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Title: Stack-o-Tracks Post by: Mikie on August 19, 2014, 10:23:28 AM Released 46 years ago today, August 19, 1968. Carl & Desper's baby. Shoulda been called "The Beach Boys Meet The Wrecking Crew". Although a few of the tracks were played by The Boys themselves. Should it have been a vocals only album instead since The Beach Boys were more known for their vocal arrangements? Was this the first "karaoke" record of all time?
Which copies of Stack-o-Tracks do you have? An original American vinyl copy in stereo? An original American vinyl copy in mono? Do you have an original copy with the book? How about the reissued UK vinyl copy from 1976? Or the reissued U.S. vinyl copy from 1994? The 1990 or 2001 reissue on CD? Other? Title: Re: Stack-o-Tracks Post by: Orange Crate Art on August 19, 2014, 10:29:23 AM I have an original stereo copy DKAO 2893 minus the 16 page song book. The vinyl and the cover are in good condition. My favorite BB album cover of all time! I bought it on ebay back in 2000.
Title: Re: Stack-o-Tracks Post by: Jon Stebbins on August 19, 2014, 11:05:37 AM Released 46 years ago today, August 19, 1968. Carl & Desper's baby. Shoulda been called "The Beach Boys Meet The Wrecking Crew". Although a few of the tracks were played by The Boys themselves. A few? Try 9 out of the 15 tracks feature the Beach Boys on the core instruments. Darlin, In My Room, Catch A Wave, Wild Honey, Little Saint Nick, Do It Again, Surfer Girl, Little Honda, You're So Good To Me all are predominantly the Beach Boys themselves on the instruments.Title: Re: Stack-o-Tracks Post by: Mikie on August 19, 2014, 11:20:54 AM .............and I was careful about my wording because I KNEW you'd be reading this, Jon. See? In the olden days of Beach Boys fandom, before extensive research was done on who played what, I could get away with a general statement, and nobody woulda argued that the Wrecking Crew did most of those instrumental tracks after 1963. Now? We pretty much know who played what thanks to research. And it didn't end in the 60's. Wrecking Crew members were still playing on Beach Boys records after that.
So. Instead of a "few" tracks, how about "a little more than half" (9/15") of the songs on Stack-o-Tracks were played by The Beach Boys. Howsat? Listen. I'll bet my left nut that record buyers who bought Stack-o-Tracks back in '68 thought it was The Beach Boys themselves playing all those tracks on the album. Even the chords to the songs were provided and pictures of the group along with the picture of that BIG stack of recording tape with them standing around it made one think that The Beach Boys did it all. Title: Re: Stack-o-Tracks Post by: drbeachboy on August 19, 2014, 11:27:47 AM I have the UK vinyl and both CD releases. I do have a near mint Party album with all of the cards intact. Though, I forgets if I have the mono or duophonic. It's been many moons since I last pulled it out.
Title: Re: Stack-o-Tracks Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on August 19, 2014, 12:05:04 PM Released 46 years ago today, August 19, 1968. Carl & Desper's baby. Shoulda been called "The Beach Boys Meet The Wrecking Crew". Although a few of the tracks were played by The Boys themselves. A few? Try 9 out of the 15 tracks feature the Beach Boys on the core instruments. Darlin, In My Room, Catch A Wave, Wild Honey, Little Saint Nick, Do It Again, Surfer Girl, Little Honda, You're So Good To Me all are predominantly the Beach Boys themselves on the instruments.I thought Darlin used studio musicians . Was the version intended for Redwood a different backing track ? Title: Re: Stack-o-Tracks Post by: Jon Stebbins on August 19, 2014, 12:08:11 PM .............and I was careful about my wording because I KNEW you'd be reading this, Jon. See? In the olden days of Beach Boys fandom, before extensive research was done on who played what, I could get away with a general statement, and nobody woulda argued that the Wrecking Crew did most of those instrumental tracks after 1963. Now? We pretty much know who played what thanks to research. And it didn't end in the 60's. Wrecking Crew members were still playing on Beach Boys records after that. That's right, we did think they played everything and then in about '75 suddenly all the inside musicos began a transition to believing Brian hired session musicians for nearly all of the Beach Boys tracks after the first album or two. They were spurred on by David Leaf and others who heightened the myth that the Beach Boys were mainly vocalists and didn't play much on the records, and that became the general meme throughout articles and anecdotes regarding the Beach Boys. And now, armed with actual INFORMATION and FACTS we begin the long, sometimes annoying, and often dismissed work of trying to turn the general consensus back towards what actually happened, and who actually did what on the records. I think it's important that people know, even people who aren't huge Beach Boys fans, that Brian, Carl, Dennis, Al, Dave and Bruce provided the majority of the musicianship on so many Beach Boys classics. They worked hard, did a great job, and they deserve to be credited for what they did, and not written off as vocalists who didn't play much in the studio. So...I nit pick, and hope people absorb and share with those that still don't get it. It's a process.So. Instead of a "few" tracks, how about "a little more than half" (9/15") of the songs on Stack-o-Tracks were played by The Beach Boys. Howsat? Listen. I'll bet my left nut that record buyers who bought Stack-o-Tracks back in '68 thought it was The Beach Boys themselves playing all those tracks on the album. Even the chords to the songs were provided and pictures of the group along with the picture of that BIG stack of recording tape with them standing around it made one think that The Beach Boys did it all. Title: Re: Stack-o-Tracks Post by: Jon Stebbins on August 19, 2014, 12:11:39 PM Released 46 years ago today, August 19, 1968. Carl & Desper's baby. Shoulda been called "The Beach Boys Meet The Wrecking Crew". Although a few of the tracks were played by The Boys themselves. A few? Try 9 out of the 15 tracks feature the Beach Boys on the core instruments. Darlin, In My Room, Catch A Wave, Wild Honey, Little Saint Nick, Do It Again, Surfer Girl, Little Honda, You're So Good To Me all are predominantly the Beach Boys themselves on the instruments.I thought Darlin used studio musicians . Was the version intended for Redwood a different backing track ? Title: Re: Stack-o-Tracks Post by: Lowbacca on August 19, 2014, 12:12:01 PM .............and I was careful about my wording because I KNEW you'd be reading this, Jon. See? In the olden days of Beach Boys fandom, before extensive research was done on who played what, I could get away with a general statement, and nobody woulda argued that the Wrecking Crew did most of those instrumental tracks after 1963. Now? We pretty much know who played what thanks to research. And it didn't end in the 60's. Wrecking Crew members were still playing on Beach Boys records after that. That's right, we did think they played everything and then in about '75 suddenly all the inside musicos began a transition to believing Brian hired session musicians for nearly all of the Beach Boys tracks after the first album or two. They were spurred on by David Leaf and others who heightened the myth that the Beach Boys were mainly vocalists and didn't play much on the records, and that became the general meme throughout articles and anecdotes regarding the Beach Boys. And now, armed with actual INFORMATION and FACTS we begin the long, sometimes annoying, and often dismissed work of trying to turn the general consensus back towards what actually happened, and who actually did what on the records. I think it's important that people know, even people who aren't huge Beach Boys fans, that Brian, Carl, Dennis, Al, Dave and Bruce provided the majority of the musicianship on so many Beach Boys classics. They worked hard, did a great job, and they deserve to be credited for what they did, and not written off as vocalists who didn't play much in the studio. So...I nit pick, and hope people absorb and share with those that still don't get it. It's a process.So. Instead of a "few" tracks, how about "a little more than half" (9/15") of the songs on Stack-o-Tracks were played by The Beach Boys. Howsat? Listen. I'll bet my left nut that record buyers who bought Stack-o-Tracks back in '68 thought it was The Beach Boys themselves playing all those tracks on the album. Even the chords to the songs were provided and pictures of the group along with the picture of that BIG stack of recording tape with them standing around it made one think that The Beach Boys did it all. Title: Re: Stack-o-Tracks Post by: donald on August 19, 2014, 12:33:22 PM I bought the LP in a Nashville shop many years ago. Probably paid too much but was delighted to have it finally. It has the music booklet. The cover shows some ringwear. the vinyl is pretty good. The thing is, since all of the CD releases of instrumental tracks, (not to mention the CD twofer), I never listen to the vinyl, which at one time was the only source for these tracks. Maybe I'll frame it and hang the cover with the rest of my special and signed BB albums.
Title: Re: Stack-o-Tracks Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on August 19, 2014, 12:55:39 PM Released 46 years ago today, August 19, 1968. Carl & Desper's baby. Shoulda been called "The Beach Boys Meet The Wrecking Crew". Although a few of the tracks were played by The Boys themselves. A few? Try 9 out of the 15 tracks feature the Beach Boys on the core instruments. Darlin, In My Room, Catch A Wave, Wild Honey, Little Saint Nick, Do It Again, Surfer Girl, Little Honda, You're So Good To Me all are predominantly the Beach Boys themselves on the instruments.I thought Darlin used studio musicians . Was the version intended for Redwood a different backing track ? Well, hell, if that was indeed them on the track other than the horns, then it makes perfect sense that they refused to let Brian give he song away (assuming the story was true). Title: Re: Stack-o-Tracks Post by: bgas on August 19, 2014, 02:01:15 PM Which copies of Stack-o-Tracks do you have? An original American vinyl copy in stereo? An original American vinyl copy in mono? Do you have an original copy with the book? How about the reissued UK vinyl copy from 1976? The 1990 or 2001 reissue on CD? Other? Yes yes! Let's see one! I REALLY REALLY want to see a MONO USA Stack-o-Tracks LP!! Title: Re: Stack-o-Tracks Post by: Rocker on August 19, 2014, 02:21:07 PM Released 46 years ago today, August 19, 1968. Carl & Desper's baby. Shoulda been called "The Beach Boys Meet The Wrecking Crew". Although a few of the tracks were played by The Boys themselves. A few? Try 9 out of the 15 tracks feature the Beach Boys on the core instruments. Darlin, In My Room, Catch A Wave, Wild Honey, Little Saint Nick, Do It Again, Surfer Girl, Little Honda, You're So Good To Me all are predominantly the Beach Boys themselves on the instruments.I thought Darlin used studio musicians . Was the version intended for Redwood a different backing track ? Well, hell, if that was indeed them on the track other than the horns, then it makes perfect sense that they refused to let Brian give he song away (assuming the story was true). Yeah, I thought the same thing. If it was not intended for the Beach Boys, why have them play on it? I would love to see some scans or pictures of the music booklet. Are there any? Title: Re: Stack-o-Tracks Post by: mikeddonn on August 19, 2014, 02:35:59 PM Just last week I bought a mint copy of the Japanese 1992 LP reissue. It's a thing of beauty. Contains the same mixes as the 1990 cd I believe. :-D. This completes my collection of having every Beach Boys album on vinyl (sometimes several times over) with one exception!
I also have the 1990 twofer, the Japanese 1998 cd and a UK vinyl with alternate cover. In 1992 at the Stomp convention someone was selling the booklets (I would imagine they were copies) and I bought one, which was good because the 1990 cd didn't have one. The notations are pretty accurate, better than a lot of the books. Title: Re: Stack-o-Tracks Post by: Mikie on August 19, 2014, 02:52:20 PM Just last week I bought a mint copy of the Japanese 1992 LP reissue. It's a thing of beauty. Contains the same mixes as the 1990 cd I believe. :-D The Japanese vinyl reissue of Stack-o-Tracks came out in '92; the Japanese CD reissue came out in 1998. Good ones! Title: Re: Stack-o-Tracks Post by: Mikie on August 19, 2014, 03:02:15 PM In the late 70's I was in Castro Valley, Ca. and stopped by a used record shop. After looking through the records there, I found something I didn't have and was standing near the front counter ready to pay for it. Suddenly, an African American gentleman came through the front door with records and stacked them on the counter. Then he went out to his car and brought in another stack and put them on the counter. At first, I thought they were mostly going to be R&B and Motown and maybe some Rock & Roll stuff. While the owner of the store was distracted with another paying customer, I asked the man if it was OK to look at his records. He said, "Sure!". About half way down one of the tall stacks, I found an original "Stack-O-Tracks". It was about M-/VG++ but didn't have the booklet. I already have one with the book, but I asked the guy how much he wanted for the record and he said, "Ah, make me an offer". I said, "How about $5.00?", thinking that he didn't know what he had. Sure enough, he didn't know what he had and he took my $5.00!!! After I paid him and the store owner what I owed him, the owner said to me, "Why did you do that?" I innocently replied, "What?" "As soon as a customer comes into my store with records for sale, they're in my jurisdiction and I get first choice" (or something like that). "Please don't come into my store again". I said, "OK". and walked away a very happy man! I believe the store owner knew the value of this one and it would have ended up for sale on the wall behind the counter with big dollar signs on it, along with his other rare records.
Title: Re: Stack-o-Tracks Post by: branaa09 on August 19, 2014, 03:03:21 PM This album along with the great 1990-2001 bonus tracks, had a huge impact on my love for the Beach Boys. After I heard Stack-O-Tracks I wanted all kinds of Backing Tracks to analyze and study. I searched for bootleg sessions, made my own Backing Track cds. I even mix my own backing tracks from other artist songs to listen to using Rock Band and Guitar Hero sound files.
Title: Re: Stack-o-Tracks Post by: Alan Smith on August 19, 2014, 03:20:52 PM I've got in order of purchase:
Japanese '98 CD - love that they reproduced the chord sheet and didn't quibble about the size of the cd booklet unlike the; '01 Twofer - bonus tracks! UK 76 Vinyl - not a bad pressing imo Enjoyable stuff, although I find the verses of Darlin' drag a bit and really need the energy of the vox. Title: Re: Stack-o-Tracks Post by: metal flake paint on August 19, 2014, 03:54:33 PM Stack-o-Tracks proves that many of Brian's instrumental productions can stand on their own, sans vocals.
Amongst my collection, my favourite issue is DKAO 8-2893 with booklet, featuring alternate photos of Carl and Bruce. Title: Re: Stack-o-Tracks Post by: GhostyTMRS on August 19, 2014, 06:45:07 PM .............and I was careful about my wording because I KNEW you'd be reading this, Jon. See? In the olden days of Beach Boys fandom, before extensive research was done on who played what, I could get away with a general statement, and nobody woulda argued that the Wrecking Crew did most of those instrumental tracks after 1963. Now? We pretty much know who played what thanks to research. And it didn't end in the 60's. Wrecking Crew members were still playing on Beach Boys records after that. That's right, we did think they played everything and then in about '75 suddenly all the inside musicos began a transition to believing Brian hired session musicians for nearly all of the Beach Boys tracks after the first album or two. They were spurred on by David Leaf and others who heightened the myth that the Beach Boys were mainly vocalists and didn't play much on the records, and that became the general meme throughout articles and anecdotes regarding the Beach Boys. And now, armed with actual INFORMATION and FACTS we begin the long, sometimes annoying, and often dismissed work of trying to turn the general consensus back towards what actually happened, and who actually did what on the records. I think it's important that people know, even people who aren't huge Beach Boys fans, that Brian, Carl, Dennis, Al, Dave and Bruce provided the majority of the musicianship on so many Beach Boys classics. They worked hard, did a great job, and they deserve to be credited for what they did, and not written off as vocalists who didn't play much in the studio. So...I nit pick, and hope people absorb and share with those that still don't get it. It's a process.So. Instead of a "few" tracks, how about "a little more than half" (9/15") of the songs on Stack-o-Tracks were played by The Beach Boys. Howsat? Listen. I'll bet my left nut that record buyers who bought Stack-o-Tracks back in '68 thought it was The Beach Boys themselves playing all those tracks on the album. Even the chords to the songs were provided and pictures of the group along with the picture of that BIG stack of recording tape with them standing around it made one think that The Beach Boys did it all. Jon hits upon what's become a sore spot for me. You'd be surprised to learn just how many "rock historians" are now under the impression that The Beach Boys never played a note in the studio. I've watched this business go from the Wrecking Crew not getting any credit, to finally getting credit, to now getting credit for tracks they never even played on!!! It's maddening. It doesn't help when guys like Davy Jones (RIP and I love the guy and all) are complicit in spreading this lie to bolster their own reputation. Title: Re: Stack-o-Tracks Post by: bgas on August 19, 2014, 07:43:27 PM Stack-o-Tracks proves that many of Brian's instrumental productions can stand on their own, sans vocals. Amongst my collection, my favourite issue is DKAO 8-2893 with booklet, featuring alternate photos of Carl and Bruce. The Capitol Club version( DKAO 8-2893 ) is indeed a neat one to have!! My collection for the LP: USA DKAO-2893 w/ booklet USA Capitol Club DKAO-8-2893 w/ booklet ( The Cover has DKAO 8-2893; the labels have DKA0-82893 ) ALL the booklets for both the stock and the Capitol Club have the Catalog number on the back of the booklet as SKAO-2893 USA 4 Track Cartridge 4CL-2893 USA Front, back and inside Cover slicks( the Catalog number folds over to the front from the inside slick) with extra large booklet slicks USA Front Cover Color Separations To the best of my knowledge there were never any USA original releases on 8 Track, Reel to Reel, or Cassette. There is a later Capitol Cassette release: C4 7243 8 29641 4 8 The insert folds open to show some of the photos and the fingering charts for the chords, but not the music. UK issue E-ST 24009 No booklet was included This was also issued on Cassette TC-E-ST 24009 There is a Canadian Issue w/ booklet, but I don't own it. (Not certain if it's a US or Canadian printed booklet) Does anyone know of any other issues on Vinyl/tape other than the Japanese LP? ( Japanese LP numbered TOJP-7241 ) Just last week I bought a mint copy of the Japanese 1992 LP reissue. It's a thing of beauty. Contains the same mixes as the 1990 cd I believe. :-D. This completes my collection of having every Beach Boys album on vinyl (sometimes several times over) with one exception! I presume the one exception is SIP on vinyl? Title: Re: Stack-o-Tracks Post by: c-man on August 19, 2014, 09:05:23 PM Released 46 years ago today, August 19, 1968. Carl & Desper's baby. Shoulda been called "The Beach Boys Meet The Wrecking Crew". Although a few of the tracks were played by The Boys themselves. A few? Try 9 out of the 15 tracks feature the Beach Boys on the core instruments. Darlin, In My Room, Catch A Wave, Wild Honey, Little Saint Nick, Do It Again, Surfer Girl, Little Honda, You're So Good To Me all are predominantly the Beach Boys themselves on the instruments.I thought Darlin used studio musicians . Was the version intended for Redwood a different backing track ? Well...I was saving it for Volume 3 of the upcoming MIC online sessionography, but since we're on the subject..."Darlin" was cut with Brian on piano, Ron Brown on bass...and Carl on drums (a real simple beat for the benefit of the other two). Subsequently, Hal Blaine was brought in to overdub the "real" drums, and a five-piece horn section was also added. That was the original version intended for Redwood. Then, The Beach Boys added sundry overdubs (ukulele, miscellaneous percussion, and what sounds like a bass concertina). That third session is where the AFM contract with the Boys' names comes from. Original 1968 vinyl "Stereo" DKAO-2893 with all the trimmins' (bought second-hand, of course...I was in kindergarten in '68!). Plus the 1976 UK issue, the 1990 Capitol CD twofer w/"Party!", and maybe the original Japanese issue CD (been so long that I've seen my Japanese CDs, I can't remember!) - all bought brand new at the time of issue. Title: Re: Stack-o-Tracks Post by: Mikie on August 19, 2014, 09:34:46 PM Here's my collection of Stack-O-Tracks. Beat this, mofos.....
The Beach Boys, Stack-O-Tracks, Capitol Records #DKAO-2893 [Duophonic] (1968).[Gatefold LP with Booklet] The Beach Boys, Stack-O-Tracks, Capitol Records #DKAO-2893 (1968).[LP with no Booklet] The Beach Boys, Stack-O-Tracks, Capitol Records #DKAO-8-2893 [Duophonic] (1968).[Capitol Record Club Edition] The Beach Boys, Stack-O-Tracks, Capitol Records-EMI Music [Canada] #DKAO-2893 [Duophonic] (1968).[LP] The Beach Boys, Stack-O-Tracks, Capitol Records-EMI Music [UK] #E-ST 24009 (1976). [LP] The Beach Boys, Beach Boys' Party!/Stack-O-Tracks, Capitol Records-[US] CDP 7 93698 2(1990) CD The Beach Boys, Beach Boys' Party!/Stack-O-Tracks, Capitol Records-[US] 72435-31641-2-6 (2001) CD The Beach Boys, Beach Boys' Party!/Stack-O-Tracks, Capitol Records-EMI-Toshiba [Japan] #TOCP-6514 (1990).[2-in-1 CD Reissue with three Bonus Tracks] The Beach Boys, Beach Boys’ Party!/Stack-O-Tracks, Capitol Records-EMI [UK] #CDP 7 93698 2 (1990).[2-in-1 CD Reissue with three Bonus Tracks] The Beach Boys, Beach Boys’ Party!/Stack-O-Tracks, Capitol Records #C2 93698 (1990).[2-in-1 CD Reissue with three Bonus Tracks] The Beach Boys, Stack-O-Tracks, Capitol Records-EMI-Toshiba [Japan] #TOJP-7241 (1992).[Audiophile LP Reissue with Booklet] The Beach Boys, Stack-O-Tracks, Capitol Records #C1-29641 (1994).[LP Reissue] The Beach Boys, Stack-O-Tracks, Capitol Records-EMI-Toshiba [Japan] #TOCP-3326 (1997).[CD Reissue with Lyric sheet & Booklet] The Beach Boys, Stack-O-Tracks, EMI Music [Japan] #TOCP-50863 (1998, 2008).[Mini LP-style CD Reissue with Lyric sheet & Booklet] The Beach Boys, Stack-O-Tracks, Capitol Records-EMI-Toshiba [Japan] #TOCP-50863 (1998).[DJ/Promo Mini LP-style CD Reissue with Lyric sheet & Booklet] The Beach Boys, Beach Boys’ Party!/Stack-O-Tracks, Capitol Records-EMI [UK & U.S.] #72435-31641-2/6 (2001).[2-in-1 HDCD Reissue with 3 Boner Tracks] The Beach Boys, Stack-O-Tracks, Capitol Records-EMI-Toshiba [Japan] (2001).[Remastered CD Reissue] Title: Re: Stack-o-Tracks Post by: Jon Stebbins on August 19, 2014, 10:22:17 PM Released 46 years ago today, August 19, 1968. Carl & Desper's baby. Shoulda been called "The Beach Boys Meet The Wrecking Crew". Although a few of the tracks were played by The Boys themselves. A few? Try 9 out of the 15 tracks feature the Beach Boys on the core instruments. Darlin, In My Room, Catch A Wave, Wild Honey, Little Saint Nick, Do It Again, Surfer Girl, Little Honda, You're So Good To Me all are predominantly the Beach Boys themselves on the instruments.I thought Darlin used studio musicians . Was the version intended for Redwood a different backing track ? Well...I was saving it for Volume 3 of the upcoming MIC online sessionography, but since we're on the subject..."Darlin" was cut with Brian on piano, Ron Brown on bass...and Carl on drums (a real simple beat for the benefit of the other two). Subsequently, Hal Blaine was brought in to overdub the "real" drums, and a five-piece horn section was also added. That was the original version intended for Redwood. Then, The Beach Boys added sundry overdubs (ukulele, miscellaneous percussion, and what sounds like a bass concertina). That third session is where the AFM contract with the Boys' names comes from. Title: Re: Stack-o-Tracks Post by: Gabo on August 19, 2014, 11:04:36 PM .............and I was careful about my wording because I KNEW you'd be reading this, Jon. See? In the olden days of Beach Boys fandom, before extensive research was done on who played what, I could get away with a general statement, and nobody woulda argued that the Wrecking Crew did most of those instrumental tracks after 1963. Now? We pretty much know who played what thanks to research. And it didn't end in the 60's. Wrecking Crew members were still playing on Beach Boys records after that. That's right, we did think they played everything and then in about '75 suddenly all the inside musicos began a transition to believing Brian hired session musicians for nearly all of the Beach Boys tracks after the first album or two. They were spurred on by David Leaf and others who heightened the myth that the Beach Boys were mainly vocalists and didn't play much on the records, and that became the general meme throughout articles and anecdotes regarding the Beach Boys. And now, armed with actual INFORMATION and FACTS we begin the long, sometimes annoying, and often dismissed work of trying to turn the general consensus back towards what actually happened, and who actually did what on the records. I think it's important that people know, even people who aren't huge Beach Boys fans, that Brian, Carl, Dennis, Al, Dave and Bruce provided the majority of the musicianship on so many Beach Boys classics. They worked hard, did a great job, and they deserve to be credited for what they did, and not written off as vocalists who didn't play much in the studio. So...I nit pick, and hope people absorb and share with those that still don't get it. It's a process.So. Instead of a "few" tracks, how about "a little more than half" (9/15") of the songs on Stack-o-Tracks were played by The Beach Boys. Howsat? Listen. I'll bet my left nut that record buyers who bought Stack-o-Tracks back in '68 thought it was The Beach Boys themselves playing all those tracks on the album. Even the chords to the songs were provided and pictures of the group along with the picture of that BIG stack of recording tape with them standing around it made one think that The Beach Boys did it all. Such an injustice Title: Re: Stack-o-Tracks Post by: bgas on August 20, 2014, 04:04:48 AM The Beach Boys, Stack-O-Tracks, Capitol Records-EMI Music [Canada] #DKAO-2893 [Duophonic] (1968).[LP] No Booklet? The Beach Boys, Stack-O-Tracks, Capitol Records-EMI [UK] #E-ST 24009 (1968).[LP] Interesting that you have this as it wasn't released until 1976. Must be a typo! Nonetheless, Quite a nice collection!! I suppose you have every CD issue to date? Title: Re: Stack-o-Tracks Post by: Mikie on August 20, 2014, 07:25:49 AM Actually, I just removed that one from the list, as I had the correct info for the record on the line underneath it. Typo. It's the reissue from 1976.
Title: Re: Stack-o-Tracks Post by: Rocker on August 20, 2014, 11:57:33 AM I haven't listened to it for a while but I remember always thinking that something was wrong with GOK's outro (except for the missing vocals of course :-D). At one time I even thought they edited parts of the intro in that place (probably nonsense). Dunno....
BTW it's been mentioned on this board and I would like to agree that the cover of the album is great. One of their best imo Title: Re: Stack-o-Tracks Post by: Mikie on August 20, 2014, 12:39:25 PM I always thought they coulda spent a little more time preventing the leakage. Don't think it was intentional but a mistake that got through.
Title: Re: Stack-o-Tracks Post by: bgas on August 20, 2014, 02:33:14 PM Actually, I just removed that one from the list, as I had the correct info for the record on the line underneath it. Typo. It's the reissue from 1976. OK, that makes sense! And your Canadian issue does/doesn't have the booklet? Here's my collection of Stack-O-Tracks. Beat this, mofos..... The Beach Boys, Stack-O-Tracks, Capitol Records #DKAO-2893 [Duophonic] (1968).[Gatefold LP with Booklet] The Beach Boys, Stack-O-Tracks, Capitol Records #DKAO-2893 (1968).[LP with no Booklet] I removed most of your list( obviously) but I didn't realize you wanted everyone to list EVERY Copy we have. As with many ( Most?) collectors, I have multiple copies of almost all their releases, in varying conditions. \ I think in the case of this one, I have 4 or 5 of the USA stock and at least 3 of the Capitol Club. With the Club, the best reason to get it is the alternate photos, as everything else is the same. Title: Re: Stack-o-Tracks Post by: Mikie on August 20, 2014, 03:31:12 PM OK, I'll come clean. I only have six of those items on that list. And that's really all I care to have at this point. I bought my original U.S. copies back in the 70's and didn't pay ridiculous prices for them. But the above list of U.S., UK, and Japanese pressings of the album is pretty comprehensive. It's what's out there, and I'm sure there are many more from other countries.
Title: Re: Stack-o-Tracks Post by: bgas on August 20, 2014, 06:53:04 PM OK, I'll come clean. I only have six of those items on that list. And that's really all I care to have at this point. I bought my original U.S. copies back in the 70's and didn't pay ridiculous prices for them. But the above list of U.S., UK, and Japanese pressings of the album is pretty comprehensive. It's what's out there, and I'm sure there are many more from other countries. Darn it all, Mikie!! Here I was thinking you really DO have a collection. Since you're sure there are many more from other countries, I hope someone points them out. Figure if anyone here has other CDs not mentioned, it would be beachboys_fr Title: Re: Stack-o-Tracks Post by: Mikie on August 20, 2014, 07:18:48 PM Darn it all, Mikie!! Here I was thinking you really DO have a collection. But I do have a collection, Bgas. I really do. It's a nice one and I'm happy with it. I just don't have that dire need for competition and for playing "one-upmanship" with others, that's all. Title: Re: Stack-o-Tracks Post by: bgas on August 20, 2014, 07:22:31 PM Darn it all, Mikie!! Here I was thinking you really DO have a collection. But I do have a collection, Bgas. I really do. It's a nice one and I'm happy with it. I just don't have that dire need for competition and to play "one-upmanship" with other collectors all the time, that's all. WOW! There are folks playing "one-upmanship" ? Who are they? Title: Re: Stack-o-Tracks Post by: Mitchell on August 20, 2014, 07:27:43 PM I have the EMI Canada '68 copy with booklet. In the corner on the back of the booklet it says "Printed in the USA."
And since we're at it, I also have a '76 UK issue and the 2001 Party twofer. Title: Re: Stack-o-Tracks Post by: bgas on August 20, 2014, 07:36:56 PM I have the EMI Canada '68 copy with booklet. In the corner on the back of the booklet it says "Printed in the USA." Thanxx! Title: Re: Stack-o-Tracks Post by: Mitchell on August 20, 2014, 08:10:49 PM I imagine the Canadian copy may technically be "rarer" than the US copy. Any idea how many copies it sold in Canada compared to the US/elsewhere?
Title: Re: Stack-o-Tracks Post by: branaa09 on August 20, 2014, 08:30:17 PM I always thought they coulda spent a little more time preventing the leakage. Don't think it was intentional but a mistake that got through. Are you referring to the quiet vocals on some of the Backing Tracks? It's most noticeable on Catch a Wave and Little Saint Nick. I think it was some to with how old tracks are, for example listen to the Backing Track for Surfin' USA and Fun, Fun, Fun on Hawthorne. There is still some slight bleed from vocals, even though the tracks were recorded first before vocals. Maybe only the finished master exists for a couple of early songs at the time, so the vocals have a bleed onto the basic tracks? Maybe someone can clear this up. Title: Re: Stack-o-Tracks Post by: stack-o-tracks on August 20, 2014, 08:31:50 PM My name is stack-o-tracks and I really never listen to this album. Catchy name though.
Title: Re: Stack-o-Tracks Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on August 20, 2014, 08:33:27 PM :lol
Title: Re: Stack-o-Tracks Post by: Mikie on August 20, 2014, 08:56:32 PM Are you referring to the quiet vocals on some of the Backing Tracks? It's most noticeable on Catch a Wave and Little Saint Nick. Yeah, the leakage was discussed before, but I forget where. It seems like somebody (Desper or Carl?) was in a hurry and at the ends of the songs the vocals appear. I don't believe this was on purpose (like a couple of songs from the Pet Sounds Box Set) where the vocals appear and disappear again in favor of hearing the backing track. I think it's a mistake, but if it was bleed-over from an adjacent track, you would have noticed it at the beginning or middle of the song too, right? I know Steve Desper would have an explanation. This is the first Beach Boys album he worked on. Maybe it happened during the mixing or mastering; maybe it didn't. But I don't think it was intentional. Title: Re: Stack-o-Tracks Post by: c-man on August 20, 2014, 09:23:59 PM Are you referring to the quiet vocals on some of the Backing Tracks? It's most noticeable on Catch a Wave and Little Saint Nick. Yeah, the leakage was discussed before, but I forget where. It seems like somebody (Desper or Carl?) was in a hurry and at the ends of the songs the vocals appear. I don't believe this was on purpose (like a couple of songs from the Pet Sounds Box Set) where the vocals appear and disappear again in favor of hearing the backing track. I think it's a mistake, but if it was bleed-over from an adjacent track, you would have noticed it at the beginning or middle of the song too, right? I know Steve Desper would have an explanation. This is the first Beach Boys album he worked on. Maybe it happened during the mixing or mastering; maybe it didn't. But I don't think it was intentional. To me, it seems the vocals at the end of the "Stack O' Tracks" mix of "Little Saint Nick" are endearingly deliberate. And Desper has stated that he worked on "Smiley" and "Friends", which predate "Stacks". Title: Re: Stack-o-Tracks Post by: metal flake paint on August 20, 2014, 11:25:29 PM Seems as though the Stack-o-Tracks version of "Little Saint Nick" released as part of the 1977 UK single (CL 15954) suffers from the same vocal leakage.
Title: Re: Stack-o-Tracks Post by: Ebb and Flow on August 20, 2014, 11:52:28 PM The bleed through on Little St. Nick is there because they used the celesta/sleighbell track from the single version, which has "ghost" vocal leakage because it was overdubbed after the vocals had been recorded.
Title: Re: Stack-o-Tracks Post by: c-man on August 21, 2014, 04:10:01 AM The bleed through on Little St. Nick is there because they used the celesta/sleighbell track from the single version, which has "ghost" vocal leakage because it was overdubbed after the vocals had been recorded. And that's because they used a monitor speaker rather than headphones while adding that overdub. Which is also why you can hear "ghost" instruments on the a cappella mix of "Surfer Girl", for instance. Title: Re: Stack-o-Tracks Post by: Mikie on August 21, 2014, 07:32:07 AM Are you referring to the quiet vocals on some of the Backing Tracks? It's most noticeable on Catch a Wave and Little Saint Nick. Yeah, the leakage was discussed before, but I forget where. It seems like somebody (Desper or Carl?) was in a hurry and at the ends of the songs the vocals appear. I don't believe this was on purpose (like a couple of songs from the Pet Sounds Box Set) where the vocals appear and disappear again in favor of hearing the backing track. I think it's a mistake, but if it was bleed-over from an adjacent track, you would have noticed it at the beginning or middle of the song too, right? I know Steve Desper would have an explanation. This is the first Beach Boys album he worked on. Maybe it happened during the mixing or mastering; maybe it didn't. But I don't think it was intentional. To me, it seems the vocals at the end of the "Stack O' Tracks" mix of "Little Saint Nick" are endearingly deliberate. And Desper has stated that he worked on "Smiley" and "Friends", which predate "Stacks". Yeah, I distinctly remember Steve saying in a post one day that working with Carl on Stack-o-Tracks was when he first started working on Beach Boys recordings. Before I posted that, I looked up and down and around and couldn't find any credits for him on the Friends album, so I figured it was true. But he would know! Title: Re: Stack-o-Tracks Post by: Mikie on August 21, 2014, 10:16:51 AM Who else has an original Stack-O-Tracks album? It's considered a collectors item, and arguably/unarguably the hardest one to find, especially in very good condition with the booklet intact.
Title: Re: Stack-o-Tracks Post by: gxios on August 21, 2014, 12:54:54 PM I've got an original. In 1973 a box of sealed unsold ones showed up at an old Bethesda, MD store called Discount Book and Records. Price- $3.99. They also had a bunch of sealed duophonic "Party" albums for the same price- I bought both that day. The next week they were gone. Never seen or heard of a mono "Stack".
Title: Re: Stack-o-Tracks Post by: Andrew G. Doe on August 21, 2014, 01:48:55 PM Um... first BB album SWD worked on was Friends, which he mixed... or so he told me in 1985 (if you're being super picky, Smile was the first).
Title: Re: Stack-o-Tracks Post by: Mikie on August 21, 2014, 02:35:47 PM Um... first BB album SWD worked on was Friends, which he mixed... or so he told me in 1985 (if you're being super picky, Smile was the first). Funny. I just now did five (5) Google searches on the Friends album and on the various websites the name Jim Lockert came up under the "Engineer" credit. Mid-April '68, Badman has a musician named Vescovo coming into Brian's studio to play on Diamond Head with Lockert at the controls (I know, Badman stated it). And there's more references to Lockert for the album. Maybe both Desper and Lockert were working on various tracks for the album. Desper obviously worked on Do It Again in May, June '68. Title: Re: Stack-o-Tracks Post by: Mikie on August 21, 2014, 02:48:16 PM I've got an original. In 1973 a box of sealed unsold ones showed up at an old Bethesda, MD store called Discount Book and Records. Price- $3.99. They also had a bunch of sealed duophonic "Party" albums for the same price- I bought both that day. The next week they were gone. Never seen or heard of a mono "Stack". What a great find!! I found the original Party and All Summer Long albums sealed in a Ventura CA. record shop around 1973. Pretty sure I paid retail for them. And one time a box of Beatles 4x4 EP's was opened up at the Capitol Records swap meet in L.A. Guy who worked at Capitol (I think) backed up his truck and he was the star of the show that night. 20 bucks each brand new! Title: Re: Stack-o-Tracks Post by: c-man on August 22, 2014, 04:33:43 AM Um... first BB album SWD worked on was Friends, which he mixed... or so he told me in 1985 (if you're being super picky, Smile was the first). Funny. I just now did five (5) Google searches on the Friends album and on the various websites the name Jim Lockert came up under the "Engineer" credit. Mid-April '68, Badman has a musician named Vescovo coming into Brian's studio to play on Diamond Head with Lockert at the controls (I know, Badman stated it). And there's more references to Lockert for the album. Maybe both Desper and Lockert were working on various tracks for the album. Desper obviously worked on Do It Again in May, June '68. Per Desper, he subbed for an ailing Lockert on many "Smiley Smile" and "Friends" sessions. He also mixed "Friends" into stereo for the band. Uncredited, of course. |