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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Multitracked concerts
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on: August 04, 2014, 08:11:33 AM
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Guys, I need a little assistance. Seems there's a guy who thinks no one recorded more shows from say 1969-1980 to mulitrack than the Dead. He listed (though not with a detailed amount of shows per listing): 1969 for Live Dead, 1971 for Skull f***, Europe 1972 (not sure if Venture was a multi-track), Winterland 1974, 1975 Great American Music Hall show, Cow Palace NYE 1976, Winterland 1977, Egypt 1978, Nassau Coliseum, Radio City and Warfield 1980.
How do the BB stack up to that from 69-80? You could even include the 64-68 era if you want here. Just off the top of my head, I felt the BB would come close in that era. Does anyone have a true count or can come close?
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Beach Boys Rules
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on: July 24, 2014, 04:18:47 PM
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Thanks a bunch, Surfer! I took your advice re dressing like my favourite Beach Boy and now I've been sacked from my job for turning up for work wearing a blue bath robe with my belly hanging out.
I was drinking some water when I was reading your post and I almost spit it out all over the keyboard! That was great!
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: OK OWN UP - OBSESSION
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on: June 14, 2014, 09:13:36 AM
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I certainly visit this site among my main rotation of:
Yahoo News to get to my Yahoo Mail Facebook then depending on what I wanted to see first that day) - LTH Forum (Chicago foodies board) - Smiley Smile Board - Royal-Orleans (Led Zeppelin collectors board) - Google Maps (I'm a map junkie)
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Adventures In Duophonic
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on: May 23, 2014, 09:02:54 PM
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My uncle has been in the audio business since the 1960's as well as being a guitarist. I thought I'd share the original post in this thread with him and see if he wanted to add anything. He most certainly did...
1) Duophonic was simply a poor attempt to synthesize a stereo recording from mono masters. It truly sucked. They had various tricks referred to by the writer (of this thread)--bass on one side, highs on the other, delay between right and left, reverb to create phony depth, etc. Sadly, the Beach Boys were one of the major "victims." (My uncle thinks the BB were wonderful and was a big fan of the early 70's stuff as well as the classics).
2) The old consoles had a charm if they were "good ones". They strived to do little wrong as opposed to aspiring to be great as the technology escaped them. They had a mellow sound, if not terribly detailed so they were, nonetheless, easy on the ears. We had one. Make no mistake: there were superb audiophile options, albeit quite esoteric. The 1958 Quad Electrostatic remains the most coveted audiophile loudspeaker in history and may still have the clearest sound of any!
3) Only the dumbest, ignorant, stupid asshole engineers and producers bought into the playback though junky equipment philosophy. The fact is, if you truly create a great master, it sounds fucking great though everything, even tiny transistor radios--deep bass excepted. Yamaha became famous for studio monitors with really shitty product because some dolt though it as a good idea; he even covered the tweeter with a tissue! Other dolts emulated his flawed approach. Yeesh. The master tapes I heard when I recorded at Chess Studios (Chicago) were spectacular. The Chess brothers produced terrible recordings from those delightful masters simply because they wouldn't spend the dough to make fine recordings. The technology existed.
4) The alignment of the woofer and tweeter were irrelevant. still are in many cases. For every speaker "properly" aligned, one exists that isn't yet sounds fine; it's a mysterious art mixed with limited science. Ditto for crossovers. Nearly every speaker in existence uses a crossover to separate highs from lows--an undesirable necessity. Even if the principles of good designing were followed, the drivers (individual speaker components) in those days, were not up to high resolution due to materials and manufacturing considerations.
5) Mono was far, far superior.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Dolenz does Wild Honey!!!!
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on: February 26, 2014, 09:01:57 PM
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Micky is going to be 69 next month. This was a fun version - can't be taken seriously. But I am amazed he was able to pull it off. He did better on this than he does these days on the final chorus of Pleasant Valley Sunday. A very underrated singer with impressive range (especially in the good ol days) and even though he's definitely not known for his drumming, I have heard drummers mention him as being unique in his technique and not as easy to duplicate (kind of like McCartney's unusual acoustic strumming).
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What would you change about the 2012 Remasters program?
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on: February 23, 2014, 11:18:51 AM
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What albums would I add? All of them. Why would you only remaster some of them? Wouldn't you think that having a remasters campaign would mean that someone buying these albums for the first time may want to get more albums? Example - A guy buys Today, Summer Days, Party, Pet Sounds, Smiley Smile and is on a roll. Now he wants Wild Honey, Friends, 20/20. Ooops, sorry can't help you there. Or a die-hard fan who wants every album reissue?
Liner notes - I don't really care who writes them as long as they are good. But at this point what can they write that we don't already know?
Packaging - Don't care about packaging. A CD will never be the same as a vinyl album cover to me.
What I do wish they would have done was not only all of the albums, but a companion set with all the bonus tracks from the 2-fers remastered and tracks from the GV box that were passed over on MIC.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: We're Together Again (alternate version)
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on: February 23, 2014, 09:16:51 AM
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First off - I love We're Together Again, it's one of my favorites from the late 60's Brian period. Second, for any of your who haven't heard a pedal steel with fuzz, it wasn't that uncommon - for example Sneaky Pete Kleinow of the Flying Burrito Brothers used it all the time.
I'm a huge country rock fan of the late 60's/early 70's LA scene and I have to say this countrified version of We're Together Again doesn't touch the original.
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