I'm one of those guys from 61-62 and it is simply TBB. What I don't like is people slamming any one member at the expense of another. And, let's face it, its either BW or ML. Both had their faults but I love the band. When the first songs that you fell in love with were about surfing and cars, how could it get better. That's why I live in SoCal and drive Vettes.

Thou shalt not bear false witness against Brian

Reading this thread makes me realize how little I know about music.

One of my favorite parts of SC was the deep bass. Its gone from the MIC set.

thanks guitarfool....sorry

Maybe not 'puppets' per se, but it's hard to deny that for some of the group's best work, Brian essentially used the Beach Boys' voices as instruments (and in some cases, only his own), just as he did with the musicians he worked with.

That said, whoever said there were 5 geniuses in the Beach Boys, I think I agree with them. I mean, in their own way. Carl and Al were legit vocalists, and later, great & unique producers. I think Mike has proven he's an excellent songwriter and frontman. Dennis was a straight-up musical genius.

But only Brian was able to bring it together for the real magic. Let's not forget that.







Exactly right. On all points.

Well said Donny.... You give all the Boys proper props while putting Brian up at the front where he belongs.

Gotta get that Brian is God dig in there huh?

I heard that BAD wants to be a part of anything that happens.

God some guys hate ML

Don't need to say much more

Would this be the same Steve Love?

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/25012/EX-BEACH-BOYS-MANAGER-SENTENCED-IN-THEFT.html

Interesting. I never knew that.
But still

BUT STILL !!!!!!!! Please

Would this be the same Steve Love?

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/25012/EX-BEACH-BOYS-MANAGER-SENTENCED-IN-THEFT.html

God some guys hate ML

They needed a third party manager and they failed to do that.  Someone suggested a Neil Aspinall type, but wasn't he a back-office figure, important though he was? I don't think either Brian or Mike BB management are ready for the big leagues in terms of concert promotion, either. Mike's management is good at securing gigs at a more down-market position. Brian's management is good at getting him press and getting him substantial plaudits such as the Kennedy Center Honors, which is great, but they've never managed to break him out into large venues, apart from some large gigs in his hometown of LA.  He's even had some gigs that sold poorly, and the venues weren't that large.

I'm thinking more of someone who would represent both Brian and Mike's interests equally, along with the rest of the band members, and push them to a higher level. You know, sort of an Irving Azoff type, a real big leaguer. But maybe both sides don't want to give up control to someone such as that.

Just wondering how much energy 70+ year old guys have to get involved in something like this. I think they are all very well off and let's face it, they have been idolized for 50 years. What else do you need?

Funny thing, I'm simply a BB fan. ALL of them, Since 1962

"ML: I learned that when you do the best job that you can do, some people will idolize you, others won't care and some will vilify you. I believe it is important to remain humble and thankful for the blessings in our lives, for the tremendous opportunities that are a result of our musical success."

22 pages and counting

"ML: I learned that when you do the best job that you can do, some people will idolize you, others won't care and some will vilify you. I believe it is important to remain humble and thankful for the blessings in our lives, for the tremendous opportunities that are a result of our musical success."

22 pages and counting

Wow, 18 pages and counting.

"ML: I learned that when you do the best job that you can do, some people will idolize you, others won't care and some will vilify you. I believe it is important to remain humble and thankful for the blessings in our lives, for the tremendous opportunities that are a result of our musical success."

"ML: I learned that when you do the best job that you can do, some people will idolize you, others won't care and some will vilify you. I believe it is important to remain humble and thankful for the blessings in our lives, for the tremendous opportunities that are a result of our musical success."


From this we have devolved into 13 pages of he said this, he said that.

 After all, BW getting his way only gave us the best music of his career, like PS.



Damn right. The great BW should be given free reign to compose and direct TBB. His brilliance and strong leadership skills will enable TBB to get back on top recording new material that hits number one on all charts. The evil that is ML will be relegated to being a backup bit player forever screeching in interviews, fallacies and falsehoods concerning the real God in the band.

Well its so great Mike took control from the those druggie Wilsons and outsiders like VDP/Tony Asher to keep the fun,fun,fun alive.

The BBs were honestly a living corpse of a band under Mikes's control from 1980-1998.

Damn right. I was enjoying the copious body of work produced by BAD throughout that time frame and reveling in the memories.

Yep, I think that ML should just suck it up and invite BW, AJ, and DM to join his touring group. He can give any money that he makes to BAD and make sure that they are well taken care of. Who the hell does he think he is? he should sacrifice his life for TBB. How dare he keep the band alive for 50+ years, all the while providing a large source of revenue for BRI. The unmitigated gall of someone to say that he hated to see people destroy their lives, NOT TO MENTION A BAND, through addiction. It's that pisspoor attitude that many people resent him for and I can see that he must change.

In that light, I am switching my allegiance to BAD. I'm getting a tatoo of the cover of Postcard From California across my chest; I'm memorizing the lyrics to Smile, and I think I'm in love with DM. Now I'm feeling better and I am in tune with the world again. Maybe I'll even vote Democratic in the next  election. I'm so pleased with myself.

Seems like all I do anymore is defend ML.

 Imagine that you are a member of a pro football team and you have a hell of a chance to make it to the Superbowl. Halfway through the season, your star running back, Dennis Jones starts missing practice, showing up for games after being up all night. His performance begins to suffer. You and your teammates pick up the slack but now, your quarterback  Brian Smith, decides that he doesn't want to play any away games. Your second string quarterback takes up the role but now your wide receiver, Carl Adams,  decides that he should experiment a little more with mind altering stuff so that he can see the ball better.

After a while, you realize that what could have been just isn't going to happen. Time to take the reins  of your own destiny and get some good quality people who, although good, can't quite match the original players.  You keep playing football and do the best you can with what you have. Yeah, you would love to have your old teammates back on your team, but two have gotten out of football altogether and the last expects to come back to the team as though nothing has happened and expects you to change the team you have assembled to better suit him.

I've seen TBB in all their interations for over 50 years and each has it's strengths and weaknesses. I watched John Cowsill  on the current tour and loved his singing and the energy he brings to the group. He may not sound exactly like others who may have sung a song but if you've had the good fortune to watch him in person, you realize he gives 110% and sounds fantastic.

The mixes don't carry the same bass as before. On other versions of the song, the lowest notes rattle the walls when I play it. The MIC mix sounds muted and "Off."

Thanks

BTW, the 2 white bottles are a fire suppression system and a NOX bottle. Its a 66 Coupe with a 496, about 650 HP and a 150 shot.

Trying to post a picture but not having a lot of luck.