Soundtrack

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

When did Billboard say this?

http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/6258962/love-mercy-john-cusack-paul-dano-brian-wilson-beach-boys

Capitol will release a soundtrack of Love & Mercy, Pohlad told Billboard, although he has no further details. He is still talking with distributors about picking up the film.

Last September.

Ah, well sh*t then...I think I'll take billboard's word

[Wirestone]

It is my understanding that things changed after the Billboard article.

I would enjoy whatever BB/BW releases we can get, but I gather that Capitol delayed NPP so that it could, in essence, help promote the film.

Thus, we have One Kind of Love, which BW says was written for the film, on NPP. And we have a conspicuous silence from Capitol about any soundtrack release, which would surely be near June 5 if one was planned.

[Andrew G. Doe]

When did Billboard say this?

http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/6258962/love-mercy-john-cusack-paul-dano-brian-wilson-beach-boys

Capitol will release a soundtrack of Love & Mercy, Pohlad told Billboard, although he has no further details. He is still talking with distributors about picking up the film.

Last September.

Billboard also said there was going to be a Wilson/Beck album released. 

[pixletwin]

Whether there will be a soundtrack in reality or not; for there to NOT be an official soundtrack for this film is so completely counter-intuitive.

However....

Occurrences counter-intuitive in nature are not altogether uncommon to the history of the Beach Boys.

 

[sea of tunes]

It is my understanding that things changed after the Billboard article.

I would enjoy whatever BB/BW releases we can get, but I gather that Capitol delayed NPP so that it could, in essence, help promote the film.

Thus, we have One Kind of Love, which BW says was written for the film, on NPP. And we have a conspicuous silence from Capitol about any soundtrack release, which would surely be near June 5 if one was planned.

That makes sense. 

However, let me be another person that says I wished they would at least consider doing a 'Score' Soundtrack.  I've yet to see the film, very much anticipating it, and would love to have an accompanying score to go with it.

[The Shift]

I'd buy the soundtrack if it was nothing more than BA on repeat… but then I'm like that…

[carnegiehall]

Having seen the movie, not to release a soundtrack would be another major missed opportunity in my opinion.

[rab2591]

I'd certainly love to know the reason for a possible non-release. A major motion picture about Brian Wilson of The Beach Boys staring Paul Dano, John Cuscack, Elizabeth Banks, and Paul Giamatti....how the f*** could there not be a released soundtrack to that? It is the Beach Boys for crying out loud. Whatever the problem is, I hope it solves itself soon - absolutely crazy that movies like Ray, Walk the Line, I'm Not There, etc get a soundtrack but not one for Brian Wilson's biopic. SNAFU.

Also, many who have seen the film have already mentioned that this is a soundtrack with a score of a Beatles Love-esque nature. Mix in some of those new arrangements with some classic hits and a few rarities - why wouldn't you buy such an album? Ridiculous not to.

[Andrew G. Doe]

You just answered your own question - it's The Beach Boys.

[SMiLE Brian]

We know its not BW or Al who doesn't want a release.....

Who could it be in BRI?

[rab2591]

You just answered your own question - it's The Beach Boys.

True that. Just a shame it has to be that way.

I must say the last 5 years have been a treasure trove for Beach Boys fans, so not much room for complaints from me. But I'll still be pretty disappointed if a soundtrack doesn't eventually happen.

[ontor pertawst]

What a ridiculous move... i've tried to find out about this but haven't turned up much.

 If it turns out it's Mike Love blocking a soundtrack release because he doesn't "get" Atticus Rose' style, he needs to have rotten tomatoes chucked at him for an apalling lack of taste. Or is he simply jealous and spiteful of the attention his cousin is recieving? Still bitter about the shitshow An American Family turned into? If its indeed the Loves blocking this: ya got Foskett, ya got Ike, you manipulated your family into letting you keep the licence... yay! You won! Mike Love is the best! But damn, let a soundtrack release happen and let the cousin take his victory lap.  Sheesh. Talk about petty. Besides, yer buddy Stamos will no doubt make cinematic history with his upcoming opus! Then finally Bruno Mars will return your calls!

[Lee Marshall]

I personally crapped all over Capitol for releasing that stupid little 'Best of' album weeks after Pet Sounds came out and then for seemingly putting more weight behind its push rather than that of the entirely superior NEW album.  I still sh*t on them for it.  I wasn't...and I'm not...the ONLY one.

So now...here we are celebrating Brian's new release and many of us think that No Pier Pressure is his best SOLO release of NEW music yet...a gem of an album.  So now Capitol is holding back...keeping quiet about an alum which could be coming out something in the vicinity of 8 weeks following the release of NPP.  I'm glad they're keeping a lid on it.  Certainly they wouldn't sabotage another ACE Brian project!!! 

If they held back on the release of NPP in order to help create momentum for the movie...well...OK.  I'd think that the movie will also help to promote NPP.  I mean I hope so.  And in tandem they'll hopefully help sell a few more tickets at every upcoming concert on the tour.  It could actually work.  Just...don't...hide No Pier Pressure behind a bunch of retreads.  I mean REALLY!!!

[ontor pertawst]

I want those gorgeous soundtrack collages released. Unused sections of em, too. The lot. It's briliant work, they can stick some BW demos on there and interesting oddities... a demo of One Kind of Love, say? Early version of Till I Die!

[rab2591]

We know its not BW or Al who doesn't want a release.....

Who could it be in BRI?

How do you know Al and Brian are for it?

[SMiLE Brian]

We know its not BW or Al who doesn't want a release.....

Who could it be in BRI?

How do you know Al and Brian are for it?

Good question, the politics of the BBs are pretty complex but BW and Al are touring behind the album and L&M. A soundtrack would be another component of supporting the movie and NPP.

[Andrew G. Doe]

If it turns out it's Mike Love blocking a soundtrack release because he doesn't "get" Atticus Rose' style, he needs to have rotten tomatoes chucked at him for an apalling lack of taste. Or is he simply jealous and spiteful of the attention his cousin is recieving? Still bitter about the shitshow An American Family turned into? If its indeed the Loves blocking this: ya got Foskett, ya got Ike, you manipulated your family into letting you keep the licence... yay! You won! Mike Love is the best! But damn, let a soundtrack release happen and let the cousin take his victory lap.  Sheesh. Talk about petty. Besides, yer buddy Stamos will no doubt make cinematic history with his upcoming opus! Then finally Bruno Mars will return your calls!

Setting aside the multiple and entirely theoretical "ifs", why would Mike block a soundtrack that would mean more income for him ?

[pixletwin]

To be honest, I do not want a soundtrack of Beach Boys songs from this film.

I want the film score soundtrack. That is all.

[ontor pertawst]

Setting aside the multiple and entirely theoretical "ifs", why would Mike block a soundtrack that would mean more income for him ?

Increased sandwich budget with Foskett and Ike aboard may mean cuts in accommodations and stuffing instead of potatoes on his LoveForce1 jet, but you have to admit it would seem like the kind of move a pissy guy with a grudge in a busy year might be prone to. Can you find out what the Loves think of Love & Mercy and when they plan to see it or maybe if they looked at the scripts that circulate? While it's easy to write dialogue and spiteful gibberish for Fantasy Mike Love, you're right - some facts might help. Calling Tahoe... Calling Tahoe...

Regardless, I have a feeling he'll be opining soon enough in tiny newspapers and we'll get an earful!

[Howie Edelson]

There IS a movie soundtrack. From everything I know about its (non)release, it needs to be signed off on by ALL the partners of BRI.
As of April 23rd, 2015, that has not happened.

The work by Atticus Rose is brilliant and important and breathtaking. High art from high art. Why would anybody choose not to sign off on that?

People need to know that the rounding of third began long ago.
How one finishes is how history remembers them.

There's a right side and a wrong side to history.
(I'm both amazed -- and sadly used to -- the people choosing the wrong side.)

[ontor pertawst]

So... someone isn't voting. Brian and Al, surely they are in. Which leaves Mike Love and Carl Wilson's family. Fine, ask Mike to sing "Goin' to the Beach" on the extended Japanese edition and offer a portion of the proceeds to go to the Carl Wilson Fund for Men Who Look and Sometimes Sing Like Carl Wilson in the Shower... call it a day! Ok, Al does "Cottonfields" for no apparent reason on the European release.

It's good stuff and it treats all parties fairly... Mike Love comes off like... Mike Love in the movie. I think the staunchest Pinder-y defender of our favorite pointing pantomimer will not quibble much with how he's portrayed in the film. Sure, some song specifics are changed but the points of his arguments would be defended to death by a lot of us here!

most importantly, Howie is right - those Rose collages need a proper release, not just the guys on this board making nice surround compilations of mixes. Though obviously, you're going to do that for me if the bluray release doesn't. A nice selection of extras might be a second way to get these tracks if "certain parties" can't come to agreement for a release with Capitol.

It's tasty stuff, fellas. See it in a theater with a good sound system this summer not some crappy bootleg on a laptop! Your ears will thank you.

[wantsomecorn]

I think we're thinking far too much into nothing here with whether or not BRI would approve such a release (and even if Mike didn't approve it, why wouldn't Carl's estate approve it? It's free money for them, and hell, free money for Mike too!)

We have no idea why the soundtrack isn't happening and grasping at straws for someone to blame isn't going to do anything but create more arguments.

[HeyJude]

I think we're thinking far too much into nothing here with whether or not BRI would approve such a release (and even if Mike didn't approve it, why wouldn't Carl's estate approve it? It's free money for them, and hell, free money for Mike too!)

We have no idea why the soundtrack isn't happening and grasping at straws for someone to blame isn't going to do anything but create more arguments.

It sounds like at least a few folks *do* know why it isn't happening (or hasn't happened thus far). It's a fair assumption Brian Wilson has no problem signing off. Al is buds with Brian these days (there's a even a pic out there of Al talking to some of the cast of the L&M film as I recall), so it's unlikely to be him.

If someone is stalling a release for political or d***head reasons, I for one wouldn't mind knowing. I'm glad Howie has been able to tell us as much as we now know; a soundtrack of some sort did (or does) exist.

What I would hope is that there might be some way to finagle a release of the score portions alone. I know licensing and use of trademarks can be a difficult thing to clear (which may be why BRI approval is needed even if there aren't any BB recordings in question). But I wonder if Atticus Ross and the film's production team could somehow get the score out even if they can't call it that. Just an Atticus Ross album called "A New Album of Stuff", with proper publishing and royalties for the songwriters whose work Ross has woven into his score. Anybody can cover BB songs if they pay the flat royalty rate for CDs/albums. "Tribute" albums even use the "Beach Boys" name in some form in the title sometimes. I hope we get to hear this score, or, as I mentioned before, there is something salvageable on the Blu-ray audio track to pull some of the score out.

[Howie Edelson]

This is why BRI needs a MANAGER.

Because a manager (a real one) understands that there is both a high art and casual element to the selling of this band. For those catching up: Brian Wilson camp = high art and the Mike Love camp = casual element. A neutral manager -- preferably, someone who knows these ropes -- would be able to act as a true moderator and circumvent the messes of (at least) the past dozen years.

Both camps are important parts of the Beach Boys experience in 2015, yet, obviously, only one will continue to be in 30, 40. . . 250 years. That’s a fact no matter what team’s jersey you wear (or who’s check you cash.)

Holding the high art faction ransom (or at the very least, trying to spoil it a la the ugliness and lawsuits surrounding the release of BWPS) should never be tolerated.

Atticus Rose’s thought-provoking and forward looking score should get the same unanimous vote that allowed this BBQ to exist without interference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuBSWYoSPj4

[joshferrell]

unfortunately soundtracks are old hat,,, unless it's a huge movie like the "Lord of the ring" or "Star Wars" it seems that Rock n roll type soundtracks (like Ray or Grease, or an 80's soundtrack movie) are out of fashion , just think about it when was the last time you actually saw a (non instrumental) rock n roll soundtrack? Since the 80's? other than Ray and a couple more?it seems that instrumentals (orchestra and Synths) are the in thing right now..