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[retrokid67]

Hopefully now the little prick would just disappear into history!

  did you see that newscast on YouTube where the girl interrupted an important topic for him going to jail?

Nope. Send me the link

ok here it is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GH68bSJXGE8 

[bluesno1fann]

Hopefully now the little prick would just disappear into history!

  did you see that newscast on YouTube where the girl interrupted an important topic for him going to jail?

Nope. Send me the link

ok here it is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GH68bSJXGE8 

She interrupted the Congresswoman who was talking about a very important issue for Bieber!
And his arrest is Breaking News?!

Un-freaking-believable! 

[bluesno1fann]

Bieber always acts like he's a badass and he's always trying to look cool, but really he's a little douchebag who only got famous because he was eye-candy to pre-pubescent girls!

[retrokid67]

Bieber always acts like he's a badass and he's always trying to look cool, but really he's a little douchebag who only got famous because he was eye-candy to pre-pubescent girls!

when I first saw him I thought he looked like little Donny Osmond with a bad hair cut  and yea now it's finally caught up to him.  And can you believe that his fans at one point were cutting themselves for him, (I forgot what the reason for it was) and he didn't even speak out about that. 

[bluesno1fann]

Bieber always acts like he's a badass and he's always trying to look cool, but really he's a little douchebag who only got famous because he was eye-candy to pre-pubescent girls!

when I first saw him I thought he looked like little Donny Osmond with a bad hair cut  and yea now it's finally caught up to him.  And can you believe that his fans at one point were cutting themselves for him, (I forgot what the reason for it was) and he didn't even speak out about that. 

When he tries to make himself look cool (perhaps because he realized that everything thinks he's gay?) he only makes himself look like a complete phony jackass.
Their fans I cannot stand (though I still prefer Beliebers over Directioners for obvious reasons), and the crazy ones actually started cutting themselves because Bieber started smoking marijuana!
Can you believe that?! Marijuana isn't even a bad "drug" and they're cutting themselves up over that! It's not like he was using Meth or Heroin or sh*t like that which can actually harm you and/or kill you!

[retrokid67]

Bieber always acts like he's a badass and he's always trying to look cool, but really he's a little douchebag who only got famous because he was eye-candy to pre-pubescent girls!

when I first saw him I thought he looked like little Donny Osmond with a bad hair cut  and yea now it's finally caught up to him.  And can you believe that his fans at one point were cutting themselves for him, (I forgot what the reason for it was) and he didn't even speak out about that. 

When he tries to make himself look cool (perhaps because he realized that everything thinks he's gay?) he only makes himself look like a complete phony jackass.
Their fans I cannot stand (though I still prefer Beliebers over Directioners for obvious reasons), and the crazy ones actually started cutting themselves because Bieber started smoking marijuana!
Can you believe that?! Marijuana isn't even a bad "drug" and they're cutting themselves up over that! It's not like he was using Meth or Heroin or sh*t like that which can actually harm you and/or kill you!

o yea that sure was the reason for that.  he should be ashamed of himself  and the fact that most of his fans are 12 years old and under..... can you imagine 5 year olds cutting themselves over that and probably don't even know what marijuana is (I know I didn't when I was 5).  and I know 1D fans were upset that Zayne smokes but I don't know if they do anything as stupid as what Bieber's fans did on those terms.

[bluesno1fann]

Bieber always acts like he's a badass and he's always trying to look cool, but really he's a little douchebag who only got famous because he was eye-candy to pre-pubescent girls!

when I first saw him I thought he looked like little Donny Osmond with a bad hair cut  and yea now it's finally caught up to him.  And can you believe that his fans at one point were cutting themselves for him, (I forgot what the reason for it was) and he didn't even speak out about that. 

When he tries to make himself look cool (perhaps because he realized that everything thinks he's gay?) he only makes himself look like a complete phony jackass.
Their fans I cannot stand (though I still prefer Beliebers over Directioners for obvious reasons), and the crazy ones actually started cutting themselves because Bieber started smoking marijuana!
Can you believe that?! Marijuana isn't even a bad "drug" and they're cutting themselves up over that! It's not like he was using Meth or Heroin or sh*t like that which can actually harm you and/or kill you!

o yea that sure was the reason for that.  he should be ashamed of himself  and the fact that most of his fans are 12 years old and under..... can you imagine 5 year olds cutting themselves over that and probably don't even know what marijuana is (I know I didn't when I was 5).  and I know 1D fans were upset that Zayne smokes but I don't know if they do anything as stupid as what Bieber's fans did on those terms.

True. But I still say Directioners are worse, and why they're worse I already explained earlier in this thread

[JohnMill]

Hopefully now the little prick would just disappear into history!

Perhaps fifty years ago he would have.  Now most of the world subscribes to the theory that there is no such thing as bad press. 

If you can't stand the guy don't worry though, his clock is ticking.  Unless he is able to make the transition that Timberlake made from boy band pop star to a successful adult singer, this kid is going to have his best days behind him in a few years.  Fair warning though: as I mentioned awhile back, someone in an office right now is dreaming up another one (or a group of them) just like him to serve as his "replacement".

[the captain]

If you can't stand the guy don't worry though, his clock is ticking.  Unless he is able to make the transition that Timberlake made from boy band pop star to a successful adult singer, this kid is going to have his best days behind him in a few years.  Fair warning though: as I mentioned awhile back, someone in an office right now is dreaming up another one (or a group of them) just like him to serve as his "replacement".

I think you're on the right track, except one thing: the part I bolded in your quote implies that his best days are yet to come. I'd say that's highly unlikely. Usually the major non-musical drama associated with child/tween/teen pop stars only really begins once their initial musical stardom has begun to fade. Bieber's most recognizable (and I'd say best--and yes, I think it's a good song, actually) song, "Baby," is from 2010. His other biggest hit, "Boyfriend," is two years old. The girls who loved him most are a few years older, and at that age, that's usually enough to move on and find something they think is a little more substantial. So I'd say Bieber's best musical days are most likely behind him, unless he happens to find the sort of Justin Timberlake rebirth you mentioned. (I doubt this, as he doesn't strike me as even half as talented as JT.)

What astounds me, though, is that anyone outside the target markets for people like Bieber even cares at all. To read or hear in associated papers, magazines, message boards, or whatever, the kind of righteous rage or condescension to me just baffles. It's a bit like getting angry at the actors on Nickelodeon's TV shows for failing to be up to the standards of Meryl Streep and Robert DeNiro, or the writers of children's books for not being Tolstoys. Pop is pop. It's meant for kids, tweens, teens. It's stupid, catchy, and put placed in the mouths of attractive performers. That's just what happens. Always has, as long as we've had mass media. Always will. It's a universe that doesn't apply to grown-ups. Why get worked up over whether it's good, bad, or indifferent?

[Myk Luhv]

I would get angry at him for what he did because he apparently got a DUI and seems pretty unaffected by this -- he's smiling in his mug shot, after all. His fans furthermore seem to think this is just fine as well, as they're supposedly trending on Twitter to exonerate him. That is pretty disgusting, that just because you're famous (and more to the point, wealthy) you should be able to get away with things that no one else is able to get away with. Plus, a DUI is a big fucking deal, doing that can and often does kill people...

[the captain]

That makes more sense, in that it isn't really about how or why he's popular or the quality of his music.

But the sense of entitlement and bad behavior does pretty much go with the territory of being a child star. Unlimited money, the adoration of a huge number of people and attempts at ingratiation (for financial benefit) of another huge number creating a buffer zone between you and reality, etc.

That the wealthy--forget famous--can get away with what the poor can't is just a pathetic piece of reality, too. Bieber's just one little example of that. (Personally I'm more frustrated by the people far more wealthy and far less famous than him, and what they get away with. But that's a Sandbox discussion...)

[Myk Luhv]

I don't think it should be a competition about which wealthy person can get away with worse things, it's all equally repulsive to me. And I think at this point, especially for a teen idol figure like Bieber, this will affect his popularity. Plenty of other famous, rich people do similarly terrible or worse things and get adulation for it all the same. You're right though, this is at least not relevant to the discussion of his music. I just figured it was worth pointing out since I find it especially disgusting...

[retrokid67]

Bieber always acts like he's a badass and he's always trying to look cool, but really he's a little douchebag who only got famous because he was eye-candy to pre-pubescent girls!

when I first saw him I thought he looked like little Donny Osmond with a bad hair cut  and yea now it's finally caught up to him.  And can you believe that his fans at one point were cutting themselves for him, (I forgot what the reason for it was) and he didn't even speak out about that. 

When he tries to make himself look cool (perhaps because he realized that everything thinks he's gay?) he only makes himself look like a complete phony jackass.
Their fans I cannot stand (though I still prefer Beliebers over Directioners for obvious reasons), and the crazy ones actually started cutting themselves because Bieber started smoking marijuana!
Can you believe that?! Marijuana isn't even a bad "drug" and they're cutting themselves up over that! It's not like he was using Meth or Heroin or sh*t like that which can actually harm you and/or kill you!

o yea that sure was the reason for that.  he should be ashamed of himself  and the fact that most of his fans are 12 years old and under..... can you imagine 5 year olds cutting themselves over that and probably don't even know what marijuana is (I know I didn't when I was 5).  and I know 1D fans were upset that Zayne smokes but I don't know if they do anything as stupid as what Bieber's fans did on those terms.

True. But I still say Directioners are worse, and why they're worse I already explained earlier in this thread

Yea what you shared earlier about them is unforgivable 

[bluesno1fann]

Hopefully now the little prick would just disappear into history!

Perhaps fifty years ago he would have.  Now most of the world subscribes to the theory that there is no such thing as bad press.  

If you can't stand the guy don't worry though, his clock is ticking.  Unless he is able to make the transition that Timberlake made from boy band pop star to a successful adult singer, this kid is going to have his best days behind him in a few years.  Fair warning though: as I mentioned awhile back, someone in an office right now is dreaming up another one (or a group of them) just like him to serve as his "replacement".

This is why I respect Justin Timberlake. He turned from a member of a crappy manufactured boy band to a great actor!
I wouldn't bet money on Bieber being nearly as successful

[JohnMill]

Hopefully now the little prick would just disappear into history!

Perhaps fifty years ago he would have.  Now most of the world subscribes to the theory that there is no such thing as bad press.  

If you can't stand the guy don't worry though, his clock is ticking.  Unless he is able to make the transition that Timberlake made from boy band pop star to a successful adult singer, this kid is going to have his best days behind him in a few years.  Fair warning though: as I mentioned awhile back, someone in an office right now is dreaming up another one (or a group of them) just like him to serve as his "replacement".

This is why I respect Justin Timberlake. He turned from a member of a crappy manufactured boy band to a great actor!
I wouldn't bet money on Bieber being nearly as successful

To me the word "great" is stretching it.  As captain referenced above Meryl Streep and Robert DeNiro are great actors, to call Timberlake a great actor to me would be disrespectful to those who have actually earned the title.  Probably why I've always disliked how loosely the word "great" is thrown around.  "Successful" would be a more appropriate term in my opinion.

[Ron]

The only problem i've got with Beiber is that he's a little punk, I don't mind that he's making a fortune singing and don't mind that a ton of little girls think he sounds good.  I do mind that he's a disrespectful little twit, even down to that video of him pissing in a mop bucket at some restauraunt... he's pissing in a mop bucket, and then saying something about 'f*** Bill Clinton' or something like that, the whole thing was just stupid.  Deserves a good ass kicking and maybe he'll settle down.

Also I cannot stand that he wears those pants with the crotch at his knees, that sh*t has GOT TO GO it ought to be illegal to dress like a clown if you're not in full face paint.

[Ron]

BTW if you want to know why society is f***ed up, or why anybody is f***ed up, look at their father.  The lack of good fathers in society is ruining America. 

His father was there the whole day while he was getting high, and helped set up the drag race, and now his son's arrested. 

His dad ought to have his ass kicked before they kick Justin's ass. 

[retrokid67]

The only problem i've got with Beiber is that he's a little punk, I don't mind that he's making a fortune singing and don't mind that a ton of little girls think he sounds good.  I do mind that he's a disrespectful little twit, even down to that video of him pissing in a mop bucket at some restauraunt... he's pissing in a mop bucket, and then saying something about 'f*** Bill Clinton' or something like that, the whole thing was just stupid.  Deserves a good ass kicking and maybe he'll settle down.

Also I cannot stand that he wears those pants with the crotch at his knees, that sh*t has GOT TO GO it ought to be illegal to dress like a clown if you're not in full face paint.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3GBQCYxNho   the voice crack

[Ron]

This is why I respect Justin Timberlake. He turned from a member of a crappy manufactured boy band to a great actor!
I wouldn't bet money on Bieber being nearly as successful

I'm not a big fan of Timberlake (don't really like him or his songs) but at least he's a contributing member of society that you won't see going to jail for stupid nonsense, or smoking drugs or driving intoxicated.  So to me he's a respectable person because he's living his life and also has his charities and things that he works for, etc.  He's just an all around respectable guy like anybody else you might meet, just happens to be rich and famous.  If somebody's doing their thing I don't care how famous or rich they are, good for Justin that he's successful, he's not harming anybody and he's actually helping in what little ways he can, that's the sign of a good man to me.  

[bluesno1fann]

Hopefully now the little prick would just disappear into history!

Perhaps fifty years ago he would have.  Now most of the world subscribes to the theory that there is no such thing as bad press.  

If you can't stand the guy don't worry though, his clock is ticking.  Unless he is able to make the transition that Timberlake made from boy band pop star to a successful adult singer, this kid is going to have his best days behind him in a few years.  Fair warning though: as I mentioned awhile back, someone in an office right now is dreaming up another one (or a group of them) just like him to serve as his "replacement".

This is why I respect Justin Timberlake. He turned from a member of a crappy manufactured boy band to a great actor!
I wouldn't bet money on Bieber being nearly as successful

To me the word "great" is stretching it.  As captain referenced above Meryl Streep and Robert DeNiro are great actors, to call Timberlake a great actor to me would be disrespectful to those who have actually earned the title.  Probably why I've always disliked how loosely the word "great" is thrown around.  "Successful" would be a more appropriate term in my opinion.

Good point. Guess I'll have to agree with you. Compared to the legends he's nothing, but he's not that bad.

The only problem i've got with Beiber is that he's a little punk, I don't mind that he's making a fortune singing and don't mind that a ton of little girls think he sounds good.  I do mind that he's a disrespectful little twit, even down to that video of him pissing in a mop bucket at some restauraunt... he's pissing in a mop bucket, and then saying something about 'f*** Bill Clinton' or something like that, the whole thing was just stupid.  Deserves a good ass kicking and maybe he'll settle down.

Also I cannot stand that he wears those pants with the crotch at his knees, that sh*t has GOT TO GO it ought to be illegal to dress like a clown if you're not in full face paint.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3GBQCYxNho   the voice crack

Oh man that's funny!  

I bet if the bodyguard weren't there and Bieber tried to attack the Paparazzi, Bieber would have got his arse kicked! 

[retrokid67]

ooo I could imagine that  it would be ugly, and with his outfit and the blood he would be covered in red from head to toe 

[bluesno1fann]

ooo I could imagine that   it would be ugly, and with his outfit and the blood he would be covered in red from head to toe  

And Now for Something Completely Different!                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   

[retrokid67]

ooo I could imagine that  it would be ugly, and with his outfit and the blood he would be covered in red from head to toe 

Yeah, at first Bieber would be trash-talking trying to look like a "badass", and throws the first punch. Then he gets a punch to the face. He doesn't get knocked out, and gives a barrage of punches. Bieber's punches are so weak that the paparazzi can barely feel a thing. Then the paparazzi would kick him in the gut, bringing Bieber down with a scream of pain. Then the paparazzi starts on him, just pinning Bieber down and going at him, with no mercy as he had enough of Bieber's douchebag attitude and his crappy music. Bieber starts begging for him to stop, and starts crying. Every time he tries to fight back he fails miserably. Finally, a bunch of people pull the paparazzi off him and call the police and ambulance.
In the aftermath, Bieber gets sued by the paparazzi on the grounds that Bieber threatened and attacked him first and he only attacked back on self-defence. Bieber's face is unrecognisable due to the punches he sustained, and he is disgraced and is force to retire. He spends the rest of his miserable life at his mum's home in Canada.         

Imagine if that happens in real life, that would be awesome! And this is coming from someone who doesn't usually support violence                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             

  yea I don't support violence either and in the past felt bad for people like him and Rebecca Black for the constant threats they were getting, but while Rebecca seems like a sweet girl, Bieber now comes across as a douchebag 

[bluesno1fann]

ooo I could imagine that   it would be ugly, and with his outfit and the blood he would be covered in red from head to toe  

And Now for Something Completely Different!                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

  yea I don't support violence either and in the past felt bad for people like him and Rebecca Black for the constant threats they were getting, but while Rebecca seems like a sweet girl, Bieber now comes across as a douchebag  

Yeah, Rebecca Black is a victim of both ARK Music Factory and the Public. Bieber is just a jerk

[RangeRoverA1]

Yeah, at first Bieber would be trash-talking trying to look like a "badass", and throws the first punch. Then he gets a punch to the face. He doesn't get knocked out, and gives a barrage of punches. Bieber's punches are so weak that the paparazzi can barely feel a thing. Then the paparazzi would kick him in the gut, bringing Bieber down with a scream of pain. Then the paparazzi starts on him, just pinning Bieber down and going at him, with no mercy as he had enough of Bieber's douchebag attitude and his crappy music. Bieber starts begging for him to stop, and starts crying. Every time he tries to fight back he fails miserably. Finally, a bunch of people pull the paparazzi off him and call the police and ambulance.
In the aftermath, Bieber gets sued by the paparazzi on the grounds that Bieber threatened and attacked him first and he only attacked back on self-defence. Bieber's face is unrecognisable due to the punches he sustained, and he is disgraced and is force to retire. He spends the rest of his miserable life at his mum's home in Canada.         

Imagine if that happens in real life, that would be awesome! And this is coming from someone who doesn't usually support violence                                            

I never cared about Bieber but you went totally overboard by posting this. I mean, he didn't do anything bad to you & your family personally. Why would you even waste time in writing sth. cruel like this? Or better yet, why would you follow his news discussing what bad he'd done then or now etc. if you clearly don't like his music? I thought everyone who's not into some artist ignores them & concentrates on their favorites.