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And so it starts....
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A message posted by David Anderle's son Jonathan:
>>>Mike Love,
I understand that you have been very annoyed with things that pop had said about you in the past. But to insinuate as you do in your book that the sale of the Beach Boys' catalog to Almo/Irving publishing and dad's later involvement with A&M Records was all part of a connected "scam" is nonsensical and libelous. It's unfortunate that you waited until dad was gone to make this claim, but that really says everything. Nothing you can do will dampen my love for the music of which you were a vital part, but it's frustrating that there will be some people who will believe this to be true, even though most people will very much consider the source. <<<
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Woah, that is some serious conspiracy thinking on Mike's part...
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Quote from: guitarfool2002 on August 26, 2016, 06:51:31 PM
A message posted by David Anderle's son Jonathan:
>>>Mike Love,
I understand that you have been very annoyed with things that pop had said about you in the past. But to insinuate as you do in your book that the sale of the Beach Boys' catalog to Almo/Irving publishing and dad's later involvement with A&M Records was all part of a connected "scam" is nonsensical and libelous. It's unfortunate that you waited until dad was gone to make this claim, but that really says everything. Nothing you can do will dampen my love for the music of which you were a vital part, but it's frustrating that there will be some people who will believe this to be true, even though most people will very much consider the source. <<<
Wow...that was quite vile. (Not from Jonathan's end)
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It's unfortunate that you waited until dad was gone to make this claim, but that really says everything.
It certainly does.
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I tried to tell everyone that this guy was a bad actor and no damn good years ago. I can't say how satisfying it is to see it come to fruition. I's all finally unfolding and I would absolutely relish seeing that ungrateful slab of olive loaf have his sorry rear end hauled through the legal system losing a good slice of his unearned monies not to mention cementing his legacy as an all around wart on the band.
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I guess this book is trying to tie in Anderle with the "druggies, thieves, and plagiarizers" named in Mike's 2005 lawsuit.
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I think it's inevitable that both sides are heading for yet another lawsuit.
As for me, I will read neither book. I prefer to stick to the music.
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In the words of Gomer Pyle..."Surprise, Surprise, Surprise!!!!"
This is gonna be like the Hall of Fame thingy...I hope he doesn't mention ME in his misguided little 'novel'.
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Obviously, I only know what Jonathan Anderle said, not what was in the book, so I can't comment on that specifically. What I will say is that it was very well known in the 60's and beyond that David Anderle was one of the most respected figures ever in the music business. He was an artists' advocate and he cultivated and protected the best of the best in composers, performers, et al. The music always came first with him, as well as the people who created it. I can't imagine why anyone would attack the man.
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Quote from: Debbie KL on August 27, 2016, 09:37:44 AM
Obviously, I only know what Jonathan Anderle said, not what was in the book, so I can't comment on that specifically. What I will say is that it was very well known in the 60's and beyond that David Anderle was one of the most respected figures ever in the music business. He was an artists' advocate and he cultivated and protected the best of the best in composers, performers, et al. The music always came first with him, as well as the people who created it. I can't imagine why anyone would attack the man.
Like so many others that have left this life at a relatively early age, I still can't believe that David Anderle is gone. To Debbie's point, Sheryl Crow is one artist who's career has definitely benefitted from the guidance of David Anderle.
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I read this thread title thinking Brian had announced that he'd begun work on a new album or something. But of course, it's just more bitterness.
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Quote from: Ninten on August 27, 2016, 09:42:03 AM
I read this thread title thinking Brian had announced that he'd begun work on a new album or something. But of course, it's just more bitterness.
Hmm - I thought what C-man and I said was in honor of a great man, David Anderle. Please explain to me where we were being "bitter."
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I think one of the points Jonathan Anderle may be alluding to is that it is, under the law, impossible to libel or slander a deceased person. You can kinda claim whatever you want; their estate or family can't sue in most cases.
One of the "benefits" of waiting until you're 75 and many of your contemporaries are gone to write your "setting things straight" book. Just be glad Brian is still alive (beyond the obvious reasons), because a Mike book written with no possibility of Brian suing would invariably be even *more* inflammatory than whatever is there now.
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To take that route...one would have to be OH-SO challenged in terms of being able to actually produce so much as even 1 ball ... another person would have to think.
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Quote from: Debbie KL on August 27, 2016, 10:29:20 AM
Quote from: Ninten on August 27, 2016, 09:42:03 AM
I read this thread title thinking Brian had announced that he'd begun work on a new album or something. But of course, it's just more bitterness.
Hmm - I thought what C-man and I said was in honor of a great man, David Anderle. Please explain to me where we were being "bitter."
Maybe he meant bitterness from Mike...?
All I know is that I'll continue to defend Mike's contributions to the music, but I've lost all respect for him as a person over the last few years.
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One of the "benefits" of waiting until you're 75 and many of your contemporaries are gone to write your "setting things straight" book. Just be glad Brian is still alive (beyond the obvious reasons), because a Mike book written with no possibility of Brian suing would invariably be even *more* inflammatory than whatever is there now.
That is so cowardly. And if Mike were to outlive Brian and talk smack about him, I'd join the long line of people waiting to teach him some 'respect'.
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Quote from: ♩♬ Billy C ♯♫♩ on August 27, 2016, 11:07:24 AM
Quote from: Debbie KL on August 27, 2016, 10:29:20 AM
Quote from: Ninten on August 27, 2016, 09:42:03 AM
I read this thread title thinking Brian had announced that he'd begun work on a new album or something. But of course, it's just more bitterness.
Hmm - I thought what C-man and I said was in honor of a great man, David Anderle. Please explain to me where we were being "bitter."
Maybe he meant bitterness from Mike...?
All I know is that I'll continue to defend Mike's contributions to the music, but I've lost all respect for him as a person over the last few years.
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One of the "benefits" of waiting until you're 75 and many of your contemporaries are gone to write your "setting things straight" book. Just be glad Brian is still alive (beyond the obvious reasons), because a Mike book written with no possibility of Brian suing would invariably be even *more* inflammatory than whatever is there now.
That is so cowardly. And if Mike were to outlive Brian and talk smack about him, I'd join the long line of people waiting to teach him some 'respect'.
The line has been forming for quite a few years reaching the moon and back several times. Please step to the right to join.
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I have a feeling if i were to read his book, I might cut in line.
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Quote from: c-man on August 27, 2016, 09:40:57 AM
Quote from: Debbie KL on August 27, 2016, 09:37:44 AM
Obviously, I only know what Jonathan Anderle said, not what was in the book, so I can't comment on that specifically. What I will say is that it was very well known in the 60's and beyond that David Anderle was one of the most respected figures ever in the music business. He was an artists' advocate and he cultivated and protected the best of the best in composers, performers, et al. The music always came first with him, as well as the people who created it. I can't imagine why anyone would attack the man.
Like so many others that have left this life at a relatively early age, I still can't believe that David Anderle is gone. To Debbie's point, Sheryl Crow is one artist who's career has definitely benefitted from the guidance of David Anderle.
He also worked for Kris Kristofferson. In Kris' "If you don't like Hank Williams" you can even hear him (Kris) mentioning David Anderle's name during the outro.
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Quote from: ♩♬ Billy C ♯♫♩ on August 27, 2016, 11:07:24 AM
Quote from: Debbie KL on August 27, 2016, 10:29:20 AM
Quote from: Ninten on August 27, 2016, 09:42:03 AM
I read this thread title thinking Brian had announced that he'd begun work on a new album or something. But of course, it's just more bitterness.
Hmm - I thought what C-man and I said was in honor of a great man, David Anderle. Please explain to me where we were being "bitter."
Maybe he meant bitterness from Mike...?
All I know is that I'll continue to defend Mike's contributions to the music, but I've lost all respect for him as a person over the last few years.
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One of the "benefits" of waiting until you're 75 and many of your contemporaries are gone to write your "setting things straight" book. Just be glad Brian is still alive (beyond the obvious reasons), because a Mike book written with no possibility of Brian suing would invariably be even *more* inflammatory than whatever is there now.
That is so cowardly. And if Mike were to outlive Brian and talk smack about him, I'd join the long line of people waiting to teach him some 'respect'.
Billy - Thanks for pointing that out. Since the comment appeared right after my and c-man's posts I thought they were being referenced. If the poster doesn't reply, I'll assume that's what he meant.
And thanks for adding more, Rocker, to honoring David Anderle's legacy.
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Quote from: Debbie KL on August 27, 2016, 09:37:44 AM
Obviously, I only know what Jonathan Anderle said, not what was in the book, so I can't comment on that specifically. What I will say is that it was very well known in the 60's and beyond that David Anderle was one of the most respected figures ever in the music business. He was an artists' advocate and he cultivated and protected the best of the best in composers, performers, et al. The music always came first with him, as well as the people who created it. I can't imagine why anyone would attack the man.
Like so many others that have left this life at a relatively early age, I still can't believe that David Anderle is gone. To Debbie's point, Sheryl Crow is one artist who's career has definitely benefitted from the guidance of David Anderle.
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You can also add the Gin Blossoms to that list since he was heavily involved with their career.
Also Anderle produced Missouri natives Ozark Mountain Daredevils. David co-produced this hit with Glyn Johns. Ozark Mountain Daredevils - Jackie Blue:
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Quote from: Ninten on August 27, 2016, 09:42:03 AM
I read this thread title thinking Brian had announced that he'd begun work on a new album or something. But of course, it's just more bitterness.
Mike attacks a respected figure in the music business who, coincidentally, is not alive to defend himself.
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Mike needs to add a song to his live set, a modified Led Zeppelin cover, "Everybody's Fault But Mike's"
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Has anyone here read the book yet? What does Mike imply/say? Must it be pure bullshit beacause Anderele was a great guy? I mean: it could be bullshit for other reasons. Or maybe he has a point. Could he?
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