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By dark I mean either lyrically heavy or downbeat, or perhaps musically atonal, depressing (and ultimately uplifting) or downright eerie. Of course this is a matter of opinion. I know thats a bit vague, heres some I can think of (This can include covers, bootlegs and solo stuff as well):
Lonely Sea
I just wasn't made for these times
Caroline No
Surfs up
Wind chimes
Can't wait too long
Be with me
Cease to exist
My solution
'Til I die
A day in the life of a tree
Make it big
Carry me home
Sweet mountain
In the still of the night
Just once in my life
You've lost that lovin' feelin'
Thought of you
My Diane
Still I dream of it
Good timin'
All alone
Love surrounds me
Oh Lord
It's not easy being me

I think Dennis has this area covered well...
Be With Me
Never Learn Not To Love
Carry Me Home
4th of July
All Alone
Thoughts of You
Time
Farewell My friend
Love Surrounds Me

But his darkest moment is undoubtedly...
Its Not Too Late

Brian's songs can be very dark too... but there is usually a more obvious degree of hope (and at times resolution) than with Dennis, who has scraps of hope in his darkest material...but they usually seem useless to him, like his opportunity for redemption has somehow passed.

A good compilation would be the Beach Boys "Dark"...something the average citizen might  think would be impossible to compile...But we all know a lot of their stuff is really, really sad.

Gotta be Problem Child.

"Hey Little Tomboy" is exTREMEly dark....in a very sick way.

Disturbing:

I Wanna Pick You Up
Roller Skating Child
Hey Little Tomboy
Wind Chimes (Smiley version.....SMiLE's is meant to be joyous)
Wonderful (Smiley version....it's disturbing that the strong subject matter is presented so mockingly from these high pitched weirdos)
Gettin' Hungry
Wild Honey (who knew the beach boys would make a song about 'eating out' a woman?)


Simply dark and depressing:

Till I Die
Busy Doin' Nothing

And only a few months after the Stones!

uhm ... a little piece of music called "Mrs O'Learys Cow".

In a weird way,I think "Steamboat" has a darkness to it.
Bri

I think "Holland" is a dark album, as well as "Surf's up".
"Leaving this town" has gotta be one of the darkest songs by the BBs

I'm surprised no one's said "In My Room" yet...

A Young Man is Gone.

Yeah...I feel like a knucklehead for not mentioning that one. That could be one of the darkest pieces of music ever recorded...truly scary. I'd also add Woody Woodpecker Symphony to any dark BB's list.

I think it all depends on what context the song is listened to in. Say, if Fire was played on a cartoon show -- say a Ren & Stimpy kind of thing then it would not be the darkest music ever. It might be a bit odd, but that would suit the show.

Also, SMiLE 67's 'Fire' is a lot darker than 2004's. Especially with the cackling fire burning along in the background.

I agree wholeheartedly. "Fall Breaks" is much darker than "Mrs O'Leary's" to me. It's downright scary. Truly haunting vocals.

Could you explain that a little more? Because I always feel that the new one is actually the scarier one. It has more ... uhm ... power, you know? To me, the old one sounds like you are watching a burning house from the other side of the street. With the new one, you are IN the house.
Could it be that the myths surrounding the original version make it seem darker?

I agree with the power statement, but that's partly down to the mixing on the album. The original "Fire" has so much mood to it, It sounds more demented and wild that the more powerful 2004 version. I don't let the myth surrounding the song get to me much; It's all just the paranoia of a crack-pot artist. Going to the recording studio to record Fire is no different than booking time to go record Surfer Girl in a way. There's one mono mix floating around of the song with the burning fire included -- and it's one dark piece. It mumbles along steadily like it's in a trance, the odd bass lines, the unusual organ voicings, the rising and falling strings, etc. IMO it was captured better in 67'.

Aside from Dennis's songs (which a majority are pretty dark), there's In My Room, The Elements: Fire, Tears In The Morning, A Day In The Life Of A Tree, Til' I Die, I'm So Lonely, etc.

tree, be with me, fall breaks, fire, pob, bambu

Tree for me...that simultaneously bad but appropriate vocal by Jack Rieley I'm not surprised Brian was move to tears when he heard it

Fall Breaks Back To Winter (endlessly fascinated by this tune.. The Baldwin sounds scary on this)

Till I Die ("these things I'll be until I die")

Day In The Life Of A Tree (In an alternate reality, if Brian wrote the lyrics, I'd say it was a suicide note set to music. I still prefer to see it that way, no matter what Jack Rieley says. I know he wrote them and all.)

Wonderful on Smiley Smile (listen to this in the dark, and its one of the scariest songs you'll ever hear)

Sail Plane Song (something creepy about this one)

Be With Me (that scream at the end alone)

the Chorus of Heroes and Villains single version (must be the Baldwin again)

Make it Big?
From what songs surround it, I'm gonna assume you meant Make it good.   ;)

Cease to Exist, the song Manson wrote some of or most of.

No one has mentioned Morning Christmas yet. There is no other Beach Boys song that makes me as melancholy as that one. Particularly the last half.

I don't think anybody had mentioned it here, so I will. Let The Wind Blow. Listen to it with the lights off for the full effect. Listen to those weird backing vocals! The big pounding piano(or is it organ?)! But most of all, that sharp intake of breath as the song is fading!  :o

Waves Of Love

I still have to ponder what my own entries will be. Most often it is best for me to let such a question just do its work in the back of my mind (sic) for a while.

But this is a great thread. The Beach Boys are, in the perception of the public at large, a band that was and is about fun, the sea, the sun, in general: good, upbeat times. Scanning this very thread teaches one otherwise, very convincingly so. The Boys also touched on the dark side of life, the recesses of the human mind, the bad times, the sadness, depression, what have you.

I dare say: they dared more than many loud, narcissistic, expressly and self-consciously 'disturbing', and quasi-experimental groups tried to express. Directionless anger and arty melancholia: not for me, it's all posing in the end.

The Boys achieved so much more, for those who really listen, and keep up with the lyrics.

"My Diane" is pretty grim.

Of the ones mentioned I like "Wind Chimes" from SMILEY SMILE in the sense that it is REALLY disturbing.  It might not have the darkest subject matter, but it has menacing and psychotic feel to it...and the cheerful little cadence that leads into the outro does nothing to leaven the mood, in fact it just makes it all creepier.  I'd actually vote for SMILEY SMILE as darkest album overall, odd considering its humorous intent (though I wouldn't argue with HOLLAND, though I would argue that part of the darkness is its murky production style).  But there are so many jarring WTF moments on SMILEY SMILE.  Is it the weirdest full-length album ever made by a major band at the height of their careers?  Is their a parallel elsewhere?  

There isn't, IMHO. Smiley Smile is only 'humorous' on the surface. I always thought there are so many hidden (childhood) fears in that album. 'Fall Breaks' says it all, without words. It's a bit like watching cartoons on TV whilst being depressed because of a heavy case of the flu.

'Thats Not Me' has always resonated quite deeply with me. It's such a lonely song, especially the guitar riff. I feel very alone when I listen to it, and I can't help but look to the rest of my life with a bit of fear, that I might go through the same thing.
Take Good Care Of Your Feet also depresses me, but for other reasons  :P

Don't Go Near the Water

the Heroes/Bicycle Rider theme is kinda spooky too

The 66 Fire has some unusual and disturbing string lines that were removed for the BWPS version, in part to make it less "scary" - at least I recall a comment along those lines from Brian at the time.

That album (and that is one great song example) endlessly fascinates me. You're right there's a lot of WTF moments on Smiley Smile, and that's what fascinates me. The only explanation given for how Smiley sounds the way it does is they smoked a lot of pot and/or hashish. I think even Brian explained it on that 1974 interview posted in another thread. It's still very weird how the album came out though, and you would think it would be funnier than how it came out. So many creepy or disturbing moments (like that interlude of Wonderful.. just what in the f*** are they doing??), you wonder why it came out that way.

I just wasn t made for these times (the real life of Brian) , 4th of july  (great lyrics mixing bombs and children..... and incredible music) and Carry me home (should have been on MIC).

Don't Worry Baby: the deeper underlying meaning: A guy scared shitless about life, needing someone close to him to tell him it'll be alright. I guess in the context of Brian's life, it's sad that he was thinking this way when he was that young.
When I Grow Up (To Be A Man): "Won't last forever...it's kinda sad." It's Brian realizing that the drive-ins, malt shops, makeout sessions in the back of the T-bird will all disappear once he grows up.
Where Is She?: "Where can she be if she's not here with me?"
Pacific Coast Highway: "My life, I'm better off alone, my life, I'm better on my own." always thought those were some of The Beach Boys saddest lyrics.
Summer's Gone: pure nostalgic melancholy

"We laugh, we cry
We live then die
And dream about our yesterday"

The full Swedish Frog section is pretty freaky sounding, especially when played with the lights out...

"Lonely Sea."

Swedish frogs are not freaky. :(

the smiley version of "wind chimes" is definitely the most disturbing, but "wonderful" somehow seems to come from somewhere even darker. the incongruity of the interlude is part of it, but the background voices (children?) in the verses, carl's whispering vocals, and even the faint out-of-tune melodica-like thing really creep me out.

there's also something indescribably "off" about "i went to sleep." i guess that's part of why i like bw's 1967-1969 songwriting so much - even the most seemingly straightforward stuff he wrote from that period is subtly dark.

It's Over Now

With Me Tonight on Smiley Smile is pretty dark too.. especially the part towards the end where the Baldwin organ gets louder and louder and drowns out the vocals.. There's definitely something strange going on on pretty much every song on Smiley.

you ARE.

The first one that came to mind for me (and yes, I see it was mentioned a page ago) was "Let the Wind Blow".  Such a haunting song, with it's desperate plea of 'don't take her out of my life'.  It makes me sad....in a good way.  Great song!

That is probably the darkest song in the whole BW catalog, Peter. Nice one! Don't forget "Still I Dream Of It" while we're at it.

Good call.

Can't forget "Oh Lord" too.. It's not a Beach Boys song, or anything near releasable, but it's pretty damn dark.

Also the version of "This Isn't Love" on the same boot has a dark, very sad sound..

Good call! Probably the darkest/saddest BB related recording I've ever heard.

It's Over Now there darkest song - really?? I'd say there's darker moments than this over-produced, over-rated schmaltz.

Count me in. 'Morning Christmas' somehow sounds hungover-ish to me, but in the sense that one has just had two or three drinks to loosen up a bit... the world has slowed down... one's perception isn't quite right, but it doesn't feel all too bad... but some dark feeling of foreboding is definitely there, as if one perceives the future as not bright at all...

(my comment has nothing to do with Dennis' life, or habits, it's precisely what I feel with this song)

That song made me cry....

Everything on side two of Surf's Up!----dark as in nocturnal, deep and/or dense but not depressing.

As for consistently nocturnal-sounding albums, Smiley Smile comes the closest.

While on the subject, it feels to me as if Surfin' U.S.A. begins in broad daylight and ends in darkness. No idea why...

I think Moonshine is about as accurate a rendition of heartache as you could hope for. Dennis really nails it.