Brian & Mike writing together again

[guitarfool2002]

Just please God, no references to cars, the beach or namechecking old song titles!

That request sounds like someone asking Burger King to not sell hamburgers...

[seanmurd]

Uhh, I don't remember that. Do you mean it will be good? or am i being obtuse?

Andrew summed it up nicely -- the Wilson/Asher reunion in the late 1990s produced a couple of inoffensive songs, nothing more. The message being: Just because two famous songwriting partners "reunite" doesn't mean the earth will shake, or lives will be changed. Indeed, it could be completely unmemorable. Mike and Brian, even if they bring the best they have left to the table, aren't capable of creating "Beach Boys" magic by themselves -- without Carl and Dennis and innumerable other factors, this reunion will be a futile effort at best. A one-off of "Do It Again" could be fun, for the big anniversary, but any new collaboration is almost certainly doomed to disappoint.

[Mike's Beard]

Just please God, no references to cars, the beach or namechecking old song titles!

That request sounds like someone asking Burger King to not sell hamburgers...

If Mike does that, it will only leave him with TM to sing about!

[SMiLE Brian]

Just please God, no references to cars, the beach or namechecking old song titles!

That request sounds like someone asking Burger King to not sell hamburgers...

If Mike does that, it will only leave him with TM to sing about!

I want the Mike who wrote lyrics to "Today!"or "warmth of the sun" to come back and write lyrics that are awesome. Brian and Mike could write some great reflective songs about age or the history of the band.

[Fun Is In]

What's the most recent memorable song that Brian and Mike collaborated on?

("memorably awful" doesn't count)

[bgas]

Uhh, I don't remember that. Do you mean it will be good? or am i being obtuse?

Andrew summed it up nicely -- the Wilson/Asher reunion in the late 1990s produced a couple of inoffensive songs, nothing more. The message being: Just because two famous songwriting partners "reunite" doesn't mean the earth will shake, or lives will be changed. Indeed, it could be completely unmemorable. Mike and Brian, even if they bring the best they have left to the table, aren't capable of creating "Beach Boys" magic by themselves -- without Carl and Dennis and innumerable other factors, this reunion will be a futile effort at best. A one-off of "Do It Again" could be fun, for the big anniversary, but any new collaboration is almost certainly doomed to disappoint.

Oh, those songs. I should have remembered that for sure!  Oh well, life spirals down a bit
Points taken; maybe they'll write something that can be recorded, to acclaim, by someone other than the quote/unquote Beach Boys

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

This Isn't Love", from both the Roxy album and the 2nd Flintstones movie, which recycles a chunk of "You're Still A Mystery":

Wait...I thought This isn't Love was written during the Dennis/Brian 'cocaine sessions'? Asking as I have 'heard' something that sounds very much like it.

[guitarfool2002]

What's the most recent memorable song that Brian and Mike collaborated on?

("memorably awful" doesn't count)

Reminds me of a story Don Was told in Pulse! magazine when he was working with Brian and Mike in the 90's. He told them if they write about surfing it won't ring true, and thought they should write about their family struggles and redemption, something uplifting and personal.

And they came back to him with something called "Baywatch Nights".

[Andrew G. Doe]

This Isn't Love", from both the Roxy album and the 2nd Flintstones movie, which recycles a chunk of "You're Still A Mystery":

Wait...I thought This isn't Love was written during the Dennis/Brian 'cocaine sessions'? Asking as I have 'heard' something that sounds very much like it.

Nope.

[Mike's Beard]

What's the most recent memorable song that Brian and Mike collaborated on?

("memorably awful" doesn't count)

Reminds me of a story Don Was told in Pulse! magazine when he was working with Brian and Mike in the 90's. He told them if they write about surfing it won't ring true, and thought they should write about their family struggles and redemption, something uplifting and personal.

And they came back to him with something called "Baywatch Nights".

How on earth did the show "Baywatch Nights" ever get the greenlight? What was the one reason people watched Baywatch for? Take that out and what are you left with? That's right, "Baywatch Nights". Talk about phucking with the formula!!

[Jason]

This Isn't Love", from both the Roxy album and the 2nd Flintstones movie, which recycles a chunk of "You're Still A Mystery":

Wait...I thought This isn't Love was written during the Dennis/Brian 'cocaine sessions'? Asking as I have 'heard' something that sounds very much like it.

Nope.

There's a bit on the 20 minute tape from late 1982 that has Brian working out a very rudimentary chord progression that sounds very similar to This Isn't Love. I doubt it was known as This Isn't Love then. You can barely hear Brian singing on it but the vocal melody is similar to the Roxy version.

[Chris Brown]

Just please God, no references to cars, the beach or namechecking old song titles!

That request sounds like someone asking Burger King to not sell hamburgers...

If Mike does that, it will only leave him with TM to sing about!

I want the Mike who wrote lyrics to "Today!"or "warmth of the sun" to come back and write lyrics that are awesome. Brian and Mike could write some great reflective songs about age or the history of the band.

That's what I'm naively hoping for too. All those years of life between them, there has to be more to write about than a cheesy rehashing of the past. Somewhere inside Mike there's still a damn fine lyricist, and maybe reconnecting with Brian will allow him to get in touch with said lyricist.

[drbeachboy]

Just please God, no references to cars, the beach or namechecking old song titles!

That request sounds like someone asking Burger King to not sell hamburgers...

If Mike does that, it will only leave him with TM to sing about!

I want the Mike who wrote lyrics to "Today!"or "warmth of the sun" to come back and write lyrics that are awesome. Brian and Mike could write some great reflective songs about age or the history of the band.

Like, When I Grow Old (and Become Incontinent & Feeble), and stuff like that?

[guitarfool2002]

Just please God, no references to cars, the beach or namechecking old song titles!

That request sounds like someone asking Burger King to not sell hamburgers...

If Mike does that, it will only leave him with TM to sing about!

I want the Mike who wrote lyrics to "Today!"or "warmth of the sun" to come back and write lyrics that are awesome. Brian and Mike could write some great reflective songs about age or the history of the band.

That's what I'm naively hoping for too. All those years of life between them, there has to be more to write about than a cheesy rehashing of the past. Somewhere inside Mike there's still a damn fine lyricist, and maybe reconnecting with Brian will allow him to get in touch with said lyricist.

If I could reprint the article right now I would, but what is written above sounds remarkably similar to what Don Was said he told Mike and Brian in the mid 90's.

[SMiLE Brian]

Just please God, no references to cars, the beach or namechecking old song titles!

That request sounds like someone asking Burger King to not sell hamburgers...

If Mike does that, it will only leave him with TM to sing about!

I want the Mike who wrote lyrics to "Today!"or "warmth of the sun" to come back and write lyrics that are awesome. Brian and Mike could write some great reflective songs about age or the history of the band.

Like, When I Grow Old (and Become Incontinent & Feeble), and stuff like that?

That would be more entertaining than Mike writing about being the old surfer godfather that he is not or racing classic cars he has never owned or driven.

[donald]

I've suggested this before.  A full treatment by all members, complete with soaring harmony (as on the song EH), of California Feeling.  The song just feels right for a 50th anniv career theme for the BeachBoys.  I could go on, I'd certainly have other suggestions,  but that one thing would make it for me.

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

This Isn't Love", from both the Roxy album and the 2nd Flintstones movie, which recycles a chunk of "You're Still A Mystery":

Wait...I thought This isn't Love was written during the Dennis/Brian 'cocaine sessions'? Asking as I have 'heard' something that sounds very much like it.

Nope.

There's a bit on the 20 minute tape from late 1982 that has Brian working out a very rudimentary chord progression that sounds very similar to This Isn't Love. I doubt it was known as This Isn't Love then. You can barely hear Brian singing on it but the vocal melody is similar to the Roxy version.

It was titled "Untitled Piano Demo" on the version I've, um, 'seen'.

[SMiLE Brian]

Just please God, no references to cars, the beach or namechecking old song titles!

That request sounds like someone asking Burger King to not sell hamburgers...

If Mike does that, it will only leave him with TM to sing about!

I want the Mike who wrote lyrics to "Today!"or "warmth of the sun" to come back and write lyrics that are awesome. Brian and Mike could write some great reflective songs about age or the history of the band.

That's what I'm naively hoping for too. All those years of life between them, there has to be more to write about than a cheesy rehashing of the past. Somewhere inside Mike there's still a damn fine lyricist, and maybe reconnecting with Brian will allow him to get in touch with said lyricist.

I hope so because this the last chance the band has to go out on top as a great group instead of the goofy group from the 1980s and 1990s that people in America remember. Mike and Brian definitely would understand the stakes at hand.

[Amy B.]

Uhh, I don't remember that. Do you mean it will be good? or am i being obtuse?

Andrew summed it up nicely -- the Wilson/Asher reunion in the late 1990s produced a couple of inoffensive songs, nothing more. The message being: Just because two famous songwriting partners "reunite" doesn't mean the earth will shake, or lives will be changed. Indeed, it could be completely unmemorable. Mike and Brian, even if they bring the best they have left to the table, aren't capable of creating "Beach Boys" magic by themselves -- without Carl and Dennis and innumerable other factors, this reunion will be a futile effort at best. A one-off of "Do It Again" could be fun, for the big anniversary, but any new collaboration is almost certainly doomed to disappoint.

Okay, so the Wilson/Asher reunion didn't result in another Pet Sounds. But those songs were miles ahead of many of Mike's lyrical efforts. The "Wrinkles" thread comes to mind. What Brian and Mike need is someone to set them straight when they start veering off into references to
(a) Still being in high school
(b) Driving classic cars, or "cruisin'"
(c) Surfing
(d) Dating girls (i.e. 15-22-year-olds)
(e) Their old songs

Maybe they just need a third party to make suggestions like Don Was did. Introspection (while trying to avoid cliches) would be the most poignant. These guys have a lot of history together and a lot of feelings about their relationship and their lives, separately and together.

[Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again]

Check this out, posted by Barnyard2

I was able to meet Bruce, Christian and Scott at the hotel, and Mike at the venue before the show.
Mike said that Brian has written new songs and he is putting some lyrics on them. Also that they are talking about the reunion.
Bruce mentioned that next year it will be four dates in Spain. Maybe as part of a world wide reunion tour?

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,10665.0.html

Looks like we will be getting material

More likely Bruce has written some new songs, and Mike's adding lyrics to those.  
It could be cool to have some new BW/ML songs, if only to see what Mike comes up with, but I doubt it will happen.

It shouldn't ever happen and hopefully never will happen.

Yeah, you're absolutely right, aren't you?

Look at all the crap Brian and Mike wrote together!

Sheesh

Merda like:

Good Vibrations
I'm Waiting For The Day
California Girls
Do It Again
Wild Honey
Darlin
The Warmth Of The Sun
Goin On
Let The Wind Blow
Cool Cool Water
All I Wanna Do
Please Let Me Wonder
Fun Fun Fun
Kiss Me Baby
It's OK


... to name just a few

Thank GOD the likes of which will never happen again if oldmykeluvrdood has his way!

Gee, we should have a new Good Vibrations any day now- hey-maybe a new Pet Sounds as wee-Today anybody??

Well, dang, perhaps we'll even get another "Matchpoint Of Our Love"!!!!

[Rocker]

So, is Brian in the studio in september to lay down the new tracks...... ?  

[seanmurd]

Uhh, I don't remember that. Do you mean it will be good? or am i being obtuse?

Andrew summed it up nicely -- the Wilson/Asher reunion in the late 1990s produced a couple of inoffensive songs, nothing more. The message being: Just because two famous songwriting partners "reunite" doesn't mean the earth will shake, or lives will be changed. Indeed, it could be completely unmemorable. Mike and Brian, even if they bring the best they have left to the table, aren't capable of creating "Beach Boys" magic by themselves -- without Carl and Dennis and innumerable other factors, this reunion will be a futile effort at best. A one-off of "Do It Again" could be fun, for the big anniversary, but any new collaboration is almost certainly doomed to disappoint.

Okay, so the Wilson/Asher reunion didn't result in another Pet Sounds. But those songs were miles ahead of many of Mike's lyrical efforts. The "Wrinkles" thread comes to mind. What Brian and Mike need is someone to set them straight when they start veering off into references to
(a) Still being in high school
(b) Driving classic cars, or "cruisin'"
(c) Surfing
(d) Dating girls (i.e. 15-22-year-olds)
(e) Their old songs

Maybe they just need a third party to make suggestions like Don Was did. Introspection (while trying to avoid cliches) would be the most poignant. These guys have a lot of history together and a lot of feelings about their relationship and their lives, separately and together.

Be careful what you wish for -- if Brian and Mike get into the studio together and start getting "introspective" about their long history together, the session will probably result in another lawsuit.

[drbeachboy]

Uhh, I don't remember that. Do you mean it will be good? or am i being obtuse?

Andrew summed it up nicely -- the Wilson/Asher reunion in the late 1990s produced a couple of inoffensive songs, nothing more. The message being: Just because two famous songwriting partners "reunite" doesn't mean the earth will shake, or lives will be changed. Indeed, it could be completely unmemorable. Mike and Brian, even if they bring the best they have left to the table, aren't capable of creating "Beach Boys" magic by themselves -- without Carl and Dennis and innumerable other factors, this reunion will be a futile effort at best. A one-off of "Do It Again" could be fun, for the big anniversary, but any new collaboration is almost certainly doomed to disappoint.

Okay, so the Wilson/Asher reunion didn't result in another Pet Sounds. But those songs were miles ahead of many of Mike's lyrical efforts. The "Wrinkles" thread comes to mind. What Brian and Mike need is someone to set them straight when they start veering off into references to
(a) Still being in high school
(b) Driving classic cars, or "cruisin'"
(c) Surfing
(d) Dating girls (i.e. 15-22-year-olds)
(e) Their old songs

Maybe they just need a third party to make suggestions like Don Was did. Introspection (while trying to avoid cliches) would be the most poignant. These guys have a lot of history together and a lot of feelings about their relationship and their lives, separately and together.

You are talking about close to 20 years difference between Wrinkles and new Wilson/Asher tunes. Though some of the lyrics are not too good on SIP, which is closer in time. Mike hasn't done a whole lotta writing since then, so it is hard to tell if he can still write something creative for a new album.

[Sam_BFC]

I personally think Everything I Need could have been more than merely 'inoffensive' - even great - with the right production, but unfortunately Joe Thomas saw to that I believe.

I also think Mike showed with Cool Head, Warm Heart that his talents are not completely shot.

[joe_blow]

What is the over/under on Fun Fun Fun and Wouldn't It Be Nice? coming up in the lyrics as written in Summer In Paradise?