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bsten
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How much has leaked?
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April 07, 2011, 11:40:01 AM »
Of the Smile sessions - how much would you say has leaked (bootlegs etc)? 10%? 25%? 50%? 75%?
And the same for unreleased material by the BB/BW - how much would you say has leaked?
/Just curious
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I'd say 96%
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Smile sessions = 25%
Everything else = 55%
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April 07, 2011, 11:51:45 AM »
Actually it's all leaked, and no, I'm not sharing.
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I'd say most of it is out there. I think we would have heard by now if someone has heard any more fragments. Unless some surprises (i.e. Durrie Parks acetates) have surfaced recently and are being withheld for the new release. I just think we've heard about 95% of it already. Looking forward to hearing it in the best quality sound possible, without compromising the integrity of the original recordings. I trust Mark Linnett will give that to us.
I remember that for years the "Cantina" and "Three Score and Five" segments were rumored to exist. Also rumored for years that there was a 12 minute version of "Heroes & Villains". And an alternate "Wonderful". Same with "Hang On To Your Ego". Then they eventually came out. Well...........I think we've heard 12 minutes worth of "Heroes", don't you think? You can never say never that more isn't out there. If more did exist, it was thrown out at Columbia during their tape cleaning in '69 or was absconded by Bruce or others with access to the Capitol vaults.
I just want to hear the vocal sessions for Good Vibrations. Unfortunately, I don't think I ever will during my lifetime.....
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Quote from: The Real Beach Boy on April 07, 2011, 11:49:06 AM
Smile sessions = 25%
Everything else = 55%
75% of SMiLE sessions remain in the dark? Using
nightvision
, how much of that is not just studio farting-around??
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I have to think there is some unreleased material around somewere. No proof.
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Quote from: noname on April 07, 2011, 03:22:55 PM
Quote from: The Real Beach Boy on April 07, 2011, 11:49:06 AM
Smile sessions = 25%
Everything else = 55%
75% of SMiLE sessions remain in the dark? Using
nightvision
, how much of that is not just studio farting-around??
100 % of it.
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April 07, 2011, 04:49:49 PM »
I think 90-95% is relatively accurate. There are probably a few gems left to be discovered, but there's already so much out there that it's hard to imagine much more existing. I'd love to be proven wrong, but given that most of what we've got can be tied to the known list of session dates, there aren't too many left that are unaccounted for.
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April 07, 2011, 10:50:13 PM »
Most of the tapes that were leaked are backing tracks. Very few vocals, so I bet we get a ton of that.
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Thanks all! Yes - the vocal sessions are really nice to listen to - legal or not. Let's hope for more sessions during our lifetime... Some of the stuff should be used for educational purposes!
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Quote from: hypehat on April 07, 2011, 11:51:45 AM
Actually it's all leaked, and no, I'm not sharing.
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Quote from: Heywood Floyd on April 07, 2011, 10:50:13 PM
Most of the tapes that were leaked are backing tracks. Very few vocals, so I bet we get a ton of that.
I have this bad feeling that, as most of the vocals were done at Columbia, they may have gone the way of the "GV" vocal multitracks in the spring 1967 turn-out.
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I really hope that Dennis' "I Don't Know" and the Jasper Dailey sessions are on the new box!
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Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on April 08, 2011, 06:44:17 AM
Quote from: Heywood Floyd on April 07, 2011, 10:50:13 PM
Most of the tapes that were leaked are backing tracks. Very few vocals, so I bet we get a ton of that.
I have this bad feeling that, as most of the vocals were done at Columbia, they may have gone the way of the "GV" vocal multitracks in the spring 1967 turn-out.
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Re: How much has leaked?
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Quote from: Heywood Floyd on April 08, 2011, 10:40:16 AM
Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on April 08, 2011, 06:44:17 AM
Quote from: Heywood Floyd on April 07, 2011, 10:50:13 PM
Most of the tapes that were leaked are backing tracks. Very few vocals, so I bet we get a ton of that.
I have this bad feeling that, as most of the vocals were done at Columbia, they may have gone the way of the "GV" vocal multitracks in the spring 1967 turn-out.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
And yet "Good Vibrations" was finished and released before spring 1967, but the other SMiLE tracks weren't. Why would tapes be trashed (by Columbia) when the tracks in question had not yet been completed or released?
If the tapes were trashed sometime in the early-to-mid 70s or later, then I would understand (although not appreciate) Columbia's house cleaning.
This doesn't mean I expect to hear many vocal tracks, but "spring '67" seems too early for SMiLE vocals to be thrown out with the garbage.
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Quote from: Roger Ryan on April 08, 2011, 11:54:28 AM
This doesn't mean I expect to hear many vocal tracks, but "spring '67" seems too early for SMiLE vocals to be thrown out with the garbage.
Unless Brian intentionally threw them out with the garbage.
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I think I remember reading about Carl Wilson and Steve Desper transferring the SMiLE tapes to different tape stock, and listening to the sessions, around the time of the Surf's Up album.
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Quote from: Heywood Floyd on May 06, 2011, 08:00:55 PM
I think I remember reading about Carl Wilson and Steve Desper transferring the SMiLE tapes to different tape stock, and listening to the sessions, around the time of the Surf's Up album.
Getheheckouttahere! Where'd you hear a crazy thing like that?
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I heard somewhere that Brian was recording a track called "Fire" and around the same time there was a fire in a building next door to the studio and soon after an unusual number of fires broke out in L.A. and Brian thought it was caused by the music, so he got paranoid and scared and burned the tapes.
Anybody remember that story?
That musta been some gooooood pot he was smokin'!
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Quote from: Mikie on May 06, 2011, 10:49:26 PM
I heard somewhere that Brian was recording a track called "Fire" and around the same time there was a fire in a building next door to the studio and soon after an unusual number of fires broke out in L.A. and Brian thought it was caused by the music, so he got paranoid and scared and burned the tapes.
Anybody remember that story?
That musta been some gooooood pot he was smokin'!
And I also heard that Brian had meetings in his pool, because he thought Murry was bugging his house...
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Quote from: Alex on April 08, 2011, 09:55:20 AM
I really hope that Dennis' "I Don't Know" and the Jasper Dailey sessions are on the new box!
seconded. i'd bet those dailey recordings are a hoot. honestly though, i suspect we've heard most of everything already.
my only hope is that this project will feature brian's direct involvment in assembling everything into a mindblowing '67 lp length bricolage.
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Quote from: Mikie on May 06, 2011, 10:49:26 PM
That musta been some gooooood pot he was smokin'!
More like Hash
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Quote from: FUN³ on May 07, 2011, 09:25:25 AM
my only hope is that this project will feature brian's direct involvment in assembling everything into a mindblowing '67 lp length bricolage.
Ummmmmmmmmmm...
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Well...he could certainly make an LP-length version for the box set but it'll be missing a ton of stuff.
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