best.

So here's the playlist.  I simply call it "REVEREND ROCK'S SMiLE"

1.  Our Prayer (Good Vibrations Box Set)
2.  Heroes and Villains (cantina version--Good Vibrations Box Set)
3.  Heroes and Villains Sections (same source--I cut off "False Barnyard" and faded it, because I've already heard it anyway on the previous track.)
4.  Do You Like Worms (Good Vibrations Box Set--I edited the ending so that it ends with the little trilling keyboard bit, like on BWPS)
5.  Barnyard (Brian's piano demo from Odeon followed by the well-known track with animal sounds, from a Japanese boot I don't know much about)
6.  The Old Master Painter/You Are My Sunshine (mp3 download collection)
7.  Cabinessense (Odeon)
8.  He Gives Speeches (same Japanese SMiLE boot as "Barnyard")
9.  Wonderful (Good Vibrations Box Set)
10.  Look (same Japanese source as "Barnyard")
11.  Child Is Father Of The Man (same source as above)
12.  Child Is Father Of The Man (mp3 download collection--these are two very different sessions)
13.  Surf's Up (Odeon)
14.  I'm In Great Shape (Brian's piano demo from Odeon followed by the very rare piano/saxophone version from one of my boots)
15.  I Wanna Be Around/Workshop (Odeon)
16.  Vege-Tables (Good Vibrations Box Set)
17.  Holidays (Mok's SMiLE)
18.  Windchimes (Mok's SMiLE--used this version because I like the touch of reverb that softens the abrupt tape edit before the big finish--my one concession to something more than "rough originals" in this collection)
19.  Spanish Guitar Theme (mp3 download collection)
20.  Bag of Tricks/Mrs. O'Leary's Cow (Mok's SMiLE)
21.  Water Chant (same Japanese source as above)
22.  I Love To Say Da Da (Good Vibrations Box Set)
23.  Good Vibrations (I call this "Reverend Rock's Extended Version"--it combines the original single mix with some of my favorite sessions material from the Good Vibrations Box Set, along with the faster "hum-de-dum" section from one of my boots, and clocks in at a little over 7 minutes)

"BONUS TRACKS" (The post-SMiLE Hangover Sessions)

24.  Heroes and Villains (stereo remix of single version from Beach Boys Classics album)
25.  Mama Says (from Wild Honey album)
26.  Little Bird (from Friends album--there are snippets of "Child Is The Father Of The Man" on the backing track towards the end)
27.  Cool, Cool Water (from Sunflower album)
28.  Surf's Up (from Surf's Up album)

OK SMiLE mixers...I'm back to report on my latest project.

I decided, after reading in another thread about some master-tape discoveries, that I would finally attempt an LP length SMiLE fan mix.  I established a few criteria to begin with, and after thinking about it a few days, these were the parameters I set for myself.

1.  "Heroes And Villains" must include "I'm In Great Shape", "Barnyard", "The Old Master Painter", and "You Are My Sunshine".

2.  "Good Vibrations" must be a part of the playlist (as I'm sure Capitol Records would have absolutely demanded of any finished '67 version of SMiLE).

3.  The playlist must include every title listed on the back of the SMiLE sleeves that were printed up in '67.

4.  While some tracks would certainly include "modular" segues connecting sections (and some of those tracks would most likely be "medleys" of two or more titles), nevertheless each actual track must be set apart to itself with a band of silence, in keeping with both Van Dyke Parks' and Brian Wilson's known recollections of how the album was planned in '66-'67.  

5.  Most importantly, it all must "flow" well as an album, and clock in at under 40 minutes, with each side coming in at no more than 20 minutes max (all of these timings would be acceptible--if just a little on the  long side--in 1967).

So, here's what I came up with.  I call it:

REVEREND ROCK'S LP-LENGTH VERSION OF "SMiLE '67"

"Side One"

1.  Prayer (or "Intro")

2.  Heroes And Villains (Feb. 67 mix)/I'm In Great Shape/Barnyard/The Old Master Painter/You Are My Sunshine
(with "Heroes And Villains Intro" at the beginning as well as a "reprise" of H&V utilizing the slow vocal tag and "False Barnyard"--included but not listed)

3. Do You Like Worms

4. Cabinessence
(These opening four selections more-or-less constitute an "Americana" suite, if one wants to hear it that way.)

5. He Gives Speeches/Wonderful
(I've always heard these as companion pieces.  "Wonderful" is the Good Vibrations box set version, with a faded ending.  Did a pitch correction on "Speeches" so that the two songs are now in the same key--the melodic/thematic/lyrical connections between these two pieces are astounding.)

"Side Two"

1.  Good Vibrations
(The single--no tricks)

2. Vege-Tables/Child Is Father Of The Man
(I base this "medley" on the fact that takes of both "Vege-Tables" and "Child..." included the "bop bop bop bop, du-du du du-du du" section, so it's conceivable that Brian envisioned them as two parts of the same piece at some point, and I happen to like them together quite a bit.)

3. Windchimes (Air)
(A version from the 60s sessions that includes the instrumental part made famous in BWPS--courtesy of "ragmajesty's SMiLE" fan mix.)

4. The Elements (Water/Earth/Fire)
["Windchimes" has already been snuck into the proceedings to take care of "Air".  The remaining elements are represented as follows:  Water by "Water Chant" (with water sounds added), Earth by "Bag of Tricks" (with farm animal sounds added), and Fire by "Mrs. O'Leary's Cow" (with the sound of crackling flames added)--all of the sound effects courtesy of "ragmajesty's SMiLE" fan mix, yet again.]

5. Surf's Up
(A special version I've concocted using a couple of boot sources and the "Child..." coda from the '71 recording)

It all clocks in at around 38 minutes, and each "side" is of an acceptible length as well.  All in all, it totally passes my test for an enjoyable listening experience that I think would have certainly blown some minds had it been released in '67.

Regrets?  Plenty!  No "Look".  No "Holidays".  No "Da Da".  Not enough "Heroes And Villains Sessions"...but lots of stuff would have to have been sacrificed to make a SMiLE album that could have been released in '67, so I took a true "no mercy" approach.  In spite of everything, this came out really nice, I think.

SOME NOTES ON TRACKING

I thought very much about a satisfying tracking order, because that to me is the most consistant weakness in the SMiLE mixes I've heard.  I felt like there is enough historical evidence that a true "Americana Suite" was planned, so I tried to come up with that to take up most of "Side One".  It made sense to me to follow SMiLE 2004's pattern by breaking up the "Americana Suite" to introduce the "sexual/life-cycle" theme with "He Gives Speeches/Wonderful".  Ending "Side One" with a tender ballad was something I thought would be really nice as well.  "Good Vibrations" kicking off "Side Two" is something there is very strong historical precedent for (since that's exactly what happens on Smiley Smile), and it also continues the "sexual/life-cycle" theme.

While many would question putting "Vege-Tables" into the middle of all this "sexual/life-cycle" stuff, I still contend that it was something Brian must have strongly considered doing, based on the aforementioned "bop bop" link that might have connected "Vege-Tables" to "Child Is Father Of The Man".  Since food is essential to life, there is also a clear lyrical/thematic connection that can be drawn.

Ending "The Elements" with Fire is something that not everyone would agree with, but to me it is just so very effective to have the Fire music be the last thing one hears before a song which features the phrase "collumnated ruins domino"!

I have always believed that any 1967 release of SMiLE would have ended with "Surf's Up".  It's just too much of a show-stopper to work anywhere else, in my opinion.  The thing that was hardest for me to accept about SMiLE 2004 was having "Surf's Up" in the middle--but I'm fine with it at this point.  

Reverend Rock, I dig your scientific approach. You have come to some similar conclusions as I have. I am always on the fence about whether to include Look and Holidays in the mix because of lack of evidence for their inclusion. (Look did have a vocal session, so I really am on the fence on that one). I think you were right to keep Da Da off the mix, since it is pretty removed from the original Smile concept. I have moved away from the 3 movement concept. I have come to believe that all the songs belong to the same cloth. Surf's Up is the corner stone of all of it, since it links in with the childhood theme while also drawing the Americana theme to a conclusion, and arguably links with the Elements theme as well. The middle movement of the 2004 Smile bothers me, because Surf's Up is so much more than just a song linked with Wonderful. So I have been spreading the three "movement/concepts" over the whole 2 sided LP. I've shaved it down to about an hour, but it could easily be cut back more to fit on a 1967 era LP. I can't help sharing my own most recent version.

Side 1:
1. Prayer/You're Welcome (I fade up You're Welcome after Prayer ends. I put some of the crazy tape echo laughter from the Smile skits over the top of You're Welcome)

2. Heroes & Villains (This is always in flux, especially with all the new info on the board. My current one is 7:51 and works both the cantina version and the 45 single version into the song. I don't know if I will ever settle on a mix of H&V,)

3. Wonderful (enter the childhood theme. I use the Smiley Smile version as a guide for editing the box set version, splicing in the H&V/Bicycle Rider theme after the 2nd verse, then ending with a bit of the "Rock With Me Henry" version. I see Wonderful as being about childhood, lost innocence and a metaphor for America at the same time--looking forward towards Surf's Up)

4. Do You Like Worms (Bicycle Rider theme is back, as is the history theme)

5. I'm In Great Shape/Barnyard/Old Master Painter (These three go together really well. I'm In Great Shape has the sax part and You Are My Sunshine ends with the sax part. Also, the Sunshine sax part fits perfectly over the top of some of the outtakes for False Barnyard theme, which sounds a lot like Barnyard.  So they all blend well. As an added bonus, I took the snippet of Mike singing Old Master Painter in between takes on a Pet Sounds session and blended it in over the Old Master Painter music at the right moment--works really well)

6. Vega-Tables (This ends side one.  My version is 10 minutes and I really took liberties since there is so much material to work with. I start with the Cornucopia version, blend it into the box set version with some extra laughter over the top, and into some of the Vegie chants.  I also put a little Child is Father of the Man in there, because there seems to be a bit of evidence that the piano/vox version of Child was in Vegetables for a moment.

Side 2:
1. Good Vibrations (Always seems like a good side 2 starter, and there is a good chance it would have been. At the end of GV I fade up a little of Look, which seems to be the cousin of GV and was recorded at the same time)

2. Child Is Father Of The Man (I use the structure of the 2004 Smile as a guide, and I use the 2004 verses to make it more of a listenable song and not a fragment)

3. Cabin Essence (Americana theme returns. One of the big moments of Smile. It stands alone)

4. Wind Chimes (I have Wind Chimes leading into the Elements but not a part of it. I have begun to think that the key to understanding the Elements is the Fire recordings and "I Wanna Be Around/Friday Night" which apparently was meant to follow fire. I think the Elements would have been a stand alone instrumental piece.)

5. The Elements (Right now it is 10 minutes. I open with Fire because the tape sessions call it "The Elements part 1". I don't use the "fire intro" because I think evidence shows that this was recorded for H&V and was recorded after Fire was scrapped. Including the intro on the front of Fire seems to be a David Leaf invention. But I do use the chimes version of the intro, so I am kind of having it both ways. After Mrs. O'Leary's Cow I go into I Wanna Be Around/Friday Night, which is the rebuilding after the fire. Then I go into the earth section, which I have grafted about of the "row, row, row" backing track to the Vegetables version of Do A Lot, then I throw in some Fall Breaks with the Swedish Frog chant over the top, then bird noises, and into the "bird" version of Da Da ((yes I know I said Da Da wasn't part of Smile, but the Elements has lots of gaps and unknowns)). Then I throw in some wind chimes to echo back to the song wind chimes, and then I have lots of recordings of wind, which I have laid over the spooky moaning horn experiments on the George Fell into His French Horn recordings, after this I go into water, which is made out of the end section section of Holidays with lots of water sounds laid on top--which is what Brian may have been planning when he had all those water recordings made. I use the Smile era water recordings of the hose with echo that is on that one boot, along with a bunch of other water noises put through the tape delay effect.

6. Surf's Up (This ends it all by tying it all back together--the wave of the water from the end of The Elements leads into the song, and then the lyrics tie together all the threads of the album very well. I end, as Vosse suggested in 1969, with a snippet from Prayer to close things out.)

I did a mix a while back with the challenge (self imposed) that I had to stick to the infamous list given to Capitol and that I could shuffle within sides (i.e first 6 songs, second 6 songs), but could not take a track from one grouping of 6 and put it in the other (and vice versa).   It came out pretty workable from my point of view, though surely blasphemous to some I would suppose.  :-D

Surf's Up (man at the opera, etc.)
Do You Like Worms (the "trip" begins)
Heroes And Villains
Cabin Essence
Wind Chimes
Good Vibrations

Wonderful
I'm In Great Shape
Vega-Tables
The Elements
The Old Master Painter
Child Is Father Of The Man (the "trip" resolves with this meditation)

To Song of the Grange--

I like a lot of your ideas as well, such as putting "I Wanna Be Around/Workshop" at the end of "Elements" and closing with a reprise of "Prayer".  I'm tempted to try them, but really, I think I'm through "smiling around" for awhile at this point.  I am finding this LP-length mix I've done a total joy to listen to, actually.

I think it's interesting that people have tracking problems with SMiLE 2004.  In my readings of SMiLE lore over the years, the one thing that seems to be consistant is that Brian could never settle on the song order because the material presented so many possibilities that were equally appealing.  Having produced a number of custom albums myself over the years, I know exactly how that can be.

For myself, over the years, I had decided (as if my opinion mattered) that certain SMiLE tracks were indispensible, and found it very frustrating that those tracks simply couldn't fit together on a conventional mid 60s LP format.   When I read that Brian had completed a performing version of SMiLE (no one knew for sure that there'd be a recording just yet), I was very apprehensive about the track order.  But once I learned how it was done, I was delighted.  Everything I considered indispensible was there, with only the exception of "He Gives Speeches" (which, since it exists on Smiley Smile as "She's Goin' Bald", really didn't bother me with its absence).  

Since Brian never was able to resolve the tracking delimma in the 60s, I've always felt that we can accept the 2004 tracking order as definitive.  For me, this is doubly true seeing that Van Dyke Parks and Brian Wilson both "own" that tracking order.   You really can't get more authoritative than that, in my opinion.  

So my search for a passable "SMiLE '67" is not born out of any sense of disappointment with SMiLE 2004.  I am just about as happy as I could be with it.  I love it immensely.

By the way, I've revised my above notes a good bit, and you might find some of my additional commentary interesting.

I like your fun version of the elements! Although I've pretty much left "fire" and the 'water chant" as is, just for fun, I've liked following those with the "earthy" Swedish frog vocals on top of "vegetables fade", which kind of has the same drone as the water chant, then ending with the whispering winds tag for the air section.

My Smile mix goes like this:


SIDE ONE:

Your Welcome
Heroes and Villains Part One
Do You Like Worms?
Surf's Up
I'm In Great Shape/Barnyard/Old Master Painter/You Are My Sunshine
With Me Tonight/Do A Lot
Heroes and Villains Part Two
Wonderful
Look
Cabin Essence
Holidays


SIDE TWO:

Our Prayer
Good Vibrations
The Elements Part One (Fire)
The Elements Part Two (Earth)
The Elements Part Three (Wind)
The Elements Part Four (Water)
Diamond Head
He Gives Speeches
Child is Father of the Man
Love To Say Da Da
Can't Wait Too Long


I know that Diamond Head is not part of Smile, but it fits so well and wasn't Smile supposed to be partly a journey from Plymouth Rock to Diamond Head?  I've never been sure about Can't Wait Too Long, but again, it fits very well.  I'm not really going for purity here, what I can gather is that Smile was and is fluid.

H&V part one is the alternative version from the Wild Honey twofer (the Cantina version).  H&V part two is my own mix using the oh gee, a few of the heroes and villains sections (the acapella one and one of the more upbeat ones) along with the bicycle rider theme (the instrumental version, not the section from Do You Like Worms) and H&V chorus, ending the same was as the 2004 H&V, though at the end of prelude to fade is the solo trombone H&V riff.  Surf's Up uses the purple chick mix as the basis, though I added Carl's harmony line for 'canvas the town and brush the backdrop' from the album version (there's a vocal only mix doing the rounds) and the full harmonies for the domino part of columnated ruins.  I'm in Great Shape, I synched the piano demo to the Smile backing track, same with Barnyard.  With me Tonight/Do A Lot use the Smile recordings of these songs, and Do A Lot is taken from the Heroes and Villains sessions, not the one recorded for Vegetables.  I also use an early take of the Fire intro (similar to Bag of tricks) in this section.  The elements is pretty much straight, though I do use the Vegetables radio promo (You can't have these vegetables, I spent a lot of time on the weekend growing these) to start the earth section.  Child is Father of the Man uses several takes edited together.

It's very hard to describe the various sections, the main point to this mix was to try and create a narrative to flow through the entire piece, the most obvious one being the idea of a bicycle rider going from Plymouth Rock to Diamond Head.  Each song or section is part of the journey, which is why Surf's Up is soon in the mix.  I've always felt Surf's Up was about an old decadent East Coast city, which seemed the perfect starting place for the journey.  Also, I spent a lot of time checking tempos and keys of the various sections, looking for clues as to how they fit together.  Our Prayer for example has never seemed like it was supposed to be followed by H&V, whereas Your Welcome is in exactly the same key.  Our Prayer seems to work the best in front of Good Vibrations (being major/minor of the same key).  Nearly all sections run into each other or cross fade between, giving each 'side' a seamless run.

Of course, I feel bound to say this is all hypothetical and what I would do if I had a stack of Smile bootlegs of course ;)

I made a Smile mix I was happy with for a long time but with the new official release I feel like making some more Smile compilations. I want to make one lengthy one (Smile as a double album) and one concise one (Smile as a 1966 30 to 45 minute long album) and I was wondering what bootlegs could I find the "Feel the acid" soundbite on.

It's from the Prayer session

EDIT:

Does anyone else prefer the 'throw it to the wall and see what sticks' approach to mix making? Just made a somewhat barmy sequence out of Project Smile chunks which goes....

1. Smile Promo (faded in, so it starts at 'Smile is the name...')
2. Prayer session excerpts (Just 'This is the intro/then Carl going 'Brian, direct ok?' and then a deep breath)
3. Prayer
4. The Cantina (A nice little overture of Western themes, sounds real pretty coming from Prayer, and Mike gets the first lead on Smile!)
5. Gee (Standard)
6. Western Theme, with the caveat that instead of the regular trombone at the end, I went for the one with strings.
7. Heroes & Villains, going off the Humble Harv demo - So we have the verse and acapella break (Alternate versions), then I'm In Great Shape, the tape explosion going into Barnyard (Both Purple Chick, cos of vocals), YOU'RE UNDER ARREST, La-la verse, then a tape-whirr to for My Children Were Raised, at 3 score and 5, Soul Made Beautiful, then the arrangement they use at the start of the False Barnyard session, because I prefer it, and fade.....

And i should really go to bed now  ::)

Thanks for giving me the track title to look for. I've been wanting to sample that line for a few years now. Using Audacity to amplify certain parts to make them more audible and shifting around bits of dialogue I now have this 17 second bit that I'll use to start my longer 2011 mix of Smile;

"This could be considered a track."
"Not really, we don't wanna do that."
"But it's beautifu-"
"This is a little intro y'know...to the album."
"You're gonna get the one shot at it."
"The door's okay."
"You want all of us, now?"
"Get balance on the sound."
"You guys feeling the Acid yet?"
"I feel great!"
"Let's go."

And then into the 20/20 version of Our Prayer.

One minor thing: I'm pretty sure Brian asks "you guys feeling the HASH yet?" You think Brian is going to offer Al Jardine acid before recording a vocal? Not even John Lennon would take acid before recording music. OK, he did once, and you start really hearing it about halfway through "What's the New Mary Jane".

Then again, looking at this picture on the cover of 20/20... maybe Al DID take the brown acid.

That's a different part on the same session tape where Brian says he knows someone still has some more Hash. I'd heard that part before on the Worst of the Beach Boys boot but until the other day I'd only read about "Feel the acid" and never heard it for myself.

So I've made myself the two new Smiles now and they're both getting a lot of plays. The short Smile is very basic;

Our Prayer (Good Vibrations box set)/ Heroes and Villains (5 minute blend of single and 'Cantina' versions)/ The Old Master Painter ('88 Linnet tapes)/ Child is Father of the Man ('88 Linnet tapes)/ Wonderful (GV box)/ Do You Like Worms (Sr101 remix)/ Cabinessence (20/20)/ The Elements (Warnakey and Wright edit)/ Vegetables (Wright)/ Windchimes (Wright)/ Look ('88 Linnet tapes)/ Good Vibrations (2008 stereo remix)/ Surf's Up ('66 vocal and instrumental tracks only.)

The new extended Smile I take would take longer to dissect but the inspiration
came from some of the posts on this thread and then listening to
DJ Mic Luv's version of Smile and the single version of Heroes of Villains.
I used the same whiplash style of editing between different sections of
music and sometimes using bits from the Psychedelic Smile tapes.

On this one the long version Heroes and Villains is nearly 8 minutes and uses some of the
Sections segments too. I colored outside the lines a little and did stuff
like make a version of Water that uses the first half of Diamond Head and
then halfway in turns into Love to Say DaDa. I also grafted a short segment
from Little Pad onto the end of Worms. My new edit of Barnyard/ Great Shape
ends up sounding like something off of one of Zappa's '68 - '69 albums. On my older
long Smile playlist I had Great Shape from Hawthorne with music underneath, then a tape
explosion, Barnyard with just Brian's vocals and piano and then crossfading into the
backing track. I got a Beatles Good Morning effect by Brian's "Let's hear the animals" and animal
sounds bits blending seamlessly with the animal sounds on the backing track.

For my new version I use Great Shape with an echo effect from the Mic Luv version,
a couple of snippets from thePsych Smile tapes, Barnyard from Purple Chick Smile, a quick
snippet of George Fell... then end with the fade out with just Brian on Piano with his "Let's hear the
animals" bit. I also made a medley out of Look and Tones that I labled Look (Sea of Tones,) heh.
The only bit from BWPS I used is on Cabinessence. I used the Purple Chick version of
Cabinessence that creates a fake proper ending to the 20/20 mix. I put Can't Wait Too Long in on the long version and concluded with a 6 minute Surf's Up. It starts with Van Dyke taking about piano rolls then the majority of Surf's Up from Odeon Smile but
using the Surf's Up album version for the outro.

One segue that I find I keep going back to is the 'melting' cello at the end of Painter segueing with Child is of Father of the Man. I find the musicbox-eque ending of Worms goes well with the '66 version of Wonderful too and that Look works nicely as an overture to Good Vibrations.

That sounds v interesting!

I'm working on something which keeps the batshit insane qualities of other Smiles I've heard whilst trying to reconcile it into something that would have been actually released. I have a side 1, with the rough tracklisting of (from my earlier post),

That's what I was aiming for with my long Smile too, I used some of Dj Mic Luv's concepts but put into a more straightforward tracklisting.

Another thing I did on the new long version of Smile I made was use the short 'mama mama mama mama' chant as a transition from the first Americana section into the second Elements section.

The only thing I have really messed with, in relation to SMiLE mixing, is the element suite. I have made mixes before, but have never really edited a full album together.

I found that the outro drums on 'Fire' match near perfectly to the first hammer hits in 'Workshop' - I overlaid workshop in the last two seconds of PurpleChick's 'Mrs. O Leary's Cow' and the clink clink clink of the hammer matches perfectly with the drums going bum bum bum. Thus, I put workshop directly after 'Fire' and it fit wonderfully....almost as if that is what Brian had intended - probably not, but it does match up quite well.

Here's my mix.

1. Untitled Instrumental [Spanish Guitar Piece] (Secret SMiLE Disc 2)
2. Heroes & Villians (Hawthorne)
3. Holidays (Odeon)
4. Heroes & Villians [Intro] (GV Box - Actually Fire Intro)
5. Do You Like Worms (Odeon)
6. Cabinessence (Extended Intro added* GV Box)
7. Heroes & Villians [Sections] (GV Box)
8. Prayer (GV Box)
9. Wonderful (Extended Intro added* Vigotone) (GV Box)
10. Child Is The Father Of The Man (Jazzy Part inserted at the start* Odeon)
11. Look (Odeon)
12. VegaTables (Hawthorne)
13. Wind Chimes (Extended Intro added* Secret SMiLE Disc 1) (GV Box)
14. Elements Part 1 [Fire] (Secret SMiLE Disc 2)
15. Waterchant (Odeon Cut from Cool, Cool, Water)
16. I Love To Say Da Da (Odeon)
17. Surfs Up [Instrumental + Demo] (Odeon)

*I didn't like how some of the songs started vocals straight away, with no musical introduction. I really enjoy the instrumental versions of the songs songs too, so I decided to often edit in the instrumental version (or part) of the song first.

New year... new mix

Our Prayer
Good Vibrations/Gee
Heroes & Villains
You're Welcome
Do You Like Worms?
Barnyard
The Old Master Painter
You Are My Sunshine
Cabinessence
Holidays
Windchimes
Mrs. O Leary's Cow
I Love To Say Dada
I Wanna Be Around/Friday Night
Vegetables
Wonderful
Surf's Up

Protip - Using Look as an 'Overture' to Good Vibrations is good. Using the 'Twelfth Street Rag' part to link them together is priceless  ;D

I want to listen to this.

I guess it's time to dust off my most current SMiLE mix, now that it promises to become obsolete soon (knock on wood)...

I call it the "kitchen sink" SMiLE because I just went absolutely nuts with it. I threw EVERYTHING into the pot, historical accuracy be damned.

My full tracklist goes like this (all tracks flow together, by the way, and it was difficult naming and indexing the tracks as a result):

Disc One
1. Our Prayer
2. Heroes And Villains Part 1
3. Heroes And Villains Part 2
4. Barnyard Suite
5. The Old Master Painter
6. Child Is Father Of The Man
7. Soul Made Beautiful
8. Wonderful
9. Good Vibrations Overture
10. Good Vibrations
11. Holidays
12. Cabin Essence

Disc Two
1. Well, You're Welcome
2. I'm In Great Shape
3. My Vega-Tables
4. The Hazards Of Smog
5. Wind Chimes
6. Mrs. O'Leary's Cow
7. Rebuilding After The Fire
8. Water Chant
9. I Love To Say Da Da
10. Roll Plymouth Rock
11. Diamond Head
12. Surf's Up

And yet another:

(prayer)
Surf's Up
Do You Like Worms
Wonderful
Good Vibrations
The Old Master Painter
Child Is Father Of The man

Cabin Essence
Wind Chimes
The Elements
Vega-Tables
I'm In Great Shape
Heroes And Villains

Heroes and Villains --

Strangely (or not) I've just done an 8:27 mix of H&V which sounds very much like yours

Its uses BWPS and is:

Gee>H&V up until the end of the chorus section after the acapella part around 5:04 (including Gee)

Then into I'm in Great Shape (up to flutter part which is faded into Barnyard

Then into OMP/YAMS before revisiting H&V at the aaah aaah aaaah vocal part which goes up the scale and into final C&W theme part with the clip clops (before the added strings from BWPS come in)

The end is a bit unsatisfying at the mo but I love it

Hi all,

First post an all :-) So hope I don't embarrass myself by saying, I'm currently on a MONO trip, so I'm working on a "SMiLE mono reduction" using best of Mok and Purplechick mixes. Funny how the BWPS bits of purplechick blend so much nicer in mono :-)

J xxx

This is my first mix. I've been working with it for about a month, still not done but I'm almost there.

side one

1. Heroes And Villains (prayer/cantina/bicycle rider)
2. I'm In Great Shape (piano demo/instrumental)
3. Barnyard (with piano demo vocals)
4. Do You Like Worms? (+ bicycle rider theme)
5. Heroes And Villains Part 2 (gee/chants/all day/bag of tricks/he gives speeches)
6. The Old Master Painter/My Only Sunshine
7. Cabinessence
8. Wonderful
9. Child Is Father Of The Man

side two

1. Good Vibrations (early version)
2. Vega-Tables
3. Holidays
4. Wind Chimes (+ been way too long/cool ending)
5. The Elements (fire/workshop/air/water chant)
6. Love To Say Da Da
7. Look
8. Surf's Up


air=wind chimes piano part

I know Been Way Too Long wasn't recorded in the Smile-era but I love it so much and it fits really good with Wind Chimes. I'm not sure how to incorporate With Me Tonight and You're Welcome but I think I'll find some way.

Your welcome segues into wind chimes nicely :-)

Updated my mix if anyone cares  ;D :

1. Heroes And Villains (prayer/h&v/cantina)
2. Barnyard Suite (alt. h&v intro/i'm in great shape piano demo + instrumental/barnyard with demo vocals/old master painter/your only sunshine)
3. Do You Like Worms (+ bicycle rider)
4. Gee (+ h&v chants/h&v intro/all day)
5. He Gives Speeches
6. Cabinessence
7. Wonderful
8. Child Is Father of the Man

9. Good Vibrations (early version)
10. Vega-Tables (with me tonight/vega-tables '66 version)
11. Wind Chimes (alternate take + vocals)
12. The Elements (fire - mrs. o'leary's cow/earth - friday night/air - holidays/water - water chant + love to say da da)
13. Look (+ you're welcome)
14. Surf's Up (brian vocals)


It's still too long though...

Btw, what's up with having Prayer as a seperate song? I remember hearing a prayer session that went something like this:

Al: Ah, this is really good. This could be a track on the album
Brian: Nah, we don't wanna do that. This is just an intro to the album

I've always liked the Cantina version of H&V sequenced before Cabinessence... An awesome 1-2-3 punch to kick off a record.

Oh man! "H&V Intro" in "Barnyard Suite" is brilliant. Feels like a "duh" moment for me.

Just overdubbed the two in garageband....fits perfectly and sounds surprisingly awesome.

So here's the mix I'm planning to put together. It's not a traditional mix, but I think it's going to work really well. My main goal was to have it make sense/feel complete/feel like the modular symphony that it was meant to be.

(Prayer)

1. Good Vibrations

2. Wind Chimes [based on Vosse's description]
- GV Box version: up to the end of the verses
- Meant for You: just the vocal tag that fades out
- GV Box version: the chorus through the end

3. Vega-Tables
- GV Box: up until "Mom and dad say ..."
- GV Box: "Do A Lot" chant - the fuller one at the end
- GV Box: back in where the first "Do A Lot" ends "da-da-da" through "I burst into laughter"
- Demo: "Tripped on a cornucopia"
- GV Box: "Bop-bop-bop-bop Doo-doo..." through "the name of your, your favorite vega-table"
- Vega-tables Tag

4. Home on the Range
- Old Master Painter
- You Were My Sunshine (w/ vocals)
- Cabbinessence: "Home on the Range" (verse 1)
- "With Me Tonight" (slow version)
- Cabinessence: "Home on the Range" (verse 2
- "With Me Tonight" (fast version) - Fade out

5. The Iron Horse
- Do You Like Worms: "Bicycle Rider ... to the Church of the American Indian"
- "Woo Woo" from before "Under Arrest" on "Heroes & Villains"
- Cabinessence: "Who Ran the Iron Horse" 1st Chorus
- Do You Like Worms: "Ribbon of concrete ... to the Church of the American Indian"
- Cabinessence: Who Ran the Iron Horse (truck driving man) through the end including Grand Coolie and Over and Over

6. Barnyard
- "Soul Made Beautiful"
- I'm in Great Shape
- Barnyard
- Holidays (One verse & "Whisperin"-style outro)

7. Wonderful
- GV Box: The first verse through first "one,one wonderful" and the first piano bridge
- "He Gives Speeches": through "led him to discover"
- GV Box: "She knew how ... boy bumped into her one, one wonderful" and second piano bridge
- "He Gives Speeches": "Silken hair ... shadowed on the ceiling"
- GV Box: "All fall down ... and thank god for one, one wonderful"
- I Wanna Be Around/Wood Shop

8. Heroes & Villains
"Pt. 1"
- Cantina version: through the "doo doo" scat, stopping before the cantina section
- GV Box, Heroes & Villains Sections: Gee/How I Love My Girl/"Doo Doo Doo Heroes & Villains" chorus (medium speed)
- Cantina version: Cantina section through "You're under arrest"
- GV Box, Heroes & Villains Sections: "Doo Doo Doo Heroes & Villains" chorus (slow speed)
- Cantina vesion: Tape Explosion
"Pt. 2"
- GV Box, Heroes & Villains Intro
- Cantina version: "My children were raised ... still got the jive to survive with the heroes and villains"
- Single version: "La la la la ... and it's all an affair of my life with the heroes and villains"
- "Flutter Tone"
- Single version: "I've been in this town ... I'm all right by the heroes and --"
- GV Box, Heroes & Villains Sections: "Doo Doo Doo Heroes & Villains" chorus (fast speed)
- "Country Western Theme" aka "Prelude to Fade"
- "Bridge to Indians"
- "Barnshine"

9. Do You Like Worms?
- Welcome
- GV Box [with "Bicycle Rider" sections excised] fading out on "Hawaiian Chant"

10. Elements
- Fire with SFX
- Sunflower Cool, Cool Water: "Water Chant"
- Air Dada

11. Child is the Father of the Man
- with R&B sounding version as the tag

12. Surf's Up
- Brian's solo demo

(Prayer)

Here's the thinking behind the choices:

Prayer: Up top and at the end because there are quotes from people saying both, and on BWPS it's on both, and who's ever had too much of it?

Good Vibrations: I think it's best to get it out early and move on. Plus, you've already peaked interest with Prayer so you know something big is in store.

Wind Chimes: I think this does the best job of making you smile early on, the surprise of the chorus is just so fun and let's you know how much of a treat you're in for.

Vega-Tables: Keeping the smiling going. And in my mind it celebrates healthy living, with drugs as a part of that. To me the whole song sounds a bit like a retort to Murray Wilson. After all there's this from Nolan's California Saga article:

Nolan: What did you think when you read Brian had experimented with LSD?
Murray Wilson: I said, 'You know, Brian, one thing God gives you is a brain, if you play with it and destroy it, you're dead, you're a vegetable.''

It's not hard for me to imagine, Murray calling Brian's friends a bunch of vegetables, and then Brian and Van writing a song to say, yeah we're vegetables, and we LOVE vegetables.

Home on the Range: I opted to split up "Cabinessence". As good as they SOUND together, they don't make too much SENSE together and there's evidence that at one point they were their own songs. As a song for Dennis to sing as "funky cat up in the mountains singing", it made sense to combine it with OMP/YAMS as Old Master Painter's lyrics start "The old master painter from the far away hills" and Dennis sings YAMS. I threw "With Me Tonight" in because it needs a big chorus and it fits the theme. Story wise, this is where the "Smile journey" starts. A guy singing to his girl promising all that America has to offer.

The Iron Horse: A meditation on traveling across the country and in a way "tripping".

Barnyard: Getting to the home on the range and having fun. "Holidays" is in here as the "chicken ballet".

Wonderful: Incorporated "He gives speeches". They're just too similar lyrically to separate, and without it, Wonderful is a weirdly simplistic, albeit beautiful, song in an otherwise breathtakingly complicated album that was too be a modular symphony. I know some people don't like He Gives Speeches, I do. "I Wanna Be Around/Workshop" seems like a fitting tag to this story of young love, though it's probably the piece I'm most up in the air about.

Heroes & Villains: I'm a believer of the two part single. I prefer not to use the Smiley Version chorus, especially since there's already plenty of chorus's to play with.

Do You Like Worms: As a journey, this is the capper. We've just left the Old West town, hence throwing "Welcome" in up top and has the Indians behind them as they head to the Sandwich Isles/Hawaii. I don't really understand how it can be a kick off to the "journey".

Elements:  Fire, Water, Air. The end of the American Journey theme and entry into something more spiritual and metaphysical.

Child is the Father of the Man: I imagine that this was kind of a reworking of Look (the only substantial piece I think I left off).

Surf's Up: After all the complexity there's something really great about Brian's solo version at the end.

At the moment...


Side One:
Our Prayer
      (GV box with or without Gee, depending on my mood)
Heroes And Villains
      (trombone riff/cantina version thru tape explosion/single from first chorus/ending ala BWPS)
Do You Like Worms
      (with Bicycle Rider choruses & BWPS verses)
Barnyard (Suite)
      (Barnyard/TOMP/YAMS/Barnshine fade)
Cabin Essence
      (20/20)
Wonderful
      (GV Box)
Child Is Father Of The Man
      (3 minute edit with chorus vocals)

Side One:
You're Welcome
      (or not, depending on my mood)
Good Vibrations
      (single)
I'm In Great Shape
      (IIGS [Humble Harv w/ fx/'66 tack/BWPS]/IWBA[BWPS]/Workshop['66 track])
Vega-Tables
      (Purple Chick)
Wind Chimes
      (GV box...usually)
The Elements*
      ("H&V Intro"/Fire/Fall Breaks/All Day/Dada/Water Chant - 2 themes, 4 elements)
Surf's Up
      (Anne Wallace, of course - Child chorus closes out each side)

*Alternate Elements
      ("H&V Intro"/Fire/Cornicopia Vega-Tables/Wind Chimes TAG/Water Chant)

Hello,

I've not finished my own SMiLE mix, but as far as it goes, this would be something like:

Side A:

Americana Suite
- Our Prayer/Gee
- Heroes & Villains (incl. The Barnyard suite which consists in: BWPS H&V version up to "lamb bee dooo bee doowaahhh" then I'm In Great Shape/Cantina section/Barnyard/Swedish Frog/ then we come back to "my children were raised, etc" ending ala BWPS).
- Do You Like Worms (a very different construction of the song).
- The Old Master Painter/ You Are My Sunshine (but I consider to remove these two).
- Cabinessence.

The Elements
- Intro (=Fire or H&V intro)
- Vegetables
- Water Chant
- Wind Chimes
- Fire

Side B:

Adult/Child
- Surf's Up
- Holidays (you should hear own "whispering winds" segues with wonderful, and after all, aren't holidays very important childhood moments ? I never understood why "Holidays" was part of The Elements)
- Wonderful
- Look
- Child Is Father Of The Man
- Love To Say Dada/Prayer reprise (ala BWPS)
- Good Vibrations

- "Gee" by The Crows/Jan & Dean
- "El Paso" by Marty Robbins
- "Peace In The Valley" by The Patuxent Partners
- "Roll Columbia Roll (Gran Coulee Dam)" by Woody Guthrie
- "Old Mc Donald" various versions
- "Barnyard Blues" by Original Dixieland Jazz Band
- "The Old Master Painter" by Dick Haymes
- "You Are My Sunshine" by Jimmie Davis
- "Waiting for a train" by Jimmie Rodgers
- "I've been working on the railroad" by The Tinseltown Players
- "Home on the range" by Gene Autry/Roy Rodgers
- "Frere Jacques/Brother John" by Fred Koch
- "Long Ago Tomorrow" by Burt Bacharach
- "I Wanna Be Around" by Julie London
- "In Old Chicago" (the story of Mrs O Leary's Cow) 1937 MOVIE by Henry King *
- "Cool Water" by The Sons Of The Pioneers
- "Blue Hawaii" by Henri Mancini/Elvis Presley
- "Ukulele Lady" by Duke Kamoku
- "The Pirates Of Penzance: I'm A Pirate King" by D'Oyly Carte Opera Company And Orchestra
- "Long Long Ago" by Jerry Gray And His Orchestra/Ellen & John Wright

* During the scene of the great fire, you can hear bells and whistles, really close to "Fire intro"!

Say, you aren't the same Big Grin who made a Smile mix/outtakes compilation a few years back, right? That's one of my favourites!

I am the same, the one and only. I just haven't been on the board for longtime. And yes, I agree with you, this one of my favorites SMiLE mix I made! ;D
based on songs who have had a great influence on Brian and Van Dyke to create SMiLE in 66. Each fans of SMiLE should try this mix! believe me!  ;)

There you have it folks, a wholly unbiased and impartial viewpoint  :lol

lp side 1 (run time should not exceed 20m a side)

(prayer)
h&v fanfare
h&v beginning 2 verses/dit dit dit scat
bicycle rider piano w/ vox
do you dig worms 2 rock...roll overs
h&v indian chant
the old master painter/sunshine
h&v peace in the valley
bicycle rider theme
h&v sunny down snuff (been in this town so long)
barnyard
h&v vocal oohooh slowing down train
cabinessence
h&v in the cantina
youre under arrest
h&v fire intro
he gives speeches
h&v my children were raised
h&v three score and five
with me tonight
wonderful
bicycle rider harpsichord theme

--------------------------

lp side 2 (split into two sections)

gee/look
good vibrations
im in great shape
vega-tables
sleepalot
child is the father of the man edit
wind chimes
surfs up

--------------------------

the elements
 ~ swedish frog
 ~ mrs olearys cow
 ~ water chant
 ~ whispering winds coda
well you're welcome

FUN³,
That looks like a really interesting Side 1. Curious what you were aiming for with it.

it would have looked like this on the tracklist   :ohyeah

heroes and villains
do you dig worms
the old master painter
cabinessence
wonderful

good vibrations
im in great shape
vega-tables
child is the father of the man
wind chimes
surfs up
the elements

an attempt at arranging the sections into a linear flowing cinematic bricolage i guess. i like the idea of link tracks. im sure its been done better by others however.

haters gonna hate

Fun3, that's a very interesting tracklist.

This is my updated version. Very pleased with this actually.


1. Do You Like Worms 4:37
Prayer/Worms (with some cool background vocals I found on a bootleg)
2. I'm In Great Shape 6:01
H&V intro/Great Shape Piano Demo/Great Shape instrumental take 3 (?)/Barnyard (cleaned up with demo vocals)/Old master painter/My only sunshine/He gives speeches/Speeches instrumental/H&V outro thing
3. Heroes And Villains 5:46
H&V usual stuff + cantina/Bicycle rider theme/bicycle rider chorus (more focus on the amazing fuzz bass here)
4. With Me Tonight 3:51
Gee/how I love my girl/Swedish frog/various h&v chants/With me tonight fast version
5. Cabinessence 4:14
Starts with instrumental verse, because it's beautiful
6. Wonderful 2:03
Extended last chorus, removed the irritating bass vocal in the end (like in bwps)
7. Child is father of the Man 3:34
Starts off with some piano playing by Brian I found listening to the sessions (pretty low volume)/cool jazzy part/usual stuff/creepy piano part/instrumental chorus
8. Good Vibrations 4:19
Early version, cause I love Brian's vocals and the lyrics/cool ending :P
9. Vega-Tables 3:37
early piano version with Brian vocals/Do-a-lot/usual second verse/Brian's piano playing with surprising end/tag-to-vega-tables
10. Wind Chimes 3:09
usual first verse/second verse is take 5 with vocals (this was pretty hard to get right, but sounds awesome!)/take 5 chorus with vocals/then take 5 throughout the song
11. The Elements 6:40
Fire with background fire/Earth - Friday Night and Workshop/Air - Holidays with eerie wind as intro/Water - water chant with background water
12. I Love To Say Da Da 1:32
13. Look 1:56
14. Surf's Up 3:39
from the sessions with demo vocals

Now what I REALLY want to see is Andrew G. Doe's SMiLE mix!!!  ;D ;D ;D