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Title: Official "Our Sweet Love" Appreciation Thread
Post by: DennisWilsonIsMyHero on August 02, 2009, 08:55:25 PM
Discuss :)

This song makes me happy. Any information or history on it is greatly appreciated.


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Post by: MBE on August 02, 2009, 10:57:59 PM
Well it's a great song that is overlooked even by fans of the album. Brian and Carl are in steller vocal form and I think it's the first time you can hear Carl's voice really getting lower and more adult.


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Post by: Dove Nested Towers on August 03, 2009, 12:32:08 AM
I've always loved it too, and in case you don't know, I hesitate to mention it but there is an instrumental track with some backing vocals on some (ahem) "unofficial" releases which features a lovely bit at the end which was cut (or buried completely in the mix) from the released version, with the lyric "love you baby, and I can tell you that-a our sweet love is, just like a-honey, our sweet looove". I love to sing that part every time when I listen to the song now, it's really "sweet". :)




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Post by: Peadar 'Big Dinner' O'Driscoll on August 03, 2009, 08:44:48 AM
Incredible song.love it. production is stunning

never seems to get much of a mention from anyone


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Post by: Shady on August 03, 2009, 08:57:38 AM
One of my favourite from Sunflower, also one of the great love songs of all time IMO.

Carl's vocal and the production  :grouphug.

I'm glad it was included on summer love songs, great choice there.


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Post by: phirnis on August 03, 2009, 09:11:39 AM
Everything's perfect about this song, in fact I might even prefer it over "Forever". Love that little tambourine hit at the end, by the way.

Do we know who mainly handled production duties on this one? Carl?


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Post by: punkinhead on August 03, 2009, 09:50:11 AM
everyone always gives this crap for being a 're-write of God Only Knows'


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Post by: TdHabib on August 03, 2009, 10:12:28 AM
"Our Sweet Love" is really good. Beautiful arrangement, tasteful lyrics, and a most gorgeous lead by Carl.


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Post by: phirnis on August 03, 2009, 10:17:43 AM
everyone always gives this crap for being a 're-write of God Only Knows'

There are quite a few obvious similarities between the two, wouldn't you agree? (Mind you, for me that doesn't detract from OSL's overall greatness.) It is, however, far more relaxed than "God Only Knows" and that's part of what makes it so special. "Our Sweet Love" would have been out of place on Pet Sounds as it definitely lacks that album's deep melancholy.


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Post by: hypehat on August 03, 2009, 10:57:19 AM
Such a happy song. That 'doo-doo' harmony is just priceless. I'm not sure about the rewrite of God Only Knows bit, the only thing they really have in common is tempo. Or did Brian actually rejig GOK for it?


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Post by: LostArt on August 03, 2009, 11:21:04 AM
Tempo is the same, but the chords and the melody are not even close.


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Post by: Big Bri on August 03, 2009, 11:42:25 AM
It's a timeless Love song that always brings back so many fond memories. And Carl is simply Stellar in his delivery of "Our Sweet Love". But it also sets the stage for one of THE most Brilliant songs on "Sunflower".....the immortal masterpiece "At My Window".

Bri


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Post by: PongHit on August 03, 2009, 11:43:06 AM
Maybe the strings, & the towering round section...?  Also lyrics: "I may not always love you" & "Our sweet love won't last forever" ??


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Post by: DennisWilsonIsMyHero on August 03, 2009, 11:56:54 AM
Maybe the strings, & the towering round section...?  Also lyrics: "I may not always love you" & "Our sweet love won't last forever" ??

I believe the correct lyric is "Could last forever."

Regardless, I don't hear the GOK connection. I think this song stands amazingly well on its own.


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Post by: buddhahat on August 03, 2009, 12:05:39 PM
everyone always gives this crap for being a 're-write of God Only Knows'

There are quite a few obvious similarities between the two, wouldn't you agree? (Mind you, for me that doesn't detract from OSL's overall greatness.) It is, however, far more relaxed than "God Only Knows" and that's part of what makes it so special. "Our Sweet Love" would have been out of place on Pet Sounds as it definitely lacks that album's deep melancholy.

I think every now and then in BW's song writing career a song surfaces that is clearly from the same guy that wrote God Only Knows and Our Sweet Love is definitely one of those songs. In terms of its chord progression it definitely could belong on Pet Sounds imo. Stevie from MIU sessions (?) is another that is clearly related to GOK, imho of course!


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Post by: hypehat on August 03, 2009, 12:53:18 PM
 ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQea4WsON64
 ;D


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Post by: Dove Nested Towers on August 03, 2009, 01:01:10 PM
It's a timeless Love song that always brings back so many fond memories. And Carl is simply Stellar in his delivery of "Our Sweet Love". But it also sets the stage for one of THE most Brilliant songs on "Sunflower".....the immortal masterpiece "At My Window".

Bri

Do I detect sarcasm there? (assume so). One of the early BB bios says of that
timeless classic "Jardine talks to the birds in a bizarre patois no doubt equally offensive to
both man and beast." :lol

Somewhat cloying but at times oddly compelling, and I do like the tag.


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Post by: Dove Nested Towers on August 03, 2009, 01:05:06 PM
;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQea4WsON64
 ;D

Very cute and uplifting! :)

Thanks for sharing.


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Post by: phirnis on August 03, 2009, 01:21:48 PM
It's a timeless Love song that always brings back so many fond memories. And Carl is simply Stellar in his delivery of "Our Sweet Love". But it also sets the stage for one of THE most Brilliant songs on "Sunflower".....the immortal masterpiece "At My Window".

Bri

Do I detect sarcasm there? (assume so). One of the early BB bios says of that
timeless classic "Jardine talks to the birds in a bizarre patois no doubt equally offensive to
both man and beast." :lol

Definitely very cloying but at times oddly compelling, and I do like the tag.

It's time for an official "At My Window" appreciation thread!

Really, what's not to like about this song? Gotta love the beautiful accordion, let alone the beautiful intro and georgeous tag, of course. Some people might find Brian's attempt at speaking French downright embarrassing. To my ears it sounds quite charming, however, and it's nice to have what almost is a rare lead vocal moment here, even though it's spoken word only.


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Post by: Ian on August 03, 2009, 01:21:56 PM
It should be noted that the bizarre patois parts of the song are spoken by Brian Wilson not Jardine


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Post by: Aegir on August 03, 2009, 02:04:10 PM
Maybe Al wrote them?

And here's a cover band seamlessly going from God Only Knows to Our Sweet Love: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuK-s0KdVEs


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Post by: LittleSurferGirl on August 03, 2009, 02:15:25 PM
Love that tune, beautiful. So much good stuff on Sunflower


Title: Re: Official \
Post by: Awesoman on August 03, 2009, 02:26:56 PM
It's a nice, solid tune.  Maybe a tad on the sugary side but still a great lead vocal by Carl and a great melody. 


Title: Re: Official \
Post by: Shady on August 03, 2009, 02:55:43 PM
It's a timeless Love song that always brings back so many fond memories. And Carl is simply Stellar in his delivery of "Our Sweet Love". But it also sets the stage for one of THE most Brilliant songs on "Sunflower".....the immortal masterpiece "At My Window".

Bri

You're one of the few to hold 'At my window' in such high regard. Good man  ;D


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Post by: Mr. Cohen on August 03, 2009, 03:06:52 PM
Yeah, I love what Brian was doing around Sunflower, including "Our Sweet Love" and "At My Window".  Sunflower would be perfect for me if they took out Bruce's songs (they're not bad but they're unnecessary IMO, not really a BBs vibe) and replaced them with "Good Time" and "When Girls Get Together", another oft-maligned track I love. Take off Dennis's "Got To Know the Woman" and replace it with "Lady". Maybe throw in "Take A Load Off Your Feet". Imagine how goofy a Brian and Al collaboration album would've been. They would had to have packaged the album with Ritz crackers to help listeners deal with all of the cheese.


Title: Re: Official \
Post by: Outie 315 on August 03, 2009, 03:22:54 PM

  Sunflower = The Sonic LP.

  Desper = GOD!!!!!



Title: Re: Official \
Post by: sockittome on August 03, 2009, 05:30:00 PM
To me, OSL is one of those feel-good take-you-away kinda songs that doesn't try to spell out anything profound in the lyrics, much like "Time to Get Alone" or "All I Wanna Do".  You can completely ignore the lyrics if you want, and just kick back and enjoy the multi layered sounds.  Beautiful song, and I don't think technical comparisons to GOK is a bad thing at all.


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Post by: Dove Nested Towers on August 03, 2009, 07:48:27 PM
It should be noted that the bizarre patois parts of the song are spoken by Brian Wilson not Jardine

Sorry, my mistake. And I do greatly admire the production on the song, just find it a little
syrupy (or am I jaded? Possibly, I hope not.) :'(


Title: Re: Official \
Post by: Big Bri on August 04, 2009, 04:32:58 AM
Mutedtrumpeterswan,

  I'm being very serious when I say that "At My Window" is one of the best songs on "Sunflower"!!
What more validation for the song do you need then from Brian Wilson himself who rates that little Masterpiece as one of HIS favorite BB songs!! 
  The Harmonies are impeccable, the child-like innocence draws you right back to your very own childhood(at least it does for me since I started listening to Sunflower when I was 10 years old in 1973).
  Simply appreciate it for the Beauty that lies within it.........................

Big Bri


Title: Re: Official \
Post by: slothrop on August 04, 2009, 12:03:36 PM
"At My Window" totally blew my mind when I first really sat down and listened to it. It's bizarre and childish but that's what makes it amazing. At the exact halfway point is where the song starts getting really trippy...the "puff" part, "he came to my window" vocals, the discordant piano behind Al's last verse, and then the incredible tag. A really psychedelic song when you pay attention, much like the rest of the album.

"Our Sweet Love" is also a wonderful song. I see the comparison to GOK even though the two have obvious differences. They just move similarly somehow, although "Our Sweet Love" is something I can listen to any day because it's just so beautiful and uplifting. GOK is a bit of a downer at times. My favorite part is the guitar (or is it a horn and guitar playing the same line? I can't tell) that begins at 1:44, when Carl sings "I feel it down inside my soul". Such a beautiful little flourish that just helps push the song higher.


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Post by: Dove Nested Towers on August 04, 2009, 12:50:46 PM
Mutedtrumpeterswan,

  I'm being very serious when I say that "At My Window" is one of the best songs on "Sunflower"!!
What more validation for the song do you need then from Brian Wilson himself who rates that little Masterpiece as one of HIS favorite BB songs!! 
  The Harmonies are impeccable, the child-like innocence draws you right back to your very own childhood(at least it does for me since I started listening to Sunflower when I was 10 years old in 1973).
  Simply appreciate it for the Beauty that lies within it.........................

Big Bri

You know what, Big Bri? After pondering your post, I just had an epiphany that brings me around full circle again re: At My Window. I really liked it when I first started listening to Sunflower 25 years ago, and gradually lost enthusiasm for it after countless listenings through the years, not sure exactly why. It IS an incredible production, a very childlike song, beautiful and profound in its simplicity. I had always heard the song associated with Al, and didn't realize that Brian was saying the (nonsense or French?) words. I didn't used to think a lot about which band member was singing each part until fairly recently.

The "poof" voice still strikes me as cutesy and self-conscious, and the rise in volume and treble is a bit harsh and jarring on the last "he came to my window" before the tag, but other than those minor quibbles I am thinking about it with a fresh perspective and it does have a timeless quality of youthful wonderment and openness to nature.

I know this sounds extremely wishy-washy, but it is sincere. Thanks for your
perspective. :)


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Post by: Andrew G. Doe on August 04, 2009, 01:07:33 PM
idn't realize that Brian was saying the (nonsense or French?) words.

French - very poor French, but French nonetheless (not Portuguese as Steve Desper states in his book): a rough translation would be "a sparrow has arrived and is sitting on my windowsill"


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Post by: Aegir on August 05, 2009, 08:31:07 AM
Wait, besides Brian's French part, isn't Bruce the lead singer?


Title: Re: Official \
Post by: lance on August 05, 2009, 09:10:07 AM
yeah, but it was written by al and bri.


Title: Re: Official \
Post by: Aegir on August 05, 2009, 09:57:07 AM
I know.


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Post by: Andrew G. Doe on August 05, 2009, 11:40:06 AM
yeah, but it was written by al and bri.

Strictly speaking , adapted by Alan  from "Raspberries, Strawberries" by Will Holt, a Kingston trio classic.


Title: Re: Official \
Post by: Sound of Free on August 05, 2009, 07:11:25 PM
Our Sweet Love is a terrific song, but when the box set came out in 1993, I was surprised to see that as thew fourth cut from Sunflower. I figured This Whole World, Add Some Music and Forever would be on there, but I was surprised OSL made the cut over Slip on Through. Not only do I think Slip on Through is a better song on its own merits, but it's an uptempo (or at least midtempo) Dennis song with one of Denny's best vocals. Our Sweet Love is a  great Brian melody with a fabulous Carl vocal, but those are much more plentiful.

It's just another case of Dennis being slighted.

Our Sweet Love is still a great song, though. The only ones from Sunflower that don't work for me are Tears in the Morning and At My Window.


Title: Re: Official \
Post by: lance on August 05, 2009, 09:02:44 PM
I cant stand Tears i the Morning, everything else on the record I like....even Got To Know the Woman.


Title: Re: Official \
Post by: Dove Nested Towers on August 05, 2009, 09:29:30 PM
I cant stand Tears i the Morning, everything else on the record I like....even Got To Know the Woman.

A previous poster said that both of Bruce's songs should have been replaced by others
for the album. I disagree about Dierdre, but agree with him (and you) about TITM. It IS a
masterfully written and produced song, with Bruce's unique sensibility in abundance (for better or worse, USUALLY better IMO), but is just too mawkish and maudlin for my taste.


Title: Re: Official \
Post by: hypehat on August 06, 2009, 02:27:07 AM
I cant stand Tears i the Morning, everything else on the record I like....even Got To Know the Woman.

A previous poster said that both of Bruce's songs should have been replaced by others
for the album. I disagree about Dierdre, but agree with him (and you) about TITM. It IS a
masterfully written and produced song, with Bruce's unique sensibility in abundance (for better or worse, USUALLY better IMO), but is just too mawkish and maudlin for my taste.

It's that bit at the end that gets me..... 'tastefully' echoed piano, playing those annoying trills he loves so much, complete with sax, predicting the 80's ten years in advance. I'd possibly swap it out for 'Games'.

Also throwing my hat into the ring for the 'At my Window' love-in. Some of the best harmonies on Sunflower, and that's saying something


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Post by: lance on August 06, 2009, 04:14:57 AM
I would say the track is masterfully produced, but I don't know about written...IT's pretty much one line in two keys, repeated ad infinitum.