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I'm glad you read that. It's been quite the topic of conversation around here. And the Rolling Stone facebook article link had over 500 comments (and it wasn't pretty).
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The "lyrical genius tongue tied". Good point Rocky
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a day without Rocky is like a day without sunshine.
A DAY WITHOUT ROCKY IS LIKE A DAY WITHOUT SUNSHINE
I don't know what to say! Doo Daa you have MADE MY DAY! "zipity doo da"
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The first person narrative definitely works better. The two Three Dog Night books by Jimmy Greenspoon and Chuck Negron respectively paint a vivid picture of the era, and all the excess. Negron's book is particularly harrowing.
Doo Daa... thank you for your imput on the 1st person... the whole book has been revised! I WILL POST PARTS: 5...6...7...and 8 of "Wha--Ooh" SOON! I get the feeling "the angry 13" have burried their heads in the sand alongside emily... Stephen said he can see 24 legs sticking up in the air at the end of the beach where he SURF"S... he said people are scattering away from them because they were running down the beach screaming... and tearing their hair out... then they all just dug holes and crawled in...pulling the sand in with their arms and then jamming them in the sand as well... say's their legs are still kicking around in the air though... that's gotta be a good thing... their still ALIVE:)
SURF" UP
Things have been kinda quiet on this thread because everyone's been reading and commenting on the thread c/o Mike's recent Rolling Stone interview. A lot of back and forth - a real rugby scrum. After that dies down, I'm sure things will get back to normal (or as normal as it can be in the waCKy world of our Beach Boys)!
Thanks Doo Dah... I too read the article on... mike
loveless...what a "POOR" misunderstood "GENIUS...he just can't catch a break! All these people out there hating!
What on earth could he have possibly done to deserve all this? After all... all he does is MEDITATE and write HIT SONGS... what's not to LOVE
I guess the collective consciousness of the entire universe is WRONG! I especially liked the part where his "SIXTH WIFE JACKIE" is standing on a chair, towering over him, pretending to be Brian... asking what he would say to Brian if he were here right now... and he can't think of a single thing to say... he's tongue tied...The Lyrical Genius... and here is the best part, when he finally decides to play along... as to what he would say to Brian... he says... I would say "I love you"...BUT...BUT...BUT...
But there's this... and there's that... and there's this other thing... and there's all the name calling... AND ALL THE HATING
WHY DOES EVERYONE HATE ME?... I DON'T GET IT
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Best thread ever. Period.
The alliance between Mike haters and a self - acknowledged Wilson beater is one of the most surprising events in this board's history.
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Quote from: Autotune on February 18, 2016, 06:04:44 PM
Best thread ever. Period.
The alliance between Mike haters and a self - acknowledged Wilson beater is one of the most surprising events in this board's history.
It's like the Middle East. It's complicated man...
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Quote from: rockrush3 on February 18, 2016, 02:13:45 PM
Quote from: Doo Dah on February 18, 2016, 11:36:13 AM
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Quote from: Doo Dah on February 17, 2016, 03:16:05 PM
The first person narrative definitely works better. The two Three Dog Night books by Jimmy Greenspoon and Chuck Negron respectively paint a vivid picture of the era, and all the excess. Negron's book is particularly harrowing.
Doo Daa... thank you for your imput on the 1st person... the whole book has been revised! I WILL POST PARTS: 5...6...7...and 8 of "Wha--Ooh" SOON! I get the feeling "the angry 13" have burried their heads in the sand alongside emily... Stephen said he can see 24 legs sticking up in the air at the end of the beach where he SURF"S... he said people are scattering away from them because they were running down the beach screaming... and tearing their hair out... then they all just dug holes and crawled in...pulling the sand in with their arms and then jamming them in the sand as well... say's their legs are still kicking around in the air though... that's gotta be a good thing... their still ALIVE:)
SURF" UP
Things have been kinda quiet on this thread because everyone's been reading and commenting on the thread c/o Mike's recent Rolling Stone interview. A lot of back and forth - a real rugby scrum. After that dies down, I'm sure things will get back to normal (or as normal as it can be in the waCKy world of our Beach Boys)!
Thanks Doo Dah... I too read the article on... mike
loveless...what a "POOR" misunderstood "GENIUS...he just can't catch a break! All these people out there hating!
What on earth could he have possibly done to deserve all this? After all... all he does is MEDITATE and write HIT SONGS... what's not to LOVE
I guess the collective consciousness of the entire universe is WRONG! I especially liked the part where his "SIXTH WIFE JACKIE" is standing on a chair, towering over him, pretending to be Brian... asking what he would say to Brian if he were here right now... and he can't think of a single thing to say... he's tongue tied...The Lyrical Genius... and here is the best part, when he finally decides to play along... as to what he would say to Brian... he says... I would say "I love you"...BUT...BUT...BUT...
But there's this... and there's that... and there's this other thing... and there's all the name calling... AND ALL THE HATING
WHY DOES EVERYONE HATE ME?... I DON'T GET IT
Mmm. The irony in this post is delicious.
No irony however in BW writing "All the violence in this world you know you just can't win" while in Rocky's company.
Fun though to hear Stephen Love having a little joke at your expense, Rocky!
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To Emily and "the angry 13" - It's NOT at my expense that Stephen is having a hearty laugh while SURFING... and watching THE 24 LEGS flailing around in the air, of lunatics, with their HEADS IN THE SAND! You really must read more carefully... or do you have someone reading for you... that's causing you to MISUNDERSTAND so much? And when you speak of the lack of irony... in your reference to "violence " in my presence... Is that why "BRIAN CALLED ME UP" after I no longer worked for him and wanted me to come over and HANG WITH HIM? And then cruised by "my" pad the very next weekend wanting "ME" to take a cruise up the coast with him?
OH... that's right, to your way of thinking Brian would call someone up that HE DOESN'T LIKE and ASK THEM to come HANG WITH HIM... and then drop by their pad to go for a cruise with him...because he considers them VIOLENT?!
Or could it be... "HE KNOWS I HELPED SAVE HIS LIFE." And he likes me? I wonder why he doesn't call YOU... emily, you've PROVED YOUR LOVE for him! Keep making your delicious posts... #13
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Hey Rocky, do you have any contact with Brian these days or any members of the band?
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Quote from: urbanite on February 19, 2016, 12:10:46 PM
Hey Rocky, do you have any contact with Brian these days or any members of the band?
Good question... I know from a very good source that Brian and Melinda are following SMILE...
as are OTHERS!
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That's a tough test for a new employee, but it adds context to the enviorment within which Rocky and Stan had to operate. I'm interested in reading about everyone's reaction. It could be the starting point for understanding the 'Heroin Incident' events. (Understanding and Justifying still seperate for time being) Rocky may have had one focus. Protect Brian at all cost. Aggression towards him needed to be checked in order to make sure nobody would feel that they could mess with Rocky and Stan, and thus perhaps undermine their sole purpose of keeping Brian clean.
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Quote from: CenturyDeprived on November 12, 2015, 09:00:06 AM
Quote from: Emily on November 12, 2015, 08:20:37 AM
I've read various quotes by the people involved on the various assaults on the Wilsons, and the assailants never seem to get that battery is NEVER OK regardless of how annoyed or angry or whatever you feel regarding someone. They never seem regretful or "I just lost it. It was really terrible of me. I've taken X steps to learn to control my behavior better..." It's always, "Carl was rude, so..." "Dennis gave Brian drugs, so..." "Your mother undermined my authority and incredibly harsh violent punishment is good for kids, so..."
The lack of regret and recognition that battery is wrong IN ANY CASE is what really bothers me.
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You are not only DEPRIVED... you're CENTURIES behind! Dennis getting beat up because Brian's LIVE-IN NURSE begged US to STOP DENNIS... is the very reason BRIAN IS LIVING TODAY! Go "preach" your NON-VIOLENCE PSYCHOBABBLE to ISIS, Bin Laden, Saddam Hussein and Hitler... not to mention all the MASS MURDERERS around the world CHOPPING AMERICANS' HEADS OFF and videotaping it for the whole world to see! "Peace-LOVE- Dove" You missed your calling a half "CENTURY" ago... back in the Sixties
"PEACE"
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Quote from: Juice Brohnston on February 19, 2016, 12:55:08 PM
That's a tough test for a new employee, but it adds context to the environment within which Rocky and Stan had to operate. I'm interested in reading about everyone's reaction. It could be the starting point for understanding the 'Heroin Incident' events. (Understanding and justifying still separate for time being.) Rocky may have had one focus, that is, to protect Brian at all costs. Aggression towards him needed to be checked in order to make sure nobody would feel that they could mess with Rocky and Stan, and thus perhaps undermine their sole purpose of keeping Brian clean.
JUICE are you joining the other "Psychiatrists" on SMILE? Stick to JUICING IT... or at least consult with mikey "TM" loveless, someone who desperately needs HELP! After all, he's so "MISUNDERSTOOD" by not only his soon to be SIX ex- wives
and by ALL THE PEOPLE WHO HATE HIM
and of course by ALL THE PEOPLE HE SUES!
You notice I didn't include Brian... because the best revenge is... LIVING WELL
being HAPPILY MARRIED
and, of course, ...HAVING TALENT
Brian, Dennis and Carl. (NO LOVELESS)
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There is obviously something wrong with people who don't see Rocky for what he is...
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mtaber... nice name...stick to Obama's town hall speech at Ball State... your "wit" needs a lot of work("for what it is") Don't quit your day job...oh... that's right you don't have one... this is it... READING ROCKY PAMPLIN'S BOOK ABOUT THE BEACH BOYS... SMILE
"59,242" reads right now... I wonder if I'll make it to "60,000" before 5:00 pm today when I sign off...AND GO HAVE A LIFE... as I do everyday... and every weekend. You should try it... and so should "the angry 13"
just a suggestion!
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Hey Rocky, any chance your LP gets reissued to coincide with the book? 60,000 sales these days would put it at the top of the charts.
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Quote from: rockrush3 on February 19, 2016, 12:59:28 PM
Quote from: CenturyDeprived on November 12, 2015, 09:00:06 AM
Quote from: Emily on November 12, 2015, 08:20:37 AM
I've read various quotes by the people involved on the various assaults on the Wilsons, and the assailants never seem to get that battery is NEVER OK regardless of how annoyed or angry or whatever you feel regarding someone. They never seem regretful or "I just lost it. It was really terrible of me. I've taken X steps to learn to control my behavior better..." It's always, "Carl was rude, so..." "Dennis gave Brian drugs, so..." "Your mother undermined my authority and incredibly harsh violent punishment is good for kids, so..."
The lack of regret and recognition that battery is wrong IN ANY CASE is what really bothers me.
+1
You are not only DEPRIVED... you're CENTURIES behind! Dennis getting beat up because Brian's LIVE-IN NURSE begged US to STOP DENNIS... is the very reason BRIAN IS LIVING TODAY! Go "preach" your NON-VIOLENCE PSYCHOBABBLE to ISIS, Bin Laden, Saddam Hussein and Hitler... not to mention all the MASS MURDERERS around the world CHOPPING AMERICANS' HEADS OFF and videotaping it for the whole world to see! "Peace-LOVE- Dove" You missed your calling a half "CENTURY" ago... back in the Sixties
"PEACE"
More lovely irony. He mocks people on the board for not "having a life" but spends his time rereading this thread, going as far back as November.
You've lived down to my early expectations, Rocky!
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Quote from: Emily on February 19, 2016, 04:21:45 PM
Quote from: rockrush3 on February 19, 2016, 12:59:28 PM
Quote from: CenturyDeprived on November 12, 2015, 09:00:06 AM
Quote from: Emily on November 12, 2015, 08:20:37 AM
I've read various quotes by the people involved on the various assaults on the Wilsons, and the assailants never seem to get that battery is NEVER OK regardless of how annoyed or angry or whatever you feel regarding someone. They never seem regretful or "I just lost it. It was really terrible of me. I've taken X steps to learn to control my behavior better..." It's always, "Carl was rude, so..." "Dennis gave Brian drugs, so..." "Your mother undermined my authority and incredibly harsh violent punishment is good for kids, so..."
The lack of regret and recognition that battery is wrong IN ANY CASE is what really bothers me.
+1
You are not only DEPRIVED... you're CENTURIES behind! Dennis getting beat up because Brian's LIVE-IN NURSE begged US to STOP DENNIS... is the very reason BRIAN IS LIVING TODAY! Go "preach" your NON-VIOLENCE PSYCHOBABBLE to ISIS, Bin Laden, Saddam Hussein and Hitler... not to mention all the MASS MURDERERS around the world CHOPPING AMERICANS' HEADS OFF and videotaping it for the whole world to see! "Peace-LOVE- Dove" You missed your calling a half "CENTURY" ago... back in the Sixties
"PEACE"
More lovely irony. He mocks people on the board for not "having a life" but spends his time rereading this thread, going as far back as November.
You've lived down to my early expectations, Rocky!
Actually, that'd account for a huge percentage of the near-60,000 reads this thread has had. Seriously.
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Quote from: John Manning on February 19, 2016, 04:08:29 PM
Hey Rocky, any chance your LP gets reissued to coincide with the book? 60,000 sales these days would put it at the top of the charts.
You never know womanning missinglink... how's your album doing? THANKS for asking though...with all the great compliments I've gotten about it on this thread... I might just do that... My favorite compliment was the one... I love your voice... at least you don't have a "whiny ass pinched nose voice" that stigmatized the Beach Boys back in the late 60s and almost ruined them... Brian had to bring in Blondie Chaplin to sing "Sail On Sailor" Now that cat could sing!... Brian knew it... guess that's why Brian is still performing with Blondie... and not some others
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girl with HEAD IN THE SAND... In case you haven't noticed... on every single post it say's...ROCKY PAMPLIN BOOK ABOUT THE BEACH BOYS... (nothing about... emily) I'M on this thread because I have a book to PROMOTE! What's your EXCUSE...You Just Luv Me too Much? Don't be jealous... The only thing "down" is you and all your OPINIONS... nobody cares about them... the readers just "skip over you" emily... Custom Machine told you that! When are you gonna "GET IT"?
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Hey, here's a novel idea (pardon the pun) ! How about a book called 'The Beach Boys book about Rocky Pamplin' with a forward by M E Love - Blimey it should be hell of a tome over what? 3 pages ?
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It's sad that the BBs had to put up with the 70s notion of the "whiny ass pinched nose girls voice." Since Brian is now considered to have had one of the top 100 voices in popular music (#50 in Rolling Stone), it goes to show how idiotic we could be back then. And Carl? Well, that goes without saying. It's funny because it seemed like it was always guys who got all bent out of shape about male falsetto voices--calling it girly. We female types didn't seem to have a problem with it--in fact found it gorgeous. Just like hearing Blondie sing Wild Honey is gorgeous and it rocks. Both Carl and Brian could rock the house when they chose to. Brian had one of the most flexible and expressive voices in contemporary music. Its purity was only matched by Carl's, except in general, Brian could sing higher. It was a true loss for American music when Brian somehow got the notion that his angelic falsetto wasn't cool anymore. But in the 60s and 70s that was the thing for white guys. Our loss.
This isn't a criticism of you, Rocky, since I haven't heard you. I am, however, contradicting your opinion regarding what was right at the time in the 70s. Because a rough, rockin' voice what the "cool guys" said (the radio jocks) The BBs would have done fine if they understood that girls (which included adult women) would buy their records if Brian Wilson had continued to use that soaring falsetto. And so would a lot of guys--maybe secretly. The hip critics would have barfed because they were the cool guys (see: magazine, Rolling Stone) and would come around years later (as they have) because as you know and we all know, it's great f*cking music that has influenced generations.
I think it's a great idea that you've shifted from 3rd person to 1st person. Your last installment gives a lot of insight into you point of view--what you were feeling and thinking when you met Dennis.
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girl with HEAD IN THE SAND... In case you haven't noticed... on every single post it say's...ROCKY PAMPLIN BOOK ABOUT THE BEACH BOYS... (nothing about... emily) I'M on this thread because I have a book to PROMOTE! What's your EXCUSE...You Just Luv Me too Much? Don't be jealous... The only thing "down" is you and all your OPINIONS... nobody cares about them... the readers just "skip over you" emily... Custom Machine told you that! When are you gonna "GET IT"?
You're promoting your book by going back and reading posts from November? That's an interesting interpretation of a 'job'. And a great job you're doing. You've got about 4 fans already.
I don't need an excuse to read this thread Rocky. It'is fascinating and very revealing, though at times downright depressing. It's a case study in unevolved retrograde thinking. Ever think that you would lose respect by acting like an idiot in front of everyone on that plane? Or 'must be alpha male' is as far as your thinking went?
So my source was right that along with imprisoning Brian Wilson, you mocked him about his voice. You already told us you humiliated him in front of his peers; you stuck him in ice water when he needed emergency services; you beat up his brothers; you forced him to do work he neither wanted nor needed to do; and when he tried to get away from you, you chased him down and forced him to submit to more debasement; all this was when he was in desperate need of mental health care. What else did you do to Brian Wilson, Rocky?
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girl with HEAD IN THE SAND... In case you haven't noticed... on every single post it say's...ROCKY PAMPLIN BOOK ABOUT THE BEACH BOYS... (nothing about... emily) I'M on this thread because I have a book to PROMOTE! What's your EXCUSE...You Just Luv Me too Much? Don't be jealous... The only thing "down" is you and all your OPINIONS... nobody cares about them... the readers just "skip over you" emily... Custom Machine told you that! When are you gonna "GET IT"?
You're promoting your book by going back and reading posts from November? That's an interesting interpretation of a 'job'. And a great job you're doing. You've got about 4 fans already.
I don't need an excuse to read this thread Rocky. It'is fascinating and very revealing, though at times downright depressing. It's a case study in unevolved retrograde thinking. Ever think that you would lose respect by acting like an idiot in front of everyone on that plane? Or 'must be alpha male' is as far as your thinking went?
So my source was right that along with imprisoning Brian Wilson, you mocked him about his voice. You already told us you humiliated him in front of his peers; you stuck him in ice water when he needed emergency services; you beat up his brothers; you forced him to do work he neither wanted nor needed to do; and when he tried to get away from you, you chased him down and forced him to submit to more debasement; all this was when he was in desperate need of mental health care. What else did you do to Brian Wilson, Rocky?
Um, Emily, I think Rocky was mocking Mike's voice. Not Brian's.
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