The Beatles Survivor #7 Winner: ELEANOR RIGBY

[pixletwin]

As it stands now:

Bird has 6
Tomorrow has 6
No One has 3
Sleep and Here both have 1.

Next NEW vote for either Bird or Tomorrow will decide the round.

VOTE VOTE VOTE!!!

[bringahorseinhere?]

 

[Emily]

Neither should be eliminated at this stage. I actually prefer AYBCS, but think tomorrow is more significant so will say AYBCS.

[RangeRoverA1]

You're kidding? What does it matter if it's significant. If you prefer AYBCS, save it. This is about least favorite track, not the significance & other rubbish.

[Emily]

It's complicated. I like some really bad music. I also like some really simple music. Some music, I like just because it's fun. But I like those things as disposables. I could easily do without any of it and replace it with something else just as fun or whatever. Other music, I like in a deeper, more satisfactory way. And it's really important to me. I think Tomorrow was an essential stepping stone for that, while AYBCS is more disposable, pretty as that one line is and fun as the guitars are.

[RangeRoverA1]

Yes I see you're very complicated. So this is about stepping stone, right. Not actual preference.

[Emily]

Yes. A preference may not be a favorite. I mean, take ABBA. I may prefer to listen to ABBA song X to  "Surf's Up" on a day to day basis. Because Surf's Up can be a little much - it requires my full attention and I can't dance to it.  But if ABBA song X became unavailable forever, for some reason, it would not affect me much. I'll just listen to ABBA song Y instead.  But if Surf's Up vanished off the earth, I'd have a bit of a meltdown. Because when I do listen to it, it's important.

[RangeRoverA1]

Your words "I actually prefer AYBCS". Why not go with "Tomorrow" then? I really don't get it.

[Emily]

Your words "I actually prefer AYBCS". Why not go with "Tomorrow" then? I really don't get it.

I explained further above.

[RangeRoverA1]

But this is game. These songs will not vanish. You can easily go listen "Tomorrow". What's the problem if you prefer AYBCS? Pick TNK.

[Emily]

Now I'm listening to them. I really like the "of the beginning" part of TNK. It makes the song satisfying.

[RangeRoverA1]

& what's the consensus? Now suddenly you prefer - read prefer, not stepping stone stuff! - TNK after saying you like AYBCS?

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

Please quit taking this so seriously.It's just a game.

And if this helps decide things...my vote goes for And Your Bird Can Sing. TNK is one of my 10 favorite songs by anybody.

[RangeRoverA1]

We discuss, I try to figure out why tell stepping stone matters. Is it bad question? Emily said she prefers AYBCS but thinks "Tomorrow" is more important so she saves it. BUT THIS IS NOT about importance of music. It's about PREFERENCE.

Can't believe. Of ALL people single me out. I can't even discuss things. I didn't insult anybody. Your vote doesn't count because Emily was 1st. I still wait for explanation from her.

[Emily]

Goodness. I really didn't mean to start a kerfluffle. Simply, in an easy, fun way, I prefer AYBCS, but I take tomorrow more seriously as part of an important body of music. So in that way, I prefer tomorrow. If I were to pick a real favorite, all things considered, it would be tomorrow because it has more significance to me.
I shouldn't have said anything, of course.

[RangeRoverA1]

Goodness. I really didn't mean to start a kerfluffle.

Yes, but you did start it. It could be avoided if you just said "If I were to pick a real favorite, all things considered, it would be tomorrow because it has more significance to me." Without this stepping stone super-duper important stuff.

& I disagree & tbh, don't get your logic. If you like lightweight song & prefer it, what does it matter if the other song you like a bit less is important? That's mind-boggling, really. If I like fun-not fun songs - THAT'S my preference. F.ex. I REALLY-REALLY-REALLY like "At My Window" - BEST BBs song. If it stood against "Surf's Up", I'll EASILY pick AMW & wouldn't care less about importance-significance of the latter.

[Emily]

Goodness. I really didn't mean to start a kerfluffle.

Yes, but you did start it. It could be avoided if you just said "If I were to pick a real favorite, all things considered, it would be tomorrow because it has more significance to me." Without this stepping stone super-duper important stuff.

& I disagree & tbh, don't get your logic. If you like lightweight song & prefer it, what does it matter if the other song you like a bit less is important? That's mind-boggling, really. If I like fun-not fun songs - THAT'S my preference. F.ex. I REALLY-REALLY-REALLY like "At My Window" - BEST BBs song. If it stood against "Surf's Up", I'll EASILY pick AMW & wouldn't care less about importance-significance of the latter.

Indeed. I didn't think through the impact of my off-the-cuff comment. I apologize.

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

Can't believe. Of ALL people single me out. I can't even discuss things. I didn't insult anybody. Your vote doesn't count because Emily was 1st. I still wait for explanation from her.

I'm not singling you out at all. I was basically saying to relax and not take it so seriously. I wasn't even directing it at anybody specifically.

I shouldn't have said anything, of course.

Nah...you're as entitled to your own views and opinions as much as anybody here. And for the record , I get your reasoning.  If someone had asked me to pick what the better song was between Lahaina Aloha and In the Back of My Mind, I'd *easily* pick the latter. If they'd ask me which I prefer, I'd easily pick the *former*. If it was an elimination styled thread like this one, though, I'd have to seriously think about it and it would not be so easy at all.

[bringahorseinhere?]

i hear what Emily is saying, i think i understand what she means.  
it's like comparing 'surfin usa' to 'cabinessence'.  which is better?
surfin usa for it's simple catchy melody and great vocals, or cabinessence
for its full luster of harmonies and vocal parts and intricate arrangements.
your gonna get two sides to that, simple verses complex.
these Beatles songs are difficult to throw out, cause they are so good!
 

[RangeRoverA1]

2Emily: Apology accepted. Next time be more blunt, without these cloudy explanations.

2Billy: OK. Regarding your reply to Emily, I did not, obviously, say she shouldn't be entitled to her opinioins but she wasn't very clear & I asked she clarifies. Which is what our dialog really was about. Nobody took it seriously, not from my side definitely.

NOW, back to topic, folks!

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

i hear what Emily is saying, i think i understand what she means. 
it's like comparing 'surfin usa' to 'cabinessence'.  which is better?
surfin usa for it's simple catchy melody and great vocals, or cabinessence
for its full luster of harmonies and vocal parts and intricate arrangements.
your gonna get two sides to that, simple verses complex.
these Beatles songs are difficult to throw out, cause they are so good!
 

You made my point a whole lot better than I was  able to!

[RangeRoverA1]

i hear what Emily is saying, i think i understand what she means.  
it's like comparing 'surfin usa' to 'cabinessence'.  which is better?
surfin usa for it's simple catchy melody and great vocals, or cabinessence
for its full luster of harmonies and vocal parts and intricate arrangements.
your gonna get two sides to that, simple verses complex.
these Beatles songs are difficult to throw out, cause they are so good!

I didn't read it like that. In your case, you can't choose between the 2. In Emily's, she knew right away what to choose but didn't say, instead went on some tangent about stepping stone being deciding point etc.

Taste is subjective. Everybody knows. We musn't be objective about taste & think about some song's importance. Preference is preference. Btw, even that objectivitity regarding TNK's significance is quite subjective. Your significance is my "pretentious song albeit with great Ringo drumming". Yep, that's what I say about TNK.

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

In Emily's, she knew right away what to choose but didn't say, instead went on some tangent about stepping stone being deciding point etc.

 

She DID choose..she said

Neither should be eliminated at this stage. I actually prefer AYBCS, but think tomorrow is more significant so will say AYBCS.

[RangeRoverA1]

She said she ACTUALLY prefers AYBCS. But then weirdly still voted against it. Preference is one thing. Significance (TNK) is different. Which is what I tried to clarify. Why it must be shut. I asked valid question. Why not leave it at that & let us discuss it further? It doesn't hurt really.

[pixletwin]

Neither should be eliminated at this stage. I actually prefer AYBCS, but think tomorrow is more significant so will say AYBCS.

Thank you for breaking the tie.

This is the album I consider to be the end of the Beatles v.1 (i.e. the moptops).

Revolver is the seventh studio album by the English rock band the Beatles. It was released on 5 August 1966 in the United Kingdom and three days later in the United States. The album was the Beatles' final recording project before they retired from performing concerts and marked a progression on their 1965 release Rubber Soul in terms of the group's readiness to experiment in the recording studio. The album's diverse sounds include the incorporation of tape loops and backwards recordings on the psychedelic "Tomorrow Never Knows", a classical string octet on "Eleanor Rigby", and Indian-music backing on "Love You To". Reduced to eleven songs for the North American market, where three of its tracks instead appeared on the June 1966 release Yesterday and Today, Revolver was the last Beatles album to be subjected to Capitol Records' policy of altering the band's intended running order and content. More at wikipedia.com

Spotify link: https://open.spotify.com/album/3PRoXYsngSwjEQWR5PsHWR

17 votes spread across 4 songs.
After your bird has sung, 7 smilers are asking that it leave the table and got to the Loser's Lounge.  


Per the usual, vote off your LEAST FAVORITE.

Tally on April 29.

Taxman
Eleanor Rigby
I'm Only Sleeping
Here, There and Everywhere
For No One
Tomorrow Never Knows

Round#1 Love You To April 10
Round#2 Yellow Submarine April 12
Round#3 I Want To Tell You April 15
Round#4 Doctor Robert April 18
Round#5 Good Day Sunshine April 20
Round#6 Got To Get You Into My Life April 22
Round#7 She Said She Said April 24
Round#8 And Your Bird Can Sing April 27


I would like to see the top 3 for this album be a battle between John, Paul, and George.

So I will vote off Here There and Everywhere.

Vote!

 

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The Beatles Survivor #2 Winner: ALL MY LOVING
The Beatles Survivor #3 Winner: IF I FELL
The Beatles Survivor #4 Winner: NO REPLY
The Beatles Survivor #5 Winner: HELP!
The Beatles Survivor #6 Winner: IN MY LIFE