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Smiley Smile Stuff / Album, Book and Video Reviews And Discussions / Re: Favourite post Love You album
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on: March 23, 2020, 08:23:54 AM
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M.I.U.'s replete with cool music. Agreed. Match Point of Our Love and My Diane, especially, are some of the best songs Brian wrote in late 70s. Another favorite of mine is Beach Boys '85. The production may be bland, but once you come to appreciate the strength of the songwriting, it really is an enjoyable album. Crack at Your Love and Male Ego are my favorites. I even have a soft spot for "throwaway" stuff like I'm So Lonely and It's Just a Matter of Time.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set
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on: March 18, 2020, 06:14:28 AM
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From what I can gather from BBFC site....
Made in California - press release on June 11, 2013 for the release on August 27
Beach Boys' Party: Uncovered and Unplugged - press release on Oct 22, 2015 for the release on November 20
Pet Sounds 50th - press release on March 23, 2016 for the release on June 10
Sunshine Tomorrow - press release on May 23, 2017 for the release on June 30
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson 2020 Live Thread
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on: February 27, 2020, 07:32:49 PM
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Two Japan gigs are confirmed today: May 6th, 2020: Tokyo Garden Theater, Tokyo, Japan May 7th, 2020: ZEPP Namba, Osaka, Japan Both are advertised to be "Brian Wilson Celebrates Pet Sounds and Greatest Hits with special guests Al Jardine & Blondie Chaplin", so no more "final performances". www.creativeman.co.jp/artist/2020/05brianwilson/I'm going to get myself a ticket and I'm excited for seeing Brian (and Al & Blondie) on stage for the first time, but I'm not sure if I really want them to come to Japan, where a coronavirus epidemic is going on, right now. Also, I worry about it being cancelled/postponed because of that.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set
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on: February 21, 2020, 09:10:01 PM
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Perhaps they could release the whole "Landlocked" album on vinyl to coincide with the box set and promote it as a "lost album".
Even though it's an album that didn't exist in the first place, it will probably help gather more attention from rock magazines and casual Beach Boys fans alike.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Which 70s albums will get full box sets, and which will just get digital dumps
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on: February 10, 2020, 06:54:58 PM
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In the Q&A session on Discord last year, Alan Boyd and Mark Linett talked about the future archival releases http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php?topic=26378.0: lando I’m gonna ask my question real quick since I have to go in a bit: How do you both see future album rarities getting released, especially for less well received albums? For instance, will we have to wait until 2035 to hear Beach Boys 85 outtakes, or until 2062 for That’s Why God Made The Radio outtakes?
Mark as far as the much later albums, its not likely we'd get much into those anytime soon since the 50 year stuff is a priority, but you never know when an overall project might make something feasible sooner
Alan As for future releases.... it's hard to say what Capitol will decide to do. The good thing about the new copyright extension legislation from the UK and Europe is that it kinda forces the label and the group to be proactive about releasing previously unreleased outtakes in order to keep the recordings from falling into the public domain over there.
I would loooooove to do a "Brian's Back" set covering 1976-1977. 15 Big Ones through the MIU Sessions
My guess is that the higher priority for now is going to be SUNFLOWER thru HOLLAND, partly because of the impending copyright issues on the unreleased tracks. LOVE YOU and ADULT CHILD are probably a bit further down the road. ihatepuns Oh one more question from me; might we one day see an official release of the original single LP of the In Concert album?
Mark I think a In Concert box is a possibility at some point. We have lots of unreleased shows from that project So I'd say, apart from Sunflower/Surf's Up box set, "Brian's Back" set covering 15BO to MIU and In Concert box set could happen in the future. CATP and Holland would be more tricky, but considering they have convinced the record company to put out archival stuff from Party! and Wild Honey sessions on CD, the same might happen with these albums, too. I don't see potential box set releases with LA, KTSA and BB85, honestly. Heck, they would probably have a hard time convincing them to put these stuff even on digital, and I'd be disappointed if that was the case as I believe there are some interesting stuff even with these albums.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Important Info For Those Who Signed Petition at change.org
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on: February 09, 2020, 02:14:18 AM
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The petition is now closed, but it appears the signatures will be sent to Boris Johnson, not The Beach Boys. This sucks so much.
I've seen a similar case where the starter changed what the petition says completely on change.org on Japanese media, and I read that it was deleted. I'm surprised it wasn't the case this time, and according to a post on the other forum, they said "it was fine for him to do that since he had posted a petition update".
This cast a serious doubt on the credibility of petitions on change.org, for sure. Say, one could've probably gone from "say no to a gig at trophy hunting convention" to "say YES".
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Please sign petition for Beach Boys to withdraw from performing on 2/5/20
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on: February 03, 2020, 08:38:40 PM
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“We look forward to a night of great music in Reno and, as always, support freedom of thought and expression as a fundamental tenet of our rights as Americans. Peace & Love, Mike Love.” This comment left me astounded. I hope Mike realizes that, while he has right to participate in the event on the grounds of "freedom of thought and expression", people have every right to protest the participation and boycott his future activity. That is "freedom of thought and expression", too.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Please sign petition for Beach Boys to withdraw from performing on 2/5/20
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on: February 02, 2020, 06:29:59 AM
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Also, I'm not a big fan, or rather skeptic about this "cancel culture". Let's put it this way: Imagine that Mike's Beach Boys didn't withdraw from the event, their sales declined, and the record label actually disowned the band. Would it contribute to raise people's awareness against trophy hunting? I honestly doubt it. Rather, I could see backlash happening: "The band that made Pet Sounds got cancelled just because some of the members performed at pro-hunting event"
On the flip side: imagine if people would be attracted to trophy hunting because The Beach Boys seem to be cool with it (if they go through with this event)? THAT is why I don't think boycotting the band is a bad idea. We're cool with ignoring the boycott if we think that The Beach Boys actually have zero influence on culture, but how about we act as if they do have influence on some people? I literally couldn't care less if The Beach Boys, Brian, Al, Wondermints lose sales over this. As in: if this is the culture that BRI or The Beach Boys want to support then they need to understand the consequences of supporting such an absolutely stupid cause. Sorry if this sounds provocative or something, but are you (assuming you have signed) actually ready not to buy the music of The Beach Boys as the petition pledges? Say, would you refrain from buying the rumored Sunflower/Surf's Up box set, or any upcoming archival releases if Mike joined the trophy-hunting event and had not apologized about it by then? I myself isn't, so that's partly the reason I didn't sign. (Perhaps you can say my fanboy-ism toward music is to blame, though, as I have bought Phil Spector's music even if he had committed murder and was in jail) I understand trophy hunting is a terrible thing to do, and their performance at the event should be criticized as it promotes trophy hunting and possibly make more people to do it. My point is, I think protesting against performing at the event/publicly criticize them for attendance is enough. You can even boycott them on your belief. However, I just don't think campaign for boycotting The Beach Boys would work, if to promote people's awareness against trophy hunting is your priority, and not to punish and exclude The Beach Boys from society. I think it would be unproportional to what they are going to do. For me, this is a statement to the current management/leadership of The Beach Boys: “continue to support the killing of trophy animals and I’ll stop supporting you. Continue to drag the band name through the mud and I’ll stop supporting you.” Of course the 60’s music has nothing to do with playing this gig. But from my perspective, if The Beach Boys play this gig then they are clearly supporting an immoral cause. If I buy their 60’s music I will be financially supporting them (and subsequently supporting trophy hunting). Put it this way: The Beach Boys are currently headlining an event that glorifies and supports the killing of living beings - not for the need of food but for their skins to be peeled off and their heads to be mounted on walls. If I continue to financially support this band if they continue to support this archaic “sport” then I am helping support this “sport” as well. Put it yet another way: if a more unknown band were headlining an event supporting the needless killing of animals no one would bat an eye at boycotting their music. But because it’s The Beach Boys suddenly we’re cool with financially supporting an entity that supports the needless killing of animals? As for your point on Spector, I still listen to Phil Spector because 1) I get he is mentally ill, 2) he isn’t actively supporting the murder of human beings. He made a terrible decision and he is paying the price for it. Whereas if The Beach Boys play this gig they will be actively supporting the slaughter of exotic animals. That is something I will not financially support. If Mike does play this gig and he goes all out Hall-of-Fame-night “you all need TM” on the crowd I will completely understand why they played and take back my words. Until then I just can’t justify financially supporting these guys if they willfully headline an event that supports trophy hunting. Thanks for a well-thought out reply. I'm still not going to sign with pretty much the same reason as juggler stated above, but I understand and respect your decision.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Please sign petition for Beach Boys to withdraw from performing on 2/5/20
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on: February 01, 2020, 09:00:11 PM
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(You might be technically able to blame Brian on the grounds that Brian reportedly has voted for Mike to use the Beach Boys brand for touring, and receive some of the revenue( http://endlessharmony.boards.net/post/5522/thread), but I'm not willing to subscribe to that logic) If Mike goes through with this concert and then was open to headlining more of these gigs then yes, I think that Brian, Carl's estate, and Al would absolutely be partial to blame in this. And I'm very outspoken of support for Brian's camp, but I can logically see why if Mike was attracting people to the "sport" of trophy hunting that Brian and Al would be to blame for allowing The Beach Boys name to continue to prop up such a heinous cause. Fair enough.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Please sign petition for Beach Boys to withdraw from performing on 2/5/20
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on: February 01, 2020, 08:59:35 PM
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Also, I'm not a big fan, or rather skeptic about this "cancel culture". Let's put it this way: Imagine that Mike's Beach Boys didn't withdraw from the event, their sales declined, and the record label actually disowned the band. Would it contribute to raise people's awareness against trophy hunting? I honestly doubt it. Rather, I could see backlash happening: "The band that made Pet Sounds got cancelled just because some of the members performed at pro-hunting event"
On the flip side: imagine if people would be attracted to trophy hunting because The Beach Boys seem to be cool with it (if they go through with this event)? THAT is why I don't think boycotting the band is a bad idea. We're cool with ignoring the boycott if we think that The Beach Boys actually have zero influence on culture, but how about we act as if they do have influence on some people? I literally couldn't care less if The Beach Boys, Brian, Al, Wondermints lose sales over this. As in: if this is the culture that BRI or The Beach Boys want to support then they need to understand the consequences of supporting such an absolutely stupid cause. Sorry if this sounds provocative or something, but are you (assuming you have signed) actually ready not to buy the music of The Beach Boys as the petition pledges? Say, would you refrain from buying the rumored Sunflower/Surf's Up box set, or any upcoming archival releases if Mike joined the trophy-hunting event and had not apologized about it by then? I myself isn't, so that's partly the reason I didn't sign. (Perhaps you can say my fanboy-ism toward music is to blame, though, as I have bought Phil Spector's music even if he had committed murder and was in jail) I understand trophy hunting is a terrible thing to do, and their performance at the event should be criticized as it promotes trophy hunting and possibly make more people to do it. My point is, I think protesting against performing at the event/publicly criticize them for attendance is enough. You can even boycott them on your belief. However, I just don't think campaign for boycotting The Beach Boys would work, if to promote people's awareness against trophy hunting is your priority, and not to punish and exclude The Beach Boys from society. I think it would be unproportional to what they are going to do.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Please sign petition for Beach Boys to withdraw from performing on 2/5/20
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on: February 01, 2020, 07:49:08 PM
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I think it's very thoughtless of Mike to attend pro-trophy hunting event. He (and those in the management team) should've known that a lot of people wouldn't tolerate those who kill for fun, and on business perspective, this would hurt the band's brand and immensely damage future revenue from touring and merchandise. That being said, take a look at what the petition states: We the undersigned pledge to stop buying or downloading all Beach Boys music, going to Beach Boys concerts, and purchasing any Beach Boys merchandise until the Beach Boys withdraw from the SCI Convention and publicly state their opposition to this sick ‘sport’ of killing animals for ‘fun’.
We will call on the Beach Boys' record label, agent and publicists to disown the Beach Boys, and on members of the public to protest at forthcoming Beach Boys concerts, unless they do so. I can't quite agree with this, as this would surely affect the revenue of Brian, Al and Carl's estate who we're not sure have agreed with the attendance in the first place. Plus, those unfamiliar with the business side of the band might quit going to Brian and Al's show in protest against trophy hunting. The petition should've clarified that Mike and Bruce are the only ones currently tour as the the Beach Boys, and Brian and Al tours separately as a solo act. (You might be technically able to blame Brian on the grounds that Brian reportedly has voted for Mike to use the Beach Boys brand for touring, and receive some of the revenue( http://endlessharmony.boards.net/post/5522/thread), but I'm not willing to subscribe to that logic) Also, I'm not a big fan, or rather skeptic about this "cancel culture". Let's put it this way: Imagine that Mike's Beach Boys didn't withdraw from the event, their sales declined, and the record label actually disowned the band. Would it contribute to raise people's awareness against trophy hunting? I honestly doubt it. Rather, I could see backlash happening: "The band that made Pet Sounds got cancelled just because some of the members performed at pro-hunting event" would for sure be added to the list of "Nowadays you can't even say Merry Christmas". I believe people have every right to protest against hunting for fun etc, but it should be done in a way that would not socially exclude those who did the wrongdoings, or the backlash would be immense and original goal of the protest would be at stake. So, to sum it up: I agree that Mike should withdraw from pro-trophy hunting event, but I disagree that we should boycott The Beach Boys. Thus I had to refrain from signing the petition.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: \
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on: January 25, 2020, 01:42:43 PM
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As for this: Excuse me Mr. Desper, but I'm pretty sure SydBarett used "you know" merely as interjection, not to refer to things that you share from your experience/knowledge.
A recommendation moving forward: If someone is not involved in the matter(s) at hand between other members and posts, I'd recommend staying out of it and not speaking for or seeming to defend other members who can speak for themselves. Let the original poster reply if clarification is needed, and let the admins here sort out anything that needs sorting beyond that. Sure, I will. Thanks.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: \
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on: January 24, 2020, 08:29:15 PM
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Cannot believe a poster - who thinks period usage at the end of sentences is optional - has the chutzpah to try and "chime in" and grammar police Stephen (and also missing the point and being totally incorrect in their initial assumptions). Why? What's the bloody point? Blows my mind. Well, I just worried if Mr. Desper misunderstood SydBarrett's post as an attack against his insight (which could possibly make him less comfortable about sharing it here), and pointed out it wasn't. I absolutely meant no offense against Mr. Desper, and I'm sorry if he took it as any kind of offense. And yes, I agree that the original poster should have used comma before the word "you know" to avoid confusion.
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