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Thought I might as well start a thread to discuss a new My Music PBS special that is being hosted by Mike entitled Summer, Surf and Beach Music We Love. This is a clip show featuring vintage videos by the Beach Boys, Jan & Dean, etc. Looks like an interesting watch.

But perhaps more interesting for us BB fanatics are the “Thank You” gifts offered by making a donation to a PBS station, including one of the most fascinating Beach Boys hits compilations I have ever seen: Summer Favorites. Its track listing, via WETA (http://"https://www.callswithoutwalls.com/pledgecart/"):

1. California Girls
2. I Get Around
3. Surfer Girl
4. Wouldn’t It Be Nice
5. Summer Means New Love
6. Goin’ To The Beach
7. Little Deuce Coupe
8. God Only Knows
9. Still Cruisin’
10. Surfin’ USA
11. Summer In Paradise
12. The Warmth Of The Sun
13. Barbara Ann
14. California Feelin’
15. Fun, Fun, Fun
16. Island Girl
17. Don’t Worry Baby
18. Somewhere Near Japan
19. Good Vibrations
20. Summer Of Love
21. Kokomo
22. Surf’s Up
23. Wipe Out – with The Fat Boys
24. Happy Endings – with Little Richard
25. All Summer Long (a cappella version)

This is unbelievable. Most of the ’80s tracks from Still Cruisin’. “California Feelin’.” “Summer of Love” sequenced merely two tracks before “Surf’s Up.” And what I believe to be the CD debut of “Happy Endings.” What a disc.

(https://secure2.convio.net/weta/images/content/pagebuilder/SummerSurfCD156.jpg)

EDIT: Corrected track list here: http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,24281.msg587740.html#msg587740

That is such a weird track listing...

If the audio quality is good, could be a worthwhile pick-up for those 80's tracks. Particularly if it is the single version of Somewhere near Japan, but I don't suppose it will be.

If you'll allow me to be quite cynical, I assume those would be songs that Mike has a bigger songwriting/publishing percentage of.

This is a fake, isn't it? I can't believe anyone with a brain would put such an awful collection together. 

Sounds way to good to be true.

Whoever thought of this is one sick puppy.

Here's a link to the 5-CD set at "Give to NPT":

https://secure.wnpt.org/index/summer-surf-beach-music-we-love-5-cd-set.2136085?tab=gift&view=detail

A Mike Love triple shot...

Good Vibrations
Rockin' The Man In The Boat
Happy Endings

I once knew someone who liked "Happy Endings". In fact it led me to decipher the lyrics, which were nowhere to be found at the time. All corrections welcome:


"Bring them back, bring them back
Bring them back, wee ooo
Bring them back

"Bring back happy endings
Where the good guys always win
Give me Santa and the Easter Bunny
Make me smile again

"Bring back happy endings
Where the good guys always win
Like Peter Pan in Never Never Land, oh yeah
Make me smile again

"(We'll) send all the tears away
Bring them back to yesterday
We'll learn to laugh again
I can see the bad times end

"You love happy endings
Then let's go back once more
And dream a lot of Camelot
The way it was before

"Look through the children's eyes
And life becomes a lullaby
Send all the tears away   
Bring them back to yesterday

"Bring them back, back
Bring them back, back
Bring them back, back
Bring them back, back

"Bring back happy endings
Where the good guys always win
And Santa and the Easter Bunny
Make me smile again

"Bring them back, wee ooo
Bring them back
Bring them back, wee ooo
Bring them back
Bring back happy endings
Bring back happy endings"

  We haven't seen an oddball collection like this in many years.

   I can see why "Happy Endings" was passed over for STILL CRUISIN'.

Seems like Help Me Rhonda and Do It Again had to make room for Goin' to the Beach and Summer of Love. Wow. Kudos for including California Feelin', though!

Running on Wednesday, Aug. 31 at 9 p.m. in Atlanta

Truly bizarre.

Has the a capella All Summer Long been released before?  I'm blanking on this question.

Why this wasn't included on one of the other four CDs is beyond me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0G6gbHpiEA

It’s on the digital-only Keep An Eye On Summer release from 2014.

Strange that Summer of Love is on here.

 :lol :lol :lol

It's a Love thing.

That's actually a pretty cool collection, and I know that I'd be helping PBS, but $156 is pretty steep.

Damn. I'd love to have Happy Endings on CD, but I'm not paying $156 for it.

Mike must have insisted that Summer of Love be included in order for him to appear.

I'll probably see if this shows up on Amazon Marketplace at some point. 

Big Bird charges way too much for these pledge incentives.

At least the Brian Wilson Soundstage DVD/BluRay was moderately priced last year. 

I don't believe this has been linked yet:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqeN02fwOwY

NOoooooooo IT´s THE END OF THE WORLD

STILL CRUISIN APPEARS ON A ALBUM THAT¨S NOT THE COLLECTION OF SPAIN.

Me tendre que conformar, antes o luego tenia que pasar.

Unfortunate that this is the stuff that BRI (and Capitol) are wasting their time on instead of opening up the archives.

Yes unfortunately you are right! I like to see happy Endings being put on the album though! But thats not enought to get me to pay $156. maybe it would if there was something from the vaults that we havent heard before!

Really though, "Happy Endings" isn't one of their better moments. Plus, it was on one of those 57 volumes of Dumb Angel "Rarities", there are a bunch of versions of it on YouTube, and it looks like you can buy the original 45 record for $5-$10.

Thankfully, when a similar thing came up back when they put "East Meets West" on that Four Seasons boxed set, I had so little Four Seasons stuff on CD that I went ahead and picked that set up not specifically for the BB track. Truth be told, it's not like the version of "East Meet West" on that set sounded a million times better than the (presumably) vinyl rip on one of those "Rarities" sets.

I think this is a somewhat disrespectful comment. This release was made to support a pledge drive that shares the music with a wide audience and helps fund public broadcasting (which I would argue is for the public good). It’s not like it’s some contrived, redundant compilation designed to line store shelves. I hardly think their support of this special is a waste of their time, especially considering the CD release looks more “signed off on” than meticulously planned/organized by BRI.  

Well, just saw this. It was Mike introducing a bunch of various music videos, beginning and ending with BBs videos. Highlight for me was the Dick Dale performance. Was nice and relaxing overall. Of course there were the several pledge breaks but that's just the way it is.
Not sure if I'll get the CDs. Am already a member of PBS and give monthly (less than 13 dollars per, though). But I don't have but a couple of the songs on the 4 non-Beach Boys CDs so maybe?

I suspected someone might point out that the item is for a pledge drive. I don't think there's anything "disrespectful" in my comments. Cynical perhaps, but not disrespectful.

First of all, it veers into an OT area, but I feel that PBS shouldn't have to do pledge drives and should be fully funded by the government. If politicians and citizens feel it's worth *partially* funding, then it should be worth fully funding. Additionally, they shouldn't have to offer lavish, sometimes bloated gift packages in return for pledges. They end up then, of course, not even being able to use all of the money to put towards their station and instead have to put a bunch of the money towards procuring, processing, and shipping pledge perks. People do have the option of donating *without* accepting any gifts of course. Obviously, they would receive far fewer pledges if they didn't offer the gifts.

I suppose a better way for me to put it would have been that it's unfortunate that BRI and Capitol seem to be willing to put MORE time into ramshackle, off-kilter compilations (I mean, if you *were* going to program a compilation for the "average" fan, would you put stuff like "Summer of Love" and "Wipe Out" on it?) than they do in opening up the archives which would raise the profile of the band and provide fans with some quality product, which would be a win-win for everybody.

BRI and Capitol could have easily just offered "Sounds of Summer" or some other compilation as the "Beach Boys" component of this pledge package. That they appear to have actually *SPENT TIME AND EFFORT* selecting and clearing this partially odd selection of songs is what is disappointing in light of *not* opening their archives in a more substantial fashion. I doubt they spent a ton of time selecting these songs and signing off on it, but *someone* selected these songs and made sure everything was cleared, and I'm guessing it was Mike and/or BRI at some point in the process. That they have more enthusiasm for one of these PBS clip jobs (which I often enjoy, don't get me wrong) and a tossed-off weird compilation to accompany it than they do for spearheading a "Live from the Archives" program or deluxe sets for "Sunflower" or "Surf's Up", is what is disappointing.

And, if BRI and Capitol want to get behind PBS, how about this: Compile a career-spanning compilation of live concert footage of the band, sell *that* to PBS to air during pledge drives, and offer a Blu-ray and/or DVD of *that* (and perhaps other rare BB items, along with a "Sounds of Summer" CD for good measure) as the pledge gift.

HJ,

Funny you mention SOS.

About a month or two ago, a local PBS station here was showing the Knebworth concert from 1980, and was offering the DVD and Sounds of Summer as gifts for pledges. 

I was going to mention in my previous post that my recollection was that PBS had indeed used the Brother-owned "Live at Knebworth 1980" show as a pledge item. Creating content like that which can then be sold to fans as well as used for pledge drives and whatnot would seem much more ideal.

But again, this new pledge CD is not a cause of anything, but more simply a symptom of bad management at BRI. It's pretty clear that it's *not* as if something else would have materialized had they not signed off on this PBS CD. This new CD, along with other recent releases, shows that clearly BRI has the ability to function as an entity that puts out newly-conceived BB product. So they have the time and ability, but no apparent desire to do something more substantial with their archives. Meanwhile, tons of other bands are putting out "Immersion" style boxed sets focused on albums, numerous live DVD/Blu-ray releases from the archives, archival downloads, etc.

Yeah, I'll agree with that. 

On the plus side, BRI is probably working on another way to sell us Pet Sounds again. 

I would definitely say the comment is disrespectful to BRI. BRI’s main responsibility is not servicing hardcore fans; there are other aspects and responsibilities of sharing the Beach Boys’ legacy. Is approving the licensing of a song for a movie a “waste” of BRI’s time? I imagine there’s a lot going on in the ongoing operations of BRI. I would not say participating in this project is indicative of poor management. They are currently taking part in their second “flagship” archival release this year with the release of Becoming the Beach Boys this Friday. Participating in the pledge drive is smart; they make money on a new release without cannibalizing the sales of flagship archival releases and while sharing the music with a broader audience. Not that “Wipe Out” is going to help bring in new fans.

Way OT...
Yeah, cos nothing says legitimate non-biased reporting like GOVERNMENT FUNDING. AM I Right?!
If people wanted to fund it, they would. Its not virtuous to force people to support things they disagree with. If you enjoy PBS, pay for it. For me PBS is as bad as CNN or FOX, although at least those organizations don't pretend to be nonprofits who don't take advertising money. LOL

This is meant to be a democracy. If you don't feel the government should pay for PBS then you can organize people and try to get that to change. If we can't make change through democratic means because there is too much support going the other way, then we have to accept that part of being a grown-up means having to sometimes participate in things that we don't want to with the knowledge that someday other people will have to participate in something we support that that they don't want to. Learning to compromise is a crucial part of being an adult.

I simply largely disagree.

BRI obviously owes no fiduciary duty to fans of any sort, hardcore or otherwise.

What some fans including myself have tried to do is not simply make lists of stuff *I* want from them, but rather look with some objectivity at what they could be doing that would be better for *all* concerned.

Doing a nice archival program would be good for BRI, good for the band's legacy/reputation/cred, and of course good for fans.

BRI has continually shown generally poor management in all aspects. The cool stuff that *does* come out only happens due to either copyright extention issues and folks *outside* of BRI doing their best to champion what little they can accomplish within the confines of what BRI and Capitol are willing to issue (Alan Boyd, etc.)  The stuff they green light usually has to have some *external* factor instigating it. The "MIC" set was meant to accompany C50. The old GV set was meant to mark 30 years. The "EH" soundtrack was meant to accompany a film. The "Hallmark" CD happened because Hallmark asked for it. The "Hawthorne, CA" set began life as a freebie giveaway disc meant to accompany a "Greatest Hits" CD package. The "Copyright Extension" releases and their impetus are of course obvious.

The point is that rarely is there someone *within* BRI simply saying "Hey, this stuff is good and the band and the brand and the fans would all benefit by putting some of this stuff out", with no other prompting other than the inherent quality and value of the archive itself.

I'm not saying they shouldn't tie stuff into whatever they can from a marketing point of view. That only can help. But the impetus should, at least sometimes and as a general rule, be someone at BRI pointing out the inherent value of the stuff.

Not only has a lack of a substantive archival program shown a lack of management and/or vision, the *horrible* PR issues surrounding the *brand* perhaps most clearly show bad management. The Beatles/Apple model/comparison is apt here. McCartney and Yoko Ono have as many, if not more, reasons to not get along and be at odds as Brian and Mike (or Al and Mike) do. Yet, they've managed to unify the brand. They cross-promote solo and group stuff.

Meanwhile, Mike insults Brian in interviews, Mike casts shade on Brian's album and film, they don't particularly cross-promote their product (Al is on board for Brian stuff because he's a part of it of course, while Bruce has no real social media presence), and so on.

It's interesting that licensing songs for films has come up, because that's something I recall Howie Edelson mentioning was a huge missed opportunity during the 2012 reunion. They should have been doing more advertising tie-ins and pushing songs from the new album to films (I think "Spring Vacation" was the one Howie mentioned back then as a good idea). *I* don't care as a fan too much about cheesy advertising tie-ins and songs I already own appearing in some sh***y movie, but it would be good for the "brand", and as the "brand" thrives, there's more momentum and resources to do the stuff that fans would like as well.

"Becoming the Beach Boys" is a great and important set to have, but I see no evidence that it's indicative of an ongoing archival program. It looks to me more like some folks who see the importance of the tapes have done a lot of the groundwork to get BRI to put it out, and perhaps BRI also realizes it's better to get it out in an authorized fashion considering other parties have been recently trying to release more of the tapes through shady means.

If the other "flagship" product you're talking about is the PS anniversary set, then that was a pretty big disappointment as well. We all knew such a set was coming, and I have no problem with it. It's basically a repackaging/remarketing/rebranding of the 20-year-old set with some new bits thrown in. It's good to have available, but it's not to be commended as some groundbreaking opening of the vaults.

These two projects aren't really even related to each other. The "Becoming" set is all tapes owned by BRI and licensed to Omnivore. The "PS" set is a Capitol product, no doubt signed off and contributed to by BRI by way of the scant bonus material.

If you add up all of the items released over the last 20 years, there's some great and substantial material there. I'm glad to have it all, even something seemingly nobody was asking for like the well-made but headscratch-inducing "Party" 2-CD set. Again, stuff like "Becoming", or the scant bonus material that *did* make it on the PS set, or the "Party" set or other "Copyright Extension" sets are the result of those who care about this stuff like Alan Boyd doing *as much as they can* within the confines of the project at hand.

There's nothing bad about these releases.

A PBS pledge drive item is innocuous at worst. It's not a big deal. But it's not an example of good brand management or any sort of unified management behind this band. It indicates nobody is behind the scenes sort of "workshopping" lots of cool releases for a willing BRI.

I suggest taking any political PBS stuff to the Sandbox. I don't really care too much and my comments were meant to pertain to the BRI point of view rather than PBS. I was simply explaining why the idea of a "pledge drive" wasn't in my opinion a mechanism with which to make people feel guilty for questioning.

As it turns out, balking at pledge drives is something that occurs with both people who love and loathe PBS.

Not to mention the sorry excuses for live product after the 2012 reunion.  A big reunion like The Beach Boys, and we got a documentary teaser with some live tracks.  A slap dash DVD with about 40% of a concert.  And a very poorly produced 2 CD set that only included a small handful of B&W photos in the booklet. 

So many other legacy artists put out live product after almost every major tour these days. 

I'm hoping we get a good document of Brian's Pet Sounds Tour, but seeing that Brian Wilson and Friends was recently widely released, I'm not really counting on it. 

Some good points, HeyJude. I really enjoy your posts.

You have to know that this must have at least in part been because of the majorly sour feelings after the tour ended. There would have been no band member giving many actual f*cks to make a nicer release happen. No, I have no actual evidence of this, but it seems pretty obvious that this was *a* factor.

(YOU CAN SEND THIS TO THE SANDBOX, but its my last comment on this) Yeah, so according to you, following and agreeing to the whims of the masses is being an adult. Having principles...not so much. Ehh....Also this is meant to be a republic, not a democracy. Rule of Law, not rule by mob.
You want to compromise your principles to just get along? Great. You do that. And you can even call that being an adult.
Don't expect others do the same.

I'm glad that your last word was making up my argument and arguing against that. For those interested in what I actually said, you can read the quote. At that point if you want to engage in Sandbox I'll be happy to.

I'm sure that was a factor.  And I think to a certain extent that having a really well done live Beach Boys product with Brian, Al, and David on it couldn't caused some confusion about the 2013 touring band. 

But, one would've thought, knowing that going into 2012 it was a one album, one tour deal, some foresight would've went into planning for a nice live package.  Maybe even pairing with a big box store for exclusive distribution like The Police did with their live reunion CD/DVD set. 

Would have been nice. But I think part of why that didn't happen (with foresight) is that many people were wondering just how the tour was even going to go. Remember back at the start of the tour some people thought that Brian wouldn't make it through the tour, some hypothesized that he'd have some emotional breakdown and quit a few dates in.  Maybe some folks within the band were also not sure how things were going to turn out, and wanted to wait and see how things played out before putting the cart before the horse with planning a big live package. And when the reunion was apparently doomed from the start, being that Mike seemingly felt hugely slighted going back to the earliest parts of the reunion (writing of the album), foresight just wasn't gonna happen.

Getting back on topic, while this a VERY weird and truly baffling compilation, I'm glad these oddball tracks are being re-released (and newly digitally released). I wonder if the mastering will be new and improved, and if the '80s Still Cruisin' track will sound better than ever before. I just wish they would give that treatment to "Make it Big"! Such an underrated '80s BB track.

Regarding C50 products (live audio and video), I get the sense that the lack of anything better subsequently appearing has been due to a mixture of the obvious fallout when C50 ended (does anyone think Mike wants to put a high profile reunion product from 2012 on the market right now?) as well as potentially the sketchy nature of some of the companies that were putting together some of the video releases.

Remember this?:

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,16156.msg391431.html#msg391431

I believe the folks who were trying to put together the eventually-canceled "crowd funded" C50 project were also involved in the previous C50 video releases.

For all we know, even with a perfectly legit company trying to put something together, any C50 project after 2012 would have been nixed by one or more BRI members.

I can also only guess, and let me stress this is just a guess, that any C50 product that might still benefit Joe Thomas is something that Mike wouldn't have a lot of interest in backing.

It's ironic that it's potentially *easier* for the band to agree to release ancient live recordings from decades ago while their huge tour from only four years ago might encounter huge roadblocks in terms of future releases.

One of the reasons I've hoped for an online "Live from the Archives" series is that we could potentially get some C50 material that way, where it would be more low key.

I think a live anthology is the best bet for a full C50 show also.  Either that, or maybe a release once Mike and Bruce's Beach Boys are no longer touring.  I don't see any chance of a Beach Boys C50 live product hitting shelves now.  It could create some confusion with the current group.  Heck, four years later, some venues still use the C50 publicity photos to promote Mike and Bruce shows. 

There is still a Live at the Hollywood Bowl video that may already be completely mixed, edited, and ready for release that has mysteriously never come out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7Mg8_HOIiw

Maybe one day as part of a live anthology.  But, I doubt we'll see any stand alone C50 releases while there's a version of The Beach Boys on the road. 

Agreed, and that is really, really sad.

 :P To borrow a song title, Strange world...

that´s it´s te thing  that the beach boys must release

various cd and dvd including live perfomances

Agree and Some deeper live cuts not just fun fun fun, surfin USA and God Only Knows

During the pledge drive segments, I noticed they listed “Do It Again” by Mike Love as one of the songs included in the pledge drive gifts, and they played a brief clip of what sounded like a new recording. Anyone else catch that?

how far was that into the pledge?

I think they had three segments asking for donations and played the clip during the second segment.

Cool! I didnt get to hear it. I think my PBS is blacked out right now for some reason! I was really disappointing does anyone know if it is available online or on the pbs website?

After the 2011 rerecording of "Do It Again", I'm hard pressed to think of a more useless, redundant idea than to rerecord it AGAIN.

Perhaps it's this?  It says Adrian Baker but it has Mike on lead vocals. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUUPw2PdXaQ

Are those CD's or 8-tracks?   :lol

I don��’t think it was the Adrian Baker recording. What I heard sounded fuller production-wise and it seemed to actually rock. But who knows, it could be. I only heard the clip once, and it was probably less than 10 seconds long.

Shot in the dark, but could they have used the C50 version? 

Possible, but not sure why they credited it to Mike Love. What’s strange is that “Do It Again” by any performer isn’t listed in the track listings of any of the 5 CDs, at least according to the information on WETA’s pledge website.

True.  Maybe they used a live version from a recent Beach Boys show, and can't call it "The Beach Boys."  Very odd that it wouldn't be on any of the CDs though. 

I have the special sitting on my DVR, so I might catch it this weekend.

I caught this special a few nights ago, it was on around midnight on one of the local PBS stations. For a PBS "special", there wasn't much of interest or new beyond a chance to listen to a mix tape of summer related songs. The videos were mostly the usual, whatever could be licensed to use and in some cases were either ones most fans of any of these groups would have seen. More disappointing - though I know there are usage and license (financial) concerns - is that some of the clips were poor representations of the various artists and songs back in the 60's, and are still pretty poor today. It's fun to see the bands and artists in their prime, but the obvious miming and non-interest of the band members isn't something that would be a draw. The Lovin Spoonful was shown in a clip at an amusement park miming to Summer In The City, and the highlights there were seeing Zal trying to break up the other band members as they gamely tried to mouth the words, and also some neat shots taken with a handheld camera on an aerial cable ride where you could see a mid-60's amusement park or carnival in full flight. But the rest were promo clips, some good and some non-essential.

Another example - The Surfaris are shown miming to Wipe Out in a clip shot in what looked like 1966 or 1967, you could tell by the guitars/instruments and the age of the band members. It was a curio, but it wasn't quite in line with what made instrumental surf music what it was at it's best, and it was the band past their prime on one of the "revivals" and rereleases of the Wipe Out single.

One of the few truly live clips, and what I'd call essential, was Eddie Cochran playing Summertime Blues completely live, which stood out among the other clips being synched to remastered versions of the songs. I wish they had more of that, and there are plenty of examples that could have been used had licensing and fees probably not have gotten in the way.

I Get Around was the oft-seen lip-synch of the band miming to the record that got used in the parody "Beach Boys Shred" Youtube clip. So it isn't anything I'd really need to make an appointment to see.

Which, perhaps, is the biggest disappointment. I'm a *big* fan of PBS entertainment and music documentaries, when they get all the parts right and are hitting on all cylinders. Series like "American Masters" can be as good as an entertainment documentary can get, specifically thinking of the ones on Johnny Carson and Bing Crosby. When they literally open the vaults and archives and bring out new and fascinating items and info, I want to keep watching over and over. The Carson one in particular was absolutely terrific, and engrossing.

This one felt like an infomercial, in fact it wouldn't be out of place among any late-night channel surf that finds those 30 minute infomercials for Time-Life and other multi-disc music collections, complete with a 60's celebrity and a lot of lip-synch clips.

Mike really didn't add much to the program, it felt like he was there as a pitchman introducing the clips. That's about all i can say, there was nothing that didn't look like any number of music collection infomercials, and it didn't feel like a PBS production along the lines of the usual high standard they set with their programs.

The CD collection? I don't get it. We could go into the reasons and rationale behind including late 80's Beach Boys cuts, and it's not hard to suss that out considering the whole program itself, but do people going into this buying "classic" summer related songs really want 80's and 90's music on there among the genuine classics? Would the average Joe fan cue up a 1991-92 Beach Boys synth-driven record after cranking the Spoonful and Mungo Jerry, or whatever? I doubt it, which is why this doesn't feel right as a collection. Just another chance to repackage the hits, and add some money into the coffers by tacking on non-essential tracks. I might call it a sales gimmick.

This issue of Do It Again...why not use the original that everyone knows and loves? And has it been determined which "new" remake of the song was used? I must have dozed off when it was heard on the show because I don't remember hearing it.

TJ Lubinsky confirmed on the BSN Stereo board that Mike cut a new version of Do It Again just for this project.

That explains it - But is it billed/labeled as "The Beach Boys" or as another band name on this collection's tracklisting? I didn't even check the full list, but is the original Beach Boys "Do It Again" on this full set as well, or is this remake now replacing it for fans who buy this set?

It’s not listed in any of the track listings I could find for the five CDs, but I’ll report back when I get my set in a couple weeks (I’m a weak man).

Facepalm.

While I'm glad to see any BB member in 2016 cutting music in a studio for any reason, this is just baffling to hear, IMO.

David Marks in 2016 cuts a new version of the overlooked emotional BB powerhouse Cuddle Up, while Mike cuts a new new version of Do It Again, which was already re-recorded and re-released in 2011/2012. Why is this necessary? To remove pesky the Brian Wilson + Al Jardine from the recording or something? Not saying Brian didn't remove BB backing vocals from Soul Searchin', but this seems really, really particularly unnecessary in light of the recent surprisingly good full band DIA remake. Of *all* the BB songs Mike could have remade... why this?

I was even glad to hear Mike's take on Ballad of Ol' Betsy on NASCAR just for the novelty of hearing a studio recording with a different BB lead vocalist on a track. This remake seems more pointless than anything I could possibly think of. Was the 2011 DIA just underwhelming in Mike's eyes, and this was gonna "fix" it?

Yeah he just HAD to erase most talented surviving members due to sour grapes. No other reason. I've always given Mike his due artistically,  but he's been a douche in recent years.

Maybe DO It Again is for his new solo album. I think Mike just really loves the song in this day of age because he is Do(ing) it Again for the 50th Ann of Pet Sounds. Which is the reason why he rerecorded the song agin

But what if he cuts it yet again the year after this? And then twice more the year after that? Would 13 Do it Again remakes in the next 3 years be enough for you to say it's ludicrous?  Has Do It Again become Mike's Shortenin' Bread riff?

At a certain point, let's admit that it's unarguably getting redundant and silly! Everyone must have a breaking point with a certain number of remakes of a given song, especially when the song was recently remade well with the full band (and used specifically as a lyrical/content tie-in to the C50 reunion... this is kinda sh*tting on that too, I might add).

Oh yeah it is tire some hearing another cover of the song he should of done any other song he hasnt redone in the past few years. I do think it is turning in to Mikes obsession like Brians Shortnin Bread.

Heck he will probably rerecord it for the 55th Ann to because he is celebrating an Anniversary again  and he is "Do(ing) It Again" and then again for 60th Ann.

I think that's the point, why is why I'm peeved at the whole thing

Even the C50 remake of the song was largely unnecessary. It was really more of a "testing the waters" scenario for the guys to make sure they could get through a session without the whole thing falling apart. I don't even pull out the C50 version very often; it's a serviceable remake of which 99% of my interest revolved around the novelty of seeing and hearing them together for the first time in ages.

I have no idea why Mike chose this song to re-record yet again, or if his motive has anything to do with s****ing on the C50 flagship recording. That one's impossible to prove; Mike defenders could easily suggest that he just picked a song to re-record and that's that. I'm no longer willing to give Mike the benefit of the doubt on much, but who knows.

I think Mike also either doesn't see irony or doesn't care, because while the C50 tour saw the first time that "Do It Again" was regularly used as the show opener on each and every show, due to the obvious thematic tie-in, he kept opening his post-C50 shows with the song in 2012 and 2013. Of course, he also kept "Isn't It Time" in the setlist for awhile post-C50, and saw no irony in taking a "reunion" recording with the lyrics "the good times never have to end, now's the time to let them happen again" and perform it after leaving the reunion.

It's things like that which make me surprised he doesn't start performing "Brian's Back" in his current setlist. And I'm only half joking!

I actually enjoy the C50 rerecording since it was their first time touring and recording in over 20 years ago. So they were going to "Do It Again" and I like them opening the C50 with it too.

But it does not make since for Mike to rerecord the song in this situation as he did. I can see why he did but redoing it once was good enough. I am sure the majority of the PBS viewers never even knew they rerecorded it in 2012 let alone even know that Brian isnt in the band or has ever left the band. heck they might not even know who the guy is.

There is a far better chance that they wouldn't know who the hell myKe luHv is.  ::)

Majority of the people watching on PBS know who Mike is because he is introducing the videos otherwise the probably dont know who either of them are. It is hard to believe for us hard core fans that they people dont know who any of the memeber are but know them as a surfing band with a few hits of Surfin USA Fun fun fun Good vibrations and Kokomo. Going back to Do It Again. I bet a majority of the average PBS viewers never heard of or remember Do It Again and didnt realize it was a new version by Mike Love from 2016

30-some odd years ago I  saw some program on TV on the BB, and  for years afterwards I just thought of them as the bald guy, the fat guy, and the 'country club' guys. ::)

I know I've had a few laughs about it, but I realize this is the perfect venue for Mike. Since Sesame Street has moved to HBO, they're short a few Muppets.

What doesn't make sense is the concept of this "box set", or even its identity. I can see the concept and a pretty decent market for a good collection of classic summertime hits, I think we've all made and received such mix tapes and CDR's and playlists for decades, and i've gotten some that are very close to some of these new discs in the PBS set.

But what makes no sense is including a remake, a modern remake no less, of a Beach Boys classic summer single, then placing it on a compilation whose "killer app" and sales motivator includes a pretty solid collection of classic 60's Beach Boys singles and summer songs.

How would this be different than PBS doing a "Classic Motown" pledge tie-in, offering a similar music compilation with discs full of classic Motown hits, and instead of the version of "My Girl" or "I Can't Help Myself", they include a modern remake and re-recording by the groups touring as the Temps or the Tops? I don't think fans paying that much for such a collection would be expecting a 2015 remake or anything for that matter which was recut or remade years after the hit record everyone knows.

I'll put the 80's/90's Beach Boys songs aside for a moment, because they don't seem to fit this collection either - They fit as much as one of Chuck Berry's half-assed remakes of Memphis or Johnny B Goode from thelate 60's would fit on an oldies set where people buy this stuff for the familiar versions.

If the market is indeed people who we'd call casual fans, then having any confusion over which versions of these Summer Classics they're buying makes this even more difficult to suss out. I just can't see the decision to place the classic BB singles alongside modern remakes and packaging this as the classics.

I would guess (or at least hope) that the Mike solo track appears on one of the other discs rather than the BB disc. I wouldn't think the others at BRI would sign off on a "Beach Boys" CD with one Mike solo remake of a BB hit. (Yes, I'm aware of the one Brian track on that "Classics" CD last decade, but at least it was an unreleased song). But who knows, maybe BRI doesn't care about this sort of stuff too much.

I was just thinking how *extra* redundant the DIA rererererecording might be if Mike used the touring band. Foskett, Totten, and Cowsill were already on the C50 version. Who knows, maybe he bumped Cowsill to have Stamos drum on it or something.

Stamos has already been pictured adding vocals and drums to Mike's new album.

They were recording a new remake of "Getcha Back" with John Stamos on drums, AFAIK.

But it's still - what's the word, "confusing" - to be mixing remakes with original hit singles on a compilation of classic summer hits. I also wouldn't call the 80's and 90's BB tracks 'classics' in terms of the average listeners who would be buying such a set from a PBS fund drive, and I doubt they're buying this expecting to hear synth-heavy BB singles from the 90's that tanked, or anything that's newer than 40 years old if the set if full of "classics".

Why not put DJ Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince's "Summertime" on there? That's a helluva catchy track and if 90's is on board with a classic summer set, why not?  ;D

So just for the info, I went searching for the actual tracklist of the CD set, and finally found a PBS station which had it posted. This is it - A BB's compilation followed by 4 discs of the summer classics.

Whatever confusion I personally may have had is partially answered by this tracklist - Do It Again appears nowhere on the audio discs. I must have nodded off or simply not heard it during the broadcast, but the Do It Again "remake" was played during the actual show, or was it during the PBS pledge-drive cut in segments? I'm even more curious to track it down now, I'm still confused after finding the actual CD tracklistings and seeing no version of Do It Again.

Yet...on a Beach Boys compilation..."Summer Of Love" is on there instead? One of the worst singles and biggest flops the band ever put its name to makes the cut over Do It Again, which is 100% about the theme of this fundraising campaign for PBS, and 100% about summer and nostalgia?

Someone please help me (or us) figure out WTF is going on. I thought Do It Again was on the discs, but it's obviously not, yet it was apparently played during the show. And it got bumped by any number of non-essential 80's and 90's BB's D-list tracks?

WTF?

Beach Boys Summer Favorites CD + Beach Music Classic 4-CD Set

CD #1  The Beach Boys: Summer Favorites
1.    California Girls
2.    I Get Around
3.     Surfer Girl
4.    Wouldn’t It Be Nice
5.    Summer Means New Love
6.    Goin’ To The Beach
7.    Little Deuce Coupe
8.    God Only Knows
9.    Still Cruisin’
10.    Surfin’ USA
11.    Summer In Paradise
12.    The Warmth Of The Sun
13.    Barbara Ann
14.    California Feelin’
15.    Fun, Fun, Fun
16.    Island Girl
17.    Don’t Worry Baby
18.    Somewhere Near Japan
19.    Good Vibrations
20.    Summer Of Love
21.    Kokomo
22.    Surf’s Up
23.    Wipe Out – with The Fat Boys
24.    Happy Endings – with Little Richard
25.    All Summer Long (a cappella version)

CD #2  Beach Music Classics Vol. 1
1.    Surf City – Jan & Dean
2.    Dancing In The Street – Martha & The Vandellas
3.    I Live For The Sun – The Sunrays
4.    Summertime Angel – The Intentions
5.    Hey! Baby – Bruce Channel
6.    Shoot The Curl – The Honeys
7.    Little Honda – The Hondels
8.    Where The Boys Are – Connie Francis
9.    Harbor Lights – The Platters
10.    One Summer Night – The Danleers
11.    Sealed With A Kiss – Brian Hyland
12.    Summertime – Billy Stewart
13.    New York’s A Lonely Town – The Trade Winds
14.    Summertime, Summertime – The Jamies
15.    Those Lazy, Hazy Crazy Days of Summer – Nat King Cole
16.    Summer Means Fun – Bruce & Terry
17.    The Little Old Lady From Pasadena – Jan & Dean
18.    Beach Baby – First Class
19.    With This Ring – The Platters
20.    Hot Fun In The Summertime – Sly & The Family Stone
21.    Heatwave – Martha & The Vandellas

CD #3 Beach Music Classics Vol. 2
1.    Summer In The City – The Lovin’ Spoonful
2.    (Remember) Walkin’ In The Sand – The Shangri-Las
3.    Sunny – Bobby Hebb
4.    Wonderful Summer – Robin Ward
5.    Love Letters In The Sand – Pat Boone
6.    Vacation – Connie Francis
7.    Ebb Tide – The Righteous Brothers
8.    Sea Of Love – Phil Phillips
9.    Theme From A Summer Place – Percy Faith
10.    California Dreamin’ – The Mamas & The Papas
11.    A Summer Song – Chad & Jeremy
12.    Itsby Bitsy Teenie Weenie Yellow Polk-A-Dot Bikini – Brian Hyland
13.    Hey Little Cobra – The Rip Chords
14.    Summertime Blues – Eddie Cochran
15.    Brandy – The Looking Glass
16.    Rock The Boat – Hues Corporation
17.    Sick And Tired – Boz Skaggs
18.    Escape (The Pina Colada Song) – Rupert Holmes

CD #4 Beach Music Classics Vol. 3
1.    Surfin’ & A Swingin’ – Dick Dale & His Del Tones
2.    Hawaii Five – O – The Ventures
3.    Wipe Out – The Surfaris
4.    Moon Walk – The Atlantics
5.    Stick Shift – The Duals
6.    Baja – The Astronauts
7.    Miserlou – Dick Dale & His Del-Tones
8.    Torquay – The Fireballs
9.    Mr. Moto – The Bel Aires
10.    Pipeline – The Chantays
11.    Scratch – Eddie & The Showmen
12.    Sleep Walk – Santo & Johnny
13.    Surf Rat – The Rumblers
14.    Out Of Limits – The Marketts
15.    Night & Day – The Lively Ones
16.    Theme From The Munsters – Jack Marshall
17.    Walk Don’t Run – The Ventures
18.    Bombora – The Atlantics
19.    Surfer Joe – The Surfaris
20.    Let’s Go Trippin’ – Dick Dale & His Del-Tones

CD #5 Beach Music Classics Vol. 4
1.    Under The Boardwalk – The Drifters
2.    Baby I’m Yours – Barbara Lewis
3.    Beyond The Sea – Bobby Darin
4.    So Much In Love – The Tymes
5.    C’mon & Swim – Bobby Freeman
6.    I’ve Got Sand In My Shoes – The Drifters
7.    In A Moment – The Intrigues
8.    Zing! Went The Strings Of My Heart – The Coasters
9.    Sixty Minute Man – The Dominoes
10.    Up On The Roof – The Drifters
11.    Ride Captain Ride – Blues Image
12.    Hold Back The Night – The Trammps
13.    What Kind Of Fool (Do You Think I Am) – The Tams
14.    Just One Look – Doris Troy
15.    Carolina Girls – General Johnson & The Chairmen Of The Board
16.    Hello Stranger – Barbara Lewis
17.    Ms. Grace – The Tymes
18.    Save The Last Dance For Me – The Drifters

The Beach Classics looks to be a pretty good compilation......although inclusion of The Munsters Theme is a little puzzling. 

It would brought up earlier that it doesn't seem worth the effort to produce and print this oddball BB compilation when they could've just included Sounds of Summer, which they've included on pledge drives in the past when they've shown the 1980 Knebworth show. 

I would definitely put the 4-disc "Summer" collection in my trusty old (25 years) 5-disc CD changer and play it on shuffle play, and get a lot of good listening. It's a solid compilation with some great tunes, I was glad to see "Hello Stranger" by Barbara Lewis make the cut, as it's one of my favorite records of all time. Kudos for a solid set of classics.

But the Beach Boys disc? I'm having a hard time figuring out the "why" portion of it, as in why deliberately cut a song like "Do It Again" or even "Surfin Safari" from this if the target audience is, as hinted at in this thread, the causal fans who would want a comp of BB's classics? Or in other words, their familiar summertime hits...

To me, if you're a car guy or a classic car fan, it would be like Ford or Chevy putting out a calendar or some photo/book collection featuring their 'classics'. You'd expect to see the Corvette, the T-Bird, the Mustang, the Camaro, etc...what people would associate with the classics. What if they left off a photo of the '57 Bel Air or a fastback Mustang and instead had the Pinto or the Chevette, models which were a flop?

I just don't get the concept or the purpose of putting at least a half-dozen of those tracks on what is being sold as a disc of Beach Boys classics or favorites. Makes zero sense, for the fans or even the band's musical legacy to put Summer Of Love and other questionable tracks on a set which is being marketed to the PBS demographic and buyers.

An odd decision to say the least.

They must have had a limited budget of licensing and made up the track list with cheap songs.

Kinda ruling out a Mike-centric point of view is the appearance of "Island Girl" (does Mike even appear on this track?), "Summer Means New Love", and "California Feeling'". Almost looks like somebody specifically wanted to get this '80s-'90s material on a new disc. Truly odd. But WHY ???

It's actually the majority of the "Still Cruisin" album on this disc, then factor in Goin To The Beach, Summer In Paradise, Summer Of Love, "Happy Endings"...and Mike is on vocals on Island Girl. That's pretty Mike-centric I'd say.

Who else either in or surrounding the band would push to include Summer Of Love on a hits compilation being marketed to PBS viewers?

I think Mike mentions having an issue with the inclusion of "Island Girl" on Still Cruisin' in that '92 Goldmine interview

How else to explain the other titles included on this, titles which are miles away from what people who would know the Beach Boys for the hits would even associate with the band's classics, or would want to buy them on a hits package?

I'm not sure, that's what's so bizarre about it.

I'd be inclined to believe that Mike was involved in at least the sequencing of the tracks (if not the track selection). But specifically including such a huge chunk of the Still Cruisin album doesn’t make sense with regard to that possibility. I’d guess there was some kind of licensing deal to lease those masters for a lower price (unpopular ‘80s-‘90s BBs tracks that may have been recorded without ties to any specific album project, and thus owned 100% by BRI?).

Almost looks like they took what would be a 12-track budget “Hits” comp, and fleshed it out with lesser-known tracks. I don’t doubt Mike had his hand in the mix somewhere, but it doesn’t make sense that he would choose these songs from scratch in my opinion. It's not like they're songs that specifically make him look good. I'm sure he'd rather have “Help Me, Rhonda” (a #1 record he co-wrote) included than a random Al Jardine song from the ‘80s that he had little to do with. Or the instrumental flipside to Brian’s first solo single.

I feel like the tracklisting was made and approved with the partial, actual intention of trolling people like us on this board!

Just on face value the CD is called "The Beach Boys: Summer Favorites".  What says it is anything other than that? The Beach Boys' "Summer favorites" selected by Mike, Brian, and Al (maybe Bruce and David?).

I find it interesting that four of the six new songs from Still Cruisin are included.  Only Make It Big and In My Car didn't make it.  

Trying to drum up interest for a reissue?  Maybe?  With bonus tracks from that era that were left off MIC?

I would hope so!

Maybe they added some lesser known beach boys songs to try to get the fans more interested in some of their later stuff and find interest in buying more then just a Greatest Hit album and maybe start collecting more beach boys songs/albums? Just a guess! I dont know why else there would be so much more lesser known 80s/90s material.

Maybe in the coming months we will finally get a reissue of Still Cruisin'

Make it Big = undeservedly, the Rodney Dangerfield of BBs late 80s tracks.

Maybe these are the Summer Favorites by the Beach Boys of the GenXer(s) who put the CD together for PBS?

I can't imagine "Summer of Love" is anyone's favorite anything.

Summer of Love is basically the most widely laughed-at officially released BB song ever.   

Plus, to bookend the song Surf's Up with Wipeout on one end, and Kokomo on the other... that triple shot of songs is friggin' weird sh*t, man. Especially in the internet era where BB fanboys' opinions are known and known well.

I tend to think it's either somebody's idea of a joke, a possible deliberate f*ck you to anyone who dares to think that any one of those songs is MILES and MILES and MILES above the other two (as in an attempt to equalize the three, with the implication that the three could actually flow into each other in any sort of proper way), or that choice was made by someone totally zero awareness. Take your pick. It baffles.

Let's face it... if someone on this board was given the opportunity to actually sequence a compilation CD - with the actual, sole intent of trolling people and making people laugh and say "WTF" - could you do a better job than Good Vibrations -> Summer of Love -> Kokomo -> Surf's Up -> Wipeout?

That said, at least it's more interesting than the same old regurgitated classics compiled over and over again. At least there's something different to laugh about and ponder!

That is really something to ponder about!!!

But i bet majority of the people who bought it would prefer Kokomo over Good Vibrations because they remember when Kokomo came out and charted at number 1 but were to young to remember Good Vibration or not even born yet when Good Vibrations topped the charts

Yes...in THIS day and age...as Kokomo is their most recent truly BIG hit song...and as it appeals to more folks in the crowd because of that FACT...it seems to garner a bigger response than almost all of the other songs included on the set list.

Mike's hosting of the PBS 'special'/fund raiser was slow and pedestrian to start but as he picked up steam and confidence and began to relax into the 'role' he did a pretty good job as the host.  Bruce is more comfortable in front of a camera.  Dean?  Not so much.

See?  Even *I* can complement the cold-hearted old fart when he does something 1/2 decent.   :shrug  Maybe one day that'll happen when he's not on stage or on camera too.  :listening

It's impossible to say, but I'd say the demographic that calls into PBS pledges skews older. They often run "Doo Wop" shows during pledge season that feature music a decade OLDER than "Good Vibrations", and don't tend to show nearly as many artists who came up in the late 80s or early 90s.

So I'd say a typical person pledging would be more likely to be familiar with the older stuff.

Also, the younger, indie hipster nerd fans of Brian and the BBs that are out there tend, *very generally*, to be more into the "Smile" stuff and older deep cuts, and a bit less into, say, the "Still Crusin'" or "Summer in Paradise" albums.

This is the correct tracklist for the Beach Boys disc on the PBS summer classics set.

1- SURFIN USA
2- CA. GIRLS
3-SURFER GIRL
4-FUN FUN FUN
5-WARMTH OF THE SUN
6-LITTLE DEUCE COUPE
7-I GET AROUND
8- DON’T WORRY BABY
9-GOIN TO THE BEACH
10-CA. FEELING
11-SURFS UP
12-SUMMER MEANS NEW LOVE
13-KOKOMO
14-WOULDN’T IT BE NICE
15-GOD ONLY KNOWS
16-GOOD VIBRATIONS
17- BARBARA ANN
18-SOMEWHERE NEAR JAPAN
19-STILL CRUISIN
20-SUMMER OF LOVE
21-ISLAND GIRL
22-WIPE OUT
23-SUMMER IN PARADISE
24-ALL SUMMER LONG-ACAPELLA

Thank you, sir!

So "Happy Endings" didn't make it after all...

Ok not as bad, although a chronological running order may have been less jarring...

I just realized that not only does the CD have 5 of the 7 "non-oldies" from the "Still Cruisin'" album, it has all three of the oldies as well. 8 out of the 10 songs total.

It's nearly just a *really* expanded version of the "Still Cruisin'" album.

OK, I just checked the Atlanta PBS listings to see if the show was still on for tonight, but it isn't. It looks like we'll have to wait until the next begathon to see it.

Bring back happy endings!!

I thought Mike did as well as anyone who has hosted a PBS show.

This is not a happy ending

So the tracklist has changed? I copied what I posted earlier from one of the local PBS sites that were offering the 5-disc set for their fund drive. I'm just wondering how/when/why it changed from what PBS stations were listing to the revision above. Looks like they also changed the sequencing for some reason.

Here's the one I took from a PBS station website when I posted it earlier, for comparison. Again, that came direct from PBS. maybe a case of them jumping the gun?

Beach Boys Summer Favorites CD + Beach Music Classic 4-CD Set

CD #1  The Beach Boys: Summer Favorites
1.    California Girls
2.    I Get Around
3.     Surfer Girl
4.    Wouldn’t It Be Nice
5.    Summer Means New Love
6.    Goin’ To The Beach
7.    Little Deuce Coupe
8.    God Only Knows
9.    Still Cruisin’
10.    Surfin’ USA
11.    Summer In Paradise
12.    The Warmth Of The Sun
13.    Barbara Ann
14.    California Feelin’
15.    Fun, Fun, Fun
16.    Island Girl
17.    Don’t Worry Baby
18.    Somewhere Near Japan
19.    Good Vibrations
20.    Summer Of Love
21.    Kokomo
22.    Surf’s Up
23.    Wipe Out – with The Fat Boys
24.    Happy Endings – with Little Richard
25.    All Summer Long (a cappella version)

Wow that is really stupid they changed the track list after they sold it! That makes this set worthless now! I am sure some poeple bought this set to just get Happy Endings on a CD finally instead of just a bootleg! I almost bought it for that reason alone but then my PBS was off air when it showed! Thank goodness it was or I would of wasted $150. Maybe someday Happy Endings will come out on a nicer and cheaper compilation! I will be interested in that!

If anyone needs "Happy Endings" that badly, it's on YouTube right now or you can buy an original copy of the single for as little as $8 online (maybe even cheaper).

There's even a single with two different mixes/edits of the song!

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61zcx6g%2BKtL._SL1123_.jpg)

It's even a "Hot New Mix"!  ;D  Whatever that means.

Seriously though, I'm wondering what changed in the process to have different tracklistings from a PBS website advertising the set to now, and how and why the BB's entry on this CD set was changed at all. It is, essentially, a repackage of Still Cruisin with some expected additions and some unexpected omissions. It's still not making much sense at this point. Unless the initial tracklist sent to the PBS stations to post and promote for their fundraising was a mistake, who knows.

I want those clothes! :p

One thought after seeing that photo: "Saved By The Bell"

Saved by the Love..... ;)

That was the pilot episode before it was recast. "Featuring music legend Little Richard as the harried principal Mr. Belding"

I love how numerous BB collaborations could never even be bothered to get a shot of the band with the collaborator together. They were always awkward clip jobs:

(http://www.attractivestrangers.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/fat-boys-and-the-beach-boys-wipeout-1987.jpg)

And here's a super rare unreleased piece of cover art:

(http://showvisiontalent.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/summer_beach_-boy-w-logo.jpg)

Man, I never knew Robbie Robertson played in a BB tribute band...

At least this tribute band has Don Goldberg, which I *think* is the "Sweet and Bitter" guy:

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/gigsalad_media/b/BeachBoyssurfsup/537cddec530a5_300_sq)

Meanwhile, this guy is trying with the circa-1984 Mike Love hat:

(http://www.entertain.ie/UK%20Beach%20Boys%20Tribute%20Band.jpg)

Even more ironically, when Google looks for "similar images" to pics of the BBs from the 80s, you also get this:

(https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2014-10/21/19/enhanced/webdr04/enhanced-32082-1413933415-20.jpg)

Back to "Happy Endings", it's even weirder they couldn't get a pic of them all together, because I recall that there was an interview with the band and Little Richard around the time the single was released. They were in the same room at some point.

Now that would be something to photograph - A meeting between the only two guys in rock and roll history who really knew how to wear a gold turban on stage!  ;D

I used to HAVE that!!!

Wipeout, not whatever in hell the other thing is.

Why on earth, when paired with Little Richard, did the guys decide to go for the slowest song possible? I would have loved to have heard Richard paired with the Boys on Rock 'N' Roll to the Rescue.

There was a TV-interview with Mike, Bruce and Little Richard. The other guys weren't there.

->  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRIYmqRlt6Y


But Brian appeared in a Little Richard music video for a song he recorded in the late 80s or early 90s. Might be for "Itsy bitsy spider" but I don't remember

Apparently Brian's in here somewhere. The visual quality is truly abysmal:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2zrnk_little-richard-w-brian-wilson-araig_animals

I think I got a screengrab of what I'm *guessing* is Brian from that video (in the yellow shirt), although the quality on the video is super awful:

(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14203368_1693912327597519_3516703326953629582_n.jpg?oh=7d95ced35a6a9b2adadcb3c5b5d95b7c&oe=584CCD4F)

Yes, thanks guys! That is Brian! He "plays" trumpet in that video.

Holy hell....that looks like Bob Ross  tried to paint a portrait of Penn &  Teller using watercolors while tripping on shrooms.

This may be the most recent footage we have of Bruce audibly playing any given keyboarded instrument he's seated (or standing) at.

Where i Can find the upgrade of the music video that appears on the clip

the version posted on youtube has a bad quality

Finally got around to watching this on my DVR. The music video for Kokomo was a version I had never seen before--it had all the footage from Cocktail replaced with generic beach/paradise looking scenes. The new scenes were all HD quality, which was a bit out of place when included with the shots of the band on the beach at the Grand Floridian at Walt Disney World.

I noticed that too, it was as you said all of the Cocktail imagery was edited out and replaced by what looked like modern stock footage of tropical/island scenery and activities. It didn't gel at all, but I think we can venture a guess as to why the Cocktail footage was cut out, beyond the obvious potential copyright/usage and licensing points.

Not to open up an old debate, but I remember seeing that video many, many times on MTV when it was new and later on VH-1 as a 'classic', and the film's success and Tom Cruise and all the tie-ins helped drive that song on the charts, video and radio/sales. IMO. It was cross-promotion just as Miami Vice did with any number of songs like Smugglers Blues or In The Air Tonight after they were linked to the show.

But yeah, this was unexpected and a little jarring too when they ran the clip and those modern images came on.

I wasn't really looking at this thread, and I needed some comedy today.  Now I have it before I wander off to sort-of entertain my husband and deal with other normal things in the physical world  It'still there, right?  How far we drift.

I just got the CDs today. No Happy Endings. False advertising.

Was "Happy Endings" listed when PBS aired this special?

Mark Linett posted at the end of August that "Happy Endings" wasn't on the CD and provided the correct tracklisting.

My mistake.

The good news is that Mike recorded a new version of “Surfin’ USA” for the various-artist collection in addition to “Do It Again.”

Dammit Mike, stop rerecording stuff... ::)

Say what you will, but the new DIA kills.

can someone post the new versions online somewhere?

Just going off of the inclusion of Summer of Love, I assume the Lovester is behind this despicable track listing?

:lol :lol :lol

:D

My initial report upon listening to the Beach Boys disc:

The ’80s tracks sound good. The version of “Summer In Paradise” is the Wembley version. And as for the a cappella “All Summer Long,” it’s just an edited version of what was released on Keep An Eye On Summer (none of the intro matter).

For the curious, there’s information on all five discs of the CD set on Discogs: https://www.discogs.com/label/1082964-Beach-Music-Classics.

I at least feel better that Mike's *two* re-recordings, "Surfin' USA" and "Do It Again", are not on the BB disc but are found within the other four discs of "Beach Music Classics."

I would imagine perhaps some other BRI shareholders wouldn't have wanted Mike solo tracks mixed in with BB tracks, especially when, unlike say Brian's "California Feelin'", Mike's tracks are old BB hits.

Would be interesting to hear the mastering on the "Still Cruisin'" tracks on this new CD, though I think that stuff was recorded and mixed sounding a bit thin. The actual mastering on the original 1989 "Still Cruisin'" CD is actually fine, so I would guess the main thing on the new CD might be that everything is of course mastered louder.

I still think it's beyond odd that Mike needed to re-record "Do It Again" *again*! What's next? A re-imagining of "Goin' to the Beach?"

Would be cool if someone could throw those two Mike re-recordings up on YouTube to hear.

I sure would be interested to hear those two recordings as well.

Especially interested to hear how Mike comes off on these as his voice has been thinning a bit lately and it might be harder for him to get that sound he got on the original versions of these tunes.

I'd be curious to know if that Michael Lloyd guy, who produced last year's "Alone on Christmas Day", produced these two BB re-recordings. That Christmas track was over-processed and way too wet, and had either autotune or some sort of vocal processing on Mike's voice.

I thought even the full BB re-recording of "Do It Again" from 2011 was only marginally interesting; it really had more to do with seeing and hearing them together again. I can't imagine another re-recording, this time without Al or Brian (and who knows if Bruce is even on Mike's new recordings; he doesn't even seem to often get involved in Mike's recording projects), and presumably with as many if not more Fosketts than the 2011 version, would sound anything but less interesting.

Mike loves to "do it again" again and again..... ;)

Are the re-recorded tracks the same as on the 1996 catch a wave promo CD that Mike released?

No, the re-records are pretty recent. Mike sounds somewhat robotic à la “Alone On Christmas Day” but in general very good. The recordings rock more and sound more full than the Baker recordings. And you can pick out Jeff and Bruce’s voices in the background.

Yeah, the re-records are definitely fuller than the Baker recordings. Definitely hearing Bruce on the "hey-now" part of "Do It Again" although I don't hear him on "Surfin' U.S.A."

I'll have to respectfully disagree on the robotic thing though Mr. Big Daddy. I don't hear robotic as much as I hear an older Mike who's voice just simply isn't as strong as it used to be, so it's a little wavery. However, I much prefer his vocal on these 2 songs to most of the vocals on the Baker material.

I guess I misspoke; Mike’s voice is natural sounding, but you can tell at points is being autotuned/processed/what have you. More noticeably on “Surfin’ USA.”

If these were available digitally, I'd definitely buy them.

So for those who've heard them: what's better: the 2012 C50 do it again, or the Mike Love 2016?

In my opinion C50 is one hundred times better. The C50 version sounded like THE BEACH BOYS which is huge of course, and also I thought the production was good. I thought Mike and Brian both sounded really nice on it too. Mike's solo version....I can say I do like hearing Bruce loud and clear on the "hey now" part, but overall I think Mike's voice is weaker than the C50 version and the overall sound is demo-ish.

Thanks! I'll wait for this to pop up on eBay or something, but definitely not going to go out of my way for it! I used to be a completist with officially released stuff, but I'll have to settle with being a 99%ist instead.